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How to operate a straight key

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@WhatNow4140
@WhatNow4140 13 лет назад
I'm learning CW on a 1903 British Postal [straight] key. Ever since I've used his technique my error rate dropped to zero! He shows you starting at 2:15. It really works. Now I'm picking it up at a much faster pace! I'm learning from this man just watching him. He is a Master! When I get good at CW I'll buy a GHD. Right now I couldn't do it justice. Great video.
@n9eerptr
@n9eerptr Год назад
Your error rate decreased because you practiced as would be for any method.
@meekhinglim4829
@meekhinglim4829 4 года назад
I was a trained navy radio operator during the 80s when I served with Malaysian Royal Navy
@Jabeanboy
@Jabeanboy 4 года назад
Mee Khing Lim ok?
@Jabeanboy
@Jabeanboy 4 года назад
What’re you trying to say/mean?
@meekhinglim4829
@meekhinglim4829 4 года назад
@@Jabeanboy it reminded me of my days as a radio operator working in the navy and later on I was transferred to the wireless communication school as an instructor teaching tactical communication
@Jabeanboy
@Jabeanboy 4 года назад
Mee Khing Lim ohhhh ok sorry
@magrum21
@magrum21 13 лет назад
Good information. Thank you for putting this video together. I'm new to CW, and using a Navy Flameproof straight key.
@readmedottext
@readmedottext 13 лет назад
Fascinatting technique. I wish I had learned that way on my old j38. It wouldn't help me much with my homebrew doorstop-spring key now. Great to see someone who really knows how to pound brass.
@MrSteelbeast
@MrSteelbeast 4 года назад
Nokia message ascending tone is a morse code for CONNECTING PEOPLE.
@b.vanc.3285
@b.vanc.3285 8 лет назад
I like this pure and manual morse method. It´s pure control and close to thinking.
@eugengrzondziel1706
@eugengrzondziel1706 9 лет назад
I´m very impressed! Straight japanese Perfection: informative, compact and very helpfull. Domo arigato and 73!
@petrgrygar2191
@petrgrygar2191 7 лет назад
Opět jsem tu abych viděl a slyšel tu nádheru! Jsem doslova unešen tímto senzačním zařízením na nácvik telegrafie! Mít tu možnost a prachy, bez váhání bych to bral!! Japonci jsou na elektroniku fakt geniální, to se jim nedá upřít. Skvělá technika, hodná 21.století!!! CONGRATS, VY 73!!
@petrgrygar2191
@petrgrygar2191 7 лет назад
Perfektní, opravdu vymakaný zařízení k nácviku telegrafie!! Dokonce i s poloautomatem. Vybavení opravdu na úrovni 21.století!!
@janetwinslow2039
@janetwinslow2039 5 лет назад
If you're using a straight key with a lovely raised knob like that one, it's much easier to use if you bring it to the front of the bench and position it directly in front of your right (or left) arm/hand.
@WPF465B
@WPF465B Год назад
Thank you, excellent instruction.
@nasidoori
@nasidoori 14 лет назад
電鍵の種類が、たいへん分りやすいです。 高校生だった40余年前に戻ってしまいそうです。 年金もらえたら買って遊びたい。
@eogg25
@eogg25 8 лет назад
nice demo, like the demo for the cootie key, i'll have to make one and try it.
@eogg25
@eogg25 14 лет назад
good instruction, i dont have my forearm resting on the table either. i use a j45 leg key and have used cw for 40 years and still dont have carpal tunnel, u don't need to send more than 18 wpm but it can be easily done with a straight key and the majority of people i hear using bugs send lousy cw.
@toobroke2fight
@toobroke2fight 15 лет назад
This man is very good! Very Good! nice fist!
@ezengondolkozom3700
@ezengondolkozom3700 6 лет назад
This is the jam
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 12 лет назад
_not_ having the ellbow rested, has its limits during long QTCs. (i speak from navy experience) However, his wrist technique is perfect and can be applied with resting ellbow as well as with floating ellbow... he is a good teacher.
@RicktheRecorder
@RicktheRecorder Год назад
You can only use the lazy arm method if you have a low-profile key, which most outside the USA are not.
@arizonabobusa
@arizonabobusa 15 лет назад
This is a great instructional video for CW ops , and the man here is a master . You can tell he's been pounding brass for a lot of years . GHD sure do make beautiful keys !
@n9eerptr
@n9eerptr 3 года назад
In the video how the key is keyed and is totally wrong, one places their arm on the table with the wrist doing to the work, not the arm. Doing as in the video one will develop pain in the arm after long sending periods.
@PaulTaylor1
@PaulTaylor1 Год назад
@@n9eerptr most people believe the opposite. Forearm and fingertips, no rapid flexing of the wrist as it's not built for it and you'll develop an injury.
@n9eerptr
@n9eerptr Год назад
@@PaulTaylor1 No most do not believe the opposite. Professionals do it with arm on the table. And the master for learning and sending the code, William G Pierpont, N0HFF (SK) who wrote The Art & Skill of Radio-Telegraphy and taught the military how to learn and send code for years teaches a totally different method. Also in the video the code being sent is lousy, timing is way off. It is also slow, try sending at 20wpm for 10 minutes with this method. And one adjust the key for ones good feel, not with paper and a weight. Different speeds require different adjustments.
@RicktheRecorder
@RicktheRecorder Год назад
@@n9eerptr I guess that you are probably American. Most operators elsewhere use the wrist and whole arm.
@RicktheRecorder
@RicktheRecorder Год назад
@@n9eerptr And at Portishead Radio, in its day the largest marine radio station in the world, all its operators used the floating arm method, as do most Europeans and Asians.
@johnkemas7344
@johnkemas7344 2 года назад
Great CW op! He knows his stuff for sure. Love the beat, I;'' give it a 10, but I'd only rate it at a 5 to dance to!!
@widgeteye
@widgeteye 14 лет назад
WOW! Absolutely excellent fist! This guy is good. N5LLW
@sv2clj
@sv2clj 13 лет назад
Excellent Job! thanks de Thomas SV2CLJ
@wheedler
@wheedler 8 лет назад
Zoolkhan hasn't commented lately on resting the elbow. I'm looking forward to his return!
@oh1fjv
@oh1fjv 15 лет назад
Which software is used in the video?
@starinthe
@starinthe 10 лет назад
Software's name? Im gonna learn CW i would use that software to fix my timing! :-)
@RESULT_OF_A_BROKEN_CONDOM
@RESULT_OF_A_BROKEN_CONDOM 4 года назад
12 Years later: U should know how to use morse code device
@xuzx007
@xuzx007 13 лет назад
great video for beginner, but i want know, what is the software at the time 5:00, who can tell me, thx
@claudem.p.7969
@claudem.p.7969 4 года назад
very good
@9w2pju
@9w2pju 13 лет назад
yes, what is the software please ?
@ThewhiteStarline100
@ThewhiteStarline100 11 лет назад
hi tere people i bougth one of these and took it to my friend and he lives like 16 milles from me and it works
@UpcomingJedi
@UpcomingJedi 12 лет назад
Does anyone know what software is he using?
@bingyao
@bingyao 14 лет назад
Where can I get the software?
@SkyWire88
@SkyWire88 Год назад
I would LIKE to see this video presented by an English speaking operator.
@Sams911
@Sams911 15 лет назад
His technique may not be the best for some, but I can tell you this much.. he makes the absolute best straight key on the planet... the GHD GT501MIL..
@RicktheRecorder
@RicktheRecorder Год назад
Doesn't it seem unlikely that someone who makes the nicest keys in the world would have a poor technique?
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 10 лет назад
another video on how professionals operate a straight key, with subtitles: /watch?v=x6ggckXtZjs
@Nw7usUs
@Nw7usUs 14 лет назад
Very good video instruction. Thank you. 73 de NW7US dit dit
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 11 лет назад
lol, software? for what?
@pjeaton58
@pjeaton58 9 лет назад
Does the Morse code only encrypt the Roman alphabet or do you have a version for Japanese Hiragana ?? Domo arigato !
@harrygatto
@harrygatto 9 лет назад
Google Japanese Wabun Morse Code. de JG1***
@DataID
@DataID 13 лет назад
Very good!! 73's de SV2BWM...
@bizzimartini
@bizzimartini 13 лет назад
This guy sends really well!...now I know why we couldn't intercept the messege about the attack on Pearl Harbor...lol!
@VulcanOnWheels
@VulcanOnWheels 11 лет назад
I think you wanted to reply to Chris Ould. If you had posted this as a reply to his message, you would have had a greater chance of Chris seeing it.
@okopecz
@okopecz 10 лет назад
ソフトウェアの名前は何ですか? どこでそれを得ることができますか?
@tonyhii76
@tonyhii76 15 лет назад
Amazing And Awesome.wish i could be like him. 9w8hkt.
@typoon514
@typoon514 2 года назад
역시 일본 장비가 좋네요 지금은 오리지날 일본 장비가 없어 아쉽지요
@littleoutlaw4224
@littleoutlaw4224 Месяц назад
$550 GHD Keys GT501A Finest Straight Key GT501A
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 11 лет назад
it would be even better with a resting ellbow.
@TheMCzorro
@TheMCzorro 11 лет назад
Kamaete TONTONTON :)
@petchharrison
@petchharrison 13 лет назад
nice keys look well made...jeff m6glh
@Ram-ox4eg
@Ram-ox4eg 10 лет назад
THNX 73 DE VU2MXM
@riottaba
@riottaba 9 лет назад
huge gap
@brucemorris1418
@brucemorris1418 11 месяцев назад
I disagree - that is far too large a gap and too much tension. You would not be able to send for very long without getting "glass arm" now termed RSI. His grip on the key is absolutely perfect and I always recommend one with a skirt. = DE GW4XXF +
@notforchat
@notforchat 13 лет назад
You don't find many ops in the USA sending with their wrist off the table like that. Most Americans prefer to use a bent lever to keep their arm down on the table. Seems like too much work to lift your arm the way he does. GHD also sells the straight keys with the bent lever for the USA. They're a FB key for sure...
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 9 лет назад
ellbow should rest. if you do longer QTCs with floating ellbow you will get a sloppy rhytm (QSD) as you tire much faster. Aside from that... domo arrigatou
@RicktheRecorder
@RicktheRecorder Год назад
That's the US technique. No much used elsewhere.
@davekloet5252
@davekloet5252 9 лет назад
software name and download site please
@mubmik
@mubmik 9 лет назад
I also wonder it.
@un7tae153
@un7tae153 8 лет назад
+Dave Kloet The program has a name Win CW, but it's in Japanese. I have this program.
@JustWickedSwede
@JustWickedSwede 13 лет назад
Tell me.. when you are not transmitting, are you a drummer? // sm6yzc
@K1OIK
@K1OIK 14 лет назад
next how to talk?
@DavyTop
@DavyTop 15 лет назад
Sorry OM but you should be talking about three sounds. dah di dah dit dah dah di dah. (CQ)
@brian.7966
@brian.7966 2 года назад
using a key is a personal thing, so long as it's comfortable for you, then it's the right way, there is no right or wrong way to use one.
@RicktheRecorder
@RicktheRecorder Год назад
Not really. There are better ways and worse ways, just as in golf.
@astrosimone
@astrosimone 11 лет назад
Improper form? Nevermind .... go to school and learn ;-) (never heard about English-type sending?)
@iz7geg
@iz7geg 7 лет назад
yes for sure , it is very improper way, i learned cw on r/o shipsboard school, ant that not professional manipolation
@n9eerptr
@n9eerptr 4 года назад
And using his wrist to make the characters, should be using only his hand. No not a good way to send CW.
@RicktheRecorder
@RicktheRecorder Год назад
You keep repeating this myth.
@n9eerptr
@n9eerptr Год назад
@@RicktheRecorder This myth as you say is supported by William G Pierpont, the writer of "The Art & Skill of Radio-Telegraphy". He was well known for teaching the sending and receiving of CW and was long time advisor to the military. Alai dor about every type of key used for CW, bug or electronic, a side to side stroke with arm and hand on the table is used and for good reason. Take it from someone who had to send CW for hours at a time. But to each their own, main thing is to get the timing for sending correct.
@RicktheRecorder
@RicktheRecorder Год назад
@@n9eerptr i've dealt with Mr Pierpont in other comments I have made on this video, which no doubt you can find.
@jamilsouzagodoisouzagodoy1099
@jamilsouzagodoisouzagodoy1099 2 года назад
Bosta!!!
@VE3RKP
@VE3RKP 11 лет назад
improper form using the straight key ...his arm will tire out very fast . He should have his forearm resting on the table. 73 de ve3rkp
@RicktheRecorder
@RicktheRecorder Год назад
Sorry, nonsense. Three quarters of the world's professional operators use this style.
@n9eerptr
@n9eerptr 4 года назад
No not the way. With the arm and fist up high one will get a tired fist and arm when sending long messages. Proper way is first the knob it too high and second need to position so arm is lying on the table, like one writing with a pin, how many write with their arm or hand up off the surface, same with key. Nice looking key, but not the best design. Look at the way the Navy use to do it when they used CW. They had like J38s with knob down and low so op could rest low on the table. Yes the op has good fist, but how long before his arm gets tired.
@outdoorbeginners2068
@outdoorbeginners2068 3 года назад
All european keys have hight knob. The technique of this OM is perfect but in the italian navy they were used to put the elbow on the table. But the technique of moving the wrist is better prevent pain in the wrist because you actually use the forearm to transmit. There's no force applied by the wrist that naturally follow the forearm. All of European professional cw operator worked for a lot of hour on ship using this technique. Search for I4CQO.
@n9eerptr
@n9eerptr 3 года назад
@@outdoorbeginners2068 Yes many that have taught sending with straight key do say rest arm on the table. The way it is done in the video one will get pain in the arm after long periods of time. And what about using a bug or a electronic keyer, does one hold their arm off the table, heck no. As was written in "The Art& Skill of Radio Telegraphy" by William Pierpont who gave instruction to the US Navy on learning to receive and send the code saying "The key should be located far enough back from the edge of the operating table, about 18 inches, that the elbow is just off the edge of the table. The operator's arm rests lightly on the table with the wrist off the table" The wrist, not the fingers or the whole arm, does the work as the key goes down and up. Keep the wrist off the table." I when learning and using the code as a Novice and sending for longer periods rest my arm on the table for having off the table did develop pain and had much less control of the key.
@RicktheRecorder
@RicktheRecorder Год назад
@@n9eerptr One just loves the self-confidence of Americans. Just because one William Pierpont taught a particular method suitable for a specific low-profile design of key, doesn't mean its more right or better than other methods. "The way it is done in the video one will get pain in the arm after long periods of time." is obviously nonsense if three-quarters of the world's professional operators use that method. It plainly doesn't cause injury.
@n9eerptr
@n9eerptr Год назад
@@outdoorbeginners2068 I think you hit it, most European keys are made with high knob, where most US keys like Vibroplex and old keys like the famous J38 have the forward shaft coming down and knob very low. So how one sends probably depends on where the knob is. But I do see having low and arm on the table makes it more confrontable. Try just holding your arm out in front of you for 5 minutes like the sending in the video vs resting on a table. One would not normally write on paper with arm high, same with sending. Just makes sense to me. But I use a electronic keyer. Use to be good with straight key, used ole $2.95 key from ARRL as Novice and took my 20 wpm Extra in front of FCC with I think they gave me a J38, passed with no issues. But after getting off CW for 20 years when returned was so bad had to use electronic keyer. Still have couple J38s, but too lazy to relearn it, hi.
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