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How to Pack a Rucksack 

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One Shepherd's 9-minute training video "How to Pack a Rucksack" employs the USGI Medium ALICE.
The specific focus of this training is for combat patrols in environments other than mountain warfare. Mountain warfare includes climbing and rappelling tasks that necessitate a weight distribution of placing the heaviest items closer to the center of gravity -- the spine.
That exception aside, the majority of combat environments demand a weight distribution of heaviest items placed as close to the shoulder blades as possible, and balanced left to right. Furthermore, notice that items of immediate need are intentionally placed in the outside pockets, flaps, or added onto either side of the rucksack where they can be accessed readily.
This training video makes recommendations. Your unit will, of course, develop its own Standard Operating Procedure.
-- One Shepherd in conjunction with Olive Drab Journal and Battle Rattle Radio

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@tomcraven47
@tomcraven47 9 лет назад
Field stripping the MREs will take up less space, and save you from having to slice them open in the field. RIP Eastwind.
@edwardgazi7564
@edwardgazi7564 4 года назад
Thank you for the information. I am doing that next time I go hunting
@alexvidu4517
@alexvidu4517 4 года назад
This was great, been searching for "jungle survival guide" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Ryanzon Survival Genie - (just google it ) ? Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my neighbour got excellent success with it.
@urielmartinez2161
@urielmartinez2161 4 года назад
Yeah, but don't forget that the bag is very useful they can pack anywhere empty. Armor use them as toilets
@gideonflynn8944
@gideonflynn8944 3 года назад
Instablaster
@Iammrstclair
@Iammrstclair 9 лет назад
If you put the sleeping bag at the bottom of the ruck sack and the sleeping pad at the top, your legs and hips carry the weight and leaves less of a burden on your back and shoulders.
@scouttroop291
@scouttroop291 7 лет назад
way i do it and back in day use the dry bag for sleeping bag 5 gal gas can straps hold it to the pack old belts boy scout
@tadcobert1307
@tadcobert1307 Год назад
Yes! The heaviest load should be in the middle of the lower back/bottom of the ruck, NOT up high. Packed like this, one slight bend over to avoid a tree branch and the ruck will either slide off or pull the wearer over onto their head-bad load plan!
@DarkMetaOFFICIAL
@DarkMetaOFFICIAL Год назад
the best optimal way is matching your body's axis of movement and center of gravity with the pack, making it as dense and uniform in weight as possible, in the shape of a box from top of the shoulders to the bottom of lower back. but yeah, if you have one thing heavier than anything else but for some reason you refuse to spread it evenly, which is best, but the heavy crap handles best at the top of the back, then lower. it's fine if you stack extra stuff, heavy loads as high as you want, because there will be weight at the bottom to counter act it making it impossible to fall over as long as you pack it evenly. i guess this is what tribes in africa have figured out thousands of years ago lol. and why mountain trekkers will always stack things up high before adding downward force or back pulling force coming from the middle or bottom of your pack. it throws everything off.
@MrAzrancher
@MrAzrancher 10 лет назад
Very professional video, many thanks. I worked hard to properly pack my alice (large) and now laugh at what I was told..."dump that crap out and load this....02 claymores, 02 radio batteries, 04 belts 60 ammo, 02 smoke grenades, 02 CS grenades, 01 night scope. I ended up with room for a poncho liner, all of my Crats placed in my socks tube style and a towel and toothbrush/razor in the top flap. I also ended up with every 2 qt and 1 qt canteen I could attach. Water and ammo was the motto of the day. Thank you for this video.
@gregjohnson9983
@gregjohnson9983 5 лет назад
I would try to keep the socks more easily accessible. My preference. I've always taken care of my feet. And changing socks is such an easy and overlooked way to keep your feet healthy for the hike.
@eddiep47
@eddiep47 9 лет назад
Is that John Candy narrating?
@lirabarbajavier
@lirabarbajavier 4 года назад
Hahaha 😜😈
@squirreltamer2548
@squirreltamer2548 3 года назад
Sure sounds like it!
@eddiep47
@eddiep47 3 года назад
@@squirreltamer2548 hahaha!!!!
@vermontvermont9292
@vermontvermont9292 3 года назад
Hahaha omg I never realized that.
@doublemountainman9962
@doublemountainman9962 2 года назад
That’s not a real gun! That’s a pellet gun!
@Quadmachine0
@Quadmachine0 13 лет назад
This is an awesome video on packing the medium alice pack, and I will refer back to it when necessary. You guys should put out a video on packing the large alice rucksack, I just got one but it's a little tricky to pack correctly. Thanks.
@airmoccasins
@airmoccasins 8 лет назад
man my family was kinda poor where I had this kinda bag used by my grandfather as a school bag, man we're those the day's
@hamishdow2188
@hamishdow2188 8 лет назад
Average Joe the best school bag ever in my opinion I had the same one, money was tight growing up and my parents went to a surplus store and bought me a bag that in my dads exact words "won't wear out and will last you until you finish school" it only just wore out about 2 months ago which is nearly 2 years after I left school
@airmoccasins
@airmoccasins 8 лет назад
Hamish Dow dang that's really cool man
@Sakitsunebi
@Sakitsunebi 8 лет назад
Back when a man made due with what he had.
@airmoccasins
@airmoccasins 8 лет назад
Lol ramen noodles
@Sakitsunebi
@Sakitsunebi 8 лет назад
Average Joe 1204 Sounds like my college days haha. That and lots of cheap, crappy beer lol. Ahhhh, good times.
@armandogonzales9304
@armandogonzales9304 4 года назад
A forced road march with a loaded ALICE is an ass whoop.
@chrisw46360
@chrisw46360 11 лет назад
Finally, a basic no frills load out. I have been looking for this for some time. Subbed, liked, and shared on stumbleupon. Great vid!
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 5 лет назад
Great videos, gentlemen!
@ec3232
@ec3232 3 года назад
Night vision equipment and optics are considered sensitive items and there for have to be carried on your person and would never be allowed to be stored in your ruck!!
@tylerjackson8510
@tylerjackson8510 12 лет назад
Great question! The Bivy (read: Gortex water proof) bag is a cover slip that your sleeping bag is put into to make water proof. From there your simply "Stuffing" your now water proofed covered sleeping bag system into the Black Compression bag (read "Stuff bag"). Ive conducted patrolled over alot of miles in alot of weather conditions ( read rain..heavy heavy rain) and it stays perfectly dry on the out side of your Ruck..plus we are always rucking so much stuff that we need that space inside
@GIJoker
@GIJoker 12 лет назад
Best damn video I have seen yet. Outstanding! Keep them coming, please!
@geraldmiller8973
@geraldmiller8973 3 года назад
you are easily pleased.
@joeoathkeepernuno7086
@joeoathkeepernuno7086 8 лет назад
1990 all over again. Thank you!
@carsonp.7009
@carsonp.7009 7 лет назад
i do not think you need the intermediate bag unless you're going into the arctic bro, use the patrol bag instead, also strip down the MRE's, but great vid
@pvtavis
@pvtavis 6 лет назад
DeltaGaming also probably don't need a full bag and a woobie. Just my experience.
@soothingmeow22
@soothingmeow22 6 лет назад
DeltaGaming I thinking of the same thing about the mss but the mre for demonstration purposes and just to go by what the old Field Manual said I understand
@edgdgsjj
@edgdgsjj 9 лет назад
That Pancho should be inserted into the cover of ruck so when it rains it's easy access. The sleeping bag on top prevents the head from looking forward while in the prone position. You could easily pack more... stuff, jam, cram that stuff in. That sleeping bag is twice as big as it should be.
@ymp5000
@ymp5000 8 лет назад
Strip those MRE's down man. You don't need the whole damn package.
@markschmidt7167
@markschmidt7167 7 лет назад
ymp5000 right?
@kalleolson7296
@kalleolson7296 7 лет назад
well Mre is meant for 24 hours, breakfast lunch supper etc
@StevenTheAristolianNerd
@StevenTheAristolianNerd 6 лет назад
@@kalleolson7296 Not the US MREs. They have 1 meal per package.
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 5 лет назад
what was your MOS? I've never been able to save more than a few ounces by stripping down. Best outcome is just to lose the excess packaging.
@LTbyerly
@LTbyerly 5 лет назад
@@GruntProof It doesnt loose weight more then make the package smaller and easier to back. Ounces lead to pounds too.
@C1o88er3d
@C1o88er3d 11 лет назад
Apart from protecting gear from water, one of the best uses is for an emergency shelter. You can make a small pup tent or a lean to with it. A lot of people I know who like to pack light when hiking will carry one or two tarps and make their shelters from nylon cord and sticks they cut in the woods.
@woodsranger2007
@woodsranger2007 12 лет назад
Mil- brown poly thermals can take you into the 40's, because you are completely surrounded in the hammock by the fleece&liner. Ozark makes a great fleece bag @2.3lbs for same temps. I place GTex jacket in the top flap. Dry bag holds: liner,u-ware,heavy socks,tee,fleece gloves and hat,mid wt thermal, TP and hanky. Inner pouch for a 2 liter hydra-bladder. I use para cord to hang the 48x96" hammock (I'm 69"). Pcord is looped through a sleeve at each end. Use heavy duty thread-6 passes. Cold War Vet
@pd2210
@pd2210 12 лет назад
Good job matt
@jackmackeever232
@jackmackeever232 5 лет назад
You could use the compression straps of the compression sack to compress your fart sack, then it wouldn't look like you strapped your sea bag to your ruck. Also, those spaghetti straps are all wrong. Those are used with the M-1956 web gear and carry the blanket/sleeping bag and shelter half, and those snap tab deals sure enough are an attachment point, they run under your arms and attach to the rectangular rings on the front of the M-1956 suspenders, the sewn tab at the end just keeps it from running through the adjustment buckle. Most of your other fails have already been covered by others.
@jakobroynon-fisher9535
@jakobroynon-fisher9535 3 года назад
They don't care though, they probably make a mint off of training people who are not gonna question them on their explanations of things.
@ec3232
@ec3232 3 года назад
Most unit SOPs (standard operating procedures) require your sleeping mat on the top of the ruck and require your sleep system stuff pack to be packed inside the ruck.
@HerbWalker
@HerbWalker 5 лет назад
Our 19 Delta Cavalry Scouts carried more than that PLUS a PRC -77 Squad Radio :)
@IrishRebel
@IrishRebel 12 лет назад
Given that the weight difference between the entrenching tool and magazine pouch can vary significantly, the two canteens should be attached to the bottom of the ruck, not the top ( even though they would most likely be worn on a pistol/tactical belt or a load bearing harness).
@uberitup84
@uberitup84 11 лет назад
Now have a Kevlar on your head with that sleeping bag right there. Not going to be an enjoyable patrol. If you take the MRE outa the bag it packs much nicer. I never had a tarp on my packing list. Depending on your environment you don't need both bags and cover for the sleep system it packs much smaller that way. this is good in principal but falls a little short IMO. Mortars are HUNG!!
@jroynonfisher
@jroynonfisher 4 года назад
That bit about the tie down straps is wrong. The system was meant for use with the M1956 suspenders that have an eyelet that the button fastener was supposed to loop through.
@claychandler3468
@claychandler3468 6 лет назад
20 years. Of service. Some or this is correct. Most way wrong.
@a45456565
@a45456565 10 месяцев назад
Thank you😺
@chrislarsen2703
@chrislarsen2703 8 лет назад
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@jamesdarmedy5259
@jamesdarmedy5259 6 лет назад
Chris Larsen can anyone attend
@doorkickerc.m.p.3874
@doorkickerc.m.p.3874 5 лет назад
@James . Not you.
@bootstrapperwilson7687
@bootstrapperwilson7687 2 года назад
Principal.
@danawankinthewoods.5642
@danawankinthewoods.5642 2 года назад
Being in the UK. I have a Arctic sleep bag and mount it on the bottom of my pack using an alice sleep system carrier. Ive never seen the spagetti straps before, so this was informative. Thanks.
@alhansen75
@alhansen75 12 лет назад
In case you didn't know, this isn't a MOLLE system. The one he is using here is an ALICE system. Alice uses metal clips for anchoring accessories, where as a MOLLE system uses straps. I'd hate for you to buy a MOLLE when you were looking for this one. Cheers.
@drcsep
@drcsep 11 лет назад
Awesome video. Quite informative. Gracias.
@pr0n3
@pr0n3 12 лет назад
That backpack does not look very comfortable compared to a modern day backpacking bag, but it does look plenty tough.
@villhelmcranford5358
@villhelmcranford5358 9 лет назад
And do not forget. Take off the hello fucking yello. And for the commentator. Do not quit your day job.
@TeoMaragakis
@TeoMaragakis 9 лет назад
Villhelm Cranford I think it's an academy for special soldiers.
@TIGERAVENTURVIVAL
@TIGERAVENTURVIVAL 5 лет назад
Thank you for teaching the sleeping bag hitch system to the backpack. Good video.
@matthewprior3762
@matthewprior3762 6 лет назад
Very good vid!! 👌🏿
@desertsurvivalist1
@desertsurvivalist1 12 лет назад
Great info....I'll keep this in mind when I repack my bug-out bag.
@toddinfl
@toddinfl 11 лет назад
Nice vid... ALICE rules!!!
@rastenborg
@rastenborg 2 года назад
One addition. The foraging bag is common throughout NATO and can be seen as a bread bag on most WWII shows. Note that it has a shoulder strap and attached to the belt. It would contain stove, mess kit, canteen, water treatment, and a days rations. It was called a foraging bag as the soldiers would carry it to go to villagers in search of food they were to supply. In the US military was moved to the rear as a fanny or butt pack or now called a patrol pack.Itvis carried center rear low on the alice or MOLLE. It was often not used as it was in the way of the rucksack. That was due today Sergeant negligence. The same utility strap or the two quart canteen is a disposable item intended for the patrol pack. In Alice webbing a patrol pack can be worn at the bottom on the belt, a additional higher up on the back, or with imagination worn on the front as a chest pack. But the most logical place is worn with the shoulder strap on the right hip so the soldier has access to water, food, and other items throughout the day. So that's where the patrol - butt pack goes! Utility strap missing! What were you thinking? For local foraging the mess kit may be carried in the patrol bag. The steel pot was also useful for team potato,carrot,onion,and corn fresh stew. It's a vegetable or cooking pot. Water bucket, etc. Finally they had a mess kit pouch that fit on Alice harness or earlier systems. It could also be attached to the pack. ( Due to poisoning of food by partisans in occupied countries foraging or local fodder is replaced by packaged meals.) Patrol bag utility strap. ( With 2 at canteen #) Correct side wear. Mess kit pouch. T
@MassEvans
@MassEvans 6 лет назад
That sleeping bag is huge when in the stuff sack. I want to get one as my colleagues swear by them, I jus want to know if it will fit in a 100 litre British army PLCE bergan and still leave room for other items?
@christopherlarsen7788
@christopherlarsen7788 6 лет назад
The USGI ECWCS sleeping system will fit into the UK PLCE rucksack. The sleeping system compresses very well, but takes a minute to push out the air. You should still have plenty of room for mission essential items.
@ExtremeLARPr
@ExtremeLARPr 11 лет назад
Great video, thanks!
@WarKid-ut8mx
@WarKid-ut8mx 3 года назад
Theoretically this should work on Vietnam war rucks?
@woodsranger2007
@woodsranger2007 12 лет назад
I use a viet nam lg ponco liner with a fleece throw sewn onto it. It is sewn up as a bag. Note with modern liners you may need to sew a fleece strip down the bag if the liner can't fully wrap around you. Wt=2.8lbs. It will take you down to 50 with light brown Mil- poly balaclava,clothes, and heavy socks. I made a light nylon hammock. Left a small hole in bottom of the bag. Run the para cord that cinches the end of the hammock through the hole. Pull liner up around you. Don't need a bag or pad.
@TheWildChild308
@TheWildChild308 11 лет назад
I would have the opening for the case containing the entrenching tool facing the other way so that it can be accessed without removing the backpack.
@CourtneysCockpit
@CourtneysCockpit 9 лет назад
I wanna pack like this when I travel!!!
@Tenhoff1788
@Tenhoff1788 11 лет назад
Great video, I just have a few questions. What size tarp is that? And what does the military use traps like that for? Thanks.
@Fede_uyz
@Fede_uyz 4 года назад
Nevee carried a ruck sac itself, but i've done plenty of hikes with large camping back packs. As a life long Scout, and a 1st class one at that (highest in my country) we were always taught to carry the heaviest equimpent right by your hip belt, so the heaviest stuff gets carried by your hip. Then the higher you get, the ligther you get. For me, my sleeping back is always on the bottom, sleeping pad on top. Any comments on why these 2 philosophies vary so much? I mean, i get it, i wont get shot at during a hike, but non the less i dont want my maps and compass in the bottom either, also, besides, a ruck sack when it comes to it, its just a large framed backpack. So i'm really interested in hearing why the philosophies vary so much
@CragDawgs
@CragDawgs Месяц назад
If heavy items to low they tip you over You want light on bottom medium near hips heavy between close to your back Medium to light between far from your back Light on top
@dustinnop
@dustinnop 12 лет назад
thanks for the video
@TheTSFChannel
@TheTSFChannel 12 лет назад
Uh... rucksack design and load bearing theory has evolved since 1973, when the ALICE system came out. You can clearly see the sleep system resting on the dude's head in the end. What's avoided is the poor ergonomics and ineffectiveness of the suspension system. The shoulder straps are in the shoulder well, where your rifle stock should go, making it combat ineffective right there! While the video is well produced, subscribing to it's TTPs will get you hurt. ~TSF
@MrSwitch1934
@MrSwitch1934 11 лет назад
Damn! Really man.
@ArcanaL0rd
@ArcanaL0rd 11 лет назад
Thanks for guide, good stuf.
@berner
@berner 5 лет назад
And this can be yours, if the Price is right. "Two hundred dollars, Bob!" Great video by the way. The ruck looks good.
@wildbanana5628
@wildbanana5628 3 года назад
It blew my mind having the sleeping system outside and on top of the ruck sack!!! I’m gonna do this from now on, I’ll just make sure to waterproof it!
@nosejose1
@nosejose1 9 лет назад
This is a very interesting and informative video. Thanks for posting it.
@BillyBOB-sm3rl
@BillyBOB-sm3rl 8 лет назад
The wet weather bag should be turned inside out and all items placed in it. The inside pocket is for a PRC-77 radio. I would find a military issue shovel and case. I will hang better on your military ruck. O designers like to make up numbers. You can't use the same space twice, if you fill that inside pocket, your taking up space on the inside of the ruck. My family has a big military history. Anyway, I found an old FM that showed how to pack your ruck. I have one uncle that went to ROTC. He didn't finish. Funny story there. Not a bad video in general.
@DontEatSoap66
@DontEatSoap66 12 лет назад
Awesome, I just found a guy about 30 minutes away on craigslist with about 90 large/medium ones for $5 each.
@djay6651
@djay6651 10 лет назад
The up and over donning method isn't really taught in the US Army any more. I've met E-7's who didn't know what I was doing by using that method. With the MOLLE pack, the up and over is far easier than trying to put in on like a jacket, which is pretty much the universal method I've seen in the last 5 years.
@DefinningFactor
@DefinningFactor 11 лет назад
Best move I ever did was splurge on a 15 degree sleeping bag that goes down to a 1/3 the size of the current gi issue sleeping system and even more if you use its compression sack. Sure, it costs $200, but with an armor system, your going to need the extra room if you want to eat. Granted I am coming form the newer age packs, the IBLE is what I am used to...over the head had its problems as well, but not as bad due to the metal frame not being exposed in comparison to the ALICE pack
@sviatoslavkolovrat5604
@sviatoslavkolovrat5604 7 лет назад
Is that sleeping bag stuff sack waterproof? Because if not that Jo will have a very bad night if it starts pissing down before he gets to he's FOB
@nopeyup8176
@nopeyup8176 7 лет назад
that stuff sack is in fact not water proof nor is it water resistant.
@oIZhenyaIo
@oIZhenyaIo 5 лет назад
your sleep system should be in its bivvy cover... wink wink.
@johnbrown2163
@johnbrown2163 3 года назад
Is it just me or do you love a good bag?
@bhh94
@bhh94 12 лет назад
surely packing your sleeping bag outside And at the top it could get wet?? I'm doing Gold d of e in a couple days and wondering how best to pack my bag..
@SuperRip7
@SuperRip7 7 лет назад
How much is all that weight ?
@tyronewalker5764
@tyronewalker5764 7 лет назад
Trying to get the most out of my ALICE mid-size.
@whisper8742
@whisper8742 2 года назад
The demonstrator and production crew were not in the Infantry. The sleeping bag goes on bottom, the ground pad with ground cloth go on top. Bag on top prevents head movement while patrolling with helmet. The extra outer uniform and pair of boots were omitted. Poncho and extra undies were rolled incorrectly. And the loose exterior compression straps are to be rolled under and taped to prevent movement, snags and noise. Also the shoulder straps and hip belt must be adjusted to accommodate load bearing equipment, aka LBE. You forgot your knife/bayonet, compass, boot polish, and wound dressing too. Polo shirts are likewise unauthorized... Range cadre fails you on this exercise. Start over.
@veteranpatriot4474
@veteranpatriot4474 3 года назад
Fantastic Video on How to properly Load an ALICE pack with all of the essentials and yet still Have room for other items. This video reminds Me of the Old style Military ones I used to watch in Boot Camp back in San Diego when I was a wee younger.
@angryveteran8585
@angryveteran8585 8 лет назад
man, I'm glad we had large rucks during Basic/AIT, can't imagine trying to mess around with those spaghetti straps in the field.
@Aquilifer321
@Aquilifer321 8 лет назад
pussy...
@angryveteran8585
@angryveteran8585 8 лет назад
simon pronesti ?
@Pauliey365
@Pauliey365 8 лет назад
What do you mean by "The Field"?
@angryveteran8585
@angryveteran8585 8 лет назад
Going out to train in the woods. Aka 'field problems' or just the field. We'd go out for a week or two at a time. Do they not do that anymore? Of course almost everyone is Stryker or mech these days. Ain't about that light infantry lifestyle no more.
@Pauliey365
@Pauliey365 8 лет назад
I think you saw way to much into this considering my name...... I was hoping it would have made you laugh.
@reddevilparatrooper
@reddevilparatrooper 10 лет назад
I usually place a poncho in the center pocket for quick access,MREs if 2 on the 2 outside pockets of course field stripped with all the unnecessary shit and resealed the bag with an electric hair curler borrowed from the wife or girlfreind.I put socks into zip lock bags on the top of the rucksack under the flap along with the most important item of them all which you forgot and most grunts do is toilet paper or the best thing is baby wipes.Good to know if you get the G.I. shits out in the field.Also dont forget the 550 cords,steal them from supply along with 100 MPH tape.
@mrpopinfresh-w6h
@mrpopinfresh-w6h 9 месяцев назад
turn yak stuff sack upside down it will run the water out and not get water to puddle up on the bag it can make its way in. but not out if its upside down with the open end facing down the water can just run out if water happens to get inside. Australian army tip
@ArmyStinger150
@ArmyStinger150 11 лет назад
Just wondering why you used the Gerber pouch instead of the USGI entrenching tool pouch. It seems awkward and not wholy secure with the Gerber pouch. I've never seen the Spagetti straps for the sleeping bag before. Never in 13 years in the Army, those would come in handy. Well done video, wouldn't the medium MOLLE pack be just as good and as inexpensive now...plus the availability of MOLLE pouches makes ALICE clips obsolete.
@collectornick4270
@collectornick4270 6 лет назад
ArmyStinger150 the "spaghetti straps" are M-1956 sleeping bag carrier, the US used these from the early 60's till about the mid 70's
@wasupbigchief
@wasupbigchief 12 лет назад
I feel more confident concerning my previous purchase of my medium ALICE pack(s). Thanks - I enjoyed your video.
@tylerjackson8510
@tylerjackson8510 12 лет назад
A Future report will indicate that in fact it was none of the above.......do what you know is best now. Id disagree with you as ive done heavy low and it killed me......then again we could all be doing it wrong. Then Again there could be better packs than the Alice for easy of use. Then again that bag probably wouldn't be made to withstand combat conditions for prolonged periods. Then again.........what gave you the impression that the military Cared for its troops?
@TheKellHammer
@TheKellHammer 12 лет назад
Some guys always wanna knock the ALICE pack, but thats non-sense. I know sf guys, tons of infantrymen, marines, and they ALL will swear by the ALICE ruck pack! Ive never used anything else! My brother has, however and hes been in afganistan and when he was first re-assigned from Bragg the new pack he was issued was a MOLLE and he HATES it!I just ordered him to ALICE packs,one for his personal use, and the other Im sending to him in Afganistan.I think some of you are getting commsions for MOLLE!
@nacholibre1962
@nacholibre1962 9 лет назад
Outdated gear and shady info. Thanks goodness we've moved on from the 80's! That sleeping system is ridiculous! My sleeping bag fits in my hand and my sleeping mat is the size of a quart Nalgene water bottle. They both go inside my pack with everything else.
@wanderingcalamity360
@wanderingcalamity360 8 лет назад
What do you use?
@nacholibre1962
@nacholibre1962 8 лет назад
+Wesley Wallner Karrimor SF Saber 45 pack with 12.5 liter detachable side pouches. Sea-to-summit or Snugpak sleeping bag. Thermorest NeoAir Xtherm sleeping mat. Four liters of water. Thee days of food. Spare ammo. Spare clothing. Rain suit. Mess kit. Lights. Comms. Personal kit. Done.
@wanderingcalamity360
@wanderingcalamity360 8 лет назад
Cool.
@operator951
@operator951 8 лет назад
+Albert Head Completely wrong. Many Infantryman still use the ALICE (by personal choice) and the info is very solid.
@operator951
@operator951 8 лет назад
***** You failed to understand the context of my response. Context being current Light Infantry equipment and SOP's Which is the context of this video. I rebutted, stating that the gear nor the info was outdated or shady. If we are talking in context of what the most effective equipment is, I think we can all come to the conclusion that the Alice pack is quite outdated and there is much more ergonomic and comfortable set ups out there.
@tylerjackson8510
@tylerjackson8510 11 лет назад
Thanks, im aware that thats what the bag is used for, Im not confused about the Actual use of the bag, im confused on why ....(.and I have a hard time not laughing) poopshootlicker is saying that he used the bag wrong...? its a wet weather bag for keeping things dry.....hes saying you should turn it in side out? thats what im confused on. Thanks though!
@Grond76
@Grond76 3 года назад
Jeepers. Its certainly a way of doing it, but it ain't too flash. Couple of points: 1. The sleeping bag sack is effectively useless at keeping the bag dry. Biff it, and shove your sleeping bag in your pack liner, pushing it into the corners of the bottom of the pack. 2. The gigantic tarp is okay, I guess, but a poncho or hootchie will work better (or any 2x3m waterproof sheet with cords). Fold & put in the space between frame and back pad, using some thin bungie cord to hold it in. 3. Biff the spare t-shirt, accept that you're going to get smelly. 4. Biff the MRE heaters, get a gas cooker and break those suckers down into a single bag. Biff all non-essential items. 5. Gore tex trousers are wank unless static. Put them in the top flap of your pack. 6. Randomly stuff the GT jacket into the pouch, shoving it down and in with your thumbs. Leaving a big bit sticking out and cranking the pouch strap down is naff as all fuck. 7. Cut down the sleeping mat and fold, so it will fit more neatly under the top flap (or at the bottom of) your pack. 8. Remove E-tool from the outside of the pack & shove into the bottom, under or beside the sleeping bag. 9. A class kit (NVE, binos, etc.) goes in an outer pouch, not deep in your pack- your 2IC will thank you when he's doing his checks. In general, this is how a pogue packs an ALICE. She's human as you are, treat her as such, and she'll accept anything with vigorous fisting and loving tenderness.
@raymonddunn665
@raymonddunn665 5 лет назад
I'm sorry but, that whole thing is packed goofy. Humped one of those for 15 years...a lot differently. Went to a cfp90...'cause I carry a lot of gear. Try the Glock entrenching tool - 1/3 the weight and you get a saw. Unpackage the MREs and distribute them in your cargo pockets of your BDUs. Anyway, to each their own. Carry on.
@Confedyank
@Confedyank 11 лет назад
70+ lbs pack vs 12 lbs head, which one wins?
@Stormcloakvictory
@Stormcloakvictory 2 года назад
No longer affordable and available :( Definitely in Europe. Should've gotten the one's I saw for €60 a few years back. Now they're sometimes almost as expensive as also good new backpacks.
@Littlecrewmember
@Littlecrewmember 11 лет назад
i mean, here in UK we are mixed... we use miles but some use Kilometers.. so i was wondering if america/canada use Litres to count the size of the rucksack? eg: iv got a 25l 45l and a 80l
@thetacticalape8852
@thetacticalape8852 3 года назад
Just no. MREs should be field stripped poncho and map in flap. Canteens and magazine pouches attach from LBE. Where are the extra uniform and pair of boots? Clothing should be in wet weather bag inside ruck, and sleep system should also be in wet weather bag.
@leadpelletinass
@leadpelletinass 11 лет назад
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I seen him flip that lightly loaded pack over his head.
@ChiaYang-q8x
@ChiaYang-q8x 7 месяцев назад
You look almost like my Drill Sergeant from Camp Pendleton...All Gave Some and Some Gave All.. ahhhhhhhhhhh
@zaynevanbommel5983
@zaynevanbommel5983 Год назад
Never EVER pack stuff on the outside of the Pack like a Christmas Tree when patrolling everything on the outside catches on everything but packing your pack like this is fine if you are a camp soldier
@CreachterZ
@CreachterZ 7 месяцев назад
This is completely backwards. Heavier items should always be lower and lighter items up high. This lets your legs carry the load.
@13thBear
@13thBear 2 года назад
The thing about shooting a Trex is that I would never ever go to a Jurassic Park because a Trex isn’t the only dinosaur you’d have to worry about killing if the scheisse went south! There would be too many things with big teeth on legs and too many big things to step on you and odds are some of them would get you before you expended your ammo load out! Best to stay home safe and warm and let somebody else deal with the Dino’s.
@canadianknifeExpert
@canadianknifeExpert 11 лет назад
I can only speak for canada and in my experience we usually use litres(36L,75L, ect)
@nickalarz
@nickalarz 12 лет назад
they forgot one important step. CALL YOUR CHIROPRACTOR!
@matzmonkey88
@matzmonkey88 12 лет назад
that's is one thing I love about my ALICE pack is all the I guess MOLLE straps?
@MrGFYne1337357
@MrGFYne1337357 7 лет назад
rolling stuff creats a lager volume, keeping stuff flat is better. Just saying. I've used the alice pack for more than 11 years
@smh9902
@smh9902 6 лет назад
Volume is constant. All rolling does is change the shape.
@hotlead368
@hotlead368 5 лет назад
@@smh9902 ...and create voids between items because they're round, Mr GFY is correct.
@johnwarren35
@johnwarren35 12 лет назад
we just used the sinch straps to tie down our bivy sacks to the top and boot bands for the iso mats on the bottom.
@jamesmccann355
@jamesmccann355 6 лет назад
Great stuff guys. All the way from the U.K.
@richardthick.2888
@richardthick.2888 7 лет назад
Is this a joke or is it for paintball gamers. Maybe I'll follow this video if I ever want to LARP as a loser nube.
@Inviting1word
@Inviting1word 6 лет назад
Thanks brother.
@tylerjackson8510
@tylerjackson8510 12 лет назад
so its Still water proof? .....not sure im understanding how it was "Wrong".....its a water proof bag......turn it however you want and its still water proof.....
@knightmaher1
@knightmaher1 6 лет назад
that sleeping bag looks like utter cancer to use
@hotlead368
@hotlead368 5 лет назад
...at least to hump the way they have it, it is.
@hollywoodghostbusters9869
@hollywoodghostbusters9869 8 лет назад
glad I came across this video. been trying to figure out what to pack in my A.L.I.C.E. pack for Airsoft games. thanks
@kevinjacks1258
@kevinjacks1258 8 лет назад
Pussy
@Sakitsunebi
@Sakitsunebi 8 лет назад
Airsoft seems like a good way to practice tactics in my opinion. If your ex military or law enforcement (or even current), seems like a good way to stay sharp in a non-lethal way. Especially if you carry real GI loads.
@MK-tg1hx
@MK-tg1hx 7 лет назад
It is. There are events that are 48 hours long which require both a rucksack and your A bag on top of your 1st and 2nd line stuff. They are very fun and veteran owned/operated/veteran played.
@benjamingreen9655
@benjamingreen9655 Год назад
Is it by choice to store the Bed roll on the bottom vs the top? I've been looking for a SOP and can't get a straight answer lol
@drcsep
@drcsep 9 лет назад
Outstanding informative video. Thank you sir
@epicwwiistuff6863
@epicwwiistuff6863 3 года назад
Why can't you just carry a 2 quart canteen? It saves space and holds the same amount of water...
@amrasurvivalchannel2708
@amrasurvivalchannel2708 9 лет назад
great video thanks for sharing always learning
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