Shen support player here! Additional tip, regarding runes: currently, for unexplained reasons, the Guardian rune will proc on allies from anywhere in the map when you ult them during combat, doesn't matter if you're bot and they're in top, it will proc. Very good rune if you want to combo shields to give allies a second health bar, as you can ult them + proc guardian + use solari!
This is super nifty, I really think guardian is a super solid pick also and this makes it an even more solid pick. Thanks for this additional insight, Bruno!
@@Ater95 Definitely he'd get into a not desired situation. But he's still tanky so you should auto attack to save some energy and use it when E's cooldown finished.
I'm a fan of dark harvest/ignite on shen support. It's actually great in lower elos especially since your team will probably not be doing that much dmg
Ah yes, another off meta support to play. I have always played when I'm top and always knew there was Shen support but I didn't have an idea how to play. Thanks for the great analysis
Shen Supp is probably my most played off meta support, ever. I played it before his rework, and even more after it. Last season i made it to plat 1 by one tricking him. I climbed to d4 by playing Fiddle support, but i am certain that i would have been able to climb to diamond with Shen with more dedicated time.
He seems pretty strong! A lot of climbing in League of Legends is the time you have to put in to the game. I know now that I'm editing videos I don't have the dedicated time to climb anymore :P
i have been enjoying shen support for a time but building it differently and probably more redundant. thanks for the video, the tips and builds is really going to help!
I'm also a Shen sup but I play the champ a bit different, more on the aggressive side for early game since Shen is really strong on the first lvls, I prefer Predator as the main rune with Resolve secondary and more movement speed related items with lots of HP (variations of Armor and MR), I prefer playing with ADCs that have some mobility like Ezreal or Vayne (I duo with a Vayne OTP) so I can roam easier, It's kind of like a viable RiverShen play style but without the Exhaust/Ignite (flash is too important as a mechanic at this point imo). I've been liking Evenshroud a lot as a mythic lately and TP when my adc doesn't have mobility.
Shen Support player here... some things worth noting that haven't been mentioned in the top comments from awhile ago: 1. In hard matchups like vs. Cait or Ashe, VelKoz or Xerath... take the rune combo Guardian, Second Wind, and Revitalize. This makes it so that you sustain very easily in lane. Especially when using your passive with q, much of the time you can negate early game damage entirely with just his passive. So this is helful against Zyra who if abused correctly... you can actually use to heal you in lane since Second Wind only has a 2 second cooldown. Plus, as much as this Korean GM likes to run overgrowth (more HP means more hurtful taunts and bigger ult), Revitalize gives you far more value as it makes your passive shield larger, makes your healing from Second Wind better, makes your ults bigger, makes your Guardian bigger, and if running grasp helps it heal a little more too. Something to think about. 2. If you're in a lane that is HEAVY poke or an all-in kill lane, like pantheon support or something of the nature... it's better to take Q first and use it to just sustain in lane, help farm with relic shield, and it gives a bigger leash to your jgl. The bigger leash is accomplished by pulling your Q at 1:26 and then again the moment it comes up... this should allow you to give him 6 empowered q's in a row for a great leash and you still get to lane on time for minions and exp! 3. Steel Shoulder guards are only ideal if you're going to be fighting... A LOT (think tanky enemy team). In which case, I only take it if I plan on going Precision as my second rune tree, where I choose Alacrity and Redemption. This is because Redemption obviously after winning a skirmish or getting an assist you can be almost healed half or more on it alone (and it works with revitalize) and I take attack speed rune too because more auto's mean more damage and makes even things like taking objectives late game easier with attack speed.
I desperately need either an Taliyah or Galio video next! As much as imma go ahead and subscribe (my first and only subscription then!), when either of those drops!
I think overgrowth is not as good as revitalize bc shen has so many shields thx to his passive. Even second wind is not that good in every Lane. Bone plating is very strong in early fights
I agree that you can switch up that rune slot. Since runes are pulled directly from the player they're more of a jumping off point -- find what works best for you!
Generally speaking Overgrowth is preferred over Revitalize on Shen support because you have very limited income / have a lower base level than when playing Shen top. The extra health really comes into play as the game progresses.
Enjoyed these Shotgunned all the support vids as I main it and like the format and overall teaching method of the vids I’m falling stagnant or plateau in higher Silver after just play ranked for the first time this year an picking the game back up after 6 years. Though I’m sure you look to discord for suggestions I’d like to see a Nasus Support in the future as I’m seeing some RU-vidrs I like play it with ap and I wonder if there’s someone with high knowledge on it as one they use in their kit
Maybe try some of the harder carry champs like Xerath or Zyra to push you higher. Shen is great but has reliance on his team to succeed and win. I also look in comments for suggestions! Nasus support seems to be generating some interest and is very unique so this one may come sooner than you think. Thank you
Had a Draven who did like zero damage tell me Shen isnt a valid support I'm just like bro Shens abilities makes the enemy ADC completely useless for like 5 whole seconds in a team fight plus he has HUGE early game damage and/or CC depending on what path you choose. Imagine playing ADC and believing a support that can completely disable the enemy to grant you a free kill isnt a valid option... But of course that requires your ADC to actually pay attention instead of AFK farming minions for 5 hours.
Shen is a very good support. He has all the utility of Leona but with a global ultimate. The only downside to playing Shen support is that your goal is to keep your ADC alive. If your ADC is bad, then you have to roam and find someone else to support. I admittedly play for fun and get stuck with really bad ADC's who often times have no idea that if Shen engages and gets a taunt that means they are supposed to do damage and help out. If you are an ADC and you have an engage support, do your part and protect them when they engage.
Also, If you do your research, you'll find that Riot has Shen listed as a support in game and in lore. He can be a decent top lane, but Shen was created to be a support engage tank.
So far everything you explained is correct again brilliant video. Relic shield is slightly better than shoulderguards, cuz your ultimate and Q scales with AP Boots correct. Locket correct but not every game, except if enemy are AD or assasin heavy, you have to go for frostfire gauntlet, if CC heavy, then sunfire. But %80 of time locket is way to go Anatema's chains shouldn't be core item on shen, you have to pick this item if enemy has true damage dealers, 3+ AD or heavy damage dealers such as master yi or vayne or camille or fiora or irelia. Knights vow should be core item yes but as 6th item. You should get it last. Abyssal mask is much better second item on shen tbh especially if there is 2+ AP in enemy team. Thornmail, is a must item if they have healing. Randuin, force of nature, or gargoyle stoneplate is a very good pick if you decide to sell boots in very late game Plus, vigilant wardstone is not that beneficial on shen, vision is not priority, peeling for your teammates is your only job actually with shen support. Cuz of that you need to be tanky. Redemption, is also a good pick but not that often So full build "for most efficiency" should be: Relic shield + %80 of time locket solari (or situationally bami cinder mythics) + boots + abyssal mask + thornmail + knights vow. Anathema's chains are seriously situational pick on shen cuz you have ONE cc ability to make it barely shine while leona has 3 so u use it on leona as core item but on shen this is not core item, you can pick it instead of abyssal mask but as I said you need enemy to have 3+ AD, or 1-2 true damage dealers or heavy damage dealing bruisers / assassins to get the benefit of this item. (Which is damage reduction and more CC duration for them) So, runes: Aftershock, is an okay rune, but guardian is much, MUCH better with shen supp. Shied bash, core rune, must have Second wind, correct if you get poked in lane much (conditioning is better option) Overgrowth is best rune for shen As secondary, cheap shot is useless, cuz you don't deal damage, instead pick ghost poro, it provides so much more vision for you. Ultimate hunter correct. You need to spam ur ult as much as possible Alternative secondary: biscuits + cosmic insight (to spam locket more often) Against CC secondary: presence of mind + legend tenacity (to spam more passive shields while cc'd) Third runes: CDR + armor/mr + HP (correct) Flash ignite all the time, max Q first every time. Overall, nice guide, 8/10, I liked it.
Caner is back! I agree that there are many good tank support items that could fit in to support shen here, many of which you mentioned. I think we're always going to agree to disagree on wardstone. I think 95% of the time unless you're hard carrying your team you should always have a slot for wards / wardstone. I think people MAY also be overvaluing anathema's a lot right now, it's very meta and most high level players are really valuing the health, ability haste, and cheap price you can get it at as a core reason to keep buying it. But, I'm still not a true believe yet myself. As always thanks for your additional insight, Caner. Always appreciate your long comments
as shen otp with 1.7million pts aka (SHENTRICK) euw, I can say ur build is good but for the good adc's who know what they are doing. Sadly, since I dont care about climbing and im gold4, I dont trust adc's in gold elo so what i do is take frostfire with cheap tank items like abyssal, randuins etc. This will allow me to carry my team with good damage and potentially 1v1 with enemy adc. I have been playing shen since season 5 and i play him top and supp only and the problem i notice is when i ult my top laner or jungler, my adc keep ignorantly over extending for few minion which results in dying, so what i always do is to tell my adc to hug the tower or recall. Also, im still waiting for that camille supp video :D.
Thanks for the additional insight Abdullah! I like your build too it can definitely work! Currently have Camille support on my radar i promise to get to her soon 🔥
@@BCawk thanks alot, playing my diamond2 games with this song in the background is so professional, feels like i'm already master btw, is there any AP MissFortune support that climb to master/ grandmaster cause everybody is saying about that style alot
so I main shaco sup and love it but I feel like im trolling even tho I win a high percent with shaco sup. Even when I do lose my team blames me with out fail. What should I do?
Playing off meta or low pick rate champs can do this :/. At the end of the day my best suggestion is to mute all. Don't let people bring you down just focus on your game and carry those fools!