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How to Optimize Passenger Trains and Metros in Cities Skylines | Verde Beach Ep. 64
Hello and welcome back to Verde Beach! In this episode, we're going to examine the passenger train and metro services to ensure that the routes are structured in ways that minimize delay and maximize ridership! We're going to completely reimagine the metro/subway system and solve the backup issues at the airport. By the end of the episode, we'll add on more than 1,500 resident trips and 500 tourist trips while ensuring there is NO backup in the city! Enjoy!
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CHAPTERS
Intro - 0:00
Trains at the Airport - 3:55
An Express, Underwater Metro - 9:25
Modifying Downtown Metro Lines - 11:11
A Quick Look at the Mulligan Line and other Airport Things - 18:04
Figuring out a HUGE metro tangle at the Goodall Institute - 21:12
Troubleshooting Bass Street Station - 39:00
Finally Fixing the Goodall Institute Tangle - 42:53
One more Tangle - 48:12
Not Perfect, but Perfectly Acceptable - 53:53
Wrapping Up - 56:35

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@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 2 года назад

Great job, love a bit of mass transit tinkering 😁

@David-bh7hs 2 года назад

An appropriate alternative name for this episode would be "how to spend billions of dollars as quickly as possible""

@CityPlannerPlays 2 года назад

Thank you! It's always so gratifying seeing the work come together so quickly!

@robfenwitch7403 2 года назад

Basically, this game is virtual train set... with distractions 😉

@jamesnelson6598 6 месяцев назад

oi’m i’m oo

@jamesnelson6598 6 месяцев назад

@@David-bh7hsooooo

@ttyler7256 2 года назад

I'd love to see mulligan airport reworked and expanded, but it could become too expensive and instead a new one could placed on the other side of the city.

@nhatminhtranngoc8940 2 года назад

episode 68/69 of Verde Beach

@Kasnickijakub 2 года назад

If the airport is rebuilt, the airport should be rotated to make it so that planes don't fly over the city causing noise but away from the city, to reduce noise in the city

@tar5us452 2 года назад

Agreed. Having another airport will help with traffic and transit flow too. Increasing the capacity of the same airport is not going to help much. j

@jefffinkbonner9551 2 года назад

Build a new dream airport that is fully-optimized and keep the iconic island airport as a cargo airport; it's right next to that rail cargo seaport anyways.

@Sam-es2gf 2 года назад

In regards to the airport question: I think you should do both! Mulliganning Mulligan Island in order to put as many seperate/direct lines to areas to stop them clogging up other options, then a big airport where you suggested (because you'll want to toy around with the fanciest options from the new DLC). It's a lot of work, but I think only having one would just mean the jams return later as Verde Beach continues to grow. As always, love the city. :)

@user-ib9pz6id5b 2 года назад

Exactly, the new DLC should have multiple Airport types to choose from, so...

@BoomerKeith1 2 года назад

This is my suggestion too! Eliminate everything on Mulligan Island, terraform more space and start anew with the airport DLC (and have a really solid transportation hub).

@CityPlannerPlays 2 года назад

@@user-ib9pz6id5b that's a great point! Maybe I could get the airport to be exactly the way I've always envisioned it....

@jefffinkbonner9551 2 года назад

The airport island is very cool and unique. It's a distinguishing landmark for the city. It'd be a damn shame to see it go! But the city's airport does need expanded capacity... How about add your dream airport on that empty plot of land out beyond the freeway, and transition the existing airport into being a cargo-only airport. It is right next to that cargo rail seaport, after all. The city could have its Midway and O'hare or JFK and Laguardia.

@Spencergundersenmusic 2 года назад

Yes mulligan regional and mulligan international!!! Upgrade the island with new assets then build a whole new airport

@JoJoJet100 2 года назад

I think it would be cool to tear down and rebuild mulligan international airport. Don't get me wrong - the current airport is beautiful and amazing. But the thing that makes cities amazing is that they are constantly changing and evolving - it wouldn't be right for the airport to stay the same forever.

@cheapknight1293 2 года назад

I totally agree! Although I also like the focus of mulligan island changing to a cargo focus with a new passenger airline being built somehwere else. :)

@jefffinkbonner9551 2 года назад

@@cheapknight1293 agreed. The island airport is really iconic for the city, and there's already a cargo train port there. Cargo airport and shipyards and industry with some nice landscaping would be amazing!

@RideByAquib 2 года назад

@@cheapknight1293 this is a great idea!

@cochemoche 2 года назад

44:58 it'd be cool if separately placed metro stations could be connected by underground paths like in real life so they don't have to come up and cross the street at all to transfer.

@CityPlannerPlays 2 года назад

@user-rb7us2qm7c 2 года назад

there are assets in the steam workshop like this

@jamie7570 2 года назад

What's happening with the eletricity is related not only to day/night (solar power plants are less efficient in the night), but mostly to temperature. The snow DLC added temperature fluctuation, and the need for (slight) heating when it gets down to 10-15 °C. That need gets covered with electricity, hence the increased need.

@Pistigaming 2 года назад

I'd like to see the airport adjusted, however I would like a small community airport like George T Lewis Airport, Cedar Key, FL on the other side of the city.

@crinchious1936 2 года назад

I love that idea!

@schulze82 2 года назад

You're missing a stop on the Burning - Conservation line. The metro only stops on one platform at the station in the middle.

@ThePragmatist839 2 года назад

Yup, it means every one goes to the final stop and then takes the train back one stop on the other side. It’s doubling the passenger numbers for that final segment.

@NelielSugiura 2 года назад

I mentioned it to him on Discord. Hopefully we can get him to fix it. :)

@CityPlannerPlays 2 года назад

I'll get that fixed I'm the next one!

@PockyFiend 2 года назад

I'd go for option #2, Verde Beach International Airport. I'd keep Mulligan Field for cargo or domestic flights, but Verde Beach needs an international airport, and I'm curious about what will be on the new DLC. It's time to build VBX, as well as Clearwater County Regional Airport.

@jefffinkbonner9551 2 года назад

Agreed! Build the dream airport and keep the island airport for cargo

@JoshuaMeehan 2 года назад

Id love to see a complete redo of the airport with the dlc. Maybe with rising sea levels in mind.

@pielcanela2667 2 года назад

That would be a dope addition!!

@CityPlannerPlays 2 года назад

That is a great point - the airport is currently WAY too low and would need to be significantly raised if reconstructed.

@42billybob 2 года назад

I think you missed a simpler solution with the last stop between the pink & green transfer. Doing the trick to switch sides of the station would eliminate the conflict by having them stop on opposite sides of the station since there's only two lines.

@Spegy93 2 года назад

It's so frustrating seeing an unused platform !!!!!! It instantly solves all those problems !

@_qwe_fk_1700 2 года назад

I also don't understand why the light blue line only has 3 stops. Imo it would we way better to extend the dark blue line to the metro station next to the college buildings and also the line from the other side. This would remove the need for the light blue line. The whole metro network just starts to be a big mess with a loss for the bigger picture.

@jefffinkbonner9551 2 года назад

@@_qwe_fk_1700 I think what's being discovered is that loops with 2 lines running in each direction, respectively is far more effective in this game than a series of back-and-forth shuttle lines. Just too much inefficiency, and it creates the need for these double stations that the people walk between.

@_qwe_fk_1700 2 года назад

@@jefffinkbonner9551 um but all those lines just going back and forth? or?

@delugesofgrandeur 2 года назад

@@_qwe_fk_1700 He has shuttle lines, Jeff is suggesting loops, with trains going in opposite directions.

@setujoshi8877 2 года назад

You should consider Mumbai Local Lines , Trains are divided in two categories Fast Line Train and Slow Line Train , Fast Line Train only stops in Major Station ( Distance between Major Station 10-15 Km) , Slow Line Train Stops at every Major and Minor Station , Even Platform are different for both train lines , Mumbai Local transport 8 million passengers every day

@mygetawayart 11 месяцев назад

that's just local and express trains. New York City subway also works this way.

@ciaociaociao377 2 года назад

It would be nice to have a scheme map of the metro-trains-monorail-trams of Verde Beach, everything would be much clearer to understand!

@cf453 2 года назад

This definitely needs a map. I got lost, and I look at maps for a living.

@edwardmiessner6502 2 года назад

Same here. I have no idea where Conservation Station is, only somewhere near Kellerhouse Road Extension.

@CityPlannerPlays 2 года назад

Shameless Discord plug... I just posted this on the server the other day! Hopefully this link will work - media.discordapp.net/attachments/784275496455110666/925103488407576586/SPOILER_Verde_Beach_64.png

@ubernerrd 4 месяца назад

@@CityPlannerPlays Link doesn't work.

@lorenzopappatico 2 года назад

My opinion for the Airport is, depending on how much customization will be possible with the DLC, consider building it somewhere else and maybe bigger, and potentially repurpose Mulligan Island for more cargo activity, like for example build some factories that can directly export thanks to the cargo hubs that you have in place, and/or maybe even the dry dock that builds cruise ships. Speaking of airports I'd like to make an "aesthetical" suggestion: since you have the Space Shuttle at the Space Center, even if it doesn't actually fly, you could build a small airport like the Aero Club or simply put down a strip of a wide road (i.e. avenue) to pretend that's the landing site for the shuttle. And one suggestion for the electricity problem: regardless of the day/night cycle, even if the map has a temperate climate, sometimes the temperatures drop quite a bit, and the citizens use electricity for heating: even if you don't have snow, you might consider some geothermal heating plants and offer them the choice to use it, and that way electricity consumption will drop some. Other than that, nice transit insight and management video, best wishes for a Happy New Year :)

@andrewkosmowski3985 2 года назад

I very much appreciated the detail you showed in solving the public transit issues. Your use of multiple formats demonstrates for others how each can be used, as well as their strengths and weaknesses. Thank you. Regarding the airport, perhaps a second one where you can show off the forthcoming DLC would be nice.

@deshawnsargent1 2 года назад

I think "Mulligan Jr International Airport" when the new DLC drops would be pretty cool

@dante2037 2 года назад

A city the size of Verde Beach that is continuing to grow would definitely have more than 1 airport. I think airports on opposite sides of the city would do wonders for traffic flow and transit since everyone won't have to funnel to one place in the city. Plus, the airports DLC is going to have multiple different airports to choose from!

@adamprovencher2069 2 года назад

Build a new Airport! I like how it’s more historic to have both. Toronto has two international airports one downtown on the waterfront and another further away from downtown.

@sccojake 2 года назад

I think a second airport would be best. Washington DC has access to two major airports, but they serve slightly different functions (even though they overlap in general air service), so I think Verde Beach could support a second large airport. Given the size both physically and population wise it would make sense to have at least one other airport in the region.

@sccojake 2 года назад

That said, you could do both, rework Mulligan AND add a new airport.

@edwardmiessner6502 2 года назад

Three when you count Thurgood Marshall / Baltimore - Washington International

@penguinzplays 2 года назад

Why not use the sunken metro plaza (the one with 10 connection points) for the fire transfer location? Feel like that would allow you to separate, reduce the conflict, etc. You could put it in the square in front of the big building there even, etc.

@jesseveenstra9605 2 года назад

on the burning conservation line, the metro doesn't stop at the olde industrial district towards the transfer station. The metro line only stops there towards the pyrotechnic. That's probably why the number of passengers waiting at that station is so high.

@gwenmorse8059 2 года назад

Two airports please. A lot of cities have a big international airport and smaller hub/regional/cargo airports.

@codegame027 2 года назад

I've done lots of experimentation with transit and the best SINGLE tip I can share is that loops with no "end station" can more efficiently/effectively move more passengers. when you have an endstation you have an intersection at the end stations.

@TemptressTeelia 2 года назад

Just to clarify, you mean a single line that doesn’t double over right? There’s no stop on the opposite platform. Right?

@codegame027 2 года назад

@@TemptressTeelia basically a circle. One that goes clockwise wise and one that goes counter clockwise

@medicallyunexplainedsymptoms 2 года назад

@@TemptressTeelia I think Code_Game means a loop with clockwise and anticlockwise lines. It's a good solution.

@cochemoche 2 года назад

I usually do that too, loops instead of lines

@BoomerKeith1 2 года назад

He did use that method for bus service in an earlier episode (I think it was Verde Beach). Very effective.

@shanehiggins4983 2 года назад

To me, making Mulligan International Airport bigger and more official with better runway config and a bigger island, and then placing a more regional airport above the highway makes the most sense. This is because it is in optimal space for entering the city for tourists and such, then catching public transport into the core. The smaller airport would provide helicopter access for the city and shorter flights and recreational flying around the general area, but ceding airspace to the bigger flights approaching the international airport. You could call the new airport above the highway "Verde Beach Heights Airfield" or something. Thanks as always for the awesome content!

@geckman2022 2 года назад

At the pyrotechnic, the end of line for the Burning - Conservation line, trains were despawning because they couldn't get past each other for some reason. Looked like angle was too sharp.

@CityPlannerPlays 2 года назад

I'll look into that!

@The_Ardashir 2 года назад

The way you figured out for changing platforms in stations was absolutely astonishing!

@robertsimpson9010 2 года назад

Maybe after the airport they could completely revamp trains. Imagine you could place a station that is an end of line single track. As you grow it could be upgraded to a double track. Continued growth could add more tracks and we could create out own bypasses.

@lucaheinrich3894 2 года назад

HEY I really think the airport is in such a great condition right now. The small island with all those other assets integrated into that really creates a unique character. I love to see this airport island with all those great level of detail every time you kinda swing by. In addition to that the public transport system at the airportrrtttttttttt is just soooo good! Regarding the public transport system, I would like to see you to go thruogh every line (bus,metro,monorail...) and check if the demand has changed. If everybody else wants the new airport then they can have it but i really would enjoy, you checking every line you got. Greetings from Germany!!! Luca

@toughluck2012 2 года назад

The end ridership/traffic numbers was so, so satisfying. The struggle beforehand gave me second-hand stress though :)

@itikutok6568 2 года назад

I love how recreational use is a city wide policy. Verde Beach sounds like a great place to live. Happy sims!

@ameyvaidya3440 2 года назад

You may consider terminating metro lines at station next after the Transfer Station instead of at Transfer Station. May be Vehicles take time at Terminal Stations to reverse direction..

@valdoimpalatorez 2 года назад

if you want to get rid of stop jam, just make a loop at the end of the line and add a stop on the other side as well.

@jaredlash5002 2 года назад

That Burning-Conservation line cannot get out of that over-crowded station, even with the wonky metro-under-metro action. That's why you had over 1000 people stuck there. The metros couldn't leave. There are too many lines going to that one station, and forcing transfers all over the place to try to cut down on the problem only adds to the problem.

@MugiwaraRuffy 2 года назад

Intro of the video: Tokyo public transport rush hour in a nutshell. And YES, I experienced Tokyos morning rush hour just for the sake of having experienced it. 🤣 Two days ago, In my Tokyo inspired City, I had very few metro in my city, as I am heavily related on trains (like in Japan). But I totally redisgned my metro network in the center of my city with that underground two level square station.

@legojenn 2 года назад

I've been binging on your videos recently and those from the 5B1C collaboration. Before the holidays, I built a new computer and I knew that I had this game in my Steam library, but it never ran well on my old PC. After about $75 in DLC and hours of tutoria, I'm enjoying the game. Traffic will be the death of me. Cheers.

@ilovechieftains 2 года назад

"Go to Da Club and see 50".....gosh that was an underappreciated joke. Kids won't get that reference anymore and that, wow, that makes me feel old.

@123Comrade 2 года назад

I think Verde Beach deserves 2 airports!! Maybe rework Mulligan Airport and add another one to accommodate future traffic in anticipation for expansion in the future. 100 MOAR EPISODES OF VERDE BEACH!!!!

@leroy0151 2 года назад

As a console player, and literally someone who on the day on watching this had 2 content creator metro lines next to each-other to give me enough stations. Only to discover you could fudge the metro position in this episode. Bless you city planner and have a great end to the year my guy!

@WestOfEarth 2 года назад

There's an excellent train station asset called something like "USC Jefferson Street station". It's really thin, like two or three squares..basically just a platform. I use it all the time for dense areas.

@delugesofgrandeur 2 года назад

This is his mod-free build.

@WestOfEarth 2 года назад

@@delugesofgrandeur Does that include building assets? I know he restricted mods.

@delugesofgrandeur 2 года назад

@@WestOfEarth I believe so... I remember him building something way earlier on and then remarking about how he didn't know how that asset snuck in there and that he wouldn't be using it.

@WestOfEarth 2 года назад

@@delugesofgrandeur got it. thanks!

@billcote7722 2 года назад

I think a “mulligan” on the current airport would be appropriate when the DLC drops. I could be wrong, but VB isn’t large enough for two large airports.

@toprob20 2 года назад

Hahaha Phil, you're exactly right. I'm from the Netherlands and I've used a lot of public transport. And there's nothing more ridiculous than seeing a bunch of people cramming themselves in a packed tram while you can see the next one coming and it's nearly empty!!!

@Micky_D_B 2 года назад

When it comes to efficient transit management, Minneapolis, Minnesota comes to mind. They have a high-speed intercity train, The NorthStar, for the metro area. From there there, they have an intracity tram line, Red Line and Blue Line, connecting each ends of the city limits. And lastly, the have a bus system for more frequent stops around the city. I'm not an expert int the field, but I think it works because the bus lines circulate between tram stops, not moving acrossed stops. I could be wrong, but I think that is why the pedestrian traffic is almost never congested, never converging groups of pedestrian traffic causing jams. That's just my theory though.

@TemptressTeelia 2 года назад

I really thought those metro stations with the middle lines were for express lines to bypass that stop. 🤔 intriguing.

@DamienGranz 2 года назад

God bless the pink car @45:05 who does a 900 point k-turn in the middle of the road like a bee trying to signal good flowers to her hive, right before Pokéballing her car and fleeing on foot.

@WillCSOfficial 2 года назад

YESS so excited for this one!

@peterfranz286 2 года назад

Just finished my binge of verde beach after binging clearwater. 10/10! There are a few things like soil that while I apricate the effort I sometimes wish you would just go crazy with it and not care. Ocean soils

@ttyler7256 2 года назад

Perfect start to my day!

@andrewbeardenbrown 2 года назад

Love all the metro tinkering! To your question about Bass Street, many overloaded stations are crowded because the trains are already full and have no space for anyone new to board. Chances are Central Station one stop back is just taking up all the capacity. The fact that "passengers serviced last week" is so low when the station is so crowded is a dead giveaway that the issues are farther upstream! Same for why the second station on Burning-Conservation is crowded.

@xXxAngryBird101xXx 2 года назад

Realistically speaking, it would make the most sense to build a new much larger airport for the city, just like how Houston built Bush International as a “replacement” for Hobby Airport. This would also allow you to plan out ahead of time all of the mass transit, parking, etc., rather than trying to force it in there on the Mulligan Island. Also, with the fact that the island has major flooding problems, the FAA may require a new site anyway.

@chexmix185 2 года назад

I think a second airport on the main land would be cool. Toronto does something similar where there is a regional airport on an island on Ontario and their international Airport just north-west of the city

@breenseaturtle 2 года назад

London doesn’t have a airport on reclaimed land but they do have multiple airports

@Failsafe31 2 года назад

The Burning - Conservation line corner was too tight for a train to leave the station with another subway waiting at the corner. Make the corner less tight and the subway can leave the station and that'll solve the back up problem you fixed by getting rid of the stop. It would also fix the line if you didn't have the burning-conservation line stopping at the Meadow District transfer station on the same line as the other subway. Poor Burning-Conservation line, lost a stop and gained a station it didn't need because it wasn't being watched as it ran. Feels like a city just making decisions without checking the causes :P

@owenmergliano8160 2 года назад

I think you should add a second, larger island that sort of forms a channel in between the two islands. On this new island you could use the new dlc assets and make more spacious commercial districts and transit hubs. You could also add an inter-island bus system using the new double decker busses.

@FranciT98 2 года назад

I'd love for a second airport to be constructed since it more closely mirrors what happens in real life. Lots of big cities have to build a bigger airport further from the centre when they grow out of a smaller one. Off the top of my head: London has a bunch, I think New York has a few too and I know that Rome, Milan and Glasgow each have at least two. If I were to rework Mulligan Intl, I'd remove the cargo area and rework that into another smaller terminal and/or more transit options to the city.

@samlukas2299 2 года назад

Maybe do like Chicago and have a large O'Hare airport and a smaller Midway on the other side of the city to spread the load. Maybe add a cargo hub on the other side of the city and leave Mulligan Island as strictly passenger

@quoniam426 2 года назад

There is a bypass station on the Mulligan Line. And one free platform at the airport... The Mulligan Line should be a regional service linking all the city to the Airport and there should be an express going through the bypass from the Airport to the Down Town Central Station. The Mulligan shouldn't go there, only the express one should. As a transport nerd I would take the Airport shuttle line with no one in the trains anyday of the week ! But given the train station is right beside the airport, it is kinda useless... All that would be needed IRL would be to build the train station right in front of the airport terminal, underground, parallel to the metro station. Something you should be able to do with modded assets such as Move It, Anarchy and MOM. 31:12 There is dark Navy blue line that blocks the light red line, causing its problems... Plus the White Line really should be in its own stations since you are already short of available tracks. Pink and White are now in conflict. I recommend you to make it seperate infrastructure or turn the White to a monorail or tram. Glad you finally realized the same thing. Shame we can't trace underground transfers corridors between the metro stations when they are so close to eachother... Don't forget to add fences to the side of the new metro station to avoid leaking visitors in the park ! WIth the upcoming Airport DLC, either reowrk the actual airport or build a new one and the second line of the metropolitan airport could become an inter airport link. (or a real airport shuttle if the new terminal is not far from the first one). Seriously, there would be no need for a second station, how can the game prevent you from changing one of the two lines from one side to the other? 55:08: In think you lack a stop on one of the two tracks...

@MySouLisBlue Год назад

best transport management episode since the start of the serie so far. great great great work. i know i'm late on it but i'm not in hurry to get to the "nowaday episodes" then i can watch 3 or 4 episode in a row :)

@frenchfriar 2 года назад

For your airport situation, I think you should build a large new international airport somewhere outside the current city, then once that's in place, you could consider closing Mulligan to update and renovate that terminal. That's normally how airports are expanded or redone, so there's never a time when air services are discontinued. And I think it might have similar rewards in game, since you won't be disrupting your transit and imports. Might also want to just review your train lines, make sure they still make sense and give them names as well. This was a fascinating episode and I found it really interesting to see you work through the problems in real time. Happy new year to you!

@IsaacIsaacIsaacson 2 года назад

I feel like with Mulligan Airport island, the entire island is probably the property of the port or airport authority and the commercial is just rented out.

@boredow2003 2 года назад

City planner, When I first started playing CS, due to me not using public transport often, I absolutely hated it and didn't use it at all. Watching you build Verde Beach has infected me with a love for public transportation and city planning. I can now watch for hours on end how sims will endlessly flow into and out of my metro hub.

@proximalalpha1620 2 года назад

I vote new airport near the ruins. Isn't unheard of to have airports near historic places (ex. Fort Snelling and MSP Intl.). At 48:15 you added a whole new stop instead of cheesing the stop to the other side of the platform like you did for the rest of the episode. A little confusing to over-engineer but the result was success so that is all that really matters. Thank you again for the great content!

@stevenp5326 2 года назад

Outside of managing passengers in the game, is there any benefit of forcing transfers irl? Seems like longer, more connective lines would be way more desirable. I'd rather take one train to get somewhere than transfer.... even if it took slightly longer. For example, all lines in BART in the bay area go from one end of the system to another, except for a couple that end in SF (where people might only take BART for a few stops).

@IceDree 2 года назад

Holy flying bat cow, that's a lot of people! May I suggest replacing the Meadow district bus station with a Bus/Metro hub? I mean, you already called a mulligan on that area and you don't like the new street, might as well replace the bus station too. Having two metro stations built into the building is better than an additional adjacent metro station. As for the airport, in my humble opinion, wait for the new dlc & revamp Mulligan Island then, the new Airports & the museum they showed in the trailer look promising. Hopefully it'll add more hubs to the game. Also, when the time comes to recamp Mulligan Island, may I suggest upgrading the train station to one of the big 6-lane hubs? I'm sure Karen Sterling would an express train line from the airport to her town. Excellent work like always, Phil.

@lfitzgibbon46 2 года назад

City planner, it would be handy if you could build double width metro tunnels for when you've got 2 lines that pass through a station so the tunnel would have 4 tracks. I feel that would resolve a bunch of the problems here

@DTPGMedia585 2 года назад

I love how you put the metro under the beach.. it makes it possible so if a evacuation have to happen they could dig up the beach to get accsess to the tunnel

@randomdude0121 2 года назад

I love how the intro is called "Intro and Bob Ross fixes", while not even touching the Bob Ross interchange

@Sam-es2gf 2 года назад

That line placement trick is fantastic.

@madao7865 2 года назад

Would be interesting to see an in-place airport revamp while trying to keep the operation uninterrupted.

@anddrewb1367 2 года назад

Yep that's how I like doing my major infrastructure projects

@redgose4403 2 года назад

i think the comservation burning line is missing a stop midway and that could be clogging the trains as some passengers have to go through one end to get to the middle maybe that will help

@barny4586 2 года назад

I think you should completely re-make mulligan international airport and then also make a smaller 'regional' airport on the other side of the city.

@tbaymufon6448 2 года назад

OMFG! I had no idea I could change which station side my metro docks at! Thank you for showing that! I was wondering why I had like 10 metros backed up waiting. They are probably all trying to jam in in the same side.

@ravishah2255 2 года назад

I think you should just use the metro plaza from CCP to shift the dual-platform station next to the bus stop(shown at the start of the video) and end all the lines there. You can easily end 10 lines at that station without getting any conflicts. (stretch and delete points to assign different sides of the platforms) And it's a much cleaner solution and will work without problems. Currently, you've no room to grow with some lines running at 500%. Only transfer will happen for the bus station and you can make it so that bus station transfer does not need to cross road.

@matrizz 2 года назад

Regarding the airport question, I believe that an expansion of the current airport would be beneficial assuming the city is going to receive a lot of tourists in the future and also it would be less pricey than going all out and building a completely new airport. This is due to the relocation of highway direction, metro lines, train network direction; these would all have to be adjusted alongside some other key things that would just be too pricey to relocate to a completely different place/adjust them. I do think that adding a little community airport with a flight school or something similar would be nice though, that could be a project for later on. Edit: I suggest experimenting with adding taxi stands at the airport as that may balance out the ridership of different modes of transport. Hope it helps.

@Popolamma 2 года назад

'we should really make this white line more logical, too' I have been waiting to hear those words for SO LONG! So many crossings and weirdness over there.

@krisculin9679 2 года назад

With the recent creator DLC, there's a metro station that has like 16 available lines. Something like that. It might come in handy now. Make it like a metro Grand Central Station. Maybe.

@davidtee5367 2 года назад

during the 'one more tangle' section, you added a hokey metro station, but would it be possible to use the trick where you choose which side of the platform trains load on to get the green and salmon lines to load on opposite sides? that should have the same effect as turning both stations in to end stations

@CityPlannerPlays 2 года назад

Would have liked to, but the issue is that the lines meeting and the east and west were waiting for boarding/alighting to finish before going themselves. That was leading to delay and backup.

@ZebraLens 2 года назад

I find fun in reworking the current airport instead of building a new one. Thinking about ATL Airport, they added on to the existing airport instead of finding a new plot. It was cheaper to buy neighboring plots to expand out, especially when they added the new international terminal.

@thefrenchbrit8991 2 года назад

You forgot a metro stop in the industry area ! Besides that, great video, very needed changes !

@antoniomdavis367491 2 года назад

I vote to bring over the Mulligan Mod from Clearwater County build to Verde Beach build for a new height of realism!!

@AliZaybakII 2 года назад

Please show the view where you can see all the Cims pathing over the roads! I love seeing where they are coming from and going to

@williamhuang8309 2 года назад

52:58 "they will jam themselves into a vehicle and make it work" When my train shows 75 people out of 72:

@e1123581321345589144 2 года назад

nice work. I'm a big fan of transit networks and watching this stuff get untangles is really satisfying :) and regarding the airport, I'd go for expanding Mulligan Island.

@GJ203 2 года назад

I think Mulligan International Airport should absolutely be redone when the new DLC comes out.

@achilleasdimitriosagaklees6219 2 года назад

keep this size of the airport. if you go bigger you should thinking of a reconstruction of your public trasp also

@jrm78 2 года назад

The Burning-Conservation line skips a stop at the Olde Industrial District heading from the Pyrotechnic towards the Bus-Metro hub. Adding it back might help the ridership a little bit. Otherwise, I enjoy traffic/transit fixes just as much as an interesting build. As far as the future of the Mulligan International Airport, I say keep it, but add a second airport somewhere else when the Airports DLC comes out. Also, maybe consider adding the Hobby Airport somewhere in the build. Maybe near the spaceport since a lot of astronauts have also been avid aviators.

@Pyrovile42 2 года назад

I really like transport episodes. Great work on this one!

@Ubi2447 2 года назад

I would honestly like to see both an expansion to the current airport as well as see a new regional airport. Perhaps with emphasis on recreational flying. I think it would be fun to see a couple different airports for different purposes and it would create more content. Either way, gunna love it. Thank you for what you do!

@ejhoffman2625 2 года назад

Great episode! I'd like to see Mulligan International reworked as well as a smaller, separate airport when the Airport DLC drops. Take care and until next time, CPP!

@thebearded_guardian3671 2 года назад

I cannot wait to see what you do with the new airport DLC coming soon

@thebearded_guardian3671 2 года назад

To add to my comment from before, I was at work when I commented. Would this city benefit from a regional airport versus another international airport?

@Hubbubb22-citiesskylines 2 года назад

to add or demo? It depends on what kind of community Verde Beach aspires to be. It hasn’t been my impression that Verde Beach intends to become a sprawling metropolitan area like Houston or DC or NYC… which might necessitate two airports. But rather a bustling, vibrant mid-size city economically dependent partly on tourism and partly on its native forestry industry. It’s a cozy city to visit but not because it is monstrously huge and overwhelming in scale. Denver seems a more appropriate model. Denver built DIA, and then applied new urbanism concepts to redevelop the old airport into what is now central park neighborhood. You could add a new DLC airport where you have mentioned and the redevelop the old airport into exclusively an industrial cargo port/hub, expanding capacity and relocating some of your more noxious industrial uses into the spaces opened up by demoing the old airport. It could be the mother of all mulligans.

@saifuddinareeb657 2 года назад

I think you should expand Mulligan Island. Also it is really strange that a city of 100k doesn't have a taxi service.

@lowellkimberley 2 года назад

Hello! Just a tip: track-based transit will prefer the right-hand track when adding stops, depending on the direction you draw them. If you want two lines to share a single stop as a transfer point, play with which direction you draw the route.

@OneFuriousDon 2 года назад

I think your airport is perfectly fine as it is, even amaizing... I wouldn't change it at all, however I would like to see another one built in a different location. :) Keep up the good work. :)

@Pyrochemik007 2 года назад

Czech republic, Prague, uses trams to alleviate the traffic from metro. They basicaly follow the metro line, with proper transfer stations, and some extra stations too. Those are prefered by people driving shorter distances, and they are easier to transfer to other tramlines, plus tourists prefer them. And when metro is undergoing some emergency or planned repairs, it is easier to replace it´s capacity by throwing a few more trams on the line.

@KTo288 Год назад

In in game terms interchange stations on systems like London Underground would be separate stations separated both horizontally beside each other and vertically one above the other, with passengers getting between them by tunnels stairs, escalators and lifts (elevators). It would be neat if the game had lifts as a vertical transport mode, not just to stacked transit hubs, but things like footbridges, and cliffs.

@onemanzu 2 года назад

@CPP, a RU-vidr that goes by Real Civil Engineer talked about The Spring Paradox the other day in his play through of Freeways. Apparently if you have a bit of extra road, you can put more vehicles on the road and space them out further. Could you do that with your Burning- Conservation line? Have some extra track to force them to spread out?

@royvandermarel3953 2 года назад

Oftentimes you'll find that the station with the highest number of passengers waiting is not the issue, but the one before it that fills up the entire train/subway/metro. If it enters a station with 150 riding passengers, it isn't going to take a lot of new passengers, hence backing up station B, while station A needs more connections

@dominicmarten7887 2 года назад

New Airport - YES!

@HOTET3 2 года назад

You could've used the line extension trick on the Meadow district metro stop, to have the lines meet but at separate platforms, enabling a more efficient in-station transfer. Also subterranean train tunnels (like the London Crossrail) could be worth looking into as a metro alternative

@Schafecast 2 года назад

London has three airports serving it nowadays, I think with the Airport DLC making a new airport and leaving muligan island as a legacy development with better connectivity to the city but less capacity would be fine. It feels Verde Beach may want to grow larger still, maybe even seeding the suburb/satellite town that will become overawed by the new airport built next to it which is really serving the city.