How to Lane with Earth Shaker on Support - Tips, Tricks and Tactics | Dota 2 Pro Guides

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@Archimedes_1945 Год назад

Quite an awesome piece of great advice, I must say. Plain and simple, easy to watch and catch the main moments. Would be great if you put in the ganking aspect (where and why to gank or not to gank), time codes would be really helpful, so as the visual effects (like the first tip or feature, then second and so on). Great job man)

@5updota Год назад

Thank you. And yes I would like to do that but I don't have sooo much time right now. With Dota, doing RU-vid, doing Twitch, working in reallife as well 8 hours a day :D I will try to get examples for the future videos so people can understand it easier 👍

@praily9163 Год назад

Love the laning guides! Maybe could see a mid game decision making guide? Having a lot of won lanes, but struggling with what to do after. Cheers!

@5updota Год назад

Thank you sir! Nice to hear that and maybe in the future👍

@pedarraeesjohari7576 Месяц назад

This soo much help me ty brother

@supergockel5309 5 месяцев назад

Nice Tipps, kannst du mal so ein Video zum morphling machen?

@EliTheGleason Год назад

I just started this hero and he's so fun, just constant bonking

@5updota Год назад

I can agree on that :)

@dantejavelosa2439 7 месяцев назад

You deserve more followers brother. Thanks for the advice!

@MrKlotzsch Год назад

4:18 i love ur dirty laugh :D

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@jayjacobl4667 Год назад

What are your thoughts about trying to sneak somewhere to enemy SAFELANE and fissure blocking the wave there? then offlane creeps end up under safelane tower, and then your offlaner gets double-waved immediately starting 2nd wave. make sure neutral camps are blocked from pulling, and then just do what you need to do to make sure equilibrium stays on your side? this gives the enemy lane level 2 faster than you, but i feel like its worth it to guarantee lane pushes in? thoughts? also i see you went aftershock level 2 - against double range opponent lane, what are your thoughts about just getting enchant? lets you hunt couriers lvl2, and its unlikely you're gonna get the aftershock damage on fissure against double ranged anyways? level 3 onward, if im against an enemy lane with low kill threat, ill oftentimes just sit in the creepwave, use enchant + aftershock stun to make it extremely difficult for the enemy carry to last hit anything. however, this saps xp from my offlaner, and it keeps me from doing other stuff (stacking triangle for stack-clearer, rotating mid and helping secure runes, etc.). do you think this is worth it? I feel like i have some general ideas on how to approach the lane as shaker 4 depending on how i expect the lane to go. however, post laning phase and before i get a blink, i feel extremely useless on shaker. its really hard to get an echo off unless you have some setup or tumblers toy. i can't farm fast unless a core leaves me a lane to sit at, which often doesn't happen. feels like the only way i can get a reasonable blink timing is if we take and win a few teamfights, but if we lose the fights, or the game is static, i often find myself sitting around doing nothing for 10 minutes. any ideas how i should best maximize my time post laning phase to when i have a blink? right now, ill help ward a bit, stack triangle a bunch if one of my allies can clear fast and we can protect it, and then sit behind a core to counter initiate, but that's about it.

@5updota Год назад

The problem with blocking the enemy wave is that, if the enemys are smart they will just push waves into you and pressure you under the tower. After that they gonna have the lane static again in front of their tower. You could do that but you need to pull the second wave and put it in front of your tower instead of letting it run into your creeps it will ruin your lane trust me i tryed it so many times :D The idea with passiv on level 2 is that i dont play aggro anyway and I wanna kill the TB illus with the magic dmg if they go on me or my DP. I will kill a courier anyway if i find one because they are walking and not flying, you only need your Enchant totem to kill flying couriers because they are faster then you at some point. Whenever i play shaker i usally sit at my offlane instead of going to mid or gank its mostly not worth you can try like one Gank in the MID if it works out great if it doesnt work out shit happens but do not go to your safelane its mega gameruin for yourself and your offlaner. The only thing i always do is securing the min 6, 8, 10 rune because its game winning for your game because you will get the midlane when your midlaner gets a haste or some other rune and he wants to rotate or jungle. And big tip. Dont go for blink rush its 90% of the time not really worth. Play around your shard you can easily fight with it and with that you also farm faster + you dont feel ussles because you can just follow your cores and Fissure + Enchant totem for dmg.

@jayjacobl4667 Год назад

@@5updota Thanks! It's always cool to get the thought process of a higher level player. Sometimes I feel like I have good ideas, but Dota is so complicated it is hard to know if I actually am thinking about stuff correctly, or if I'm missing some important factor. what is your decision making process in terms of things you could do during laning phase in order of importance? For example lets say its 5min, your offlaner is doing well, wave is slightly pushing in. I could choose to go triangle and stack both camps there, be slightly late to help secure 6 min rune for my mid, gank mid, and then go invade jungle and get the bounty rune/put some wards down. I could also skip stacking triangle to make 100% sure my mid secures the rune. Lets say my lane is strong, and instead of leaving lane, me + offlaner can make sure enemy carry cannot walk up to the lane at all, but if I leave lane to help do other stuff, that is no longer the case, or enemy support will pull the wave back so its easier for the enemy to last hit again... how should i be prioritizing all these options? I've been thinking about just going shard instead of blink for a while, but been afraid to try, so I'll give that a try and see how it feels.

@5updota Год назад

@@jayjacobl4667 I would only stack your triangle if u got heroes that can farm it easily aswell. The better play if u have a bigcamp, pull it at second 5:30 or even on min 5 and then go for the min 6 rune/around middle so u can prepare for it already. Whenever you pull the bigcamp and set the lane back your offlane usally doesnt die randomly because he just sits under his tower and when they go on him your mid or yourself can just tp to bot. And ye try the shard it feels 1000 times better

@MartinDang-qj5bg Год назад

LANEEEEEEEEEEEEING STAGEE SAFED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLAYING EARTH SHAKER ONLY NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@5updota Год назад

👍👍

@cleangoblin2021 8 месяцев назад

Thanks. This is really good against pos5s who knows my tricks around the camps

@leedanny8313 Год назад

hi, i wonder what's your take on es as dire side to fissure radiant safelane 1st wave to their towers so your wave running into radiant tower. bias is that maybe radiant team get a free wave (or just exp), but dire definitely got a nicer lane from the beginning. good video btw, very inspiring ,can still learn the concept even back in old patch

@5updota Год назад

That play can work but if the enemys are good they will just push into you as much as they can and the wave will be back on their side. If you wanna do that play you need to be 100% sure that u can hold the wave in front of your tower plus you need to block the big and small camp so the enemys cant pull the wave back.

@leedanny8313 Год назад

@@5updota ok that’s a good note, Ty