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How to make B-TIERS into GIANT KILLERS in IDLE HEROES 

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This new update lets up turn our weaker heroes into some of the strongest heroes in Idle Heroes. Unfortunately, it costs far more than people want to spend. Good idea, terrible design.
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@chrisackerman696
@chrisackerman696 Год назад
Imagine people complaining that they can’t afford to buy or pull an A- then the devs are like oh ok go ahead and sack A- hero’s to finally get one 😂
@armokil
@armokil Год назад
as said by someone else in the comments, we need a- tier 5 star puppets that cant be used for anything else other than upgrading as rewards
@SentryxVoid
@SentryxVoid Год назад
Yeah it literally makes no sense otherwise.... Also if they do add puppets that's annoying because more shit to take up our limited bag space.
@DaddyDeGrand
@DaddyDeGrand Год назад
You should also talk about how the help menu doesn't even mention the horrendous cost that you need to pay to upgrade from B+ to A-. If people don't inform about this externally beforehand, they only learn about this after the fact. It's an honest to god scam.
@sverredesagher874
@sverredesagher874 Год назад
Something else I think that could work is if you needed like 5 (better if it were less) of the same tier for example when you want to go to A- you would need 5 B+
@sahilpurrun644
@sahilpurrun644 Год назад
They can give us those "awakened puppets" as a reward in a soul awakening gala...for example : reach 50 points to get a B- puppet and 100 points to get a B puppet and 150 points to get a B+ puppet...But they'll have to give us the previous rewards as well...(I mean the artifacts and melon chest when you reach 100 and 150 points)
@sahilpurrun644
@sahilpurrun644 Год назад
Or they'll just have to increase the odds of getting b- or above on the heroes while awakening them
@twhittleone
@twhittleone Год назад
Cheers for the video. Really informative
@feral_shade
@feral_shade Год назад
To what does "INVALID" (at 12:50) refer?
@Vil_Daps
@Vil_Daps Год назад
would this change the pricing in the future in the auction house or will they change the requirements?
@dkci1610
@dkci1610 Год назад
14:27 why the aspen, asmodel and aylamak don't have awakenings ?
@Alsadius
@Alsadius Год назад
Regarding your comment about how it might have made sense at the prices several months ago, re-run the costs based on those same prices. I can't imagine it'd look any better. Five A- copies to get one A- copy is only imaginable if there's at least a 5:1 price ratio between different heroes, which I don't think has ever happened. (And that's even before you consider all the B range food needed.) The only situation where this might make sense is the really thin servers, like Amazon. So if there's no auction house volume to give you options, this might be imaginable.
@zakiramad
@zakiramad Год назад
Why did the discord notification say "it's cheap?"
@ashleymartin3260
@ashleymartin3260 Год назад
12:50 Invalid?
@ernestyunardi7454
@ernestyunardi7454 Год назад
it’s should be each awakened copy have a value. Example: You can upgrade to A- for 100 pts where A- is 20 pts, B+ is 5 pts, B is 2 pts, B- is 1 pts. And make it simple dhgames.. apply only 1 mechanism, if it’s fix copy amount then no need for the progress bar. If it’s a progress bar, then each copy will increase stats until it reach A- threshold and can be upgraded. I prefer the progress bar where we can feed our copy little by little and increase the stats of the hero. I’m sure this will benefit all even f2p.
@JohnMelon
@JohnMelon Год назад
If I ever really need a proper explanation that makes simple sense, this is where I come too. Solid content lad!
@mjm3091
@mjm3091 Год назад
This is only usable, if they introduce like A-rank Awakened Puppets as event rewards that can't be regressed or sold. 13:00 I think it was Wraec who said it first. 14:00 They already added the Destiny materials to the mix though. This would be a good reward for the events that has been lacking, or maybe as new tier for Gala. Or new secured reward for the awakening event - like giving everyone a B stone + A- Puppet would work well. Or pop it as reward for some new game mode or higher tiers of older game modes. Even if it wasn't replenishable, if we all got 5 A- puppets and some B+ puppets - this would suddenly be an option for everyone to have at least one A- hero on their team. 14:25 To be fair with you - if they pushed the Sublimation Chest to the usual F2P range and put Puppet Chests where the Subs were - wouldn't be the worst, because that would be just less Artifacts, which are already super easy to get these days and not really that relevant either. 14:45 Btw what are the daily gains for these in the Campaign? Cause both of them are normal daily rewards in it around like 2-6-0 or something? If I remember correctly. 15:15 Like I genuinely hope that if this happened - they would just add those as good tier rewards for stuff like Fantasy Factory or the Mysterious Chest event. Or put Artifacts into lower tiers of those events and have no Artifacts in big events - now replaced with Puppets and Sublimation.
@Thoughts__36
@Thoughts__36 Год назад
Mk woke up and decided to be a math teacher.
@jshtng78
@jshtng78 Год назад
The system is called Soul PERFECTION. It's therefore meant to push from very very nearly perfect to absolutely perfect. Anyone who is just trying to get 'decent' can forget about this system. At this point they should just remove all Sublimation Essence from events and dole it out as grind resources from Void Campaign or something.
@sirpoopsalot5285
@sirpoopsalot5285 Год назад
12:50 INVALID
@jayess237
@jayess237 Год назад
This'll be good for everyone in 3 years. But by then, you'll have to get holographic heroes to get "God Killer" and A- is the minimum cost to enter Virtual Void Holo-Campaign.
@emilcalugar2865
@emilcalugar2865 Год назад
its so true it hurts :))..truth hurts
@darisokic1186
@darisokic1186 Год назад
Daddy Mk should i focus o Void imprints or Glory Challenge❤
@user-fw2ks3zz8b
@user-fw2ks3zz8b Год назад
They are probably gonna add soul awakened puppets in future like in event we will start getting soul awakened puppets
@Georgifer
@Georgifer Год назад
The more people that do this the more A teirs will go down in value because there will be tons of them like mock and etc
@StopLootingPLS
@StopLootingPLS Год назад
lmao no. if people do this you're just removing mass amounts of a tiers from the ecosystem. if anything it just pushes the value of a rolls on meme heroes up.
@jamis1232
@jamis1232 Год назад
Can be worth for aspen it is worth it for me because I have a b aspen with a- attack nearly at the top and those copies cost thousands anyway so I could get good value
@Mezer_PoE
@Mezer_PoE Год назад
Never worth it
@jamis1232
@jamis1232 Год назад
@@Mezer_PoE for me it would be cheaper but I’m not spending money until they lower it or add some sort of puppets
@Mezer_PoE
@Mezer_PoE Год назад
@jamis1232 idk how it'd be worth it for you. The math ain't mathing. Sure if they give us puppets but otherwise it's never worth it unless instead of 5 A- it was 3. 38k sg to go from B+ to A- you can just buy nearly an A aspen. Sometimes with good or perfect bonus stats. The perfection cost doesn't factor in hammers too
@jamis1232
@jamis1232 Год назад
@@Mezer_PoE I said I’ve got b going to b+ with a- attack on the verge of going to a so it would be 2 k less starry but ig I worded it weirdly
@NoName-cu4gr
@NoName-cu4gr Год назад
@@jamis1232 burning five A- copies to get one A- copy, really?
@Cj27173
@Cj27173 Год назад
I checked if I could, I need B tiers of the factions
@jamis1232
@jamis1232 Год назад
Oooh mk
@weabowoshi
@weabowoshi Год назад
its so hilariously bad unless DH does a thing ive seen some people say and that is to give "awakened" puppets (that cant be retired or sold) as event rewards
@weabowoshi
@weabowoshi Год назад
Oops he says it in the vid ignore this
@dannyvo79
@dannyvo79 Год назад
You can get a s rank hero sounds like a money grab to me
@Trizzy1914
@Trizzy1914 Год назад
POV: You haven't watched the entire video.
@e.k2261
@e.k2261 Год назад
You are correct
@Masekiler
@Masekiler Год назад
Nuh uh
@e.k2261
@e.k2261 Год назад
@@Masekiler yuh huh
@nuclearcrayons3511
@nuclearcrayons3511 Год назад
Triple the cost and remove the second screen. At a minimum it would be 3 heros of equal rank to the one you want to upgrade l.
@richivey1044
@richivey1044 Год назад
Have a B+ Jahra on the cusp. This is insanely disappointing
@empiregamingtv4975
@empiregamingtv4975 Год назад
So my ss oberon can be used as food... Interesting
@ianmckinney3446
@ianmckinney3446 Год назад
They could of just removed needing a copy and put a pity timer on each hero.
@alndbadi7268
@alndbadi7268 Год назад
Dh be like: aint nobody getting the ssm drv and lfa
@Captain_Pine_oo
@Captain_Pine_oo Год назад
This can't be real, what were they smoking🤣
@SleepyMelv.
@SleepyMelv. Год назад
I sold my A- heart watcher for 5545 or something
@mszabi88
@mszabi88 Год назад
So now make sense that they removed the b stone from awakening gala :D. Hope, that iam wrong. Also Not all of us have starry gems to buy copys.... just saying :D
@ernestyunardi7454
@ernestyunardi7454 Год назад
DH games does not do research the pricing at auction house and their own pricing at their hero retirement
@ghilyerrap-sr5pp
@ghilyerrap-sr5pp Год назад
Imagine DH adding VIP 14-20😅
@OliBs76
@OliBs76 Год назад
Realistically, the prices of A- heroes will only drop as DH games add more stones in the circulation. It just goes to show how terrible value this is.
@InferiorSherlock
@InferiorSherlock Год назад
I think this is one of or the worst systems DH has ever added to the game
@patrykwas1320
@patrykwas1320 Год назад
Imo, idea is great. What's terrible is how they manage to make this more costly than normal copy of a hero.
@InferiorSherlock
@InferiorSherlock Год назад
@@patrykwas1320 yeah decent idea but terribly executed
@jacklovelock1953
@jacklovelock1953 Год назад
​@@InferiorSherlock pretty much this. The cost to make them ensures that this is useless. If it was easy though, A tiers would have no value. Stupidly hard to balance and would have been easier to just not add this feature.
@InferiorSherlock
@InferiorSherlock Год назад
@@jacklovelock1953 I know, still a bad system, maybe 2 A- or 3 A- but not 5
@SleepyMelv.
@SleepyMelv. Год назад
@@InferiorSherlock still bad
@tonysobon4669
@tonysobon4669 Год назад
Of course they are going to add graded puppets to the game and it is the only reason they made it so you need graded A- copies to make a graded A- copy. The question is how badly do they screw this game up . I am just pretending this wasn't added until they add graded puppets to the game and see how they re-value event rewards. There is a chance this could actually work out but for both DH games and the players but I am worried since in truth I am still mad about the Arcade mode and just the logic of them adding all these things but failing to add gameplay to make me want to spend money to "progress" , I mean for "gameplay" they copy pasted a "boss battle" in void camp and that is what worries me the most.
@aitordominguezcomin9147
@aitordominguezcomin9147 Год назад
They did so many things at the same time. This is gonna be useless for us mortals
@GabbaViking
@GabbaViking Год назад
A- Goes for 20 000 + in the market tho ..
@akaglistenair811
@akaglistenair811 Год назад
sometimes i wonder what dh devs rly smoking
@bman977
@bman977 Год назад
Are devs high?
@Vally375
@Vally375 Год назад
yes
@NoName-cu4gr
@NoName-cu4gr Год назад
This ill conceived garbage is just a waste of everyones time, the cost of going from B+ to A- (which is the only thing most players are looking for) is utterly ridiculous and very much a huge insult to the player base. It's not even close to being worth using this, DH are losing their way with this game.
@ljessecusterl
@ljessecusterl Год назад
Agreed. This is a bigger misstep than the arcade.
@seanmarrsfist
@seanmarrsfist Год назад
I have an idea kind of unrelated to this update but could be a cool idea anyways. What if glory challenge gave an A- stone. Make it something that takes about year of f2p playing to unlock and make the copy you use it on can't be sold, retired, or otherwise traded in any way shape or form. I think this would be a great way to help accounts progress while not screwing over the ecosystem at all. Thoughts?
@regibro1315
@regibro1315 Год назад
then people would have less reason to spend all of dh games actions make it clear all they care about is money
@seanmarrsfist
@seanmarrsfist Год назад
@@regibro1315 or on the flip side people could get a taste of the power of an A- and want more copies.
@MahfoudElfra
@MahfoudElfra Год назад
Hi
@frostygenshinimpact3183
@frostygenshinimpact3183 Год назад
this is not about being worth it or not, you guys are not seeing the real picture here, this is a markting bait like its infront of our eyes, but no one is speaking about it. he speaks about how non of this is worth it and upgrading is not worth it, THATS THE BAIT. " its better to buy the starry gems and buy a A or A- oursels. its a bait update
@MariquitMarjon
@MariquitMarjon Год назад
This only makes the game worse since the copies will be more expensive. Tsk2
@renitentgnome8943
@renitentgnome8943 Год назад
This could have been one of the best systems in the game but they implemented that way wrong and I don’t think this is ever good
@daytonpannell
@daytonpannell Год назад
The exceptions to the rule don't determine the worth of an trash update though. The VAST majority of players won't actually use it.
@emilcalugar2865
@emilcalugar2865 Год назад
I love how nobody realise what DH are doing. The last updates are all focused on whales to give them something to buy as FOMO starts to get in. They gave the power upgrades stuff and probably will release A- puppets. These 2 new things will get them huge money. Its their business to get money and give whales things to buy. All their business is focused on milking money from whales. They give 0 f...k on F2P or low spenders and even about ballancing the game. The game survided for 7 years and its making huge money so their strategy of making money is good. F2p or low spenders who are frustrated just quit and move an, the game wont suffer a bit. If you are for the long run these updates will get easier and cheeper. Now its expensive so they can milk the money from FOMO.
@MeF0r3v3r
@MeF0r3v3r Год назад
For the majority of players, this doesn't exist. Just ignore everything that is bait and unworthy of doing. They don't care about gaming, they are probably not even gamers...
@white518
@white518 Год назад
What are they smoking
@dennismartinez7886
@dennismartinez7886 Год назад
This is bad. Hey remember that other fun game mode they made. Yeah me either. (Arcade) I wonder what yahoo makes these changes and convinces the devs it’s a great idea. Great salesman.
@idleyt3103
@idleyt3103 Год назад
DH Games, fire whichever employee did this. This is by far the worst update i have seen. It is an actual slap in the face to everyone.
@shayanmiraj4346
@shayanmiraj4346 Год назад
it's scamm
@jacksonjason-nt4wf
@jacksonjason-nt4wf Год назад
first :D
@Undead33
@Undead33 Год назад
Rare dub by DH
@devonpowell8837
@devonpowell8837 Год назад
So this is just for whales to get a ss to sss lol
@MeF0r3v3r
@MeF0r3v3r Год назад
But to make a sss you need 5 ss and some s.....
@kaioken1482
@kaioken1482 Год назад
yet another "big brain dead" new function by the dev. amazing stuff. whoever suggest this need a slap and throw out the window.
@pulsebr5625
@pulsebr5625 Год назад
Go figure DH games dont know what their doing 😂
@sensefunhouse8586
@sensefunhouse8586 Год назад
It is by far the dumbest shit I’ve seen in idle Heroes. Not even a DUMB whale is going to whale because its just not worth it. "Hey i want a B+ copy!" DH: "well you best cough up 5 other B+‘s then hahaha" thats dumb. I wang ONE B+ and need 5 others? Or i want a A- and need 5 other A-? That’s illogical
@johnselchua5549
@johnselchua5549 Год назад
Dh game keeps on releasing new game modes that keep whales spend more and keep f2p quit the game.
@MeF0r3v3r
@MeF0r3v3r Год назад
And then suddenly the game is dead
@Slipfest
@Slipfest Год назад
To summarise : yet another useless update 😂
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