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How to properly ground your roof antenna and satellite dish 

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@BaconJunkie1
@BaconJunkie1 3 года назад
I'm an Ex-DISH quality control inspector, Nice video on grounding, sounds like it was almost straight out of the processes that our techs used.
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech 3 года назад
It was
@ronedwards8239
@ronedwards8239 3 года назад
Lol, most are never grounded by the installers including mine. Needless to say I got rid of that Dish junk 2 years ago and saved a bundle.
@hulkgqnissanpatrol6121
@hulkgqnissanpatrol6121 10 месяцев назад
Why do I now get a pulse affect to my frequencies now?
@modellerdesign
@modellerdesign 4 месяца назад
U'd better put a lightning rod, and not make it from your antenna's by grounding it.
@6actual911
@6actual911 3 года назад
Great video, I learned my setup is wrong and am correcting it.. thanks
@bobbader4789
@bobbader4789 2 года назад
Can the ground wire on a CB Antenna roof mounted touch the roof or side of the house?
@danbasta3677
@danbasta3677 7 месяцев назад
Always standard procedure to ground your tv antenna cable either on a cold water pipe and the mast and tower that antenna is on to be grounded. This prevents static electricity from reaching the tv set and damaging it completely. Very important to do and get done with.
@WV591
@WV591 2 года назад
Good info TU
@christophersmith1155
@christophersmith1155 Год назад
WOULDNT CLAMPING ON A GAS PIPE OR EVEN THE GROUND ROD OF A GAS PIPE BE A BOMB WAITING TO HAPPEN ?
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech Год назад
Not according to Michigan city code. I've got $600 in fines that says it works or needs to be done. Maybe they want us to blow up.
@ShawnKirk007
@ShawnKirk007 Год назад
OK... so I've read through most of the comments. I seems to have a slightly different scenario. My antenna (Tram 1411) is roof mounted. The antenna itself is screwed onto a PVC pipe (not a metal pipe/pole). This PVC pipe was then secured to a pre-existing DirecTV roof mount. I got rid of the dish and it's pole and simply put the PVC pipe into the remaining metal pipe of the roof mount. As such, the antenna itself it NOT touching any metal and is separated by a PVC pipe. I assume if it takes a hit, the PVC pipe will just melt somewhat, but I'm not looking to debate this setup. However, as we all know, the RG8x PL259 coax cable screwed into the bottom of the antenna runs down through the PVC pipe, through a hole in my roof, then across my attic to another hole in my office ceiling, and then drops down to finally connect to my RTL-SDR dongle plugged into my PC. So obviously if the antenna takes a hit... it will run down the cable and fry my PC unless I simply disconnect it and leave it dangling during a storm. Which then lead my brain to thinking of a Hollywood style catastrophe of lightning shooting out of the unplugged cable and catching a ghost in my office (ala Ghostbusters stream). SOOO... it there a block, breaker, etc that you simple screw between the antenna's coax cable and another cable going to the PC without the need of a grounding rod? Because again... the roof mount that this video shows using the 'bolt holes' for are useless since there is no direct metal on metal contact with the antenna.
@crosslink1493
@crosslink1493 6 месяцев назад
Use one like is shown at 0:37 in the video on the coaxial cable. If possible change the PVC mast to a metal one as PVC doesn't last as long as a metal mast (you can use metal electrical conduit for this, you don't need a TV antenna-specific mast), and ground the metal mast as shown as it can cause signal problems due to static electricity build-up. I'd also suggest a separate ground rod for the antenna from the electrical system's ground to prevent interference.
@gone2dmtns
@gone2dmtns 2 года назад
Some municipalities require two ground rods spaced no less than 6 feet apart. Also, the NEC (National electric Code) requires two ground rods if the primary rod resistance is greater than 25 ohms.
@timmack2415
@timmack2415 2 года назад
Spot on. NEC also requires lightning arrestors BEFORE any antenna feed line enters any dwelling or structure.
@Eric48359
@Eric48359 6 месяцев назад
So when I install an inline antenna amplifier , and if I have properly grounded the antenna and the cable... wouldn't this also ground the amplifier?
@L4M858
@L4M858 12 дней назад
Yes. The amplifier would then be grounded via the coax cable. That is, as long as the coax able is properly grounded via a coax feed thru grounding block.
@JeremiahK
@JeremiahK Год назад
Is there a special piece of hardware to be able to attach a ground to your outdoor spigot? This would be the best option for me, but I can't find any information on it.
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech Год назад
Cold water clamp
@seeharvester
@seeharvester Год назад
Make sure your water pipes that feed your spigot are iron or copper. A lot of them today are PEX or PVC.
@808pathfinder
@808pathfinder 3 года назад
lots leave out the coax with out the loop before hooking it up, water channels in your wall if you dont thanks for make that clear
@lloydhills7416
@lloydhills7416 Год назад
Or silicon the hole that your Coaxial cable is coming in to.
@TheJTcreate
@TheJTcreate 4 года назад
Really Good video. Thumbs up for the most part. Only two issues. #1 Don't share grounding rods with AC power when it comes to antenna (especially if you live in areas with high lightening). Aside from lightening, if any household equipment becomes damp or damage, it could dump AC onto its ground which will ground loop through your grounding network and back into your receiver causing all sorts of issues. #2 Trying to ground to metal pipes is against code in some states, especially gas. There is also no guarantee you will get a sufficient ground from piping. Also, if lightening strikes your antenna and you happen to be doing dishes or taking a shower, the outcome can be very thrilling especially if you have hard water. Grounding rods are easy to purchase and easy to hammer into most soil conditions. It only takes a few minutes too. Di-electric grease for the connector points would be a good add-on to reduce corrosion.
@TE5LA-GAMING
@TE5LA-GAMING 3 года назад
You must, according to code, connect all ground rods back to the house electrical ground. Someone could be electrocuted if you don't.
@MaximBelkin
@MaximBelkin 2 года назад
Does lightning arrester (ground block) have to be installed outside? Can it be installed, say, in the attic and then wired to a ground rod outside?
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech 2 года назад
It can be installed anywhere
@danbasta3677
@danbasta3677 7 месяцев назад
​Quite correct, as long as it reaches a ground wire going to both a cold water pipe and a ground rod sunk into the ground to divert static electricity from and away the tv set. This is a very important step in grounding procedures.
@Shawn-rq4py
@Shawn-rq4py 4 года назад
How do I find a ground block for sma style connectors for WiFi coax?
@TheJTcreate
@TheJTcreate 4 года назад
You can use an SMA lightening surge protector with ground divert as a grounding block.
@wisecitizenry2844
@wisecitizenry2844 3 года назад
Good video, noral is always ground your antennas. It will have you antenna work better, and prevents rf in your shack. 73's KN6BVX
@ms-ip6tp
@ms-ip6tp 3 года назад
Caution most all newer house construction, the gas lines below the ground are pvc plastic " NOT METAL" so do not ground your antenna mast to this serious and dangerous gas line error. also the same is true for new construction water pipes! it is not metal under ground they are plastic lines. Failure to ground the outside mast correctly, will introduce a lighting strike into your home and equipment! always attach to a 8 foot grounding rod!! all the best....nuff said
@chrisgraham2904
@chrisgraham2904 2 года назад
Building codes in Canada require all plastic/composite gas and water lines that are buried to run a separate ground wire , usually taped or cable tied to the exterior of the pipe, to complete the grounding circuit. Also, allows the pipe to be located with detectors in the future if the ground needs to be opened.
@Jose-xb6st
@Jose-xb6st 3 года назад
Most of the video is okay except the part of grounding to a gas pipe. That's a no-no👎. You can cause an explosion if a lightning strike the antenna or satellite dish. The best way is to ground to the groundrod or to the electric power meter. Grounding to the waterpipe is okay if theirs no other options, but make sure you are not in the shower when there's a storm.
@andrewm8831
@andrewm8831 2 года назад
Yeah I thought that as well, never heard that idea put forward before but logic suggest that sparks and gas are not a good combination 🤔
@justinduarte5739
@justinduarte5739 Год назад
You would be very unlikely to cause an explosion grounding to gas. I know it's always frowned upon in telco but for gas to ignite it has to be in concentration between 4 and 14% anything more or less the gas would not ignite. The gas line is a closed loop and a sealed unit minus where the regulator purges any excess pressure. Sometimes gas lines are grounded same as the homes water supply.
@allabouthim03
@allabouthim03 3 года назад
Got all the proper connector ran the ground to the same place the Cable company grounded to the electric box. NOW, no channels🤔. When I disconnect the ground the channels come back on. What did I do wrong?
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech 3 года назад
Sounds like there could be some sort of electrical interference somewhere. Different things could be causing this. I would check the connector fittings from the antenna all the way to the back of the tv or receiver. Including the fittings on the ground block, pre amp, ECT. Make sure the braided wire isn't touching the stinger. Make sure no braided wire is protruding from the fitting. Feel the back of your tv or receiver with your hand to see it feels abnormally hot. Also listen for a hissing sound this could indicate a bad ground source and could be feeding power back to the receiver or tv. Check to verify that your grounding on the antenna is correct and lastly try a different grounding source other than electrical box. Also some cable and telephone companies equipment send a little voltage back down the line. I've seen it a few times. Something quick and easy you can try (and i would try this first because no tools are needed) is to unplug any cable, satellite or telephone equipment that are using that ground source and see if it works. Good luck
@allabouthim03
@allabouthim03 3 года назад
@@cordcutterlifestyleandtech Thanks for the suggestion. I had already tried your last suggestion, removing everything else from the box ground and attaching the antenna only. I still lost all the channels. As you said it must be something in the coax cables or grounding block. Thanks again.
@RonenLin
@RonenLin 3 года назад
Why is the ground wire going from the antenna to the ground block so thin? What if lightning hits the antenna wouldn't it fry that thin "messenger" wire? Also, if I don't have a ground rod at my house (it's grounded via the water line bonded to my gas line), do I still need to ground rod or can I just wire a 6gauge wire from my antenna to my electric panel? Is there a difference between a solid 10AWG and a stranded 10AWG? If not, is there a min amount of strands that should be used?
@lucasdantas723
@lucasdantas723 3 года назад
The "messenger" wire is more for discharging static build up as the guy said in the video but if lightning hits your antenna directly, more than likely things are going to be toast no matter what. These grounding systems I believe are more for preventing static, and nearby lightning strikes from damaging things but like I said a direct strike will usually toast things. I wish I can help you out on your other questions but I believe grounding anything to the gas lines aren't recommended at all. Be aware though water lines maybe copper inside of your home but once it leaves the house through the ground it maybe some other material like plastic so you aren't getting that true ground
@chrisgraham2904
@chrisgraham2904 2 года назад
@@lucasdantas723 The Canadian code requires that any buried plastic/poly pipe used to supply water to a home must have a separate ground wire run along side the pipe (usually cable tied to the plastic pipe) to insure that there is a ground maintained from the home's water meter to the closest metallic ground in the city's water supply system. The ground wire also acts as a trace wire, so that buried plastic pipes can be easily found with metal detection equipment. Virtually all urban homes have their electrical panels, communication equipment and antennas grounded to the cold water supply pipe, on the supply side of the water meter. I've only seen ground rods used on barns, sheds and outbuildings that don't have water supply piping or homes on wells.
@L4M858
@L4M858 12 дней назад
Yes, you can attach the ground wire to your electrical circuit breaker panel (assuming its grounded which it surely should be.) You can also simply use a clamp on the metal conduit going to panel and attach your ground to that. If you do be sure to scrape off any paint etc. Also, use an ohm meter just to be sure there's zero resistance between any metal conduit and you circuit breaker panel box.
@Archangel0804
@Archangel0804 4 года назад
At :25 you say the "grounding Cable" gauge should be #6 or #8 , however when running "Grounding Wire" from grounding block to Grounding cable should be #10- #18 gauge. What if I don't want to run to the same ground rod as my AC power and INSTEAD, I want to run the antenna ground directly to an independent rod ? Can that be the same #10 gauge wire being run from grounding block, be connected directly to the rod, instead of adding another connection point and using #6 or #8?? for the last foot or two?
@TE5LA-GAMING
@TE5LA-GAMING 3 года назад
A separate ground rod needs to still be connected to the main house electrical ground.
@Archangel0804
@Archangel0804 3 года назад
@@TE5LA-GAMING You didn't answer my question. I realize that the house electric has to have an electrical ground. That wasn't the question My question once again is "What if I don't want to run to the same ground rod as my AC power and INSTEAD, I want to run the antenna ground directly to an independent rod ? ....IF I do this, then what gauge wires do I need from antenna to grounding block, and then from the block to the ground rod? Are they the same?
@electricshark11
@electricshark11 3 года назад
so I think Using the atena for Ac power would just use the wires it brings with the rods. You would need the power to go somewhere and a battery seems reasonablly right. There's a type of block that has 2 inputs and 1 output. 2 input for atena and 1 output for the battery(and I'm hoping the battery is only Dc) The battery would be the ground and the atenas can keep playing with each other. The thicker the wires are use for to take in more power for a slower rate to not damage the input. Only way to find out is to try and tbh I'm down to try that.
@RobKMusic
@RobKMusic 3 года назад
I have the same question. I don't think the people here speak English...
@RobertWilliams-pc2ur
@RobertWilliams-pc2ur 3 года назад
@@Archangel0804 The National Electrical code in Article 800 specifies that the minimum size conductor for communication grounding is #18 AWG copper. I recommend larger, such as #12 or #10, just because they are sturdier. You state you do not want to run to the same ground rod as your AC power, but instead want to use an independent rod, OK, just realize the the National Electrical Code, Article 250, requires that all ground rods must be bonded together with minimum #6 AWG copper wire. This is for your safety and the safety of sensitive electronic equipment.
@toucansam3
@toucansam3 3 года назад
Dumb question: Do I need to ground if its in my attic?
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech 3 года назад
You're good. Yes
@Outdoors_with_kg4muk_Wayne
@Outdoors_with_kg4muk_Wayne Год назад
The Gas line,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Seriously the Gas line first direct hit of lighting the house blows up 😂
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech Год назад
In some states if the gas line is bonded you can ground to it
@andreah6175
@andreah6175 4 года назад
You pretty smart? Can you see my vides and tell me how to mitigate such a thing?
@robertbuckner1064
@robertbuckner1064 Год назад
Never use your water pipes for any kind of ground!!
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech Год назад
Why not?
@robertbuckner1064
@robertbuckner1064 Год назад
@@cordcutterlifestyleandtech not code and any using water could get shocked
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech
@cordcutterlifestyleandtech Год назад
@@robertbuckner1064 it passes code if it's bonded.
@timmack2415
@timmack2415 2 года назад
No, no and NO! This violates NEC
@wakkywabbit5446
@wakkywabbit5446 4 года назад
You're assuming people understand most of what you're explaining. Great video for people with advanced knowledge. Terrible video for novices.👎
@Archangel0804
@Archangel0804 4 года назад
This is easy for anyone. Watch it a few times and follow the diagrams.
@chrisgraham2904
@chrisgraham2904 2 года назад
If your too much of a novice to understand the directions of this video, you should not be installing your own antenna.
@noehmedina4705
@noehmedina4705 5 месяцев назад
Sound like you just bullshiting, all I saw was pictures from other sources. Show how you literally do it yourself instead of stealing from others.
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