So technically correct but that's not the whole story here. Both Hey You & Pig (Three Different Ones) Roger has already played the and constructed the baselines. Especially on Pig (three different ones) where Gilmour himself said that during the recordings Roger just reversed the role in the studio and recorded the rhythm guitars and let David record the bass. Although during the concerts Roger was already playing the bass during the DSTOM concert when the song was in the developing stage. Same goes for Hey You, where Roger just left David to play and record in the studios. This also clearly shows that Roger in his own rights careless about who would finish the job as long as its done according to his demos shared with the band. And for Hey You, David said once I finished recording the my guitar parts so picked up the bass and recorded the entire song as he would do it more quicker than Roger - who would take more time. One of the reasons David got the credits for Hey You.
Waters vintage tone actually was quite trebley… at least live. Most likely fresh flat wounds every show or something like that. He didn’t go “tone rolled off” until he started playing solo. Especially live, his tone is much different than back in the Floyd days. I used to listen to many old bootlegs from way back then.
Roger inspired me because he wasn't a virtuoso on the bass. If he can do it, so can I. How about doing one on Jamie Stewart (formerly) of The Cult? He did play on their classic 80's albums.
6:05 David Gilmour is credited with fretless bass on "Hey You". I would have instead highlighted the bass intro of "Let There Be More Light". Roger's playing was a bit more adventurous on their early albums.
@@MrFrankHolliday Well, I own The Wall physically on CD and it credits Gilmour with bass guitar, albeit without specifying which tracks. What about later album credits? "Hey You" has been featured on some compilations. Furthermore, we've seen examples in the past of musicians going uncredited for instrumental parts they played. What we do know for sure is that the song in question features a fretless bass. Gilmour was asked about this in a 1992 interview with Rock Compact Disc magazine: Did you play the fretless bass on "Hey You"? 'Yeah. Hmm. Roger playing fretless bass? Please! (laughs)'
@@semi-decentmontages7906 you've been sleeping under a rock then, he played on pigs, confortbly numb, one of these days, young lust, potentially alot of dark side aswell. Guy pratt as a bassist is way better in every way (listen to pulse) then waters so I don't know how you can say waters is better. Look at the list of people he's played with
I’ve been asking for Roger for awhile so I’m definitely happy to see a video on him, he’s definitely one of my favourite bassists and is a fantastic musician and songwriter
Apart from David Gilmour, I have never really been struck by the the musicianship of the others. I have never disliked them, but never thought of them as outstanding musicians. However, years ago I was walking in the street and heard in the distance a Pink Floyd cover band playing. The drummer was hitting hard with no dynamics, terribly flatting the song. That helped me understand that if Pink Floyd songs are so nice, it is also thanks to the fact that Mason, Waters and Wright knew perfectly what to play and what NOT to play. So, I completely agree with your assessment.
Yeah, there's plenty of flashy music which I love, but there's some simpler music which I also love. I would describe much of my favorite music as: complex enough to be interesting, but simple enough that you don't need a Ph.D. to enjoy it. I hear that in a lot of Pink Floyd's music.
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Atom heart mother: the bass line between 3:40 and 4:20 and again between 20:10 and 21:05 is sublime and always catch me. Maybe the best job from Waters.
I love the story that Roger and Nick had to record the bass and drums in one epic, continuous 23 minute take because EMI were reluctant to let them cut the quarter inch master tape 🤯
This video is less than 7 minutes long, so I don't know how to listen to the second pair of time stamps which you cite. The first pair of time stamps features "Echoes," not "Atom Heart Mother."
I love this series. Great job with this Paul. I love how you emphasized how he does what a bass player should and plays to the song. Nothing flashy, just a P bass and solid playing. It's playing like his that attracted me to the bass in the first place. Looking forward to the next episode. Maybe one on Adam Clayton.
It is interesting to think of Roger Waters as merely a bass player. He is the mind and genius behind Pink Floyd’s best work Although I am surprised to hear that Gilmour played bass in the studio besides “hey you.” What albums or tracks did Gimour play on??
If I recall correctly, Gilmour added a bass part on One Of These Days, him with roundwound stringed bass (the bright percussive one that stands out) and Roger with his usual flatwounds. On Pigs Roger played rhythm guitar and Dave did the whole track on fretless. There were a few more I can't remember, but apparently Gilmour stepped in occasionally but almost regularly from Wish You Were Here (album) onwards.
Gilmour also played bass on "Young Lust", "Sheep" and "Fat Old Sun" (on the latter Gilmour played every instrument except organs which was done by Wright).
@@kennet7837 Kind of like Billy Corgan playing a lot of the bass parts in smashing pumpkins instead of bassist Darcy Wretzky on studio albums. I’m sure Roger could have played those parts but Gilmour could track them faster.
Thanks for the video. Roger was a solid bass player, what he did was often simple but structural and fit so well the band. Gilmour though apparently reproached him, in the later years in Pink Floyd, of not working and improving on his instrument more, as Roger probably focused more on other things (lyrics, business, artistic leadership, private life ...). One Of These Days, Pigs, Hey You and a few other tracks had Dave contribute a more musical bass part. It's curious, since Roger had such melodic "à la McCartney" inventive basslines in the early years. I suppose after Syd's era the band's material called for a different approach and he probably felt being more of a singer-songwriter than a crafty musician.
@@MrFrankHolliday I'm sorry but you're misunderstanding, It is not about Gilmour/Waters factions or Pink Floyd's overall sound. The video is about Waters' bass playing in Pink Floyd, the comments about when Gilmour recorded a bass part are mostly from other bass players who are fascinated by history and technique of these songs. It is interesting that some memorable parts were not recorded by Roger himself, that's all. My own comment is not intended as diminutive of his playing and role in the band either. He played magnificently on "See Emily Play", was rock-solid live at Pompeii, on Animals he preferred to track rhythm guitar on some songs instead of bass. That's fine and fascinating. I'm well aware of his wide artistic visions, the guidance he tried to give the band during uncertain times and how interested he was in sounds (screeching vocals, synths, soundscapes, ... ). He's a all-round artist whereas Gilmour is mainly an accomplished guitar player. The fact that David tracked some bass parts does not exclude Roger from the picture, despite the differences they worked together and they surely decided together how to arrange the song and which sounds to look for. About 80's Pink Floyd, it's clearly a different beast but since the subject here is Roger as bass player, I was referring only to the period he was in the band. And again, not commenting the whole band's sound and direction. I'm sorry that my comment gave you the wrong impression, I'm a Pink Floyd fan that learned to play bass listening to Roger play. And I'm in no faction game that the band's fan community seems to exceed in. All the best and cheers from Switzerland!
Great video ! But why you don"t talk to all the hammer which roger do ? I think it's the biggest signature of waters but nobody talks to this, and it's weird because roger do hammer really often in the pink floyd's songs and we can hear that easily... For example "Atom Heart Mother". It must be the better example
There are some Floyd recordings with 2 bass guitars. "One of these Days" has 2 bass guitars going at the same time. One was performed by Rog while the other was performed by Dave. Together they made a really cool sound. At the end of "Pigs (3 Different Ones), there are 2 bass guitars going. I believe that the lower one which anchors down the chords was performed by Rog. The higher bass guitar part which accents everything with broken octaves was performed by Dave.
I'd push back a bit on the 'standard P-bass tone'. Waters often used a much more 'present'/bright tone than that might imply, also his use of modulations and delays puts that description out of mind for me. Personally, I'm very fond of his playing on Animals - at the time where one UK music magazine or other wrote them off as 'Punk Floyd'... which I actually think was something of a backhanded compliment. Without Waters' bass on that album it's hard to imagine PiL, Magazine, Joy Division, Fields of the Nephilim, or The Sisters of Mercy. But Waters can also do that old-school, flatwound-sounding/muted goodness. I love how that comes out on Piper At The Gates of Dawn.... and then is promptly replaced by Let There Be More Light on the opening of Saucerful Of Secrets which feels much brighter and got ripped off by Placebo :)
That is a lie, Sorry, but I think Andrew Lloyd Weber does not need to stole anything...... If you were musician, you would understand that both melodic lines are absolutely different. Clearly you aren't.
@@RicardoRivera-rv2me The bass line in Echoes contains an descending/ascending chromatic line that is virtually exactly like Phantom Of The Opera, albeit in a different key. When the Floyd played Echoes live, the guitar often did it too, eschewing the more complex line that the guitar plays on the recorded version. Roger has accused Weber of stealing it for Phantom, although as far as I know he's never taken action over it. For my part, I doubt that Weber actually stole it, it's just a coincidence.
