Another helpful video Jon... can I just add, air pressure isn't the be all and end all saviour of rims. The dent is more pronounced with too low pressure, the dent will be local and very obvious immediately... especially if you approach the curb from an angle... it will dent the rim more on the first side that encounters the curb. However, if you have 'enough/more' tyre pressure and you hit the curb hard enough and are late with unweighting the wheel... the dent can not be obvious, but can out of round the rim over a greater area and not be noticeable to the eye. Personally, I use a very similar method to you, however, I don't wait for the bump of the tyre and curb meeting, I like to crouch a little more than normal and unweight the wheel just before the bump, so as the tyre strikes the gutter, my weight is just coming off the foot plates and the wheel 'follows my lifting feet'. As you say with your method, timing is everything... pop too early and the damage will likely be worse than expected if the wheel is landing when it was supposed to be taking off.. Another method I use, especially on higher curbs is to run at the curb head on, slow down to an almost stop as you get to the curb lean forward and unweight the wheel so rather than the tyre slamming into the curb, it literally stops then drives up it. The experts (who generally make us mere mortals sick) just approach the curb at warp factor 9 and jump, lifting the wheel from about 3' before the curb... DoH!! haha
Another good vlog Jon, very informative. Actually showing the mechanics behind something and how’s it’s done is so much better than just talking about it, well done. Will practice this in due course, after checking tyre pressures of course! Also loved the colour coordination with your jacket and the building’s windows, very polished performance!😁👌🏻
Shortly after I began working for a British company, located in the USA until I recently retired, I've said many times that I was lied to in school. I do not speak "English", I speak a dialect of "American". Kerb vs Curb, etc 🤣
Being new to this hobby/mode of transport, I have been searching out videos on YT and tbh, I’m fed up of watching idiots talking bollocks. You are a refreshing change and I propose you as the eucs ambassador to the world! 👍😁
Well explained ! Often I just practice and practice but never understand the way it works , this video helps me to cut out the bad habits of riding , great 👍
Thank you for the videos! I have had my 14 inch inmotion v5f for only 4 months and I am loving it - still working on getting over sidewalk cracks with a 2 and 1/2 inch grade difference but your demonstration has made me feel ready for my next encounter so I can get over one of those things with next time without a panic.
I listened to your podcast this morning and the jingles were outstanding as always. Particularly liked the line about your 'scones' I realised of course that Ian refuses to believe that anyone likes your jingles (and that I am not a real person...fair call really) I think in reality he is quite jealous of your vocal talents and a little in awe of you. Lastly please keep uploading the podcasts to RU-vid or I will have to comment randomly on your other videos (as seen above) Anyway, that's enough from me, have a fabulous and happy day Jingle Jon 🎶 😊🎉
This video is quite informative and well done 👏. I do find it easier to use jump pads. As you approach a kerb you sort of crouch to put pressure on the tire and then jump using the rebound force of it. If done properly you have much smaller chance to bend the rim. Makes jumping kerbs easy and power pads do give more control of the wheel. This is in my experience, what is your thought on it?
First i have to say thanks - i love your videos - really great ! A little question - when you ride your EUC and would like to make speed - you lean forward...do you lean with both feet synchron or is one foot to stabilise...i mean do you press both feet to power pads,or only one ? Thanks for an answer !
Interesting. I learned kerb hopping from Ian's videos on it back on the Ninebot. That technique was to load up the tyre IN ADVANCE of the kerb and squeeze with your legs, then hop manually rather than using the kerb to launch you, landing on top. That seems safer because you never hit the lower surface area kerb face (or corner) which has more potential to hit the rim. What are your thoughts on that? As I only ride an 18" wheel at the moment, I suspect either way would work in practice but I'm used to giving it that "squeeze and release" with the tyre giving me a little launch.
What does Ian know? Yes, I agree, hopping up before making contact might seem safer but with big heavy wheels there is a risk of coming off the footplates and being out of control of the wheel, which feels very risky. If you have enough air in the tyres, time it right, you lift your weight off the wheel as it makes contact and the risk to the wheel is very limited. Do it with an under inflated tyre and you will wreck it. I know. That's how I wrecked a Sherman! You get another mention on the Podcast Tim. Out now on the usual places!
@@wheellifejon Ah yes, the weight thing is very valid, and you did mention it in the video (my memory is going). I watched that video when you wrecked the Sherman, and filled your car with repair foam dust. Very funny (probably less so for you). Another mention on the podcast? All part of my plan to gradually edge you out and take over :)
Has Ian go any spare axles, or is this secretly sponsored by Mario?? 😆 Just kidding Jon, great how-to vid. HNY (I did think your tyre looked a little bit on the soft side, esp at 04:39 & 5:28 -careful not to pinch that tube, you, lol!
Very helpful. I can get up a curb no problem at low speed, but the thing we see on RU-vid, is these guys jumping up over them. I assume it's cuz they have power pads and jump pads, cuz I cannot get my wheel to jump at all. I don't have any extra pad accessories. Maybe a revisit to curb hopping with jump pads is in order, cuz it seems everyone on the forums and groups is using them? Unless you've already done it, lol idk I've only been watching these types of videos for two months now, so you might have already covered it several times. Maybe call it a part 2 and link it to this video if you haven't. I've seen Ian do it without jump/power pads but he's been riding for a very long time now, and is kind of on a different level then us old fattys that are watching these kind of videos. Lol
I did a frame by frame advance on the jumps. I have to say that it really does look like risky business to ride a smaller EUC up a curb because the tire deflection is substantial to the point where the rider is coming perilously close to doing wheel damage.
Yes, you are right. As I said, don't try this without a well inflated tyre. If you get the timing right you lift the weight off the wheel at that point of impact to reduce the risk. Perhaps I should have emphasised that point a bit more.
Thanks for making this video. Just started on my EUC journey about 3 weeks ago (with a KS16X) and hopping up a kerb was something I didn't dare try. Am going to give it a go later today. Thanks for the tips!
So, who to believe, Ian or Jonathan?😉 Just wondering, which would be an easier way to learn the jump, with the lighter but smaller wheel v5f or the heavier v10f with a bigger wheel?
I could get to the idea of a function which takes the height of the kerb as a parameter, and gives you the minimum wheel diameter under which this operation is possible. The rest of it is measurement.
I have been afraid of curbs/kerbs ever since i fell on my first try with the V5F, the wheel might be too small for it to be easy to pull off, don't wanna damage the rim either. I didn't have alot of speed back then either so it might've just stalled on me, i guess i'll have to go out and find some place to train on
The kicker is that one doesn't need to jump. Lifting the heels(!) and keeping the knees flexible is enough. This also makes the timing a little less critical.
Depends on the height of the kerb. In the Netherlands the kerbs are very height. So jumping is always needed, so you to not be surprised by that one kerb. The kerbs in this Video are very low.
@@BunnyslippersEUC As long as you don't pull the wheel up from the ground, which was not my understand of the technique shown in the vid, jumping won't change much in the addressable height. On my wheel, the height limitation to clear kerbs without jumping comes from the shell touching the kerb. I have been riding in Holland a few times and my memory is that I could clear many kerbs by just driving them up with a 16" wheel.
Sorry, brother, but I think your technique is going to end up with a lot of bent rims. Even with his unloading the wheel, the V12 is on the verge of bent rim or a pinch flat. It's far safer to use jump pads and just hop onto the curb without contacting it at all. Maybe this is harder with Monster Pro or a beast wheel, but there's no reason the smaller wheels can't do it.
@@lashley370z over the years I have passed maybe a thousand 4" curbs like this (without jumping) and have yet to see a bent rim or pinch flat. I crashed the wheel a bunch of times in the training process (without substantial damage). I don't have a V12 though, so it could be that its rim is not durable enough for this technique.
I have experimented but just keep it at 0 (level). Sometimes it starts up and feels like it is slightly pointing forwards so I hold the motor cut off button and it levels itself nicely.
Lol I love his accent reminds me of BBC Animal Documentary Videos 😂 , I thought that his going to say the scientific name of a specific animal, shoot his riding an EUC the "Mosfetus Cutoffticus" also known as the V12
Il V11 è ammortizzato, per evitare l'urto del pneumatico sul gradino, lo faccio saltare io un secondo prima, con una forte pressione delle gambe verso il basso🇮🇹🇬🇧My V11 is cushioned, to avoid the impact of the tire on the step, I make it jump a second before, with strong pressure from my legs downwards
I'm sometimes jumping even 2m before the curb using clarkpads on my s18, but I guess it's lighter and I 'm going faster. I'm sure the technique shown on this video would be dangerous if you were going at speed or at an angle to the curb.
Have been riding a while and go down kerbs quite often, haven't really done high kerbs on the way up, tend to look for the 2" high bit. I will have to try this on my 16X, but it should be even easier on my S18. Same technique for the S18, what do you think?
Yes, should be exactly the same. With both wheels, try compressing down just before you get to the kerb and lifting up so that your weight is light at the point of contact, then just jump up as the wheel rises under your feet. Let me know how you get on.
@@wheellifejon might give it a try tomorrow. Wish speed bumps are standard here, and by that I mean they are made the same size and shape, but it differs lol. I'll let you know
Curb or kerb? There are some important things you didn't talk about. - adjust your speed (slow down) while approaching a kerb. Give yourself time to estimate the situation. - approach a kerb straight on. Never at an extreme angle. - Some kerbs are higher. So if you ride different wheels. And you forgot you are riding a 16inch at the moment. You might need to jump a bit.
Mind you.... just watched a clip of you (I think it was you) falling off on a little wooden bridge... so I am taking your advice with some caution! Only kidding!
Does Inmotion manufacture poor quality products ? I bought a V8F 4 months ago. I rode it normally and even didn't jump kerbs. Then one day after pulling it down a kerb for a while, it shook strongly and the wheel was locked. This happened again next time and it said PLEASE REPAIR. I checked with the app and it displayed "mechanical failure". Why is it so easily malfunctioned ?
Sorry to hear that. It has not been my experience at all. I have ridden many wheels and InMotion have been as good and reliable as any other for me. I hope you can get it fixed.
I have broken two axles on the V8 (right side of the axle where the cables pass to the motor) and stopped going down kerbs on a regular basis for this reason (I am still going up kerbs but don't jump up). Broken axles (or pedals) are by no means unique to InMotion wheels though. Sad but true.
Yeah. It should be the same. Make sure you have pleanty of pressure in your tires and lift up exactly as you make contact with the kerb edge. Dont just plough into it! The other technique for smaller wheels is to grip the wheel firmly between your feet, push down and compress the tire with your weight before you get to the kerb edge then bounce up holding the wheel between your feet.
I prefer use power pads and jump the wheel as much I can to overcome the obstacle, if I can’t at least the worst was behind and my body “weight still in the air” so the possibility to damage ring is almost zero. I try as much I can not facing n crash my wheel against as showed in this video, one time ya ended loosing the time n damaged your ring!
My dad was from Scotland. Are you near there? I ask because I have seen photos with the same houses and country side. So I was just wondering. THE WEDDING: Well I told you I probably would say the wrong thing. I guess I did. My buddy Wayne Cash. Asked me to say a few words at a toast. We grew up together. So I couldn't think of anything so I just did this. "What to say...what-to-say...Well. um. I have learned this being married. Marriage certainly does interfere with romance that's for sure you betcha... Every time I used to start up a romance? My wife here, God lover her. She would always interfere. Hope that helps you buddy as you walk this path. Might save your life knowing that. And that was that.
Lol. I hear that. I have always wanted to visit my dad's birthplace. We never were close. One reason was I never could understand him once he got going. My daughter who was in Japan and still there today once, after trying to figure out what he was saying, and being the typical Japanese girl smiled at my dad and then whispered to me in Japanese. "Does grandfather speak Japanese?" I told Kumiko, my daughter that if he did? I would be able to understand him. This shocked Kimono. Maybe one day. But I doubt it. I am only going to be here a few more years. Only my wife knows. No joke this time brother. I am not going to see 2027. Now ya know why I am trying to make as many people laugh as possible. I want everyone to have a funny story that they can look back on a smile. So! Be brave. Stay wild. Be good to yourself. And each other. Nuff Said.😁
