How to Play Warhammer 40K 10th Edition - Part 4: Shooting Phase 

I have a question for modifiers, if i get a plus one by any rule from my Miniatures, but a minus one by the enemys, does that cancel itself out? And if i get 3x a +1 and 2x a -1, does that lead to a plus 1 in total?

Would be nice if you cut them all together with a small battle with say a few models to show how it goes.

@@dkerr200 eh, he is doing more than enough with all those detailed explanations. Let him have some free time. Making a play-list, so those parts can be easily found, would be enough.

@@vojtadrasner2440 no he should be chained to a large rock until he does what people on RU-vid ask.

P sure there already is a playlist of the ones he's done so far :) Auspex is fucking ONTO it 👌

Yeah, there's already a playlist that I'll be adding these to bit by bit - tinyurl.com/2r8v8huv :)

If it helps: Core Rules > The Battle Round > Making Attacks > 2. Wound Roll

Yeah its pretty confusing at first. Roll to wound, then they roll to save, then you deal wounds, which causes them to lose wounds. I feel like one other word would help. Like roll to hit, roll for impact, they roll to save, then you deal wounds, causing them to lose vitality.

@@superdoombro I agree as a new player the wording is very confusing, I don't understand why call it that way, wounds should be hit points or vitality as you said, then melee or shoot, then hit or miss, then save or armor mitigation and then damage to health pool / hit points

Yeah, I'm still learning. But even if I was familiar, I'd still at least listen because his voice is therapeutic to me .

Seems to be different psychic abilities printed on each unit card, if it is a psychic weapon, you would shoot that, and the other weapons, unless it is a pistol. only pistols or other weapons can shoot.

You can shoot any unit within LOS and Range. you are not forced to shoot the unit in front. The unit in front does not block LOS.

When you have a leader attached to a unit their keywords get transferred to the bodyguard unit, though they don't gain the benefit of the keyword transfer. For instance if a leader has fly (like the Technomancer), and the bodyguard unit does not (Necron Warriors), the warriors have the fly keywords as long as they are the bodyguard unit of the Technomancer, and they don't gain the ability to fly. This would allow a unit that has anti-fly to use it against the Necron warriors.

yes. i dont think this rule was changed. as long as the model isnt taller than the vehicle, they can be hidden

True line of sight my friend. If you can/cannot see it from the model's perspective, then it is/isn't within line of sight. Ruins the only exception.

You gotta declare all the targets of one of your units when they get to shoot.

Monsters and vehicles can always be targeted unless a special rule says otherwise.

Yeah mate, pistols can be shot even if engagement range.

they can! with the exception of "pistol" type weapons which can only be fired alongside other pistols which if you fire that model can't shoot any non-pistol weapons. btw! you can even have one weapon shoot at one unit and another shoot a different one but you gotta have all the shots from each shoot one unit. In melee is where you must choose one weapon to strike with per model, unless you have a weapon with "extra attacks" in which it can be used alongside another melee weapon but these are usually found on single model units anyways.

They absolutely can use all of their guns together except pistols, while on the flip side in the fight phase they have to select a single weapon to use, unless their weapon has the extra attacks keyword.

roll of 1 = always fail for hit rolls, wound rolls, and saving throws.

1s always fail so you'd wound on 2+ and ignore -1 to wound if the opponent had it.

So that's why reroll 1s is such a big deal. Makes sense.

late response but it is not affected. critical hits are always unmodified hit roll, so if you have a dark pact that says you crit on 5+ that is before any plus or minus to hit is applied

No. Simply overkill

Counters modifiers. So 2+ with a +1 modifier is still totally defeated and rolls a 6+.

lol, yeah should really be a +, as you add it to the save value.

line of sight is model by model for which models can shoot

@@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber oh thanks, so you cant hide half your unit behind a wall and still shoot with everything anymore? that sucks but makes way more sense lol

@@A_Davinus not unless it is a chest high wall from all the videogames

You couldn't do that in ninth

If in doubt, I go by this simple mantra: the game is supposed to be slow rolled. Eg. if a shooting MODEL's attacks killed the only visible MODEL of an enemy UNIT, then the shooting UNIT can make no more attacks, as if slow rolled, then the UNIT would no longer be visible. That said though, if for eg. a MODEL succeeds on 3 attacks with 1 weapon, but 2 kill the only visible MODEL, the remaining 1 attack is still required to be assigned to the target UNIT. After which no further attacks can be made...well, all that assuming defending player assigned wounds to, and removed, the visible model...simple 😅?

The owner of the unit decides which models to remove.

@@ghackotpony Unless a rule says otherwise. - There was a rule for the death jester when they could pick which model the wounds go to.

Answer 1. works as you think, you can use any saves in a unit until that model dies then you use whatever save is left. Answer 2. If it is part of the unit getting shot, you can use their equipment even if its not being looked at directly. The shielded model would be the first to take wounds if the unit is hit. Let me know if I missed something. Hope this helps!

The player making the save rolls chooses a model (any model, in the target unit) and begins making save rolls, that model must continue rolling saves until it is removed from play (as a casualty) or there're no more saves to take, you must roll all saves for a weapon type, before moving on to another. The part that sometimes gets overlooked is that it's for the rest of the phase, it's not important to your specific question, but it would apply if any other enemy units fired at the breacher squad, over the rest of the shooting phase. In your example, you could choose him, you could choose to start with the dark lance, if he passes, you HAVE to roll the splinter rifle save on him (no choice), if it passes, you HAVE to roll the the second splinter rifle save on him (no choice), if he passes all 3, it ends (no more saves to make), but there're many enemy units running around in a game of 40k. If any more enemy units were to fire on the breachers, you must begin making saves (for the unit) on that same shield model (till the end of that shooting phase), once that shooting phase ends (all enemy units have shot), it is possible to pick a different model (in that unit) to begin rolling saves for (like in the combat phase), as long as it's a different phase. I don't have the book, this is just based on what I've seen and how it was played in the past, I haven't seen anything to make me think it'll work differently, but I could be wrong.

@@therustbeltblacksmith I did not know that once you pick a model for saves in a given phase, you need to keep using it for the rest of the phase. Thank you

@@julientabulazero103 Anytime bud, it's more of a corner case rule, for most, it's unlikely to come up (units commonly all have the same saves and are armed similarly), so if we're talking a lasgun guardsmen from one side of a cloud that should've been removed from the other side, it likely doesn't matter, but I play tri-wing Dark Angels and my Deathwing unit has mixed (invulnerable) saves and weapons, so it always comes up in my games, otherwise, I doubt I would've known about it either. Savvy players will sometimes throw a loose heavy (or special) weapon their way early in the phase, with hopes that I'll try and tank it on my thunder hammer/storm shield/cyclone launcher terminator, if I take the bait (and make the save) they'll follow it up with a bucket of small arms fire (that likely would've went somewhere else) hoping to drag down that termy with weight of numbers (always a good anti-terminator tactic). Spacewolves devastator squads can be tricked into this as well, it won't come up a lot, sometimes they won't take the bait, but it can be useful, in the right circumstances.

@@therustbeltblacksmith wait as far as I was aware, the player being fired upon’s unit isn’t locked into tanking all shots in a phase to a single model unless said model was already wounded? Is this a new 10th change or have I just misunderstood it?

Models with multiple weapon options will have the restrictions to what they may equip on their datasheets. Any ranged weapon equipped on a model can attack.

Yeah

LOS and range has always been a per model basis. not much has changed. just gotta know what u have and roll accordingly. as an ex guard player of a long time, youve always had to roll for each weapon. (8 sets of lasgun. another roll for plasma. and another roll for flamer.) so 3 rolls for 1 squad. i believe this is what you were asking. correct me if im wrong. tedious but you get used to it

@@baylorlopez4495 thank you - that explains it - it seems that our group let that fly! Just need to be more with it now that I’m picking it back up with a different group!

I don't believe so unless they have the "titanic" keyword. so basically just the biggest boys they you could easily shoot at from anywhere anyways

You can do normal movement and still shoot, however if you advance or fall back you cannot. Similarly if you DO shoot, you cannot charge.

You are correct. Attacks proceed in the order: 1.Hit Roll; 2. Wound Roll; 3. Allocate Attack; 4. Save Roll; 5. Inflict Damage.

I would house rule to ignore things like banners but I wouldn't glue models together on tall scenic bases anymore if it means the modles head pokes above terrain.

Basically, if you need a 6 to wound, you shouldn't crit on the same number. Many games have this limitation.

Lol, gonna have 12 models in 2k this edition I reckon

And they can bring their assassin buddy.

@@Lumovanis no one's gonna use assassins cause they're epic heroes

@@AbraGaming It's not like you have a limit to the number of epic heroes in your list. Yeah, you can't double up on any assassins, but that's about it. Custodes could use the killing power it wold seem.

@@Lumovanis you can literally only have 1 epic hero xd