You can also use hydrogen as your sterile atmosphere, which would let you place the fridges above the cookware. That could offer a solution to stretching the fridge section and allowing for more cooking appliances.
This is the second game that I originally bounced off and then got into after watching you play. First with dark souls and now ONI. Thanks for the help in understanding and enjoying these deep, challenging games.
You can simplify this build a lot, to build it in the early game. I always build a similar sized room, with a much narrow entrance (to keep the cold in), and as little mass as possible. Metal tiles and temp shift plates take a lot of energy to cool down. You just need a temp sensor above the fridges set to -25. You want to cool the air down, nothing more. At first the temp regulator will work hard to cool the room down, but after a few cycles it will barely run. So long as there is little mass and a small opening. You can even use oxygen as a coolant.
love this build!! i just looked at every freezer/ kitchen build on YT and their all way to over engineered and complicated. i added a one tile freezer for all the cooked food
Call me a cheater but I use a freezer mod. I do like your setup. I think obsidian is the better material for manually cooled fridges as the transfer of heat happens much faster.
As someone who doesn't like infinite storage techniques, I really appreciate a guide using refrigerators for storage instead of just dumping it all in a single tile on the ground.
This is infinite storage build. Refrigirators just allow dupes to get the food, but once frigdes are full, the tile will start to act as infinite storage. So sorry, again an infinite storage build. (I have nothing against them btw)
@@TheGalifrey agreed. nothing cheesy about the infinite storage method, its quite a challenging pia to pull off. way more crap to work out than this solution. i mean, its no more "cheesy" than just dropping every material you own onto a single tile :)
I would rather do a 3x4 inf storage, with chlorine for this. The only issues are getting a liquid for the tile (-18 C) and some of the construction work due to the chlorine vent is in the same place as the chute in the same spot. First can be solved with some Oil or/and Petroleum which should be easy to get. Second can be handled with a liquid lock of the liquid you use for the one tile. After those things just have -20 C Hydrogen or something else going through the metal tile and clorine. While the cooling loop for the base has one insulated tile infront of the one tile of liquid (to maintain the base temp). This also generally allows for all the food prep stuff under one autosweeper.
I would suggest Naphta, since hydrogen will take quite a while to cool. And Naphta is much easier to get/manage with a glossy drecko farm. Just FYI there are designs out there for a farm that requires insanely low amounts of dupe intervention, while also generating quite a bit of food and insane amounts of plastic.
I build a box around Anti Entropy Thermo-Nullifier filled with hydrogen gas with vacuum liquid lock, and build a simple kitchen inside it. Dupes will put on atmo suit before entering the freezing kitchen.
Only my chefs are allowed to enter the freezing kitchen. I placed a refrigerator outside the kitchen, set the capacity to 2kg and only put the final stage food for dupes to grab. The refrigerator is reachable by auto-sweeper inside the kitchen.
Most build examples won't use thermium or other advanced materials because you're not going to have them when you need to build reliable colony structures like a deep freezer in early game.
he answers this at the very end in the rambly last minute or two. basically too overly complicated for no real benefit, other than storing 100mil calories. an why would you ever need to? i agree with that assessment
It looks like your outer "raw ingredients" fridges are a bottleneck for storage? Like, they're almost full but the finished food fridges are pretty empty. Does it hurt anything to make the outer 4 containers hold unfinished food?
so i built this like 100 cycles ago an it works perfectly on the left half the fridges, but the right half refuses to freeze. logically that should be the easiest as the loop comes in that direction. i had a pipe from a cooling loop in there an figured that was the issue, but over 50 cycles after rerouting it the right side still isnt freezing. maybe the grill?? but its on insulated tiles an cooled by the loop. im so fuckin confused. anyone experience this an know why its happening? all steel an gold for heat transfer btw edit: never mind. it apparently, for some reason unknown to me, took 150 cycles to finally freeze everything. left side has been frozen for at least 100 cycles. go figure
yup. this imo is way better than any of the infinite storage solutions ive tried. they way too complicated an finicky. So what its not infinite? Ive had 20mil calories in one before. wtf will i ever do w 20mil? thanks for the work
