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HOW TO make excellent quality SILAGE! | Is MULTICUT worth it? | 100+ silage samples 

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This video is something a little bit different! We get into the details on how to make PERFECT (or close enough) silage!
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@MCMilkingIt
@MCMilkingIt 18 дней назад
Excellent video! Thank you so much for making it. It is great to have all the right information in one place and straight to the point. I like the way you're going with the channel. Keep it up!
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 16 дней назад
Thank you! Very hard to find that information otherwise!
@jeffwheeler7244
@jeffwheeler7244 5 месяцев назад
I'm sorry to ask a question on an old video, but when you talk about leaving nitrogen in the grass before cutting for silage, does this include ammonical nitrogen, too?
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 5 месяцев назад
Yep, it all gets broken down to the same Nitrate
@michaelcanny5174
@michaelcanny5174 11 дней назад
Great video thanks for sharing all the information on probably the most important job on the farm.
@jerryryan8769
@jerryryan8769 11 месяцев назад
I’d love to se your fertiliser plan for your multi cut system , so that would be how much artificial nitrogen and slury you spread for each cut and intended harvest dates , I learned a bit off this video thanks 👍
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
I will absolutely do a video on that.
@tristangibbs2351
@tristangibbs2351 11 месяцев назад
So the very early silage making where they made vacuum silage we’re doing 1 thing right pumping the air out of the silage if they just didn’t let it heat up would be perfect! The 4 hours drying makes sense 5th cut the driest we baled had been cut the morning we picked up
@johnmcelroy1146
@johnmcelroy1146 4 месяца назад
Another very informative video AW. Thanks and do be encouraged to keep them coming.
@dekdek551
@dekdek551 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely 💯 stonking share, interesting and equally informative 👍. Absolutely 💯 loved it!.
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Thank you! I was unsure if this was a good or bad idea. 😅
@jeffwheeler7244
@jeffwheeler7244 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for your time in answering. it is much appreciated. Jeff wheeler
@ericmurray1679
@ericmurray1679 11 месяцев назад
Fantastic video and very interesting! Could you please do a similar video for Maize silage?
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Not really since I dont grow maize!
@tonymckeage1028
@tonymckeage1028 6 месяцев назад
Great Video, personally I'm not a big fan of talking to camera, the key to your success is you linked practise to sound science, after 4 years of studying ag degrees I don't recall a detailed lecture on making good silage, or perfect silage, I watch guys making silage with JCB's dumping buckrake loads in one spot compared to USA where that push the silage up the heap spreading and compacting an inch thick layer, they always have 3 big tractors with lots of weight per chopper 2 rolling and 1 pushing, thanks for sharing
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 6 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@johnhannan7804
@johnhannan7804 11 месяцев назад
Defo one of the best videos ive seen on youtube. Fair play 👏
@richardweatherald7745
@richardweatherald7745 11 месяцев назад
I agree with most of it not boring at all but making 4-5 cuts of silage and only wilting for 24 hours has the potential for clamp slippage, which I and many other producers have experienced
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
We actually had real issues with slippage in 2021, no issues since despite wet grass, I think the compactor has definitely reduced the risk. I'm also convinced side sheets make the problem much worse.
@ciaranconeely8579
@ciaranconeely8579 11 месяцев назад
Comment for the algorithm to help the channel 👍.
@charlotteashleyfarm
@charlotteashleyfarm 11 месяцев назад
Really enjoying your long form videos, found you on TikTok talking about the good old NFU 😂 really enjoying x x x
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Thank you very much! I had a nosy on your page earlier, I must watch a video of yours this evening!
@michaeloconnor9809
@michaeloconnor9809 27 дней назад
If silage is low Me would feeding some molasses with it make up the energy deficit?
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 26 дней назад
Back on track now, up 2l/cow
@patrickbuckley7832
@patrickbuckley7832 11 месяцев назад
Well done, are you cutting Italian ryegrass ? We were always told to cut in afternoon when the sugar levels are highest in the grass.
@brenttonks4249
@brenttonks4249 11 месяцев назад
This is true for most silage, sugar is the key to lactic acid production and faster PH crash.
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
I do cut some Italian. The difference in sugar % is actually quite small, so the idea is you accept less sugar and don't leave the grass down overnight.
@AidanOwens-ur1re
@AidanOwens-ur1re 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video, very generous of you to share top tips for making good silage
@roymclean4763
@roymclean4763 11 месяцев назад
If I drop NDF as low as yours then I'd be concerned for cow rumen health as I have no mixer wagon for straw inclusion in diet.
@CalvinElliott-zg4fz
@CalvinElliott-zg4fz 11 месяцев назад
That fella has no diet feeder and tic tok tried to sell him one with no success
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
I have to be cautious with the parlour nut I feed but we have no issues with rumen health tbh. A few cud balls at times but that's about it.
@toppers3394
@toppers3394 11 месяцев назад
Very informative, what about round bale silage?
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Its fine if thats what works for you. For me its slow and expensive.
@conor-breathnach
@conor-breathnach 11 месяцев назад
Interesting video. How do bales fit into all this then? Obviously with your set up it’s not a concern. But for a farmer without the kit and ability you have can they stack up to pit silage?
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Im sure they can, they are a very expensive way to make silage. 💰💰
@MarkHarkness
@MarkHarkness 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video ,how much nitrogen do u apply for each cut and what rates do u apply slurry at
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
From 130kg/ha of N down to 70kg/ha for fourth. Slurry is many light applications. ~5000g/ac
@andrewbaird3431
@andrewbaird3431 11 месяцев назад
Is that 5000 g/AC in total? We are 3500/ cut with 90 N both reduced for 4th cut
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
@@andrewbaird3431 wooooow, 5000gal/ha!! 2000/ac
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
My brains not working this morning. I meant 5000/ha. Which is 2000/ac
@marcjonah4210
@marcjonah4210 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely brilliant video, it makes me sit back and smile at the things I’m doing right, unfortunately there’s the same amount of winches when I see/hear the things I’m doing wrong. Very well done
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Thanks! I get lots wrong also.
@Johnny-ro5kq
@Johnny-ro5kq 10 месяцев назад
'promosm'
@LukeMurray-k6j
@LukeMurray-k6j 11 месяцев назад
Brilliant video as always, great to see someone going more in depth
@markredmond987
@markredmond987 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video.having your own kit really gives you a huge advantage..
@timmey40
@timmey40 5 месяцев назад
Excellent information..thank you for sharing... in a nutshell.. the" silage " is made in the pit..not with all the fancy machines in the field.
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 5 месяцев назад
Yes! Excellent summary!!! I'm stealing that!
@agoodbluewilldo8359
@agoodbluewilldo8359 11 месяцев назад
Great video Andrew. Can you justify paying a contractor €150 an acre to do four cuts? That is very expensive silage if that's the case. In this case would baling all silage be more economical
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
The cost to your contractor is per hour, if they don't charge per hour get a new contractor. 😅 it wouldn't make sense at that price per cut.
@paddyshiels3730
@paddyshiels3730 11 месяцев назад
Very good video you explained a lot about making silage and a lot of common sense and rolling your silage pit which you have explained that people don't do and is so important to do
@ciaranconeely8579
@ciaranconeely8579 11 месяцев назад
I just got an idea; you could make a weight out of concrete 6 tonne, 12 tonne for the tractor and use that with the train wheels if you wanted more weight.
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
We have a 1t weight block also, concrete isn't that heavy for its volume.
@ciaranconeely8579
@ciaranconeely8579 11 месяцев назад
@@FarmTheoryNI Fill a box with scrap steel for more weight for volume ??.
@geraldbeard856
@geraldbeard856 11 месяцев назад
Interesting.........I think though your comment that the weather doesn't play as big a part as people think is controversial........you say mow mid -day but it does make a difference how fast it drys depending what the weather is .......if its cloudy its not going to dry so fast if its hot and breezy it drys really fast and maybe 24hrs of wilt could well be too long likewise go to the other extreme (your 5th cut for example) when the ground was wet and no doubt there was going to be soil/mud in the silage i definately think the weather/ground conditions will have a negative effect on that silage. probably the conclusion to this is that it is easier said than done to make perfect silage and theres probably a bit of luck attached to it aswell also i think what the weather is doing when the grass is growing in the field makes a difference if its warm and sunny with the right amount of rain to keep it growing that makes better quality grass likewise if its wet all the time grass isn't such good quality or as you said in drought conditions theres not so much goodness in the grass
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Agree with everything so said. Caveats to everything just had to draw lines somewhere to try and make some useful points.
@eoghanhayes7699
@eoghanhayes7699 11 месяцев назад
Funny how much more positive the comments are on this, the tiktok keyboard warriors don’t have the attention span for this detail😂
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
I have notice this also!!
@andrewbaird3431
@andrewbaird3431 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video 👏👏 not convinced with the compactor on wetter silage (kind of turned it to soup which the other cuts slid off🙈) only time we have had a problem. 4 cuts all layered in for consistency
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
The trailed harvester and longer chop length helps a lot. Definitely an issue with an SP
@jeffwheeler7244
@jeffwheeler7244 11 месяцев назад
Excellent informative video, keep it up please. So if you get caught with rain half way through harvesting do you stop until the next day or is best to carry on.
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely carry on. DM is overrated imo.
@PatFitz-m3d
@PatFitz-m3d 11 месяцев назад
That was a very informative video. Very enjoyable love the sit down chat.look forward to your video. Ps. Tonight my wife two sons and daughter are in our sitting room looking at this video. Everyone is interested regards from wicklow
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Glad you liked it! I'm honestly amazed people watched it.
@kierandaly1414
@kierandaly1414 11 месяцев назад
if you like to try something new i seen one of owner grass customers put strow on top of first cut just when we put in the second cut on top iv herd of fellas putting it on the grown of the pit for first cut as well.
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Would help drainage for wet grass I imagine!?
@MarkIrwin-j2r
@MarkIrwin-j2r 11 месяцев назад
What kind of fertiliser do you put on the silage ground and how much do you put on per cut?
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Urea or CAN at 80-120kg/ha of N and 0:0:60 as required.
@callummcginn6184
@callummcginn6184 11 месяцев назад
Would u ever use silage safe net cover with only oxygen barrier and no black cover??? And no tyres😅
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Maybe? 😅 I don't like spending money, hence I'm still on tyres.
@toppers3394
@toppers3394 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video very interesting
@paulfinnan1984
@paulfinnan1984 11 месяцев назад
Wat date do u aim for first cut ?? Great videos. Top quaility stuff.
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
First week of may has been the norm the last few years.
@DavidORegan-n9x
@DavidORegan-n9x 6 месяцев назад
Excellent Video - Keep up the good work......
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 6 месяцев назад
Thanks, will do!
@ryancunningham9834
@ryancunningham9834 11 месяцев назад
Love all your videos good job,👍You’ve probably been asked this question before. Early June what would be the optimum mowing time with double moors to stop cutting and leave enough dry time? I’ve started at 10 am and stopped at 11 pm, sounds like we are losing quality after 5 pm?
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, mowing after 5 is a bad idea. I pay extortionate prices to get help mowing so it's done before 5. This year I had 3 sets of doubles at times, all mowing done by 4pm.
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Also thanks!!
@johnhynes3911
@johnhynes3911 11 месяцев назад
I learned alot there. I'm going to watch it again and take notes.
@SteveIllick
@SteveIllick 11 месяцев назад
Really good video. What species make up your swords.
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Early and intermediate heading ryegrasses. Try and get a 50/50 split of tetraploid and diploid.
@JohnSAgri
@JohnSAgri 11 месяцев назад
Have you ever had issues with 'cud balls'??
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
I do get cud balls, not really a big issue.
@rich7584
@rich7584 11 месяцев назад
Really enjoying your content. And great to have an in-depth perspective on things. I hire train wheels when they are available, so an incredible job, Do you grow any other crops? Wholcrop/ maize? Keep up the videos.
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Only grass silage, logic is that where I live its what grows best.
@rich7584
@rich7584 11 месяцев назад
How and what fibre do you add to the diet? Or is it all from a HDF nut in the parlour?
@rexwilson6934
@rexwilson6934 11 месяцев назад
What time are you happy to start mowing in the morning?
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
10am if there isn't a heavy due. Not saying that's a good idea, I have done it mind you.
@akaxl
@akaxl 11 месяцев назад
good video, I disagree v strongly on the testing for Nitrates
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Fair enough, I have never tested so just cant understand when people tell me they "cant cut" because their nitrates are to high.
@GJAgriProductions
@GJAgriProductions 11 месяцев назад
great video keep them coming👍
@jodymaley3674
@jodymaley3674 11 месяцев назад
Grass, the foundation of ruminate nutrition. I find such topics fascinating
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
My job is using the sun to make milk via grass and cows. 🤣
@DM-eq1fq
@DM-eq1fq 11 месяцев назад
Do you test your bales? Do you do anything different for them as opposed to clamp silage?
@brenttonks4249
@brenttonks4249 11 месяцев назад
The principles the same, timing cutting at the correct stage of growth is probably the most important thing for all silage. Dry matter content should be different for clamps as verses bales, usually bales are 10-15% dryer than clamp silage. Depending on the continent you live on will be a deciding factor as to the amount of film you apply to the bales. Here in Australia I apply 6 layers to ensure longer storage due to UV degradation of the film. Bales are usually the most expensive storage method in $ per ton but are way more convenient than a clamp if you are not using a mixer or smelling smaller quantities each day. We utilise silage and hay across the year on the properties I work on to optimise animal performance!
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Never test my bales, only do them for surplus paddocks really.
@DavidLawrence-i8x
@DavidLawrence-i8x 11 месяцев назад
Very interesting. Keep ‘em coming!
@davidporter9556
@davidporter9556 11 месяцев назад
I recon the more cuts the better. I try for 6. My reasons is u put in the pit what cows do best in the field. Well with in reason. I only cut 4 this years yield way down. Tryin to wait for dry never again. I really hav to up my pit game. It’s not rolled enough. But what bout add f. Wud it not bring the silage to a point wer u need no matter the condition. Same as propcorn in treatin barley.and I understand tbis way more that readin books
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Add-F was brilliant but it was so hard on machinery and required a large volume to be applied.
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
My logic of 4 is that I can get 12.1me silage and I am still remaining efficient as I'm lifting a significant crop. If you were set up for more cuts I can see it makes sense.
@davidporter9556
@davidporter9556 11 месяцев назад
@@FarmTheoryNI I am tryin to get add f nc. It’s ment to b non corrosive. Cudnt get it lastyear because can only get it from Calvin cave over the water and he wudnt send it over to my meal man but he bout a grain roller of him this year an stuff to put on tbe barley he grew so he might send it over this year. Grass and silage is eather the dearests thing on the farm r the cheapest depending on how u handle it
@akaxl
@akaxl 11 месяцев назад
how do you seal along the wall in your shed
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Gravel bags or just tryes, no side sheets
@cecilbates5423
@cecilbates5423 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video lad
@DM-eq1fq
@DM-eq1fq 11 месяцев назад
What name is he saying for the mower they had up until 2015?
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
I don't know what this means. 😅
@cecilbates5423
@cecilbates5423 11 месяцев назад
Auto-swather
@Luke-qb8em
@Luke-qb8em 11 месяцев назад
Wait so is nitrogen a good thing being high?
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Its not, its just not a good reason to not lift your silage if you otherwise would.
@mikeysky8917
@mikeysky8917 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video. For us side sheets are important for our outdoor pits to prevent rain water and wind from getting in. A lot of waste without them. Weight is also important. We found sand bags were not heavy enough and went back to the tyres.
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Interesting, we use a few sand bags, my dad hates them. 😅
@rich7584
@rich7584 11 месяцев назад
I’m not a great mean of gravel bags, just purchased kitty sidewall for £1 each which are very good.
@danmurphy6541
@danmurphy6541 11 месяцев назад
Great stuff thanks
@willholliday3537
@willholliday3537 11 месяцев назад
What software have you used to compile this data? Or just excel?
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
It's my own custom software. Python using matplotlib. You can actually click the dots to show the silage sample.
@willholliday3537
@willholliday3537 11 месяцев назад
@FarmTheoryNI pretty sophisticated! I absolutely love data and finding ways to use it. But compiling it.. I'm a loose cannon 😂 wish we had that history on our farm.
@padraigking5185
@padraigking5185 11 месяцев назад
Good stuff
@hitachilad
@hitachilad 11 месяцев назад
Great video. Whats your thoughts on older style direct cut silage like the double and single chop for small acreage.
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
It worked in the past, Ad-F would work really nicely in that setup
@paulfinnan1984
@paulfinnan1984 11 месяцев назад
Very good video
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@ciaranconeely8579
@ciaranconeely8579 11 месяцев назад
I think this is excellent content.
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Thank you!! I was so unsure. 😅
@TheFarmerTheCheesemaker
@TheFarmerTheCheesemaker 11 месяцев назад
Great video! Not boring in the least. We’re too small for silage. But realize in a wet year like this has been for us we have to switch from making dry hay to at very least making baleage. One thing that has kept us from ensiling forage has been the issue with butyric acid development. All our milk goes into cheese. Improperly ensiled forage passes butyric acid into the milk and that goes into the Cheese causing Aged cheeses to blow up and burst add they ripen. There are food additives you can add to the milk to prevent this, but they’re expensive and have to be listed on the label as they’re regulated. Have you had trouble with any spoilage or butyric acid-smells like vomit in the silage- since you started using the silage additive? At the moment we’re buying our bales in and their quality is variable. We’re hoping to switch to making our own and get a proper silage baler with chopper knives. The cows really don’t do well on full stem baleage and I think it makes poor quality feed. New to the channel…do you make bales as well?
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Don't make bales. You won't have any issues with butyric acid if you ensile the grass properly. I must add the link to the research, I forgot earlier.
@pjdee5879
@pjdee5879 11 месяцев назад
Very good explanations. Silage has always been a black art to most farmers.
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Thanks! It's a really complex topic tbh.
@spuds209
@spuds209 11 месяцев назад
What the average litres that your silage produces after maintenance?
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
Approx 3000l MFF, we don't get more than m+12. At the moment we are m+6
@fisherh9111
@fisherh9111 11 месяцев назад
Brilliant summary. That research paper looks good too. Do you have any thoughts on wrapped/baled silage?
@FarmTheoryNI
@FarmTheoryNI 11 месяцев назад
It's expensive and slow. 🤣
@DM-eq1fq
@DM-eq1fq 11 месяцев назад
@@FarmTheoryNI you'll have to do an addendum for us with bales!
@paddyshiels3730
@paddyshiels3730 11 месяцев назад
You are doing a good job of the videos which people will learn a lot keep up the good work good man
@ericdineen4842
@ericdineen4842 11 месяцев назад
You are very interesting
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