How To Make Psytrance Kick: “Synthesis and Processing” by E-Clip 

Same over here^^

Just go for "glue" compresor on K and B group. I like to put thre -12db Ratio 2 Attack 80-100ms Realise 15-30ms Makeup or gain 2-3db This is only for punch cuz its My style and vision of kick and bass in psytrance. But you can add a new eq or whatever.

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@@EClipChannel I don’t have enough of them, what you share as an insight. I’ve been looking for this for a long time and I don’t want to use samples, but to understand the principle itself, thanks!

@@majesticradio.online Use the samples, trust me, 90% of the scene is using samples, as making the music is not the same as sound designer. It is OK to use samples, as making samples is really hard, and I think that you shall be learning to make them, but until you learn how to do it and to be 100% good quality, just use samples and enjoy being creative. Sound design is extremely complicated sport!

@@EClipChannel Does the fundamental frequency of the Kick have to match the Bass or should they be on a different octave to avoid conflicts? If kick is lower then bass is higher and vice versa.

@@majesticradio.online Tuning Kick Theory: In the past, I did tuning my kicks, but i stopped with that. In making music, there are so many theories that 'needs to be done'. Someone told you this, and someone told you that. My advice is to try all of them, but trust in your ears. Electronic Dance Music is quite new, and the quality of it is improving every day, so I believe that all theories shell be questioned again, as Electronic Dance Music is braking all of them. First is a dynamic, theories were written by the people who worked in totally different music scenes (ex: Bob Katz). So kick is the Impulse of pitch wave ( Sine Wave in most cases) fro 20000Hz down to 35Hz in some cases, which means that it has all the tones in 200ms (can be longer or shorter, but I'll take 200ms as avrenge). So the question is how we can tune something that covers all the frequency range? Well, we could try to pitch the tale of it, which has pitch down as well. So my theory is that we can not tune it. We can pitch it a bit so it can respond with bass better. But there are many other techniques to do the same. To me, it would be the last technique to try, as the process could be infinite! Where and When to stop pitching it around? What is the best pitch position for it? In Sound Desing, it is excellent to limit some processes in another way, the process is infinite, and there is a pretty good chance to destroy it more than do it properly. I would suggest, chose or make different kicks and try them for each note of the bass. So you are going to learn which kick is good for which bass note. Example: Track is in E, make a bass, and try different kicks, tweak the phase, and a little bit of EQ. If it doesn't work, look for another kick. It will save you tones of time. I was stubborn and wanted to be able to fix every kick for each bass notes, and it took me at least 5-6 years, and as a result, I got extensive knowledge about sound design, but I ignored my creativity and made much less music than I could. So the question actually is, Do you want to be a Sound Designer, or you want to write a music? Both of them together is pretty hard!

There are so many processes to make align Kick&Bass, I never try to adjust the kick to the bass, I prefer to design kick to sound as I want and do other processes to align bass on that kick. I know what are you trying to say, but that process limits me and telling already how my tail of the kick will be, which I chose not to apply. But this is just a way of showing how I do it, and of course, if some other processes are better for you then you should apply them. It is just a matter of choice.

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These kicks and basses are done from 1 guy, 1 that do almost for half of the scene, all the mixing. But he is pretty expensive

@@EClipChannel so the rumours are true :D thats funny, great tutorial again ! thanks !

@@EClipChannel Like for real? I heard of this kind of thing but didnt really think that its that common... But youre not talking about mindspin right? So ill be probably not be able to recreate this type of bassline? :( Ive really tried so much and got really great results for sure, but not exactly what i wanted.

@@MultiSarius you could, but you would need ES1 from Logic. As those basses are from that VSTi. I won't be mentioning any names!

@@EClipChannel Im sorry for asking, totally understandable! Well ill look into that, these basses are my mission since i started pretty much. im stoked for more tutorials, its very kind of you that you provide your knowledge to us! Thank you!

I don't think that's possible in Logic, I am not sure, but I think that it is not possible. You could fix the envelope with any envelope plugin such as Volume Shaper, Lfo Tool.

Wtf brick wall?????????? Bruh wtf like why? Go for 36db is the high point after that ur kick is losing energy omg... But okay uh. So just go for 36-48db than linear phase - max if u using Q 3 or 2 and than freeze and flatten to avoid 1.5k ms lag.. Why linear phase? This is solution for phase cancel's. Its make no phase change but very hungry feature for pc hardware.

You misunderstood me. Not a brickwall eq curve, but having equal levels at 50-100Hz.

Benefit is just that is already there and it’s fastest way to fix something quickly.

Just copy what he did on the screen. don't be lazy ;)

Yes, I feel you 100%. When I record a tutorial and bring it home for the final check, I also can't hear a lot of things that I hear on Sm9 in the studio.

As I said in the video, I don't use Volume in LFO TOOL, I did filtering. Crossfade is reducing the volume, and with LFO tool I remove high frequencies from the second part of the kick! Like the Filter Envelope!

@@EClipChannel Thanks for your quick response! 👍

That is right, but Neutron takes to much CPU. And i think it is linear phase, as it is a bit heavy!

@@EClipChannel Yes, it takes quite a bit of CPU... but then bounce it and the CPU is free. Fellow Ableton user trying to help out ;)

Thanks for the recommendation!

Trans-X , plugin fron Waves. But instead you can use Melda Production Transient MB

@@EClipChannel Okay as I suspected, thanks for clarifying. Are they comparable to shaperbox by cableguys?

@@dreamaera nope, those plugins you mention are volume envelope plugins, while EnvelopeShaper is multiband transient designer. They have similar names but they do totally different things. Ones you mentioned are doing “volume sidechaning” while Melada Transient MB and MuktibandEnvelopeShaper are for the transients.

@@EClipChannel Ok cool, thanks again for clarifying, I'll start learning more about transient shapers :)

I don't agree. Quadrafuzz is ok but it's not essential, EnvelopeMultiband you can replace with Melda Transient Multiband. Quadrafuzz you can replace with Vitamin Multi from Waves, these are not the same, but it doesn't need to be the same, as you get similar results

@@EClipChannel Thank you. I have everything you use except for the Melda. I’ll get their bundle. I loved your music from the beginning. When I moved to another country to start a new life, I listened to Shuma in the car. Now I see you are not only an amazing artist but an excellent teacher as well. You make the world a better place.

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I didn’t understand the question? What is the problem?

@@EClipChannel Listening on my headphones I noticed the end of the tail doesn't fade out smoothly, I has to do with Kick 2 and the second last point in the Amplitude envelope. I had the same issue in a kick I made. Move the second last point somewhat back and notice the difference at the very end of the sound. And thanks for the tutorials, much appreciated!

@@xgmode yup, it that happens a lot in Kick2, i always bounce the kick form Kick2 to Wav, and than just apply a small fadeout, and that’s all.

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