How to Make PRESETS : Boss VE 20 Vocal Performer 

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I completely agree. Thanks for your input. There's definitely enough room for a 12 song set if a person wanted 12 different me Sig's for a live show.

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The instructions are difficult to navigate and hitting thr wrong button once may erase your New preset. Glad this helped.

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Cool new channel. Yes in an actual live setting effects can be too much sometimes.

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That's a very good point. Some effects sound good when isolated on a single track. Meanwhile they are too small or large when worked into a final mix. Always good to compare and contrast!

@@newcastlemusicstudios Its really different strokes for different people. Recording and mastering tracks I believe it's personal taste and choice. I think some tracks are overmastered - I'm not a professional audio engineer. With The Bose VE 20 Pedal - it does have the capacity for Stereo Output. A music store questioned why I wanted Y Cabling for recording. Their perspective was it would sound terrible and that it would only record in Mono anyway no matter what configurations I used. That's an opinion. I like to experiment with sounds, special effects, layering and develop pieces. With the person I collaborate with - sometimes we reverse engineer recordings and other times we change compressors and equalizers. We both have Ëquipment Acquiremént Syndrome''. At the moment we are more Spoken Word and putting Evocative Tracks behind them with fairly good results. And because they are Spoken Word pieces it made more to me to buy the Boss VE 20 with its inbuilt effect because it will help our music and with Solo performances say Busking its great tool to have in my armory as a point of difference for what other people are doing. FOMO lol !

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Sure yah sometime whenever. I honestly think the TC Helicon Voicelive Play sounds better. The effects are more pronounced the stomp function is easier to use.

@@newcastlemusicstudios Thanks for this tip - I will look into this one now - Once I've chosen I'll hit you up as I'll love a lesson with you to work it out since I am useless lol

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I made another video for that called "BOSS VE20 REVIEW AND TEST". I'm not good at singing but n that video you will get an idea of what I mean

When you go into the MENU and find MIC SENSE... anything over 50 seems to pickup Excessive background noise in the room.. so kind of... When I did a setup the other day, with an sm58/bossve20 to floor monitor....acoustic guitar to amp.. I couldn't seem to hear the harmony.. I couldn't tell if the room reverb was Dull and muddying up the sound.. it drove me insane... I then discovered.. SHutting off All REVERB effect on the Boss VE20 will reduce that muddy sound. So.. Mic Sense Adjust/ turn off reverb. ALso make sure pitch correct if in use is set to say.. Gmajor for a song in Gmajor.. but a guitar is usually slightly off key so if it picks that up it could create a warbling/bending of the NOte/Chord sound.. kind of like a bad autone.. so maybe turn off pitch correction.. Delay seeem to have no effect/ Dynamics also seemed to not affect the Harmony between my voice and teh guitar. But like that Forum said.. checking your FX chain is super important. I can experiment with it again later tonight n see if I notice anything else.

@@newcastlemusicstudios Thanks for your quick reply. I actually played around with this today and I did adjust the MIC SENS and found that made a difference. I reduced the reverb as well. The difference those two adjustments made were enough to make the unwanted bleed effect at least bearable (quite minimal). I'll experiment more on this as well. I'm sure glad I found your video. I knew there had to be a way to make adjustments. I just didn't know how to go about it before now. Cheers

@@sonofagun66 Glad the video Helped, Best of Luck!!

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@@newcastlemusicstudios I didn't intend to sound harsh, or mean. I was just pointing out something that would help in making future videos. Thank You!

I would say 50 and slowly go up. 5p is usually ideal for a condenser microphone but for a dynamic microphone closer to 75.... Depending on the mic model.

I'll have to look and see if that is even possible. I understand the question. It would save a a lot of time to copy n adjust.

@@newcastlemusicstudios looking forward to this as well

Yes it is. You can literally turn on every effect possible to the max. The effect maybe overwhelming unless turned to a lower setting.

@@newcastlemusicstudios Thank you so much 😃

I'd have to look at it again.

Hello my friend, ve-20 has this possibility ... I will see if I can explain to you how to do this, ok ..... when you are in the DOUBLE / HARMONY function ... and choose which voice to put .. in the case of the Tuesday below ... just turn the button counterclockwise and go to -6th which would be the 3rd low ..... the 5th low is the -4th ...... all this because VE-20 starts counting from UNISON and upwards would be normal counting ... and downwards there is this inversion ... It is difficult to explain here but just remember that ..... -4th = 5th low ..... -6th = 3rd low .... I hope I helped and I'm sorry for the translation ... I did it through the google translator. I'm from Brazil and here we speak Portuguese.

@@JFGPass Hello Joseph and thank you very much for your reply. I see the answer now and it is working very well! I understand the theory as you mentioned, and understanding how to work the modes makes this pedal very useful. The only improvement I can think of is to have a hard drive backup utility as in my Boss DR-880 rhythm unit.

@@gavincahill-1142 I am happy to have helped in some way .... What I would like this pedal to be would be to turn on the guitar so that he can read the tone of the songs just like the boss ve-2 does ... other than that for me he is perfect! .. it is very complete!

I get what you are saying. Perhaps... Not 100% sure. Obviously you can click the effects on n off but just clicking off n on the radio effect... Ill have to go n check that out n get back to you

@@newcastlemusicstudios its okay I have one so I can trial it just thought u might know of the top of your head

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Everything except the chorus it is actually a Harmony, you can adjust the harmony setting also and engage and disengage the harmony.

Yes you can. When you customize your effect like he showed in the video (thanks for that, btw, good video!) you can engage or disengage any of the effects you scroll through in the menu. Like you go to reverb, adjust that the way you want it, then go on to distortion, adjust that, go to delay, adjust that etc. and they should stack up into one delay/distortion/reverb kinda effect that you can then safe to that slot. In the video he turned all those effects off again after showing each one because otherwise the video would have been pretty unbearable to listen to but if he had left them on, they would all be engaged at the same time. You don't have to pick only one per slot.

@@PhilZeGerman Thanks that also cleared up some of my confusion

I agree. After you learn to program the preset. Just as a memory exercise, I'd make a new preset 1 or 2 times a week to until it becomes easy.

Yes you csn change any FX USING MENU even while singing. I would suggest making 2 presets for each song. And use the pedal for going back n forth.

I understand. However, I don't think so. The bank is large enough that you could possibly make 3 Lists of Presets in different order.. obviously that is a pain in the *ss! Regardless I'll take a look and tinker with it to see if that is a possibility. And get back to you if there is a way to shift the Order.

@@newcastlemusicstudios Many thanks!

@@stephenlennartz3466 yes its possible to do

@@stephenlennartz3466 its called EXCHANGE... MEANING EXCHANGE one Preset with another. Click MENU USE KNOB SCROLL DOWN TO :MENU WRITE THen click the Arrow Button on the Right Side. Then use the knob to adjust preset placing i.e. 67 to 60. Now this is the tricky part HOLD BOTH PEDALS DOWN Simultaneously then it should say : Completed... Be aware this clones that preset and moves it. It will not actually switch places.. Thusly 67 Preset is copied to 60 Preset... You can then repeat the proccess and move something into the place of 67. To be the most effective.. Since there are 80 Preset Slots.. Start at say 40-50 then copy those presets in your prefered Order for Setlist to say 51-61 etc. Best of luck.. If u cant get it i could throw up a video.

1 Hard rock, 3 ballad, 7 echo 22 3rd+th high I prefer to modify them n make my own. I like reverb, echo n delay for voice. Chorus to make it sound bigger n thicker I use 22. Or some harmony effects.

No, even on a larger 6i6 interface where u can split incoming tracks from inputs, you cannot split the signal from the actual box. My best suggest is record it 2 times. Tracck 1 Record the Main Vocal. CREATE a 2nd track and record the harmony... It will actually sound better anyway. If you like harmonies and chorus FX you will eventually see recording multiple tracks maybe 4-6 tracks to create a real harmony or chorus then add a harmony fx track to create a huge shiny layer.

Thanks a bit of a basic question but how does one only record the harmony . Do I need to pan it to ensure only harmony goes thru the 2nd track in the DAW ?@@newcastlemusicstudios On a separate note I am guessing then in a live setting its just one volume control on the mix for both main vocals and harmony ?

Could you please help to explain how does one record only the harmony . I currently used the mono set set up and the left wet always sends both harmony and lead to the track. Sorry maybe this is a basic question but would really appreciate inputs . Thanks

lol thanks! haha I struggle singing, but it's fun!

@@newcastlemusicstudios I meant Animal

If i remember right you push the middle button down so you can use the pedal to go up and down for presets. If you onky want chorus /on/off is the pedal without turning the knob.

@@newcastlemusicstudios No, I mean the chorus of the song, not the chorus effect. Let’s suppose I only want my preset on during a single part of the song…

@@RenataServato you just need to push the right pedal dude

@@diegoarenaza5370 you can dial the master up 1st. The mic sense can get distorted easily. If you have a guy on a mixer or console. Tell him to check his mixer Gain on the channel of the mic. It is loud enough with a dynamic microphone. Unless ypur dynamic mic is really cheap. Most people use a shure sm58 or a budget friendly Behringer dynamic ba85A

I would do both. See how it sounds in the Live Mix versus recording on DAW. For example, you may not need as mich reverb or delay etc. In a LIVE mix do to room acoustics. Also consider your Practice jam room may have more cho or reverb than an open stage in a bar. So FX can often be turned down so you dont get too much feedback.

@@newcastlemusicstudios thank you for answering. When I play live I always tell the PA guy to turn the EFX knob all the way down as I prefer to control reverb myself (I use reverb only). Same when we rehearse: no EFX from the mixer. As for the mic, I have a Sennheiser e845s. What about the Boss ve20 overall Master level VS. the preset level (considering the PA mic channel level and the PA Master level)? Thank you for your time ☺️

You'll need an amp. This pedal works just fine with my Roland Street Cube.

You can feed it into a Laptop via USB Interface with a stand xlr or 1/4 inch cable. If you are singing through it you would want to use a small mixer to route one output to your interface and route the other output to a larger mixer so you can record it and hear it Live. I have used it live, it was ok. Depends on your PA setup. One large complaint is it creates kind of a "warbly" feedback when used live in some settings. I was previously asked how to remedy this warble and I suggested do not use the Reverb in a Live setting because when combined with the actual room Reverb.. it is too much and sounds poor. Basically you will need to slowly tweak it within the room you are performing so it sounds best.. that will differ from bar to basement to house or amphitheater etc. But yes it can definitely be used live. If you need help with the Live /mixer setup I could make a video, if your goal is to record the vocal performance live.

@@newcastlemusicstudios my ideal goal was to use in at a live gig for harmonies but also to record at home.. through my laptop / virtual DJ if possible as a lot of my tracks are in higher or lower keys.. really would appreciate if it’s worth me going all out for example the ve boss 500? Could you do a video of you using the usb? Also I have a small Yamaha mixer which is decent and my speakers are pretty good too 600 quid , so my equipment is decent I just really wanted to know if you’d suggest getting a vocal processer for my live shows or if I’d be wasting my money as I don’t play gutair or piano! Thanks for replying I really appreciate it

I don't know much about the Boss 500 except to costs like $500, lol. If you want just Harmonies, there are cheaper options, like pedals that only have Harmony Effects. Some people feel the Harmonies sound somewhat artificial or electronically over processed and some people like that... So it is a matter of taste. Helps to have a decent singing voice.. I will definitely make a Video of how I would do that Setup and post the Link Below on this thread tonight or tomorrow when I get a chance. There is also the TC Helicon Voicelive Play Pedal. I did a review on that and own it. It has quadruple the Vocal Processor effects like multiple Harmony Setting vs. just layered Harmonies and robotic effect like the beastie boys used n a few songs as well as multiple Autotune settings. It is definitely my favorite pedal. Priced about the same as the Boss VE20.

@@newcastlemusicstudios Thanks I appreciated your reply. That’s the main Issue I have that it won’t sound legit, I was hoping the more I pay the cleaner the harmony will sound, If you have recommendations please let me know, or if you do another video on strictly harmonies I’ll definitely be watching . Cheers

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Under the vocal Harmony Settings you can combine different octaves of harmonies for a similar effect. Not saying it is necessarily exact. The TC Helicon voicelive play is more diverse in its abilities to program Layered Vocal Harmonies+chorus and other effects.... The Boss Ve20 is somewhat basic in that regard.

@@newcastlemusicstudios wow, thanks for the quick response! I'll take a look at it

You can only go up n Down on presets with the pedal or turn on Harmony or turn it off, it'd make more sense to make 2 similar presets with 1 effect difference to go back n forth from.

Its strange n a way with 2 possible functions via pedal or knob. You can ue the pedal to turn on or off the preset, or the harmony. You can also just use the pedal to engage a hrmony efftect.. say when u sing. Chorus etc. But you must choose it one way or the other temproarily while in use. The best move is to use the pedal for all. Have 2 cloned presets next to each other .. but 1 has harmony or pitch correction and the other does not. Or 3 or 4. Hard to use the knob if it is on the floor, so thats why the stepping foot method is better. I think the bypass is stepping on both pedals at the same time, then 1 step to go back on to the preset. The pitch correct has keys major and minor, it also has a chromatic funtion which i think jist moves u to the closest note you are singing. The type is soft, hard, electric, robot. I am not sure if u can adjust those. Because i think the idea is "soft" is unoticeable and hard u caN only hear if u screw up.. robot and electrix are quite obvious. It also has Octave and gender underneath the adjustment on potch correction.

@@newcastlemusicstudios Thank you.

Wrie Function? I thought towards the end of the video. I may update n make a condensed form of the video. But my channel isnt getting many views

@@newcastlemusicstudios the almighty algorithm favours consistent uploads. also youtube should be something you do for fun, you obviously dont have to do it if it doesnt bring you any joy. but i personally really appreciate the videos you did on the boss ve-20, they made it so much easier to get started with using the pedal!

Yes, you can adjust the preset in the MENU so it is not so harsh.

The Scale is used specifically in Pitch Correction. When you into pitch correction turn it "on". Then go down to the Notes Scale. You can choose major or minor or Chromatic. The chromatic will adjust your singing to the closest note. If you choose Amaj or Am (a minor) when you sing the pitch correction will move your singing to the closest note in the Scale of A major A Minor or whichever Scale you choose. There is also soft, hard, electric etc. These categories signify how "much" pitch correction is used. Soft is the most unnoticeable.... Whereas Electric sounds more like Auto tune or very robotic.

The only options are 48V for Condenser Microphone or no 48V Dynamic Mics like the Shure SM57. You can change the mic sense up or down which just makes the microphone Louder or quieter. Otherwise everything is the same regardless of what microphone you have.... as far as using the Menu to change, dynamics, reverb, delay, pitch octave etc.