Fantastic tutorial! Thanks so much. Love the combination of both. And thanks for the Kate Bush tutorial, I couldn't seem to comment there but particularly loved that choice of song!
Jesus! You are a musical genius! It is so amazing - and you made the 100% original sounds. Wooooooow. By the way, -it's interesting. I heard this music for the first time when I was 16. At night, Blade Runner was playing on the PRO7 channel - and I was just sleeping with headphones on. I woke up to the "Love Theme" music, and it was so wonderful that I was completely under its influence. Then I heard this music "Blues". That's how I got to know the film, i hadn't heard of it before. After that I had to get these songs. I also used this music to fall asleep - you can really get lost in thoughts if someone listens to this! Very nice work! Bravo!
Thank you! Vangelis is the biggest musical genius here, but Lucas is a close second! :D Great to hear your thoughts; Lucas is a huge Blade Runner fan and will enjoy your comment for sure. Thanks for sharing!
Somehow I missed this tutorial. God tier level homage. I too have this album on repeat since ages. I think this is one of your best Lucas, but I am biased :) Cheers to all the team but especially to you and Nuno.
Nice work. I have noticed two things though. First, the main/lead sound - yes, it was done on CS80 which not only has this unique exponential curves in envelope stages, it is probably one of the most expressive electronic instruments ever, with poly aftertouch, slider etc. Vangelis used this extensively on this track. What I have noticed is that after the attack phase, aftertouch modulation 1.initiates pwm and 2.holds filter envelope, which rapidly falls as soon as the key is released - you can clearly hear the sound being "cut" in a way near the end of each note. Also, both your patches use extremely high resonance - this would be a nightmare to mix. The pad on this track is Roland v330 in string mode, so it surely did not have this kind of resonance or any kind of key tracking. What you hear there is tons of chorus Vangelis drenched this pad into, probably double tracked it and caused that rhythmical periodic drift that sounds like resonance sweep, but in fact, is beating of the two doubled pad tracks, with a lots of slow chorus. i mean, these are just my observations not the critique - great work:)
Great analysis of this very complex sound. I recently did a cover of this and spent some time trying to figure out if CS-80 curves are exponential- specifically the attack. How did you conclude that it is and do you think it is exponential for the attack of both the filter and amp Envelope Generators?
@@TaurusTarkus i have re-created this patch many times on multiple synths. Prophet 10, Deckart’s Dream, Super 6, even modular stuff. All these have slightly different envelopes. I also quite often apply recursive modulation to envelopes that are too flat (method of modulating envelope attack or decay with another envelope, which can then turn flat envelope shape into exponential or logarithmic, depending if the modulation applied is positive or negative). Purely by ear and comparison, plus my deep interest in synths for decades now (almost 30 years in music production). I have to add smt else actually - the root of this sound is quality of two saw oscillators with very little detune. Lots of drift, you get a mess, but a few cents, you get that floating sound. Also, patch sounds different if you have sharkfin saw vs classic saw, which is another trait of CS 80. I am making a video on all the sounds used in BR soundtrack on a few synths, should be out soon.
I'm looking forward to your video! I recently did a cover of Blade Runner Blues and a second one discussing the sounds... mostly the lead sound. I'd love to hear what you think. I'd also love to hear what you think of my Blade Runner Brass sound, which you can hear on my cover of Tears in Rain and the making of video called Sounds of Blade Runner. It's not there yet and perhaps will never be... But I definitely was playing around with attack curves in my attempts to get it. At one point, I thought the attack was an exponential and then decided that it was logarithmic like most other synthesizers. Please point me to any resources that can give us a clue about the curves of the CS-80 and its predecessor the GX-1. I can only do recursive modulation with my Prophet Rev2, but my Hydrasynth really allows us to shape the curves. Thanks, and again, I look forward to your video.
@@TaurusTarkus Yeah I have both Rev 2 and Hydra desktop. Although Hydra envelopes are digital (which is no issue), they are so awesome as you can adjust the expoential/log curve with a twist of the knob - that is how all modern synths should behave. I will go check your video now :)
Great tutorial! I wish I had found this several month ago when I was struggling to get the lead sound for a cover of this. (I recently did a video about the sounds as well.) I notice that you get the patch a pretty different way. In particular, you really use the EQ to get a lot of the character that many people miss when trying to program this sound.
I have always thought that the "double attack " of the lead sound was done with delays or enevelopes and not by hitting the same note twice which is what I guess you do....?
