There is calcium prills in the mix to act as an accelerator So the stuff is burning as soon as it comes out of the mixer So as soon as we are done installing it we start filling with water Water filling is non stop (continuous) until completely full Hope this helps you out
it is not the widely preferred method...meaning there is no demolition...but I have seen this done in a few rare occasions where a plaster surface was placed on top of a pebble finish and it did work...plaster was able to stick to the pebble finish just fine
Dawg you spend to much time doing prep work. Pool should be spic and span when you get there. Clean pool the day before, it will make you and your crews life much easier.
hello thank you for writing in for the type of job pictured in the video the plastering process is the waterproofing process when we want to use a membrane sealer we will usually use thoroseal it is a 3M product and available most places hope this helps
This sounds like a potential add mix product to plaster There is a 3M product that we use called quartz Scapes but that is used for finishing the pools For example an alternative to plaster Pebble or glass finish would be a quartz finish Alternatively I believe there are some quartz additives that can be added to a white cement white sand plaster job and these products are sold as some sort of hardener or increasing the bond strength type of thing My experience is that these products are garbage and there really is no alternative for high-quality building materials and good workmanship but that is just my opinion
@@rolandchiong5424 no sir the quartz products that i am familiar with are from 3M company...i did look it up and it looks to be a quartz color additive...what type of finish are you going for?..do you know? plaster hydrazzo pebble glass regular plaster w/ color (like in this video) quartz these are all popular and widely used methods and materials to use when finishing your pool surface
Haha I love the cadence this guy has in speaking! I want him to do another video with same style and cadence, only on how to bathe and diaper an infant. That would be hilarious!
ru-vid.com/show-UClkRDVdMaG0A2w7HQTsFiDg hey brother this is another channel that i work on and there are some pretty funny prank videos there if you want to check those out
So we have sparred enough but serious question my gunite pool was clearly well built (before me) it was put in some time after 1986 and not any cracks but it is discolored in places so I coated with 2 part epoxy paint and reapplied after 4-5 years. It’s just fine but really prefer the plaster. What do you think about the roll on replaster products vs what you are doing here?
the products you are mentioning will usually have bonding issues over time the chip out process is to both remove the old plaster as well as create a rough surface for the new plaster to stick to there is a product out there called "remuc" ??...not sure of the spelling...and this is an epoxy type product that rolls on to a pools surface
Great video, my new build is shot and ready for plaster. Waiting for spring, I’d like to send you some photos of my surface to see you you believe it’s in the condition needed to accept the plaster. In a previous post you mentioned your email address is in the about page I didn’t see it. Thanks!
Thanks for the videos and the humor. I have already demoed my pool and getting ready to replaster. Any chance you can tell me what is the correct mix of cement and type of sand needed so I can mix myself. I am in Hawaii so it costs a lot to have someone come do it and we don’t have a lot of money. Thanks in advance.
i believe it is 2 bags of sand to 1 cement ...we us white sand and white cement also called marble dust ...hope this helps ....where ever you source your materials could also help you with your mixes for your region
Hello A 20x40 pool is a larger pool You should check with your materials supplier and your batch mixer size for the correct amount of pigment for each batch And then make sure to be consistent with those measurements throughout your job Hope this is helpful 👍
Does grout go on the bottom of the waterline tile, then the plaster meets the grout line? Or does the plaster go all the way up to meet with the bottom of the waterline tile and there is no grout? Thanks for the knowledge!
acidic water use lots of muriatic acid to drop the ph and burn the calcium dust from the surface its referred to as an acid start up and your pool contractor should know something about this method its been around for a while you can also check with national plaster council for more information
Informative video...thank you. Liked it all except for the use of profanity on your cap and between workers. Not sure what that had to do with the subject at hand.
thank you for writing in and for taking a look at our work this channel has already been identified to RU-vid and the Federal Government 'COPPA' agreement that our content is not suitable for children for instances such as that 2 reasons this is what it is really like to be out in the field with me and my men...and we really do not edit that much and self expression this is who i really am and who my men really are we are not fake and we are certainly not trying to live with other peoples rules on us although i am sorry you were offended this is us and we do not edit our character
That would not be a diesel pusher. A diesel pusher has the motor in the back hence the motor is pushing a truck with the motor in the front would be a puller
the work shown in this video should be done with a truck and experienced guys for job quality and job safety reasons there is "hand pack" method/technique where you can use a mixer and wheel barrows you will need more time and more men for this and it is more difficult but the swimming pool industry has a history of this type of construction as well good luck
great video would have like to see pool with water in it. 20 grit finished seems rough. all 3 layers applied same day. with the gunite left so rough especially the steps the plaster finish would seem to be over an inch thick to cover the gunite? how long does replastering last as my pool is 25 years old with no replastering just a few stains but now top step is starting to come loose. i was thinking of patching the top step and painting all steps. thanks
Depends on your material selection and your geographic location and obviously who you are working with but these are industry standard pricings I'm relating to you
My dad does pool finishes and I started going with him because My whole family since my grand father does this! I really wanna learn how to trowel because I don’t want to be the tile cleaning guy anymore 😂😂😂
Same for me . I'm the third generation in the business. I was 10 doing floors,didn't finish them cause I couldn't hang but understood the concept. Crazy how you never know who's life is similar to yours or same life style until you ready a comment in RU-vid lol
I guess am old school I prefer throwing it on by hand. We usually don't have a lot of help and we take on holes that normally have twice as many finishers. Y'all are doing a great job. Take care.
I believe Lehigh white sand and white cement is commonly used You can check at your local swimming pool supply what's available It's a blend of white sand and white cement and an accelerator of calcium prills and it's mixed and blended specific for each job on site as you see in the video
Hi there, do you guys work in Phoenix Az? Or have anyone for recommendations thank you I’m thinking of doing this to my pool It’s time Been close to 20 years now I want to do it right
there are a few different ways this could go scratch coat / no demo / old plaster stays = plaster 1 coat los angeles area/region full demo and haul away of old plaster usually 2 // sometimes 3 coats all applied at the same time from same batch mixer etc.. look into your region and what is a normal building practice east coast//southern//western//europe overseas etc..
each color is a different ratio , this was 2 bottles per batch and i believe that each batch is usually 1 to 1 with sand and cement I can recommend to check with wherever you purchase your materials to confirm what the ratios will be for your color mix
Try to do a Google search for a local building supply or building materials yard close to you Swimming pool plaster is a blend of white sand and white cement and usually an accelerator like calcium prills The brand names could vary by region or by location
You should be able to go to at local pool store or perhaps on your Amazon search get yourself a small bucket of plaster patch you will still have to mix it but it will be at least the correct material for yourself 👍
The national plaster council recommends replastering your pool every 7 years but I don't have any clients that maintain that usually it's every 10 to 15 years or so and during that lifespan you can acid wash the pool two to three times to extend the life and the durability and the aesthetics
Depends on your region But probably 4.5- 6 k This pool the customer requested some coloring and that usually sells for about $500 to $750 more and that is depending on the size of the pool
Your job will likely fall within the price range I provided if you like to send us some pictures you can find my email address under the about tab on my channel page
thank you for writing in...this can be any stain-out product or metal-out type product...this is to aid in keeping the plaster pure I think in the video I held up "hasa super stain out" this is a popular and inexpensive product however it can be anything along these lines hope this helps stay real out there!
What u see here is a chipped pool with plaster applied The clipping is the demo and Scratch coat In regions where clipping plaster is not widely done Like colder Regions Virginia No clipping Scratch coat Then plaster For example But not usually both Thanks for writing in
@@UltimatePoolGuy I'm in Washington state. 2020 we hit 49th on top50 service PSN/Jandy. I've been saving up to buy a Hydrojet 40k trailer to keep my clients and sub out my plaster. We do cures already, maintenance, repairs. We are a 2 person crew as well. But licensed as general contractor. I like you cool calm voice makes watching your experience better. Thanks for that too.
Hi I love your work I'm into the same thing. I have a question. If a pool has rubberized pool paint how would you go about removing it to resurface with diamond brite?
there is no bond coat or base coat in this process this is white plaster / white sand and white cement applied to a fully demoed concrete structure pool
The guys go around into the first coat and by the time the batch mixer is done preparing the next round they start once again I'm not sure if there's any fixed time limit but it's not sitting around and waiting the stuff has accelerant the calcium pills so it's burning so it's more fast than it is slow
@@UltimatePoolGuy awesome thanks for your help also how much should i expect to pay for a pool with 18,000 gallons i got qouted at 15k and 9k and 6k from 3 different companies all of them using the same products.
im not sure if there is a set 'time' but there is some time in between batches for set strength and cure time ive never seen anybody time this process but there are pauses between each batch for application, set strength and cure time thank you for writing in and for your comments
You mentioned “ we put black paint on any exposed rebar or any other area concerning rust”. Is that any type of regular black paint ? I’ve heard of that if there is exposed rebar. Cutting it out and filling it with mud. What’s your thoughts ?
if the areas are bad enough repairs are made where we will cut the bad stuff out and mend in new rebar pieces on a lower level simply putting paint on affected areas that are lesser and no repair is needed a high quality paint that advertises rust protections is usually what we are using hope that this helps
Full chip out requires no bond coat Only if you're layering plaster layers on top of each other which is a regional thing usually East Coast or Southern regions of the US We are located from Los Angeles California and what you see in this video are the normal practices for this region
@@UltimatePoolGuy no doubt man. Your videos are fire. I just drained my pool and took the toile off and about to acid wash and power wash tomorrow and plaster that bitch. Any plaster recommendations for 20k pool diy? Greatly appreciate it.
Yessssir crows are good luck and known for bringing Good Financial Fortune Im Native American but only half...the bottom half... from the waist down Everyday I smoke the peace pipe
Your guys are good Mike. Being able to finish a pool properly that is half shaded takes a lot of skill and timing. We used to set up A frames and a tent . To buy us more time and have a consistent setting time. Have your guys ever used tents? I love the glass tile on this pool. 😍
We use calcium prills In the mix so it's burning I'm not sure if this is consistent with other parts of the United States but this is how we get 2 plaster jobs done per day 👍
here is a video we did on shotcrete maybe this helps with a better understanding of the steps involved ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IE-fyJukXfk.html
@@UltimatePoolGuy wow. U answered! 😊 Thank you. May I know what's the components of plastering and what's best ratio for it. In the Philippinew it's not common to use this. Thank you very much
Oh I see I think for field technicians anything below the 7 range is "buried or "negative as its below the accepted threshold for swimming Is where I got that Thanks for writing in ... And for the science lesson
If you are doing white Plaster no pigmentation is needed if you are doing French gray it is common to use black pigmentation We get our colors from SCP which is a local wholesaler to swimming pool contractor whoever is doing your plaster job should not only be able to provide you samples but also be able to Source the material to execute the work
UltimatePoolGuy I'm doing it myself. It seems like the plaster formulation is a trade secret (which I totally understand) and the supplies are only available to licensed contractors. I can't even special order white cement from my local hardware stores in anything other than craft sizes. This is my second time plastering a pool and I think I've learned a lot just by trial and error. The first pool I tinted my plaster with rit dye and it faded to almost white. I have a new plan for this next pool & I'll let you know how it comes out. Thank you so much for your help! 💜
3 days into my replaster & it looks so bomb!! So far I'm very happy with the mad scientist colorant that I used. My hands are so swollen I can't make a fist though. Lol
@@katykab00m thats great to hear and thank you very much for the update!...you are a brave soul for taking on such a project...feel free to send us a picture or pictures if you like: ultimatepoolguy@gmail.com
Hi Mike, I am helping some friends in the UK restore an old concrete pool. We have screeded the floor and I have rendered the walls with a sand, cement and SBR mix. We were going to paint the pool but I'm wondering whether a pool plaster finish would be better. We'd like a blue colour if possible but that's not essential. Whatever we will have to do it ourselves. Will pool plaster be a better option than paint please?
yes a masonry product will always be superior to any painted surface most pool paints are rubber or lead based and will rapidly deteriorate with chlorine and acid (detergent and corrosive) however there are some regions around the world where a painted surface or a vinyl liner pool is widely used and normal and in those regions a painted pool would be recommended for your application if you can tolerate working with plaster i would recommend that if it unreasonable to consider that or financially out of reach then move forward with a painted surface pool and enjoy the pool area hope that this helps
@@UltimatePoolGuy Thanks very much Mike. We're about 52 degrees north here in South Wales. I'm guessing that means we'd really be better off plastering the pool if we can do it well but failing that could get away with some sort of pool paint. I'm leaning towards plastering if we can do it well. Sider-Crete is a roll on and squeegee smooth plaster apparently. Can you recommend an alternative which might be available in the UK? We can mix our own if we know what to use but the problem may be finding an aggregate that is fine enough to roller on
We might be able to help you out there we have taken drops out in the 909 before if you like to send me an email letting me know the scope of work you are looking for please Ultimatepoolguy@gmail.com
My spa/pool combo was white plastered on the same day in late October 2019. Both were filled in less than 24 hrs. The water balance has been perfect. On day 12, my spa began leaking from the light. The silicone repair didn't work. The plumbers came and pressure-checked the system and everything checked-out okay. The electrician came and properly repaired the light fixture 10 days later. The problem is that the spa was at various levels of empty and the plasterer said it takes 30 days to cure. (The builder said it's cures in only 14 days.) Cracks formed from the tile line down to, and along the bench seats, obviously from drying-out (air was low to mid 70s, during the day and 50-60s at night with low humidity.) I ran into a different plaster guy who said that if those cracks don't dissappear, due to re-hydration, you should make them re-plaster it. IS THIS CORRECT? After 3 days, with my mask and snorkel, I can still see faint, hairline cracks. I haven't paid any money, yet. I'm going to re-inspect it after this weekend. The plaster company's owner, who's a certified plasterer, came by and said it was okay, while I was not there. I don't know who to trust, and I don't want to have comprimised spa plaster with a shortened life because it cured too fast. And, I'm sure the builder doesn't want to pay to re-plaster the pool. WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND, PLEASE? THANKS!
hello thank you for writing in is your issue with the leak at the spa light? or the spider cracking seen throughout the work? and what sounds like general inconsistencies with the work thank you
@@UltimatePoolGuy Spa's not leaking anymore. My concern is that the plaster life-expectancy has been shortened due to it not being completely filled up for 7-12 days. Do you think the plaster has been degraded? And is it true that if the cracks don't disappear, it should be redone? Thanks.
There really is no guideline about what should or should not happen the language with the Contractors State Board is defects associated with workmanship or material that were foreseeable at the time the work was performed ☝️ that is going to be the language that allows for legal recourse as well as identifying work that needs to be redone It is common knowledge and widely accepted that pools that receive finish work need to be filled immediately that applies even to pools that get a high-end finish such as Pebble or glass they get acid washed the following day and are still filled with water within 24 hours of the work being performed If your project went 7 to 12 days without any attempt at being filled with water I think you then have legal recourse using the aforementioned language
So if you are unhappy with the finished product and feel as though the work has been jeopardized you want to use the language that this was poor workmanship or a defect in the material that was foreseeable at the time that work was performed I hope this is helpful and please keep me updated or let me know if more information is needed
