DTE does NOT reduce the attack to 100. If you use that card as the energy discard requirement, It's not attached to the attacking pokemon at the time of the attack
So I thought so to because thats how those effects used to work but apparently they updated the rules for those types of moves. Thats why there's so much confusion.
So, this is a bit contentious. The online game does not reduce damage due to DTE. I believe this is because there are two effect steps when resolving an attack… 1) Effects that alter the success of an attack are applied (DTE does NOT alter the success of the attack and thus is not counted on the first effect check)…then later after all conditions to use the attack are applied..ie discarding DTE, the second effect check occurs which checks for effects that alter damage dealt. When reading the official rules, that’s what I am seeing. The effect check that would apply occurs after all conditions in order to use the attack are completed…and by that time, the DTE is long gone. Additionally, the damage calculation step per the rules comes after the DTE is discarded as a requirement to use the attack (see step 5 of the advanced rules on attacking - calculating damage…which directly references “effects of energies on calculating damage…). It might help to think of the first effects check as the “status effect check” such as burned, confusion…etc. The second effect check looks at effects that alter damage directly.
At 10:50 Why didn't you take a Froslass with Irida and an ultra ball to take the second one? The double turbo energy allows 120 damage because you discard it due to the effect of the attack before you do the damage. This is what a judge told me when I was playing ninja
I mentioned in my commentary that I messed up not getting the Froslass! for double turbo energy the judges that I asked have mentioned that the attack and effect goes off first before you discard therefore it does subtract the damages, I am not saying that the judge you asked was wrong but this needs to be asked by maybe a higher up judge
starting pokemon trading card with some friends. coming from yugioh. Do you think this deck is fine for beginner? Just saw a Greninja deck 123rd lace on NAIC New Orleans. But slidely diffrent list than yours
Could you make a discord server for easier chat and and deck building channels? I really need to understand why all those energy searches are there while only 5 energy. Also, 3 arven and 3 irida is crazy in my opinion, with greninjas first attack you can find any card, so I prefer 4 irida 2 arven 😅
Been trying since you released your deck list but it feels really inconsistent to me which is a shame because I’ve always wanted Greninja to be in the spotlight since Greninja break
@@royalillest in my experience you really gotta abuse DTE against Gardi. Snipe their Kirlias, munkidoris and other Pokemon to stop them from setting up. Gardi is why Greninja needs a secondary attacker, it really cannot take down Gardi.
I think TCG live has issues with the double turbo damage / discard order. I've used the double turbo with well spring ogerpon and the effect does full damage after discarding. Not sure if their text is different.
Hey uhhhh u meant to get the froslass with the irida and u said u accidentally picked snorunt y'know u can put back the one of the cards u already picked
@@royalillestWhich deck do you recommend beginners to hit Arceus? I just started 6 days ago and got masterball with Charizard and Shaymin with Greninja 😅
Its actually incredible how many times this comes up. Official rules state to apply all effects that altar the attack first, then damage. It should be 120 dmg.
I just started playing pokemon cards for couple a weeks now. Still in the beginning stages. I built my deck from this video and been playing at my local card shops as “beginner”. When I played radiant tsareena, they are telling me that the card would have to be in the active spot for me to use the ability. Is that true or can you use the ability on the bench?
Thank you! Appreciate the videos you make!! This deck I played after your video helped me win 3 straight games and the I lost to a dang dipplin 😅😕. Looking forward for more videos!!!
