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How To Make A Harley Davidson Milwaukee 8 Engine Homemade Vented Dipstick 

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@robertlarson8141
@robertlarson8141 Год назад
I put a fueling on my 2017 M8 bagger. I can assure you, the bike runs better. You need to release the positive pressure. I am a believer .
@harleyguzz4301
@harleyguzz4301 3 года назад
Hi ,Very similar to what I have done but what you must remember is that the black turn cap is just clipped on ,now that you have made a hole in the bottom to release pressure in to the dipstick body .pressure/oil mist can seep under the black cap. I sealed mine so the pipe is the only place for pressure to get out. Keep up the great work my friend. If it doesn't work a new dipstick is only 20 quid.
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Yep cheers. I added that point to my pinned comment as forgot to mention it in video. I'll be doing a follow up video soon. Dipstick Mark II. cheers
@love2breathe737
@love2breathe737 2 года назад
I'm going to do this with a few small changes...I will use clear silicone tubing and make a larger vent hole in the cap, this way you can visibly see any oily build up in the tube. Not riding season here yet but when I get it done I will leave some feedback...Thank you for the video...Very helpful...
@wtf0101
@wtf0101 3 года назад
Great video, I'll say one thing you do a good job showing people how to do things themselves and a hell of alot cheaper,if you go and buy all the aftermarket parts to fix the oil problems on HDs your talking thousands of dollars, keep up the good work 👍
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Thanks so much Dj Cheers
@ridingnewengland3192
@ridingnewengland3192 3 года назад
Planning on watching the update video next. Incredible job with the explanations and examples. Thanks.
@gillesf9163
@gillesf9163 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video but I think that the hole of tle ball pump pin is way to small if you consider the volume the piston are expelling. High flow in a small hole yield higher speed hence higher pressure that with a bigger hole.
@HUTProductionsuk
@HUTProductionsuk 3 года назад
I know the fueling has a 1 way check valve and I know you mentioned this in your video. The A1 ventilator (not for softail) has the theory the engine breaths both ways to best to have it free flowing.
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Yes could be right too. Cheers
@jonathongallant9105
@jonathongallant9105 3 года назад
Top work, great shout. I looked at all the options available to us in the UK from US and to your point, only really the fueling 1 that will post to the UK and the price is just crazy. Appreciate your vlog.
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Cool, thanks. Glad you enjoyed
@tegansmith5856
@tegansmith5856 3 года назад
Cut the stick’s O ring off and carry a rag to wipe off oil as necessary! I had this on one of my old Honda Fours back in the day. Of course, it was laziness that allowed it to stay that way, I didn’t realize I was an early adopter in the crankcase ventilation world!
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
ok cheers
@FranBunnyFFXII
@FranBunnyFFXII 3 года назад
I was gonna buy the Feuling one, but realized I could easily make one myself and save over 200$ doing so. My design is fairly similar to yours but the air passage is much larger. That air hole tube you used however is not large enough for pass through. The line needs to be 1/4th inch or larger. Demonstrate this by trying to breathe through that tiny tube, then go grab a juicebox straw. You can't breathe at all through that little tube, you'll pass out. You can almost breathe properly through the juicebox straw. Get a regular straw and you can breathe just fine. Same with the engine. That hole wont be large enough to let pressure pass through properly and will allow oil to channel up into the breathers. You arent going to notice much of a difference trying to let the engine vent through a hole meant to fill up soccerballs and basketballs slow enough that kids dont pop them.
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Can always drill a bigger hole I suppose
@FranBunnyFFXII
@FranBunnyFFXII 3 года назад
@@RevelatorAlf I plan on using 12mm stuff for mine.
@davidledward9820
@davidledward9820 11 месяцев назад
Are you selling this mod on line for a M8 Regards D
@FranBunnyFFXII
@FranBunnyFFXII 11 месяцев назад
@@davidledward9820 I actually didnt go with this. I went with the Trask CheckM8, and a Temperature Dipstick instead. Much better combination.
@simonhouel1984
@simonhouel1984 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this mod ! I'll wait a little bit to hear what your feelings are about this. The Feuling parts have been confusing a lot people lately :-)
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
thanks so much Simon. Yes I'll be interested in the results too. Cheers
@snakeoil2182
@snakeoil2182 3 года назад
How is it confusing?
@adamriley8731
@adamriley8731 3 года назад
Thanks for the video. From the limited information I know any m8 engine stage 2 or higher recommend having a vent due to higher compression and possible dry sumping issues. Great cheap fix!
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Thanks so much. Yes that's the case I believe too. Cheers
@simonhouel1984
@simonhouel1984 3 года назад
Stage 2 is just a new cam ... I don't think it modifies the compression.
@8610sarge
@8610sarge 3 года назад
I'm still not sure what I'm going for, DK customs in the US make the EBS, still waiting for a reply on the total cost, they want $44 just for the catch can without any of the hose or attachments, once I hear back I'll let you all know. I've got to admit that you've done something that will do just the same job, Yeh not fancy but that gives you £300 to spend on something nice for your bike or the missus, depending what means more to you lol, but good fix Alf, at least you've got the confidence to try it for the rest of us, I just don't agree with having to spend over £300 on the bike, yes the feuling vented dip stick looks the part and is very well put together, but its one or the other, vented dip stick or the EBS, there's arguments for both options, I'm definitely going to be looking out to see how you're getting on with it and see if it actually does help, a very simple, cheap remedy and looks like it will work, excellent video Alf👍.
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Thanks so much Sarge. Hopefully there will be some clear results one way or the other. Cheers
@thevellas8996
@thevellas8996 3 года назад
Another great Vlog Alf. After watching this, Ive just placed orders for parts to see if I can put together something. Let you know how I go.
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Great stuff. Cheers
@izekbalzly7041
@izekbalzly7041 3 года назад
Spacious gratitude. 🌸
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
You're welcome 😊
@rudymsmith
@rudymsmith 2 года назад
Oil pump on 2020+ M8 bikes is supposed to take care of sumping issues. Oil transfer issue was mainly with hydraulic clutches on touring bikes. 2021 Softails have a vented transmission cover. No oil transfer on my FLSB that I've been able to discern, but, i've not taken her on a long run yet.
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 2 года назад
yep
@Chilllybob
@Chilllybob Год назад
I have a 22 Road Glide Special I was doing 80 miles an hour for long periods Of time all of a sudden I felt like something was pulling my bike back like an anchor was attached. This happened two weeks ago this is a very weird feeling. So apparently sumping is definitely an issue.. I'm definitely going to get vented dipstick... The sumping issue was not resolved totally... You'll see when you do high speed for a long. Of time.
@neilfordham5790
@neilfordham5790 2 года назад
Hi Alf, great idea mate. I appreciate this is probably an old video but I am interested in how effective the mod was. All the best mate.
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 2 года назад
Cheers Neil. Yep it worked really well. It went through some variations but an inexpensive way to do it. I did some follow up vids I think too on it. Cheers
@davidcapstick3689
@davidcapstick3689 3 года назад
Class nice one Alf will wait on results before i do mine
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Cheers David
@pmk66
@pmk66 3 года назад
Great vids Alf, but u should mention that some of those football valves only work one way. So if u push it in to inflate ball the air won't expel back out. Therefore not what u would use for this application.
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Yes great point actually although mine isn’t like that. Cheers
@htorres5827
@htorres5827 3 года назад
can I get a video on the garage opener, you faithful subscriber
@renhoek
@renhoek 3 года назад
Love the fettling.....
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
ha ha Thanks Walter
@zeus9855
@zeus9855 3 дня назад
Seems like an awful lot of work to vent the crankcase. I’m thinking about 3D printing a solution to this issue.
@lenBrill1971
@lenBrill1971 2 года назад
I have just subscribed. I'm combing through your vids trying to find your follow-up. Help!
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 2 года назад
cheers
@joec2174
@joec2174 3 года назад
What happens when you check your oil and you rotate the dip stick.
@paulhorvath9784
@paulhorvath9784 3 года назад
Thanks for Sharing ,,,Just an idea ,, You can cut a Thin piece of Cigarette Filter and place it into the Top of Inflatable Head / Oval part to Stop anything Entering and just to provide a a Filtering Barrier.. Great Idea Alf..
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Great idea! Yep that could work great
@charlescastell4638
@charlescastell4638 3 года назад
great ideas, Alf. Appreciated!
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Thanks so much Charles
@danielgaskell5490
@danielgaskell5490 3 года назад
The first thing you may notice is that the dipstick will be easy to remove after a 40+ minute ride; prior you may have noticed it was hard to remove because of the pressure building in the crankcase!
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Yes I've noticed it slightly but nothing major to be fair
@danielgaskell5490
@danielgaskell5490 3 года назад
@@RevelatorAlf For the past 18 months until last week, every time I went out on a 45+ min. ride I’d check my oil level but realize at least half the time the dipstick was difficult or even not able to be moved by hand. I assumed the plastic expanded and forced the oil out from the grooves in the stick and was hung up from expanding. Instead, pressure pushes up on the stick and makes it hard to turn.
@daveb1242
@daveb1242 3 года назад
Brilliant, only flaw I can see is that if for some reason you did get excessive oil through that system you could oil the rear tyre. Although I couldn’t see the exact routing on the video
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
No risk of that as it is not near the rear tyre and the filter housing also acts as a catch can too. Cheers
@daveb1242
@daveb1242 3 года назад
@@RevelatorAlf excellent stuff 👍 does this breather issue happen on the 1200’s ?
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
@@daveb1242 I really don't know but this has been a growing issue with the M8s especially ones that have been upstaged. Cheers
@tomjones8883
@tomjones8883 3 года назад
But this venting is only required on the Touring range with hydraulic clutch which suffers from oil transfer from the gearbox to the primary. It’s not required on the Softails with a cable clutch
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
This has nothing to do with that Tom. Cheers
@overwatch65
@overwatch65 3 года назад
I’m not mechanical RA at all, so forgive the niave question. The valve you used is one way, I.e, air in, is the problem not letting pressure out?
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Actually in the end I just used an open valve. The long tubing allows for oil to drain back down too
@Baloski46
@Baloski46 3 года назад
Great stuff Alf, Do you think you could block the pipes in the air filter just to be on the safe side?
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Block no, but bypass them yes. I am producing a video to cover this hopefully soon. Cheers
@Baloski46
@Baloski46 3 года назад
@@RevelatorAlf you’re top bloke. 👍🏻
@ronshinall
@ronshinall 3 года назад
Are you getting any oil leakage where the two halves of the dipstick snap together?
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
You’ll need to watch the update video. Cheers
@davidsantiago3360
@davidsantiago3360 3 года назад
Life hacks baby
@timothydardar4909
@timothydardar4909 3 года назад
Would like to know if it helps any
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Wouldn’t we all
@briandickter2724
@briandickter2724 3 года назад
I $pent too much already on the H-D oil level/ temperature gauge dipstick. Someone should use your DIY vent technique on the super expensive temp/oil level dipstick. I want to add venting to mine. But I don’t want to drill my holes in the wrong places and destroy the electronics.
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
It's working so far, well my updated version is at least. Cheers
@glbligliliyglihglig
@glbligliliyglihglig 3 года назад
My 2021 streetglide trans. is already vented
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
ok great stuff
@ut1004bp
@ut1004bp 2 года назад
@@RevelatorAlf You miss this Revelator, the poster thinks his crankcase is vented already.. Yep Tom, your transmission was already vented at factory.. Revelator is talking CRANKCASE ventilation (though I don't think the dipstick method is the better way to do it)
@davidfuentes326
@davidfuentes326 3 года назад
On ur video from a month ago , u r saying that there is no data that supports about the carbon build up , so u r giving an impression that don’t vent the cap because of sensors and data . But from other videos the vent pipe was add on because of back pressure in the crank case .
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Yes, I clearly state in all of these videos that I am sceptical and I'm trying to generate some data and am only experimenting with these modifications to see if they work or not
@adrianedwards4549
@adrianedwards4549 3 года назад
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT EXTERNAL BREATHER SYSTEMS
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
I am trying to gather more data on this. I am producing another video for a homemade fix too and then determine whether it has any benefit or not. But I'll have to put some mile on it before there's any results. Cheers
@ihateemael
@ihateemael 3 года назад
@@RevelatorAlf i've done this to my 07 fatboy. sing out for info.
@alfiestory8011
@alfiestory8011 3 года назад
Can you do a how to for external breather with screaming eagle elite air cleaner.
@matt84712
@matt84712 3 года назад
You have circle k stores in england?
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
We used to, not sure if any are left these days
@matt84712
@matt84712 3 года назад
So heres a lesson learned…I have a 2018 Road King M8 107ci. I routed my upper breather hose out of the stock air intake mod. When i screwed the cover back on, the vacuum hose i used got pinched between the cover & the air filter by accident. Well, went for a ride & it was running weird, oil light came on. Stopped at a gas station & decided to check the oil, unscrewed it & oil exploded all over me, the pump & the side of the bike was covered in hot oil. It blew half a quart out. I refilled it, removed the air filter & saw where it was pinched. I feel lucky that the head gasket didn’t blow. The pressure in the bottom end was unreal. It just shows how important it is for this engine to breath.
@diyaclaudia9143
@diyaclaudia9143 3 года назад
Fantastic 😍💋 💝💖♥️❤️
@Jonathan-L
@Jonathan-L 3 года назад
6:56 ... 'a decorative one' = Willie G skull :)
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
ha ha perhaps
@alfiestory8011
@alfiestory8011 3 года назад
@@RevelatorAlf can you do a how to external breather using a screaming eagle elite air cleaner. There's alot out there for other air filters but none for this application.
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
@@alfiestory8011 I'm sure it could be done quite easily but I haven't looked at it in particular as of yet. Cheers
@alfiestory8011
@alfiestory8011 3 года назад
@@RevelatorAlf thanks for the reply Alf! Alot of guys and girls here in Sydney Australia have this set up but hard to find anyone here that want to help. Look forward to it when you get around to it.
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
@@alfiestory8011 OK cheers
@rotl9915
@rotl9915 3 года назад
have you come across any temp.gauges for the dipstick? either analog or digital.
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
I do believe there are some on the market but I haven't really looked to be fair. Happy hunting
@n4zou
@n4zou 3 года назад
Engine's and transmissions need to breath. The Greenies think you can just seal them up. Well you can't do that and not expect the norman venting action to take place somewhere and the current design is causing problems because it's venting through the intake and exhaust ports via the engine case. That's very bad in a dry sump engine design. Venting through the oil tank is not the best way to do it but it's better than no venting at all. The primary needs to be vented as well. If I had a new Harley Davidson (which I never will) I would install fittings on the engine, transmission, oil tank, and primary case with vent hoses attached to a proper breather box and filter.
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Yep that seems the way to go for all around protection. Cheers
@alebargna4824
@alebargna4824 3 года назад
The same thing for the breather into the air filter....it isn’t a good thing....take a look
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Yep got a video coming out soon to deal with that too
@paulrevere4326
@paulrevere4326 3 года назад
Personally, I think the price of the store bought vented dipstick is ridiculous. A person truly has more money than common sense if they feel they must have one.
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
I tend to agree
@matt84712
@matt84712 3 года назад
The guys at fueling are good salesmen. That, & people are dumb
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
I think people just get convince that these things will make massive differences but reality is they are usually negligible. Cheers
@ericharrington2673
@ericharrington2673 2 года назад
After paying $30,000 and then you have to use a vented dipstick… BS I will sell it in a heartbeat before I do that Harley get your shit together
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 2 года назад
Yep people been doing it for ages
@RevelatorAlf
@RevelatorAlf 3 года назад
Thanks for watching. Let me know what you think in the comments below. More videos like this here: ru-vid.com/group/PLmgCmljtdCzWrLg62oZxo0laIsmq4j67P As an addition: You may experience oil seeping from the base of the black cap. This is because it isn't a sealed cap. So you can either put on o ring or gasket sealer or what I have done is place some cloth on the inside of the dipstick shaft after removing the black cap. This still allowing airflow but stop the oil coming out.
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