In this video we measure the actual current draw of Line 6 HX Stomp, HX Effects, Firehawk FX, POD HD500X and the older Line 6 M9. We also show how to power these with CIOKS DC7 power supply.
I just plugged my HX Effects to the Cioks DC7 with the grey parallel adapter cable 8800 in combination with the yellow adapter cable Type 3 No 3050 and it works like a charm!
thanks for the video... so the conclusion... what all i need to power up HX effects ?? and if i turn on all the effect include the loopers (its still around 1000mAh right?) thank u
Hello I just received the Cioks DC 7 and was wondering if I could use 4 of the outputs to power the Line 6 POD HD500X to meet the minimal requirement of 2.5 amps for the device? I’m assuming I’ll lose some sort of tone just running it with 1 amp like shown in the video and I need the backlight for the display. Any help will be great. Thanks
Would the current draw change with an actual guitar plugged in? Can this be demonstrated? I mean if you have all algorithms in place and the preamp in the unit starts giving out the signal- will the draw not increase?
does this work for the line 6 m13? i also have an ac 10 and an ac rider and thought that neither of these was enough to power the m13 so i never tried either or any other power supplies but ive always wanted a better solution than the oem ps
Great video, but unfortunately I can't buy this 8800 Flex cable here in China. And one question, how could you be sure that there is no current surge when we play the guitar? Normally chips will draw more power when processing the signal. Line 6 made an adapter with 3A capacity instead of 1.5A. There should be some reason behind it for them to spend additional cost for the capacity?
I need to power my Line 6 M5. Can I use 12VDC to power it instead of the 9VDC that it comes with? I herd you mention something about it on the Line 6 M9..
Hi, Poul I got you’re emails thank you in this photo I use here this is one of my mini Pedalboard setups! I do accually not only have a RU-vid account but also. I’m on Facebook but no like say Instagram account or any others like that. But I do use some others. So what you’re saying is these will also power Line 6 Tonecore Pedals am I right? As long as I use these cables. At first I also wondered how often dip switches are used now I think I might know. Thanks for the great videos these are the best education when it comes to what people want to do at any level of musician they are. I accidentally used my real name when I was at College on RU-vid and have my old misspelt MusicanOfTheFuture account. I hoped to make more videos too myself but unfortunately didn’t get round to it yet but I will try again. I play keyboard guitar and harmonica.
He's taking a pedal board cable or extension cable and cutting the positive side (w white line) and connecting two banana plugs to it so he can run that through the meter to get currant (mA) reading.
Hello. very informative video. I have the HX Effects and getting the Mooer Preamp Live within days (I had to return the one I just got because of poor midi and power supply connects) Anyway, would the DC7 be able to power those both along with a wah and small wireless unit?
regarding the m9, Can you do it with any other pedal with those same characteristics? I would like to know exactly if I can do it with the digitech xp100. thank you
Yes please. If it can I will buy one. Other similar power supplies have given me trouble powering the HX XL, probably because of extra lights and utilizing all ins/outs
@@ryanclark6035 I haven't seen anyone do a current draw on the XL, but I have one now and I've been powering it off a Cioks DC-7 using two outputs and it's been fine.
Thanks for the video. Could I use the CIOKS DC7 to power both the HX Stomp and the HX Effects together at the same time, whilst still using the other connections to power some other standard 9v pedals?
@@ciokspowersuppliesforeffec7533 Thanks for getting back to me guys. Does the DC7 come with any of those cables mentioned or would I have to purchase them separately?
Please explain how you determined that the M9 required 12Vdc power, not 9Vdc power? The documentation for Truetone's CS12 isolated power supply unit says that the M9 can be powered with either 9Vdc or 9Vac.
The official specification for powering Line 6 M9 says 9V AC. This voltage is rectified inside the pedal via a 4-diode bridge rectifier and led into an electrolytic capacitor. In this process the AC voltage is roughly multiplied by 1.4 and from that you should subtract two diode voltage drops and also half of the peak-peak ripple voltage on the capacitor. This calculation translated into a higher DC voltage on the input. You can also look at it in another way; what DC voltage should you apply to the M9 to achieve the same DC voltage on the electrolytic capacitor as if it was powered with its original 12V AC adapter. Both ways you get something very close to 12V DC.
Crazy thought but, could you use 3 gray parallel flex? The first 2 plugged in 4 of the DC7 slots and the 3rd one to connect those 2 so that you could have 2.6 of current head room? Is that a safe connection? Assuming that its all in 9v
I feel like when we use more DSP in Hx Stomp (like running two amp and IR in stereo) , We might draw more current. Can you explain it in context of more DSP usage rather than LED lights.
that's exactly the answer I'm looking for right now cuz I wanna power my HX Stomp via USB and the 1A solutions seem to tight for me although I've seen ppl doing it with Ripcord (also 1A), but never at DSP max
Hey, my M9 doesn’t work with 12V DC power, even if I combine two 500mA outputs with a current combiner cable. Do you have any ideas why it might be so?
Hi! I've been looking for the same cable you use to patch your multimeter between the power supply and the pedal, but can't find anything like it. Did you make it yourself? If not, could you tell me where you found it? Thanks a lot!
It's our #1001 Extension Flex which normally is used to prolong any of our Flex cables with additional 50cm. Here I take and cut one of the wires and attach banana plugs, one at each of the ends I have after the cut.
What happens if you plug-in an electric guitar, or even a variax guitar (with no battery) through the dedicated port? wouldn’t this raise the power consumption and even explain the manufacturer’s power supply recommendations?
Hi, this is doable and will most probably work but not recommended and specially not for touring. Use outlet 7 and 9 with #8800 parallel adapter flex followed by the yellow #3050 flex. You will be overloading the DC10, so I'd suggest you sell the DC10 and get the new DC7 for a setup with HX Stomp.
Hi, thank you very much for the information! I have a question... why you are using 12V for M9? And if I wanna use 9V power supply for M9, what's the current draw? Thank you!
Originally the M9 was designed for a 9V AC adapter. The 9V AC when rectified became very close to 12V DC so therefore I suggest to use 12V DC which for the M9 internally is the closest thing to the original power. But it will also work of 9V DC but then draw more current so the power drawn is the same.
Awesome video, I just bought my HX Stomp and wanted to power it up with my power supply. What I would like to know is whether is necessary to have some sort of "safety delta"? I mean, HX needs around 0.9A and combining 2 slots of my power supply I could give 1A. Would that be safe enough? Or should I try to give slightly more as you do here?
You can use any switchmode power supply and parallel 2 high current DC outputs to power the Stomp. What you would need is a current doubler cable to power it.
@user-mo6tp9sb1g What I mean by "switchmode" in this context, is that the power supply is calibrated to any voltage wherever you are in the world, from 100 up to 240 volts.
It's intended to power (almost) EVERYTHING. So it would really be impossible to provide EVERY type of cable with the unit without raising costs. It's more cost effective for the consumer to buy the unit and the cables that you need separate.
Hi Paul, I want to power the following - 1) TC Electronics / PolyTune Mini 3 2) JHS / Andy Timmons AT+ 3) JHS / Bonzai 4) Line 6 / HX STOMP (White) 5) Line 6 / HX STOMP (Black) 6) Electro Harmonix / Freeze 7) Boss / RC-3 Looper 8) Perhaps 2-3 other 9v JHS or Boss Pedals. *** Is it safe to run 2 HX Stomps from the Cioks DC-7, along with other 9v pedals? *** Should I buy a separate Cioks DC-7 for running 2 HX STOMPS ,or can I simply get the Cioks 8 expander to give me the extra power connections from my Cioks DC-7 to run all above forementioned? Thanks for sharing these RU-vid videos.
Great videos. I'd love to know what the power draw of the Moore Preamp Live is. The manual says 12v 1a, but I'm assuming it'd be realistically less than that. I'm assuming I could set two of the outputs to 12v and use a current doubler cable to power it with the DC7. Is that accurate?
Hello Adam i am also planning to buy the ciosk dc7 to power my mooer preamp live with bunch of pedals. I really have very minimalistic idea about current. So can't we power with one 12v outlet the preamp live ?
Can anyone tell me the difference between the dc7 and the powermax? I've asked on a few different forums but no one has answered..the only thing I can find is the price and a few volts more on the dc7
Yea- good look finding either the yellow/type3 cable or thr parallel gray cable- now it seems like it does NOT come with the Cioks DC7- what the heck??!
Is it safe to use the red and green cables included with the DC7 to power an Hx Stomp? So it would go grey 2-1 (8800) cable in to red (reverse polarity) in to green in to Stomp.
You can't do it like this, sorry. You need the yellow Flex for the HX Stomp or as I did when measuring the Effects swap the polarity on the green Flex cable. The red Flex is for the smaller 5.5/2.1mm DC socket so it won't fit at all. But why not just get the correct Flex from the beginning..? Go for the yellow #3050 Flex.
CIOKS Power Supplies for Effect Pedals i cannot find the yellow flex in stock anywhere in the US. Is there another cable that will be easy to find that will work with the 8800 cable to power my HX stomp?? Thnx
CIOKS Power Supplies for Effect Pedals So powering the HX stomp with the DC7: is it okay to go from the gray parallel cable right to the yellow flex, or is the black cable required in there as well? I wasn’t sure if the black cable was just used for the multimeter. Thanks!
I found a guy on reverb who builds custom power supplies specifically with hx stomp in mind. The hx power is 1000mah and the other 9v sections are standard 500mah and it comes with all the cables. Well worth the $90 I paid
Here is a link to the triple i got for my brother. reverb.com/item/32691103-hx-effects-hx-stomp-mini-triple-double-isolated-power-supply-approved-by-line-6-handmade-in-usa But he has a ton of other and if you know exactly how many pedals you use he can custom one for you too...
Great power supply. I do not like too many cables hanging around my board. Why not make it possible to have, in-between two power outputs, a third output, that combines the amps of 2 outputs. Just my two cents.
@1aquadon Likewise, I have to run a Voicelive 3. I'm wondering if the power draw is a lot lower than the 1amp indicated on the device. I'm hoping this will not be more than 2 rails.
By the way I can email 2 phone numbers which I have mobile and home phone number for whenever you want to give me anymore help. I was even surprised how easy the new Digitech pedals were to setup and use, Ventura Vibe, Dirty Robot, Polara, Obscura and Nautila which I’ve setup in a random order on my Pedaltrain Nano+. What I also love to do is then sell the boxes, pedalplates and stickers along with any manual if available and warranty card on eBay, and keep all my pedals to keep plenty of room in our house. I’ve sold some guitar pedal boxes and manuals in the past and will try again. Also eventually any unused Powersupplies to be replaced by Cioks. I got interested eversince I saw you can even power Electro Harmonix Tube Pedals like, Tube Equilizer, and the Version they’ve done of the Big Muff ect.
Although having just a single power supply for my pedalboard is a great idea, and, DC7 apparently works well and it could be a viable solution, at line6.com/support/page/kb/effects-controllers/helix/hx-stomp-faq-r906/ there's an statement about power supplies for HX Stomp. "IMPORTANT NOTE #2: YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN. Feel free to use this FAQ as a starting point, but Line 6 is not responsible for any damage incurred when using HX Stomp with any third-party power supplies. That is, if someone writes "B-b-but Line 6 said I could use [power supply X!]," someone will hopefully refer them to this post where I make it perfectly clear that we only *officially* support our DC-3G." I know that the DC7 and some others power supplies are able to power HX Stomp, however as long as my HX stomp is supported by Line6 (guarantee), I'd rather using their official power supply.
@5:44 "It doesn't really matter what you're playing and what kind of algorithm is being used; it's more about how much light there is on the whole thing and that determines the current draw" -- says a guy contradicting Line 6 themselves, on a device that's never being played throughout the demo -- I call bullshit.
