How To Properly Recover HVAC Refrigerant Into A Tank

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@industrialmaintenancesolutions 10 месяцев назад

Always good to use a refrigerant scale. That way you will know exactly how much refrigerant you recovered. Always weigh the tank before you start recovering. Good video.

@mondrian5620 Год назад

I just started learning and doing small jobs here and there for a buddy that does HVAC full time. Thanks for these videos man. Look forward to learning more.

@krazykilper Год назад

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@bryanditol4562 Год назад

Dave. Appreciate for the content you make specially for a beginner like me who work part time with friends that work full time. I like watching your content. This helps me recall jobs that hvac friends thought me. Also., I start buying equipment for me to start working on hvac. Thank you. Keep sharing more information.. God Bless

@diyhvacguy Год назад

Thanks so much! Glad my videos are helpful for you!

@Honestandtruth Год назад

I don't have EPA license....... But 7-years ago I installed a Complete A/C system myself and I am just a handyman/ regular guy😅

@w8what575 Год назад

It’s made to appear more complicated than what it really is…their r22 is just methane and r290 propane…but they filter it and jack up the price …price gouging …which should be illegal

@rickybrown6585 Год назад

R22 is bad for the stratosphere, ozone depletion... And the R410A is bad for the troposphere... That's why you need to get edumicated

@mrplayfair6335 Год назад

Actually the ionosphere

@mrplayfair6335 Год назад

@Ricky Brown you're close enough for me to know you don't know jack

@rickybrown6585 Год назад

@@mrplayfair6335 I have my universal, if you had yours you would know what I'm talking about

@shopper6451 Год назад

Thank for your videos!! Last summer was a rough year for AC issues for me to manage! Have rental houses in Mississippi, Florida, Alabama and Texas. ACs are a requirement in the South. It is a need to have cool air in the South. Last summer replaced AC in Fort Walton Beach at 7K and it took a couple of weeks to arrive. The house in Navarre I pay for the warranty and that ac had three hard breaks on parts at one time and it was 1K for repair and that unit is only 5 years of age. The AC in Alabama has a slow leak and had $250 of R-22 Freon placed in it. Last summer came back to house in MS with a hole in the ceiling due to pan overflow! Still need to get the drywall patched from that hole! Your videos make me think I can can do more to spend less! Thank you!

@diyhvacguy Год назад

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@zippythechicken Год назад

hopefully your repairs last for a while because the new high efficiency replacement units they started forcing on everyone in january are much more expensive

@ReliableHVACR Год назад

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@jjf1058 10 месяцев назад

Your videos are very simple and efficient. Thank you very much. God Bless you.

@user-gd5bn2qp2c Год назад

Very useful information for DIYer! Thanks for sharing!

@gregoriocampo 9 месяцев назад

I understood everything very clearly. Thank you

@skipsaunders5974 11 месяцев назад

I believe you should be weighing the recovery tank so you know how much refrigerant you extracted from the old A/C compressor/condenser. (weighing the refrigerant would let you know whether, or not, the old machine was fully/partially charged).

@brianreip411 Год назад

Thank you for the video, I was always interested in this stuff and you make it super easy and simple to learn. Thank you for your help!

@nolannsautodetail5468 Год назад

Thank you thank you so much for awesome content and taking the time to explain for us who are not pro so I welcome as much info as you can share so we can take notes lol. Keep up the great work :) #1fan :) 😊

@diyhvacguy Год назад

Thanks so much! 🙏🏻

@itsnotfar Год назад

Thanks for the training video !!!

@TheRealistPhilosopher 4 месяца назад

How do you know when the king valve is all the way open? I saw you just kept turning, but you didn't show when you stopped. Is there a change in feel when it is fully open? Will it stop turning due to a barrier in place?

@Thermodynamics6543 Год назад

Excellent demonstration. Thanks

@tjslbfyt98 11 месяцев назад

Could you explain how to use the purge feature of that machine, and what that does?

@nolannsautodetail5468 Год назад

I would love to see a video on the step by step on a proper pump down To remove coil for cleaning Thank you in advance 😊

@latourbrian 8 месяцев назад

Is there any special consideration when recovering from a mini-split that has only a low side service port? Or just hook to that low side and off you go?

@andylowe2725 11 месяцев назад

I just bought a replacement, brand new, genuine Trane 2.8 ton Compressor for our XL19i outdoor unit; our old compressor has a locked rotor. I bought a Vevor Recovery Refrigerant Recovery Machine, and now a Tank (from watching this video). The Compressor with tax and shipping was $1,350. The Recovery Machine was $350 total. The Tank is $77. The Total to get our 2008 Trane XL19I R22 System working great again is $1,777. There's also no brazing due to Trane's Two Threaded Fittings design. It's going to be so much better than being forced to buy a new 410 Refrigerant System! Thank you for showing us how to remove and store VALUABLE R22.

@turbopomsky3037 2 месяца назад

Resources on where to purchase those recovery items?

@andylowe2725 2 месяца назад

@@turbopomsky3037 Amazon Store Card available to anyone. When we were finished, I sold the Vevor Recovery Machine and the Refrigerant Tank on Craigslist, and used that money to pay for the Amazon Store Card balance.

@andylowe2725 2 месяца назад

@@turbopomsky3037 See next comment.

@turbopomsky3037 2 месяца назад

@@andylowe2725 hmm don’t see it on my end

@andylowe2725 2 месяца назад

@@turbopomsky3037 I used the Amazon Store Card. Anyone can apply. After we were finished, I sold the Vevor Recovery Machine and the Refrigerant Tank on Craigslist. Then, used That money to pay for the Balance on the Amazon Store Card.

@douglasshackett8747 8 месяцев назад

Next week I plan to recover the R410A from a 18K mini split conndesor I installed last summer. Had a leak and not sure how much I lost. I have the leak fixed now and tried just adding a little back at a time no luck. I have a vevor recovery tank same as the one you're using in the video and just received my new yellow jacket recovery machine. I put a little 410A in the recovery tank before giving up and ordering the recoverymachine. Is it possible to recover the 410A without first emptying the recovery tank and pulling a vacuum again?

@calledout4437 Год назад

I’m changing out my compressor. Can I reuse the refrigerant? Especially since I would assume the filter drier is acting like a filter for the old refrigerant you pump out?

@goran415 Год назад

Great Content ! Thank You

@RollinHomies 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the video. Do you have to have a separate recovery pump for every different types of coolant? Ie, one for r22 and another for 134?

@eulaliorodriguez5325 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing this information.

@davidskaggs9914 10 месяцев назад

started doing hvac diy jobs at home. wanted to put a nest to replace my regular thermostat. do you have a video on gas furnace and ac system that wires to nest unit?

@Badboy7357 Год назад

Nice video. I just got the same recovery tank you use, 30lb. Do you happen to know the Water Capacity weight of it? Mine doesn't have it stamped on it and is not mentioned in the manual. It's kind of hard to calculate 80% fill weight without knowing its rated WC weight. It also did not have the tare weight, but that was easy enough to figure out.

@martyscncgarage5275 2 месяца назад

Where do you get those in line filter dryers. Turns out my 410A to 1/4" flare adapter was defective and was not pressing on the schrader valve on the condenser. So, I was basically NOT evacuating the line set on my new mini split system. I simply evacuated the manifold gauge and hoses. Unfortunately, I thought all was ok and released the refrigerant from the mini split condensers (yes, not one but TWO 2 ton systems!) so now the refrigerant is contaminated with whatever air was in the line set and evaporator/indoor unit. So, can the refrigerant be recovered and run through the drier/filter or should I simply evacuate the entire system and recharge with fresh refrigerant? Pretty upset. I followed your videos and the manual to a "T" and turns out a defective adapter, screwed me all up. Hope you can respond.

@AstonSubstantive 5 дней назад

Another great video. Dude, your stuff is on-point.

@23x31 Год назад

Your subscriber count is rising as you are doing gods work!

@diyhvacguy Год назад

Thanks man

@khannamics Месяц назад

Hi your video is awsome. I have one question regarding this video. I have not seen any liquid or vopor option on refrigerant recovery machine.Whereas the compressor suction side have refrigerant in vapor form and compressor dicharge side have refrigerant in liquid form.So according to my understanding, as you open both valves in the outdoor unit at once and switched on the refrigerant recovery machine, it is sucking both gas and liquid refrigerant from the system and transferring it in the refrigerant storage tank. is it true? Normally in refrigerant recovery machines there is an option for liquid or vapor selection with a knob and we recover liquid and gas refrigerant separately

@enriquerobles-leyva4692 10 месяцев назад

Hello, I have a new 6cfm vacuum pump with a new field piece vacuum gauge. I tried to vacuum a recovery tank (vevo) and noticed that once I get to about 1500 microns the gauge starts to go up in readings. Why is that? My vacuum is a Coolmaster 2 stage 6cfm. Please help!

@paulkubas4700 7 месяцев назад

I have 42 used ptac units containing 3# of R22 each that I need to scrap. I am going to purchase the recovery machine and tank. Question. Is it possible to put the freon into empty freon tanks? I'm assuming that I have more freon than the recovery tank holds. Or do I just buy extra recovery tanks and store it in them? I am not certified, but I have a lot of years HVAC experience and A/C experience. Thank You.

@eulaliorodriguez5325 5 месяцев назад

This is a very informative video.

@joelnrs 2 месяца назад

I am interested in purchasing this setup you showed. I have a question on it. If I use this method for 410a I can reuse it in a different system? Does it filter out contaminants as well?

@tpaternoster3987 Месяц назад

Thank you for creating these videos, very helpful. Specific to the top here on recovering refrigerant, the cost to get the specific equipment adds up quickly. Does this seem right? Are there any recommendations you suggest for the DIYr, who is not likely to do this more than a couple of times. Vacuum Pump >$400 Scale >$75 Tank > $130 (It is confusing why the tank is so expensive Gauge to measure evacuation $180 Filter Conversion Kit for Recovery > $75 Total Cost: $860+

@edbrandt8972 Год назад

I am looking for the most cost effective way for a DIYer to recover R22 so they can install a new home unit. Will there be a video on how to recover R22 just using the compressor? I am not sure I would want to buy all of the equipment needed to recover R22 using a stand alone machine. My home has a 99 Goodman unit. Thanks.

@jspriver Месяц назад

just got my 608 universal thanks to this guy

@diyhvacguy Месяц назад

🤘🏼🤘🏼

@user-xz3es9ed3k Год назад

I bought a vevor recovery tank,but the tank no wc(water capacity) on nameplate, how do I know the capacity of the tank?

@upaSilent 15 дней назад

hello, sorry for stpd question, is there a danger compressor oil loss due to this procedures?

@salvatoregiovanni8967 Месяц назад

If you fix a leak on a mini split (for instance), and need to take out the remaining refrigerant, weigh it, and then put that back in with the additional missing amount, how does one go about that process? I can’t find ANY videos that show that scenario. Thanks!

@lt.schlechtnacht9414 11 месяцев назад

If you're working on R134A systems do you still need an EPA certificate? Not car A/Cs

@gabriel020694hatillo 19 дней назад

Thanks for the video man

@SmokyRibsBBQ 6 месяцев назад

Could you tell me if the Vevor recovery unit is AHRI or UL approved to meet EPA guidelines? I couldn't find anything on their website, but I am interested in getting one as long as it's approved.

@w8what575 Месяц назад

If the epa approves it it just means that it’s stamped with their approval because the manufacturer paid them enough for the stamp of approval….u haven’t figured out that most of the hype is all bs yet?

@SmokyRibsBBQ Месяц назад

@@w8what575 Yeah I know it's all money making BS, but regardless their rules require the machines to be EPA approved and I seriously doubt the Vevor is. The owner of this channel decided not to reply so that tells me a lot right there.

@mohammedbourqqadi7992 2 месяца назад

how to recover the refrigerant left inside the hose that connect to the recovery tank and the recovery machine? thanks in advance

@tilecreature 2 месяца назад

rather than purging everything, can you just connect the vacuum pump to the second port on the tank and vacuum the tank, manifold gauges lines and recovery machine in one shot while it all hooked up together?

@Bizija123 Месяц назад

This recovery machine does not do oil separation? So the refrigerant going in the tank is not 'pure' refrigerant - correct?

@LuisC202 Год назад

Dave what sze True BLue hose is that ? 1 meter or 1.5? Thank

@TheRealistPhilosopher 4 месяца назад

Would the small hoses not have also gotten the tank down to 60 microns? It simply would have taken longer, yeah?

@mikesandvig8246 9 месяцев назад

What is the purge setting on the recovery unit use for?

@underdog576967 9 месяцев назад

Hi , nice video I was wondering what is needed for working with R134A and R1234LF . Do I need separate recovery and vacuum systems to prevent cross contamination? Or is there a way to use these for both refrigerants ? Also the gauges being contaminated between these types ?

@1stopshopautorepairs 8 месяцев назад

Did you find this info out Im wondering the same thing

@deweyabbott5310 4 месяца назад

Are there Specific tanks for 410a since it has higher pressures

@TexasWatchman Месяц назад

This is an awesome channel!!!

@diyhvacguy Месяц назад

Thank you! 🙏🏻

@Aviation2016 9 месяцев назад

Can you make a video on the exchange process you have with a reclaiming facility? Exchanging a recovery tank?

@Hvac.tools_ 3 месяца назад

Anyone know what series or model number navac pump is that? 4 cfm?

@jimgreen4504 Месяц назад

Thanks. Subbed

@itsnotfar Год назад

I always remove the tank ball valve. Its in a unprotected location. So easy to be knocked open and refrigerant blowout.

@diyhvacguy Год назад

Yes! I found that out the hard way. Thankfully I was real fast closing it. I actually just threw a cap on it so even if it got opened nothing would happen

@kcs.5783 Год назад

I have a unit that got struck by lightening and I want to change the compressor. I want to recover the Freon and reuse it when I change out the compressor. Is that ok to do? Some say the Freon is not useable again

@diyhvacguy Год назад

If your compressor didn’t have what’s called compressor burn out, you can absolutely recover it, but you won’t be able to find a new unit that supports r22. They’re all 410a. So you are better off recovering it and selling it or having a company come and recover it for you.

@CaptBill69 Год назад

Thank you for lesson. First time on seeing DIY Recovery Option. Imagine it would be same for an automotive AC system via keeping track of which refrigerants one is working with. Thanks 🏊🚣⛵

@richlikeg3722 Год назад

Thanks for the video. I’ve always wonder how the HVAC companies get the refrigerant when they pump down the unit and haul it away.😅

@diyhvacguy Год назад

Now you know! :)

@herculestubalado906 5 дней назад

Thanks!

@AviewFromUnder 10 месяцев назад

I am new to this AC tech stuff, I am struggling to understand the role of using non certified recovery bottles. What can you do with it after you have recovered? Do you just put it under your stairs for 50 years? Or can you return theres bottles somehow? will they be accepted by anyone?

@diyhvacguy 10 месяцев назад

You can reuse the refrigerant in another old r22 system as long as it’s not being “sold”

@TacoTurtle_fromearth2nd Месяц назад

Thanks for being educating the recovery steps. May you please let me know what kind of yellow hose connect from recovery machine to the recovery tank? I am new to HVAC and DYI for my home. I already have the Appion hose (APPION 3/8' DIA. HOSE, 4-FOOT, 1/4'FL TO 1/4'FL - MH380004AAY). I bought this hose for vaccum procedure. Could I use this hose to connect from recovery machine to the recovery tank (of course at the outlet port). May you please advise?

@diyhvacguy Месяц назад

Yes you absolutely can. As long as it has 1/4” attachment points as that’s standard 👍🏼

@TacoTurtle_fromearth2nd Месяц назад

@@diyhvacguy Thanks so much for your quick replied.

@frankrodriguez1977 Год назад

This is awesome, I have r22 in my system and i have a small leak somewhere and its expensive to recharge. This might be a good investment for a diy fix. Thanks

@PeteGaughenbaugh1 Год назад

There are alternatives to R22. R427a, MO99, Bluon, R407c, and others currently cost about 1/3 the cost of real R22. THe current wholesale cost of R22 is around $1300 for a bottle of refrigerant; while the alternatives vary from around $350-400. But, yeah, a leaking system needs to be either repaired or replaced.

@w8what575 Год назад

Repair it! Don’t fall for the aluminum scam! And Freon is methane and propane

@RichardMyers-gx5fw 2 месяца назад

For beginners especially remove Schrader valves before applying heat

@sykotictendencies6032 Год назад

How do you like that recovery unit ? Just curious if you think over the long run will it last .

@diyhvacguy Год назад

It seemed super solid. I can’t give it a long term review but so far it has been great!

@deucedawg01 4 месяца назад

Would this work to recover freon from a car?

@henryespinal56 Год назад

Hi dave i have a question, Can you pump down a r410a heat pump condenser? I believe the condenser have 2 pressure switches, low and high. Please let me know. Thank you

@diyhvacguy Год назад

Yes you can. I don’t believe you need to mess with the switches but it’s possibly you’d need to jump the high pressure switch. I think I’ve done a 410a pump down without having to mess with jumping anything

@henryespinal56 Год назад

@@diyhvacguy thank you buddy, all the videos you do are very helpfully

@user-pe8lm2qk8u Год назад

GOOD!

@Ed-rf2wu 9 месяцев назад

Can you make a video on how to move a working ac unit to a different location. I get that we can transfer all the r22 in the unit, but when you move it to the new location how do you get a vacuum on the newly attached copper?

@w8what575 Месяц назад

Wouldn’t the king valve be locking the Freon inside the actual unit and u would still be able to use the high and low side valves to pull a vacuum on the lines that go into the home to the coils and once u have them where u need them…u can just open up the king valve again and let the Freon flow into the lines …? Idk…I’m really new to this and am a hands on learner so this is difficult to grasp until I get to do it myself lol

@brocklagunas3055 Год назад

So will there be any issues with the recovery tank if you didn’t vacuum it first? I watched another video that neglected to mention that step…..😮😢

@balint133 Месяц назад

yes, refrigreant will be contaminated with air and becomes useless...

@FamilyChannelfun32 Месяц назад

What does that filter dryer do ?

@seagel1000 10 месяцев назад

Greetings! I’ve been watching your videos which are super helpful! One big problem with this tank. It is not DOT Approved and the facilities I have visited will not take it because of the lack of conformity the way the tank being built. I looked further in to the DOT-4BA400 and the collar of the tank is very close to the top of th valves, no stamping/engraving on the tanks. Apart from this, I’m sure there are other guidelines I’m not aware of that may lack from the Vevor tank. Hope this information may be helpful to others with the same problem I’m encountering and Amazon will stop selling this until Vevor can get this rectified with DOT.

@timzalusky 10 месяцев назад

It looks like the gray tank is DOT certified but not the cheaper ones. Will pay the extra money for DOT.

@peldongames6582 Год назад

You aren’t allowed to use recovered refrigerant in systems that are owned by other people. Also if recovering from a unit with a burned out compressor you wouldn’t want to reuse that refrigerant. Other than that good video

@PigeonMayne 13 дней назад

watch me

@rickgreen9619 10 месяцев назад

Good, detailed information if you're trying to learn HVAC skills like me. The question I have is about the manifold set you use in the video. The one you use is made by Vevor, and your tool store lists a set by Yellow Jacket. Are they both just as good?

@fifiadera4682 14 дней назад

I've used both types of manifold both vevor and yellow jacket. They are both good brands

@markchidester6239 4 месяца назад

Nice. Do automotive gauges work or are the fittings different? Adapters available if different? Do HVAC guys recover old refrigerant when doing a replacement and then sell it when repairing another old system?

@balint133 Месяц назад

legally you are not allowed to reuse recovered refrigerant apart from putting it back to the original owner's equipment. lot of contractors repurpose recovered refrigerant though.

@andreitsourkan5235 8 месяцев назад

To the author. When removing Schrader cores from the service ports during evacuation is required? Thank you

@diyhvacguy 8 месяцев назад

Nope, it just takes a few minutes longer

@JoeCnNd 9 месяцев назад

Can this handle r410a?

@vietdo1865 2 месяца назад

When you do your next reclaim do you have to vacuum the recovery tank again.

@diyhvacguy 2 месяца назад

Nope, once it has positive pressure it’s good to go 👍🏼 we are giving away a recovery machine in one of our upcoming monthly giveaways. All you have to do is become a support the channel member to be entered. You can find it on our home page, there is a join button 👍🏼 we have some awesome other giveaways coming up too. One of which is a solar mini split! cheers

@deeeyewhy5949 2 месяца назад

Can you use just a regular pump instead of the expensive reclaim Pump?

@Bizija123 Месяц назад

@biglon74 2 месяца назад

would you clean the refrigerant???

@Bizija123 Месяц назад

Why can’t you recover the refrigerant directly into the tank? Since the A/C system is pressurized, wouldn’t the gas flow into the vacuumed tank? Or is the recovery machine necessary because not all of it will flow out?

@harryalbert9737 18 дней назад

It would reach an equilibrium pressure where the pressure remaining in the unit is equal to the pressure in the tank, leaving refrigerant in the unit.

@jasontaylor9871 5 месяцев назад

How about that accumulator that's iced over and full of liquid refrigerant?

@michaelmckenna9022 Месяц назад

Take a temperature and pressure on the tank to find out if someone else charged it with another refrigerant. Mixed refrigerants are a big no no and cost a lot to dispose of.

@BabbyGuavaandfriends 11 месяцев назад

FYI, many of those Vevor recovery tanks from Amazon are not DOT certified

@2011652 Год назад

so if you want to reuse the refrigerant you can use the liquid side on the recovery tank?

@diyhvacguy Год назад

Yesir

@2011652 Год назад

thank you

@tjslbfyt98 11 месяцев назад

@@diyhvacguy if you can make a video showing that, that would be great

@samelloit602 Год назад

Like to see an A coil cleaning

@diyhvacguy Год назад

I’ll be doing a video on that soon!

@the_teknomads Год назад

Have you published the video on getting EPA 608 certification?

@diyhvacguy Год назад

Yes! Look in my library and you will find it there :)

@jerryj7411 Год назад

So when you recover can you use that freon on another machine

@diyhvacguy Год назад

Yes, you just aren’t allowed to “sell” it to a customer

@seadweller8458 4 дня назад

Isnt it against the law to recover r22 and add it back into a system. It has to be turned in

@moroteseoinage 6 месяцев назад

How much does this machine cost?

@nelubumbar3806 Год назад

a link where you bought that vacuum hose if possible

@diyhvacguy Год назад

www.trutechtools.com/Accutools-A10757-1-TruBlu-Starter-Evacuation-Kit They’re spendy but worth their weight in gold. Use discount code qualityhvac for 8% off your order! Cheers

@nelubumbar3806 Год назад

@@diyhvacguy Thank you!

@AdalbertoPerez-zq8ln 2 месяца назад

We’re can I buy that small torch set?

@diyhvacguy 2 месяца назад

On our Amazon store. You can find a link in the video description 👍🏼

@jeffreylamb160 Месяц назад

kinda weird that you recovered liquid refrigerant into the tank with the tank right side up... always been informed that the tank is flipped upside down when recovering as a liquid. then when high side gets to 50psig, you open low side on manifold to recover remaining vapor.

@OnTheToolsWithSal Месяц назад

Should have used a scale and written the Tare weight of the recovery tank on it as well as the total so you know how much you got in the tank.

@TexasEngineer 10 месяцев назад

What did you do with the refrigerant in the machine?

@diyhvacguy 10 месяцев назад

This video showed how to pump it into the tank 👍🏼

@diyhvacguy 10 месяцев назад

You can use it on your person units or friends but legally aren’t allowed to “sell” recovered refrigerant.

@ryankendrick86 8 месяцев назад

Question, does the HVAC compresssor oil come out too when you recover the refrigerant?

@jesseruiz2337 2 месяца назад

I was informed by an ac tech that u should not re-use recovered refrigerant because it's dirty and may have contamination.

@stevencorlew8956 Год назад

Was that brazing rod or silver solder?

@diyhvacguy Год назад

Brazing rod. Silver solder comes in a roll. Brazing rod comes in sticks

@stevencorlew8956 Год назад

@@diyhvacguy good point

@sailingwiththegods538 2 дня назад

I would just sell the R22 to the supply house and get reclaimed to refill. Makes no sense to use refrigerant somewhere else when it's not above board and you don't have to actually pay for it. Using it in your own equipment is perfectly fine, but not anyone else's.