I've binge watched all your prong collar videos and am using one on my 8 month old Malinois. Is it a temporary training thing, do you stop using it after a while (like a few months) or do you continue to use it always? Prong collar works great, but she seems to get worse on the non-prong collar.
@Luxury Fred can I ask why you would stop using it? Are you only using it during training/ walking? As they should never be left on. Personally, if I have taken a dog (mine or a clients) off a flat collar or harness and put it on a prong or ecollar, it was definitely for a reason... if your dog is bad on a flat collar, honestly, I wouldn't risk taking the prong off, unless I've got some specific training goals. Are you a member of Robert's online training school? I'm pretty sure he addresses this issue in one of his member videos. 😊
@@balancedk9trainer Hi. Yes, only using it for training and walking, never leave it on. She (8 month old Malinois) is very high energy and pulls hard on a flat collar like if she sees another dog or a person she wants to greet. She is perfect on the prong collar, but pulls a lot if I happen to walk her without it.
Not every tool works for every dog. SO TRUE. I had to get a thicker one for my smaller pittie. She had so much skin, the thinner one didn't get any reaction from her. I only corrected her with the collar when absolutely necessary. I used voice commands and growling because she responded to growling. I just lost her about a week ago and I am lost without her. My Malinois is 14 and 1/2 and still acts like a puppy aside from the arthritis. Great training technique. I don't like heavy handed "trainers".
I sure hope you get this. Two years ago we got our Belgian Malinois. For a full year prior to us getting her we did an enormous amount of research to make sure what we were getting was going to fit our family. You played a key role in us making that decision. We literally watched every one of your videos. My wife and I would find a good video and send it to the kids and we could hear your intro song playing through the bedroom doors. It was pretty funny. My family and I just wanted to say thank you. Thank you for giving us the knowledge, courage and wisdom to know what we were getting into and how to train our Deogye. She has completely changed all of our lives. It may sound silly but she brought a family that is already extremely tight even closer together. I really do wish every family could feel the love of an animal. The world would be such a happier place. Anyways I really just wanted to thank you from the very bottom of my heart. Deogye and I do everything together. She really has changed my life and the lives of my entire family. This is because of you. Because you take the time to make these videos and educate people your actually changing lives. Your making the world a better place. Seriously man. Not trying to sound corny. You have changed all of our lives and we thank you. Sincerely and very very thankful Shane in Boca
It warms my heart to read a comment like yours, the Belgian Malinois bread is special and process to my heart, i have had 3, i’m so happy you you did your research and found quality information not based on hype or fear.
@@ericmartinson8910 Thanks man! Yes they truly are an amazing breed! I actually went through many avenues of research but Roberts knowledge was by far the best I found. Sure wish I could shake his hand and say a proper thank you.
@@shanescholtz1608 I may be speaking out of turn however here I go. Robert does what he does because he cares, about doing the right thing and strengthening the bond between us and our animal partners, my current Belgian Malinois, has saved my life, seriously. I won’t get in the specifics in this form but I’m not saying that casually. I believe you have already given Robert the highest praise, which was doing your research learning about breed, and preparing yourself for the commitment, you have my respect, you can PM any time
Thank you so much for posting this. These comments make my work worthwhile. I am honored that you took my path and made it work for you and your pup. Thank you again!!!!
After a really bad walk with my 10 week old Mal girl, where she pulled and pulled, and tried to walk me, I put one of these prong collars on her. Her first reaction was "WTF??!!" and a little bit of attitude, and a "you sneaky bastard, I thought I was in charge!" look. Then she figured it out in about 30 seconds that yes, I was in charge now, not her. It made walks not just tolerable, but FUN again, for both dog and human. Beginner's luck? I did a bunch of things wrong, slipped it over her head, etc. However, she's never really fought it after that first day.
Whoever considered themselves experienced handlers/trainers/owners, should watch. A lot of very valuable information, regarding communication and positive results, very thorough explanations here, and more so in the member’s section
Especially you should learn basics about dogs that you lack. Max now is a disordered dog, because of this incompetent bullshit that doesn't deserve the name dogtraining.
@@saarlooswolfhund6237 If you understood animal behavior you would never promote breeding wolves to domesticated dogs. Not fair to either. You are not the least bit credible.
I watched another trainer on RU-vid show using the prong collar and made it look easy. However, when I tried it on my dog, I noticed she was uncomfortable (looking to the ground like in this video). I instinctively knew that there needed to be an understanding from my dog of what to expect with the pressure and how to respond, so I took a step back and allowed her to get the feel before actually walking her on it. I'm glad this video confirmed my instincts.
Great video! People need to remember, a prong collar is simply a tool, just as the clicker, flat collar, harness, Halti etc are, tools themselves are NOT dangerous, it is a tool using the tool that can make it dangerous!! ;)
This is a fantastic video on prong collar introduction. I just order 2 herm spengers and I'm really excited to get started with this. Every time my dogs constantly choke themselves on a flat leash I die a little inside. Prongs are exactly what we both need to be happier and healthier. I used one very briefly on my first pup and quickly gave it up because I never looked into how to train her with it. So looking forward to redeeming myself and taking us on some nice walks soon!
I feel so bad for my first dog he was a lab reactive to dogs , I was so unexperienced and uneducated and he was such a good dog … He died at 11 yrs old happy and knowing he was loved . But I made mistakes ☹️ Now I have this GSD puppy I am ready to learn and avoid the mistakes I did . I am so determined to give my pup the perfect training ever in memory if my late lab.
I have a 11 week old mini schnauzer. About to start going on walks. Is this too early to introduce to the prong collar? He’s in between size to where I can’t have an even number of prongs on both sides. Is that ok?
Thanks - great video to start the New Year. I have seen very good IGP trainers just go right into jerking the dog about, with no teaching of the concept of pressure and release (and as you say this is not a one session concept for the dog - it needs developed over time). And of course backing up the release of pressure with a reward. Thank you.
I'm starting this training with my GSD pup, he's 14 weeks and I'm curious, should I do this training when he's well-rested and full of energy? Or should I wait until after playtime when he's kinda tired? Or somewhere in between?
Why do you need to use a prong collar at all? Surely positive reinforcement is a better way to train no pressure on the neck required from any sort of collar.
When i first started training many years ago i used to use check chains until i was shown a kinder way to train. Since then my dogs have always worn flat collars & been trained by my voice or body language. People in here seem to believe that you need to use pain/discomfort to train a dog, you don't!
I am a balanced trainer and I support the prong collar when used correctly and in the right instances which are far and in between. However, to your point I will say there are many fools on the opposite end of the spectrum who support scam trainers like Joel Beckman as he practically snaps dogs necks on a daily basis and calls it training.
I was advised not to use a prong collar on a mali from a reputable trainer. He recommended using a choke collar paired with an e collar with e collar set on low. Any input on this? Thanks
Thanks for the video. Is the idea to use it for a specific period of time, like a few months and then stop or will you always have to use one for the dog, as he grows up?
@@RobertCabralDogs Thank you and thank you for your videos, I rescued an 8 month old Malinois two months ago and they have been very helpful. We lucked out, she is very friendly to both dogs and people.
I absolutely believe in using the proper training tools for the dog, so I'm not one of those quacks who freaks out seeing a prong collar on a dog. A single video that explains the dangers of the incorrect use of various collars from a harness to choker, to prong and the proper use of each would be great. There are too many idiots out there who use the tools incorrectly. They are the true cause of why these things are getting banned!
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Unrestricted? Sure. Unconditional? No. Dogs do things to directly or indirectly benefit themselves. That's the nature of the dogs and a key piece of information when training any dog. You're teaching your dog what is within their best interest.
@@watchmoivies123 Go to his website linked in the pinned comment. Under Shop, there's a link to products he recommends, including a Herm Sprenger Prong Training collar.
@Robert Cabral could you please do a podcast or a video and elaborate on the fight-or-flight response with the leash? I'm sure that's what my dog has she's perfectly fine other dogs coming up to her off-leash but if I'm walking her on a leash it's a dog fight every single time a loose dog comes up to us! Would you consider that fight or flight? I am not using a prong collar
how long do you think a dog should be on a prong collar? is it something that should be used for the life of the dog if it calls for it or does that mean you didnt train the dog right if he needs this all the time?
This video is 9'16 minutes, and not once Robert here said, you have this to do with every puppy. It's just a video , IF you have to do it, you know how to do it properly. Now, if you don't know if your dog requires a prong, you have no business to use one. Get a trainer, or at least someone with a clue. Positive only are butthurt with this, on the same time shelters are full of failures of positive only trainers. How can using a tool be wrong, if it saves a dogs life? You can go a long way with positive training, it should be the cornerstone of everybodys dog training. The better you are at it, the less you need escape and avoidance training,that is correct. But you can't get ALL the way with EVERY dog, there is always the exeption, and this exeptions are far more than you think. When i think on my own words here, the dog you can train with only positive methods is the exeption. Most of the time, it's the dogs on the end of the spectrum. It's really the high drive, high motivated dogs, or the dogs with no drive at all, that you can train this way. I can give a high drive dog focus and buikd engagement with me, so he does'nt even see anything else. The squirell running up a tree? Don't care, i want this tug toy NOW! Same when i have a , let's say a basset with no drive at all. Squirell up a tree? Don't care, i am way to lazy to go after it. The dogs in the middle ground, wich are far more, are the ones giving you problems. They are motivated to move, but not motivated enough to forget anything else just for a tug toy or a ball. They are the ones that are easily distracted by a squirell, or even worse, by a jogger or playing children. Now if i have a dog that chases playing children, i have to het rid of this behaviour, no matter the cost. And if you tell me now, you can train hunting behaviour away with treats and positive only, i know right away you are lying to me and have an agenda. Chasing things is an intrinsic motivated behaviour, much more powerful than almost anything else, because if you think of it, nine out of ten hunts are not sucsessfull in a wolf pack. If the wolves now think, alright, this hunting thing sucks, not gonna do that anymore, they go extinct. So don't be ridiculous and use the proper tools for the job when the need arises. If you don't know when this is, get a trainer, who knows what he is doing.
This makes perfect sense! Thanks for explaining this in such a great way. I don’t have my baby girl yet. (I’m trying to learn as much as I can now before we “find” each other.) I was never a fan of this type of collar, but now I understand! I can see how it will streamline our training and make things easier for both of us. 🙏
Can you use a prong collar with an E-Collar? And if so, what is the order from the ears? I have the 2.25mm HS for each of my GSDs, also have a leather Y connector to attach the prong & their tag collars for security which attaches to the leash. I’m just not sure where the E-Collar should be placed. Thanks for all you do making your videos!
It's the same concept we teach our horses to yield from pressure. I don't understand why those principles never really made it into dog training. I am from Europe where the prong collar is banned in most countries. Thank you for teaching people how to use it properly. Gute Arbeit, mach weiter so!
@@StaticResurreXion then why do dogs get them embedded in their necks? Why do they cause skin reactions in dogs? Why do they Yelp if you pull on it a little? These are all real experiences. I don’t see in any way how this is safer with a harness. I’ve literally fit it to my own arm and tested it and felt pain. No offense, but I’m not buying it. Let’s just agree to disagree🤷🏻♀️
@@StaticResurreXion you seriously needed the last word dude? Okay so you think that something poking into a dog’s neck is not as bad as something flat? Yeah something can go wrong with every tool, but there is literally something poking at their neck which screams disaster. I’ve seen enough to know that they can be a very dangerous tool. If it’s such a useful tool then why is it so easy to misuse ? Plus isn’t a prong collar supposed to be a temporary thing? Why are there owners who use it all the time even when the dog is sick? Why do owners get viciously defensive when you question the use of it? The whole thing is sick to me and I really wish you could see the damage it does. I literally fit one to my own wrist and pulled on it gently and it hurt.
@@StaticResurreXion so how is it safer than a harness then? How is putting something that pokes into a dog’s neck safer than something that holds their body? How about the people who have put it on their neck and it DOES hurt? I’ve seen several. Their perspective isnt any less valid because it doesn’t fit your narrative. No sympathy for your mom? What do you want me to say?🤣🤡prong collars break and malfunction too. You’re funny for Calling me brainwashed when you have the same 3 arguments to support the prong and they are all weak arguments. You made it personal just because I didn’t say what you wanted. You’re funny “you don’t care about the people or dogs hurt with your tools “ when you LITERALLY ignored the fact that one of your beloved tools got embedded in a dog’s neck and caused skin irritation on another (not to mention caused yelping on 2 dogs when pulled) You don’t see that happen nearly as often with a flat collar because, oh wait, there’s nothing poking them directly in the neck🤡you keep projecting your bs though. You keep telling yourself this nonsense because you benefit financially. You had to get your last word in there, you couldn’t respect that someone disagrees with you. I didn’t call you names or get nasty with you. You started that🥴which brings me to my final point that you still didn’t answer, why do prong users get viciously defensive when you dare question the prong?🤔
Can I ask, how would it look if the dogs coat [fur] was too dense for the dog to feel the difference between your prong and a leather martingale? Thank you. Mine reacts to leash pressure the same, but I get a "little" more control with the 2.25, should I use 3.0?
@@patmunro3531 I use a 3mm with one of my client's dogs (45KG GSD), the 2.25 just didn't penetrate very well and just got lost in all that fur ! It's a fiddle for sure but no harder than the 2.25 as the prongs are longer so you can get more leverage - pinch as close to the end of the prongs as you can is all I can advise. You can get prong collars with a buckle/clasp on them - never used one but some people swear by them.
@@TeslaNick2 My fingers are not strong enough!! She is shaved for the ecollar. When on the receiver has all but disappeared!! She is NOT longcoat GSD!!
You ought to work on learning how to train dogs better instead of relying on cruel techniques that are punitive, counterproductive, and lazy. You are violating your own trade organization's guidelines.
I never got the idea of using the tools at hand as being lazy. Is it lazy for a chef to use an oven, rather than lighting a fire? And if he’s lazy and “counterproductive”, how could he train his dog to this level? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OyIPzxEu7j8.html
Also, is it really, “punitive”, to give the dog a correction when it’s trying to bite someone? Is a few small pinching feelings on the dog’s neck, really harsher than a Cane Corso’s bite of 700 psi?
Which video were you watching? Do you actually expect us to subscribe to the fallacy that tools are innately cruel? Prong collars are far less likely to damage a dog's neck or trachea than any "gentle" flat buckle collar.
How young would you introduce a puppy to prong? As soon as leash training, or waiting till initial leash training has been learnt? Many thanks great content.
depends on the dogs temperament, if the puppy is super confident you can do it earlier than if the dog is timid. It's likely that the tool you use WILL be the leash training, you will use it because you weren't able to get the results you want without the tool. But basically if you have a puppy that you can't even walk because it's pulling everywhere, it's probably ready for a tool.
@@BigBADSTUFF69 thanks for the advice, luckily didnt need one for my staffie x mastiff he is good as gold, but am getting a puppy border collie which is quite high drive in comparison so was looking for a bit of knowledge on that. Thanks for your reply 👍
@@shanedrury4742 yes I have trained a number of border collies on sheep and cattle, they are really cool dogs but have an order of magnitude higher exercise requirements. I would definitely ecollar condition so that you can run him off leash, on higher drive dogs you can generally use more pressure, and need more pressure, but do it right and you won't have issues. Follow Roberts methods and you should be in good shape, but be prepared for the exercise requirements and expect to run the dog (not walk, walks don't do anything) morning and night and consider doing some other high level dog sports to keep the mind occupied, they are so smart that if you don't keep them busy they will be a problem. But they are really cool dogs if you can handle it!
@@BigBADSTUFF69 I have tried as best i can to research the breed and am prepared to do what i need to. I plan to get her into agility as their is a course and club near me. Thankyou for your advice mate. E collars are frowned on in uk but im still not afraid to use one. Cant believe they have restricted tools to use for dogs. Again thanks 😊
You said that the dog is going to go away from the pressure-which is you. How do you think that will effect recall? Keep it up with the micro aggression and this dog is going to end up aggressive toward the handler.
Uhh, have you ever watched any of his other videos? He’s trained plenty of dogs before. Here’s a video of Goofy doing tricks ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OyIPzxEu7j8.html.
