Just a little advice, I've been doing production for 35yrs in Hollywood, CA. Get some "White tape" and label you channels on your mixer so you know thats on Ch.1-6 and it wouldn't be a bad idea to label the ends of your cables, so again at a quick glance you know that cables are what ie a "patch bay". Trust it cuts the guessing game out. If a issue should happen and trust me if you play long enough it will. You can Trouble shoot much faster. God Bless ya'll
To make space for the Nord on that mixer, you could set your clicks/tracks to have a mono output from the computer and have only one of those 1/4” connected, and connect the nord into that input. You guys are running mono ears and a mono mix out so it wouldn’t really matter if clicks are stereo. So essentially 1. Run your clicks/tracks mono from your DAW that runs clicks 2. Disconnect the black OR red 1/4” coming from the computer 3. Plug the Nord into the open input 4. All done
A much better way to monitor with headphones is to use the "send" output, then you can make a unique headphone only mix using the GREY send knobs, and this does not alter your master outs. You can look at the grey AUX "send" knobs as if its a second mixer....... I'm happy to clarify, just ask me...
@@MWD19862809I can explain now that I did some research 😂 basically the jacks labeled “aux” are just more outputs that you can mix individually from the main output. Instead of plugging the headphone amp into one of the main outs, plug it into an aux output so that way you can personalize the mix being sent to the aux (this case would be the headphone amp) rather than changing the entire mix coming out of the main output. For more clarification you can look up videos describing how to use aux sends. Basically what I did
Great works y’all. Love the fact you guys make things works on the budget. This is what I’ve been doing at small churches throughout the Native American communities. Keep up the good work. Blessings 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Guys, I know you're hearts are in the right place but, you really shouldn't be putting this out as a suggested method. Not least because your headphone amp is expecting a stereo signal but because you're using a mono line (one side of the desk's outs) you're having to push the plug in only half way. This really is not a good solution, even on a budget.
I know your heart is in the right place but your comment is for another video. When doing what you can with what you have all you can can expect is for these guys to get better. Not a warning on what is obviously working for them and even helping other people. Give your comments to the professionals, not for two upcoming professionals that are paving their way to success.
@@rodneyjackson5586 Sorry but I disagree. What they do in their own church is totally up to them. They're getting something to work for them with limited resources, good on them. BUT, they shouldn't be putting it up here on YT as a suggested method for others to copy.
This was good fellas. Question about what you said at minute 9:45.... why is that? I did that by default at my Church just messing around, but I never knew the reason why putting the cord in half way works like that
How do you run this set up to the front of house please.... Cos what was mentioned was the run out into an irig... But how do u still keep this set up and run it out to the front of house speakers?
this setup literally looks like my home studio set-up. :). Love it! I would recommend working on cable management, because that can be done regardless of budget. :) and maybe make a update video so we can see how ya'll have grown, its been 3 years. :)
Question: do you create another mixer for the vocals? And how would you connect the 2 mixers please. This video has been so helpful for me trying to do talkback and clicks setup. Thank you
Im impressed with the amount of hits you received.... but im concerned that you didnt have a diagram written down about what is connected to what... seems like a lot of guessing. The reason why you put a 1/4" adapter half way is because of ring and tip.... you are using a mono plug for a stereo socket or vice versa, you need to know the difference between a mono 1/4" adapter (guitar or instrument cable) which has only one black line verses a stereo 1/4" adapter that has two. The video was filled with how to connect instruments to a mixer and the topic was basically the headphone amplifier which was the main way that the musicians can hear the "talk back mic" moving the balance to the left and playing sounds on the right is nice for bass and guitar... but keyboard and organ should be in stereo... so when you use a MONO side for the keyboard input you loose the stereo sound of the keyboard. Its very clear that this is ONLY for the musicians and NOT for the vocals or choir... but using a mixer with buses could do the same thing. so the musicians cant hear the choir through the headphones? you can easily bring the choir mics into the mixer if you wanted too but the correct way is to use a real mixer that has aux/buses/sends/groups etc There is nothing special about the set up... the headphone is just its own mixer that allows multiple headphones to have independent volumes to each musician but technically the mixer had nothing to do with that device so you could have NO instruments and the headphone mixer would still work where every musician could hear whats ever going into it. So the video could have been to the point of the headphone amplifier. so anyone who dont know how to connect a PA system would appreciate the video but the entire point of the video was the headphone amplifier NOT the instruments that connects to the mixer. I also suggest to label the ends of each cable so you dont have to guess what is connected on the other end.... so Im happy that you receive a lot of views but its like the blind leading the blind if you dont understand how mixers work. The way that the talk back system works is using the headphone amplifier you can pan instruments to the left and you can pan the talk back mike to the right, that is a cheap way to do it. I believe in giving God my best not my cheapest... but to each is own. You can accomplish the same thing if you had a mixer with buses. You could bus the talk back channel and use the same cheap headphone amplifier but keep the stereo instruments in stereo... you are compromising how the stereo keyboard plays black the sounds just to save a few dollars. Im not a fan of cutting corners just to save some money. buy professional gear for church but many churches do not invest in professional gear.
Dude, the video is about a budget. Reading is fundamental. Your commentary is so irrelevant while needful and helpful for sooo many people that just need basics and can grow from there. If you have a better way, do your own video.
If you were going to do a set up like this. Just be careful because he is using a quarter inch or 1/4 to the mixer for some of his instrument. The problem with using a Quarter inch cable is that it might not be balance and depending on your budget it might cost too much to buy balance cable. To purpose of using a balance cable is that you will get a better sound and you won’t get nose from cable. Yes you can get noise from cheap cable that is why it is best to use a balance cable. Another idea is that you can buy a direct box to balance out your quarter inch cable. There are many different types of the boxes that are affordable. This is just a suggestion only because for his church this is might work but for other the churches or people trying to set up cables, you can run into a lot of different problem.
One side is for the click/metronome and Cues such as it telling us there is a verse coming up or a chorus. The other one is for us to hear the other instruments such as electric guitar or aux. Just incase an instrument is too loud at a certain part,then we can adjust it immediately rather then someone else without inears telling us that it is too loud in the house. Does that make sense?
Depends on what you want going out through the house and what you want just your band to hear or both so, the talk back mic, the click and cues and vocals should be panned just so the band can hear it in their ears. The backing track can be centered or panned the opposite way because you already have the click and cues and it would be going out through the house. Does that make sense?
would be better off selling the 2 mixers you have and buying something better, more complication than it's worth, analog mixers are very, very cheap now since anybody that can do better has went digital.
