Never worry if something is too simple. There's always someone who doesn't know how to do something (or is at a different stage in learning than you are).
TheGeekPub that's right,we can't make alone,we can do great a field while people would do other fields better or they're not exhaust of thinking so they can easily make solution.
I watched your video to see if it was even possible for me to make my own spring. It answered my question. Yes, I now know it is possible and will try it soon. Thank you for posting the video. It told me what I needed to know.
There is that saying there's many ways to skin a cat and some may need an idea on an easier way to do something. There IS a more complex way of making a torsion spring but your way achieves the same result a lot more simply.
@Mike Hegarty Me too! I've been woodworking for 20 years but watch em all because who knows? Maybe someone has come up with a better/easier way. For eg: I watched a video by William Ng (I think that was his name). Saw him using vernier calipers. I've worked with certified Master Carpenters who didn't. I picked up a cheap pair for $10 and the quality and ease of my work has increased 10 fold.
Your description was very clear. With the spring steel wire, without heat treatment, sometimes tight bending can fracture the said wire. In the case of yours, clearly it was ‘outside’ those limits. Thanks for the good video.
Don't feel silly... some people's "so simple it doesn't seem worthy for a video" is other people's "dang, he's hard core... I'll never be able to do that". Your content and approach are enjoyable, even for people who will never in their lifetime build their own machines like you do.
Piano wire, or "music wire", is a specialized type of wire made for use in piano strings. It is made from tempered high-carbon steel, also known as spring steel, which replaced iron as the material starting in 1834
I have been "fooling around" making things for over sixty years and would not have thought to try making a torsion spring that large until I saw it done. It's the visual medium that does the trick. Your presentations are very professional.
I just used this method to make a spring, very good. One improvement to the method is to first bend an inch of one end of the wire to 90 degresss. trapping this bend against your holding bolt, under the washers, will remove the need for a drill bit as a spacer and (more importantly) stop the wire from twisting at all whilst you are bending. Doing this my springs came out with virtually no slant on them.
I’ve had your grinder plans for about a year, slowly building, acquiring parts, been stuck on the damn hay baler finger for a couple weeks haha, thank you google... and Jeremy:)
Great video. Very well explained. "Too simple" things do not exist. Everybody has his own level of capabilities. For somebody it's easy to build a spring but I think the majority of people never made one. It was very interesting to watch this video. Thanks for sharing.
I should have a grandchild like you are, he would have appreciated things I did in my life. I was a grandchild like you are but I never had that much room to move around. You are doing very well, keep it up, it's enjoyable. The grandfather.
I have a tbi so my English sucks and it's the only language I ever learned so thank you for making the video it is great to put knowledge out there and what seems simple for one is a wonder for someone else not everyone grew up in the same great or terrible life so a doctor knows how to fix a cold but can't change a tire a mechanic knows how to fix a car but can't do brain surgery so thank you what maybe of seemed silly to you was a great video for so many people
Thanks, not having done this I'd have thought some heating would be required to properly form the spring. I now understand that would reduce it's tensile strength so this video was very helpful.
Cool! This old tony has a good spring making video as well. His was more showing off fancy spring tools and yours was more about getting it done for the sake of the project you needed the spring for originally. Learned a bit from both. Everybody has gaps in their knowledge and nobody knows everything so anything you feel like sharing is a contribution to the online knowledge library. It doesn't matter how simple it is! Personally I watched this video because I wanted to see how YOU make springs because I like your style. Another person may prefer a different way to make springs entirely. My point is any experience you want to share with youtube is not a waste. A person gets better at something with experience. By sharing our experience on the internet we can all learn a lot and do a lot more in a lifetime then our fathers and grandfathers. Thanks for sharing Jeremy! Hope all is well in Arizona!
It is a very worthy video, not everyone would think to make their own tension spring out of Piano Wire... Remember just because you find things easy does not mean everyone else will... Food for thought... Cheers...
Don't have a use for such a thing now. But the principle of how to make it was learned. Great ,great presentation. The "use yourhead" joke was a riot. Your tongue in cheeck expression was hilarious. Thank for the video
Dude! I'm SO glad you made and posted this. After not being able to find the torsion spring I need to bring a cantilever outdoor umbrella back to life, I wondered if I could make my own. During my search for a spring, I saw reference to music wire, which was new to me, so your video rang bells. Thanks so much!!
Any creation is not silly. Thought and process goes into every idea no matter how simple. Simple is good and people understand; talk above people's heads and you fail! Great video!
Nothing is wrong with this post! You should upload even more if you have the capacity to do so. There are a lot of novice out there, I'm one of them, and every bit of new information is valuable! Keep it up!
It wasn’t too “silly” for me! I needed to know if heating and quick cooling in oil was necessary. Guess not! ThNk you for taking the time to make and post this!
You're right that if the loose end of the wire gets away from you, it can do you some damage. I did that making a spring out of heavy copper wire, and even that cut my finger pretty good. I used a bolt for the mandrell so that the coils would approximately follow the threads, and it wound pretty close that way. I think this is a valuable video, especially for those who are going to build your grinder. The safety factor alone was needed. I should have known that you're a farm guy. We learn how to do a lot of things that other folks don't get the opportunity to. Thanks for the video!
+Jim Hester I just hope I made the safety aspect clear enough. Makes me cringe to think of what could happen. I agree, farm kids get a lot of exposure to mechanical wonders, as well as the ingenuity required to fix them.
i am so glad things are easy for some, if not most ppl. i tend to misinterpret what i read, or trying to describe what's needed or ask questions that others understand is frustrating. I Will Always Welcome instructions about anything, even if i don't get it at first. (1st time on planet~E) Thanks for Your Time! ~ peace
Yep, completely worth your time to make and post. Not all of us see the same obvious that others see while I might see an obvious that you don't, Good job
Great video and you just gained a new subscriber! This not too simple to post. Watching you go through the process and even having to make some corrections on the fly was very informational. You are also great at creating, editing, and narrating videos. Please keep posting simple videos! Thanks so much.
I had a 3/8 pipe x 3ft that I used to lever the complete spring. I kept the tip of the pipe rubbing the top edge of the last coil allowing the friction to move the pipe (this retains a constant hold back on the spring wire). The smaller diameter pipe allows the the bend to occur only where needed and left a perfect spring with slight tweak. I was surprised when finished the small amount of wire left in the pipe. This was as easy as I have ever made a custom spring. A real plus is I have a free standing vise in the middle of the floor that allowed me to walk 6 plus turns without stopping or the need for a vise grip to hold down the spring wire.
I got plenty out of this video. Your vids are right up there with Diresta and Matthias, Jeremy... You get the thumbs up before I even watch it. Cheers!
This is my favorite kind of video. I'd rather see what people do to accomplish something, than large builds like the grinder build. Not that the grinder build was bad, I watched it all and liked it. It's just easier to watch a short video like this than an entire series.
+billybobjoe198 Thanks for the feedback! I've noticed you aren't alone with that opinion, so I think in the future I'll try to break my large projects up into smaller sub-projects. Not multi-part series, but rather separate projects that work together to make a larger project.
I watch every video you make, even when I'm not interested in the topic specifically, because everything you do is interesting, and I always learn something. So thank you!
I am about as handy as a paper umbrella, but I think with your instruction...Naah, who am I kidding, I’ll never be able to build stuff like you, but it’s very cool to watch you work..thanks for the inspiration and the dreams.
'I feel a little bit silly ....' ..... but the entertainment value is priceless, esp. the advice on how to use one's head- not always as straight-forward as it seems. Thanks, mate.
Glad that you made a video on this; I need to replace a spring on a guillotine cutter for a print shop and there were a lot of helpful hints here which will save me some skin. Much appreciated.
Jeremy: this is how they made the original Motorcycle Valve Springs, which sat in the open, I am of the impression this is a preferable spring even for the Generation 2. This style of spring can utilize even low grade steel, it is commonly referred to as a portion style spring. While the Spring you chose for Gen 2 is simple, the class of having made your own spring as part of the project adds an additional involvement for the end builder. you may also consider a true torsion bar spring, in some part of the world good steel especially spring steel is more scarce or costly. Adding a very low tech item to the build if done by proper design may also be an attraction not a detriment. Something to consider Cheers and Thanks for Listening Again Great Video, and for some who have never considered it a useful means to the creation to making your own spring. Not a waste of time at all. Well done.
You are a clever young man. I just comment on the name you used for your spring, it’s a spring which provide you with torsion by bending stress. A helical spring, like most car springs today work by torsion, also straight torsion bars were used in Doge, Plymouth ‘72, ‘73 and in the VW Beatles too. I like what you do, keep it up.
Ain't nothin' simple 'bout this. Piano wire can be a cantankerous beast at the best of times and one needs to know its character. A fabulous solution to your problem. Spring making is somewhat akin to practising voodoo! You've done well.
Excellent video, to you it looks simple but before to me it's was not. Its the first time but not the last to watch your video. Please post many more ,. Thanks
Very worth it, buddy. Although simple, they're still informative (I have not made my own spring before) to probably most of us. Seeing your mistakes is also very helpful as to not repeat them.
Great video! To improve the safety and get a more uniform bend, just use the pipe (like you did at the end) to slip over the piano wire during the coiling. Slip it all the way down to the coil so that the bending moment on the piano wire is concentrated near your mandrel. Thanks for the video!
+Chris Cirone The issue with that idea (I tried it) is that the wire curves, and the pipe tends to slide out, away from the mandrel. It's nearly impossible to get a tight, consistent coil. By doing it with bare hands, I can actually pull on the wire, where a pipe effectively pushes it.
Glad you made the video. Prior to watching it I would have thought that making a spring required heat treatment. Obviously that wire was already heat treated, and forming it around the mandrel did not ruin it. Cool!
You need not apologise just because you think it is simple. For me it was genius. I have to make torsion springs for hand clamps but did not know how to go about it. Thanks to you now i know what to do.
Jer, do not worry about posting "simple things" on your channel. There are members of an ancient tribe of humans, refered to as "Bassakwardites", which refers to their approach to createing problems where none exists. By the time that they have failed to follow suggestions, or firm directions, falling off from a small log, may find them stuck twelve feet up in the limbs of an adjoining tree. In fifty years of building stamping dies, and injection molds, I have used a lot of off the shelf springs, but never needed to bend my own. Now I will go forth with great courage. Please caution all who try this, to protect their "guts" from a run away spring. Thank you.
Definitely worth it, and I felt that after I did read all the the viewers positive comments which learned me much, thank U 4 sharing, and by the way I like your (DIRESTA) T-shirt.
Be careful when adding the spacer, as the spring needs to reduce its diameter when compressing. If the spacer is too big or the travel is too much, the spring will behind on the spacer and you'll end up bending the ends of the spring.
I think adding the spacer inside the coiled part of the spring is a neat idea, but as you mention you have to make sure there is enough space for the spring to compress around the spacer so that it never gets compressed tight around the spacer as that would just bend the tails of it. I think Jeremy will be just fine in this case as he used a 1/2" spacer inside and as the inner diameter of the coiled spring is closer to 1" there's plenty of space, especially as Jeremy is only turning the tails about 1/2 turn so the inner diameter of the spring is still a lot larger than 1/2", he could probably have used 3/4" and still end up fine. :-) You _could_ calculate the exact change in inner diameter as you know how many turns the coil have and the inner diameter of the spring in relaxed state, and then solve for 1/2 a turn less, but I haven't had my morning coffee yet so will leave the numbers to someone else. :-)
