How to Remove a STUCK Drum Brake

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How to remove a stubborn brake drum. Watch how to remove a brake drum that is stuck on. I go through the steps so anyone can remove their drum brake.
In this case the drum adjuster was stuck so first try to get it off by wiggling back and forth. Then spray penetrating oil to remove rust between the drum and the seat. Then hit it with a hammer hard. This should free the drum if it is just rusted on. If the drum doesn't come off, then your brakes are probably stuck open preventing the drum from coming off. If this is the case, cut or drill out the holding pins from the back (that hold the shoes in place) and remove the screws to the brake cylinder and then pull the drum off.
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Комментарии : 3 тыс.

@martymckay297 2 года назад

Started in the day light and still working past sunset! Such a trooper

@markgarcia7553 Год назад

Thank you. I was having a heck of a time getting my wife’s car rear brake drums off and found your video. I was able to get them off using a chisel from the backside like you showed with the crowbar. Thank You Much!

@MrMariotwo 5 лет назад

It's about time somebody actually shows how long it takes to do something. I'm tired of seeing people taking things off so easily. They just want to make you feel inferior for not being able do it as quick as they do. You always run into time-consuming things that Don't go right when working on your car. Thanks Chris for showing the real-time it takes to do something. This took all day!

@nalgas5569 4 года назад

This video was to show how long it takes to do a job when you dont have any clue what you are doing. He is using carpentry tools on a God damn brake job

@Dozav7 3 года назад

@@nalgas5569 - the hammer didn’t matter, but you do you.

@renedrudge4673 3 года назад

Just do it the right way.and if you don't know find a manual.

@squirrelcovers6340 3 года назад

Sounds like a personal problem, mario.

@josephquinn8019 2 года назад

@@Dozav7 you ever see a claw fly of a hammer due to the vibration of hitting metal. I did as a kid. and I did it. try not being so ignorant

@godygody8991 3 года назад

What I like from this video is that you never give up, look like it took some time but you finally did it 💥

@chrisfix 3 года назад

Took a few hours but I got it!

@zlette 3 года назад

@ChrisFix replying to a 4 month old comment on a 7 yo video. Nice!

@armyreaper63 8 лет назад

for one thing... dont use a claw hammer... use a Big hammer and hit it like it owes you money

@armyreaper63 8 лет назад

+TheAstro30 put the lug nuts on and run them down flush with the end of the stud... that way if you hit 1 chances are you won't damage it.. or just a normal nut if they have them stupid caps on the lug nuts

@0num4 8 лет назад

+james oldham Good tip, even if I never use it. I figure if I really screw something up, the cost will teach me a lesson in better hammer-swinging precision :)

@okiebass1390 8 лет назад

+james oldham the bigger the better. in this case a 3lbs hammer wouldve done the job.

@billhyslop117 8 лет назад

+imsolucky81 You boys forget the drum was wiggling the whole time. I would have cracked the bleeder. Correct me if I am wrong.

@armyreaper63 8 лет назад

+Bill Hyslop not sure what you would be hoping to do with opening the bleeder?

@aydanangus 5 лет назад

Wow chris sounds cronical depressed in his older videos.

@JustAnotherCarChannel 5 лет назад

I think all this led to his current, *HEY GUYS, CHRISFIX HERE*

@Akyomi777 5 лет назад

ik right

@Dan-gu4bg 5 лет назад

haha no shit

@user-bg2oi4bz3p 5 лет назад

He's making money now. Money can lift one out of depressing poverty.

@iwillbeCD 5 лет назад

ofc.. he knew he had to spend alot of hours to get this off XD Seriously it went from day to night!

@oliverjd26 3 года назад

Thank you for having the patience to do this video. It has greatly helped me with my brake drums this afternoon!!!

@jasosmurray137 4 года назад

I mean it was useful. It made me realize that I had my ebrake on

@chrisfix 4 года назад

Haha that happens to the best of us sometimes!

@Outdoorcookwarereviews 4 года назад

Smae here🙄😂

@reanash2096 4 года назад

@@chrisfix replying to a 7 year old video, my man chris...need more people like you

@askaboutRudyV 4 года назад

Haha me too (hashtag, hahahaha)

@blocko0780 4 года назад

Lol innit

@wiggyb854 4 года назад

You got more patience than me, I had to have a little laugh, you started with daylight and ended up with a light.😂

@johngoldsberry3976 4 года назад

I've been working on cars for 45 years and I never drilled the anchor pins out

@kwitwerikok8o863 4 года назад

Never saw that either.

@rooftopvoter3015 3 года назад

Shrink brake shoes all the way in by backing off adjuster is the first thing you do, even if brake drum has lip on it from brake shoe wear, it will clear that edge. Wailing and flailing on it to the midnight hour ain't the way you get it off. A claw hammer?? Movement early on means it is catching, heat was not required. Nice brake shoes by the way, throw the drums out as they are probably way beyond the max diameter now anyway. This has to be taking place in northern climes; never have this in Florida.

@Dooguy 3 года назад

@@epic_smoke5203 ya thats great IF you had the drum off...hence the video

@joevignolor4u949 8 лет назад

It's usually the ridge of rust that builds up around the inside of the drum that holds the drum on. What I do is I remove the drums once a year to inspect the brakes at inspection time. Then before putting the drums back on I use a Dremel tool with a grinding wheel to grind off the rust and get rid of the ridge. As such the ridge never gets too high and my drums never get stuck and they always slide right off. Removing the drums annually also prevents the drums from rusting to the hubs.

@MrCROBosanceros 7 лет назад

I always brush the hubs with thin coat of Anti-Seize lubricant.

@aironnoles5588 5 лет назад

I think his drums had a ridge and seized wheel cylinder .

@jrm163 2 года назад

👍

@demodemo9698 3 года назад

Thank you for the transparency. You could’ve easily edited this video and made it look easy much appreciated

@robertvinscent6568 5 лет назад

VERY first step; Back off the adjustment on the shoes, then everything else you did.

@mikethomas8720 5 лет назад

I was gonna say that. TONS of effort to avoid using a brake spoon (or screwdriver) for 2 minutes

@genericusername1365 5 лет назад

He says in the video that doing that didn't work, so that's why he's showing these other methods.

@scottfirman 5 лет назад

I did that too. Had a 78 chevy Nova both siezed on. I had to cut the drums into pieces with an angle grinder and cut off wheel and a chisel between each stud. I didnt a have a torch, just a propain type like he used. I have never ran into another one like that since eather.

@brass3161 5 лет назад

1. Get a drum brake adjuster tool (very cheap n EXTRA Useful $8? ). 2. Put car up on jack stands n wear safty glasses. 3. Adjust th brakes by removing th oblong grey/black rubber adjuster hole cover boot on backside of drum. 3. Use brake tool pry portion or longish standard tip screwdrvr n stick in hole against th 20-30 star pointed brake adjuster wheel. Use flashlite to see star wheel. 4. Spray rust ease or lube onto star wheel. Looks like a cowboy spur. 5. N it is usually reverse threaded so tighten by prying up n or down n this will allow th shoes room 2 come back closer 2 each other. Releasing them, usually. 6. Now banging on th outer edge of th drum in a cross/star pattern will release th shoes from stuck open-against th drum's inner surface to free of th drum. 7. Once done u will need to re-adjust ur brakes. Get to a safe open space. Drive in reverse n hit brakes hard enough for a slight skid. This will re-adjust rear drum brakes on most cars. Safty first fun second.

@kaffetrakter4174 4 года назад

Some cars doesnt have access hole for the adjuster, for example toyota yaris

@anonmous5916 7 лет назад

don't you hate that?? you working on the car and don't finish before night time.

@numberpirate 6 лет назад

I actually really dislike working on cars in the morning and with project cars of mine I always dig in around 7pm and stop at midnight.

@Sea-rx3bh 6 лет назад

True. But I admire how chris still does this while recording! Superb effort

@nicholassanjayowo8955 6 лет назад

I like to work in the evenings when it is cool outside. But I do hate when it turns night and I am still not done.

@exsicario 6 лет назад

Oh I hate that and you finished with your back broken. ..

@robertking3130 6 лет назад

There is also the problem if it rains and you're outside, can't move the car of course and a puddle forms right where you need to be. The other thing is you can be at a crucial stage and you're called for dinner.

@jamescaison7694 5 лет назад

First thing I learned in a high school metal working class was not to use a claw hammer to strike solid hardened metal. The face of the hammer head is case-hardened and could release shrapnel and caus eye injury. Use a heavy dead-blow hammer and, like on another post, "hit it like it owes you money. BTW, all that heating towards the outer edge of the drum is unnecessary. The fused part is towards the center where the axel flange mates to the drum and at the hole where the two are centered.

@Ripdizzle01 4 года назад

James Caison I’ve ruined bearings by using a torch for too long.

@rustytrident8282 4 года назад

Man respect for being so calm hours later in the video just to take a drum brake off. I would of been yelling at the camera😂

@bruceg1845 4 года назад

seemed to work late into the night

@billthompson5644 6 лет назад

You did it ALL WRONG.... You should have went to MIDAS or FIRESTONE. They would've charged YOU $ 4800.00 for a whole"NEW" rear axle, told you they had to "special order it", and charged you up the @$$ for shipping. But then after you left ,they would have done the exact same thing that you did.

@dw4940 4 года назад

bill thompson they must suggest upsell for extra commission. Most everyone knows not to go to Midas but a friend didn’t know better and bout fell over when he got the estimate on simple brake job! They tried to say his frame was cracked too. Asked the guy to show him and what he pointed out was the edge of weld bead. Total BS.

@kevinmetcalf6371 4 года назад

Lmao sooooo true they got my sister like that.. Then she sued and actually won

@deaghlanfinn-kelly9296 5 лет назад

This video gives people encouragement for here we see real life scenarios, were a whole day going into the evening is used tackling this issue. other videos make everything so clean and sterile where no problems can befall the DIYer, This is the reason I like the videos by Chris and if it was not for the fact that I am disabled I would definitely be a proud patron for the videos Chris produces are informative and real life.

@sarbg35 8 лет назад

I know it's a bad idea but hitting it a lot harder usually works

@AlexGreenwoodUkulele 5 лет назад

How's it a bad idea? Not gonna put more force through it than hitting a pothole at 40.

@robertkorn 5 лет назад

Not a bad idea at all, 20 years of working in the shop and that's how it's done. I come from the salty regions of the northeast, rust is a killer. You get large rust ridges keeping the drum from slipping over the shoes, even backing off the adjusters won't help (and they are usually rusted anyways). Between that and the drum rusting to the hub, the big hammer is the only answer.

@AlexGreenwoodUkulele 5 лет назад

@@robertkorn And then you get these ones where you can't actually get to the adjusters. Fun fucking times. :P

@brass3161 5 лет назад

@MojoPup 6 лет назад

Great videos! The camera work in particular is excellent. They're nice and clear, zoomed in when needed, and you don't prattle on needlessly, but get to the point...really appreciate that. Thanks...

@LockieNZ 3 года назад

Man, really missing that modern day ChrisFix energy! Hahah

@chrisfix 3 года назад

Wasn't as excited to film back then as I was now!

@sheriethomas9931 9 лет назад

The first thing you do with when removing rear drums is to back off the adjustment to move the lining away from the drums. We learnt that at school.

@chrisfix 9 лет назад

Sherie Thomas Thanks for sharing! When your adjuster is seized, this is how I got it off.

@coypatton3160 6 лет назад

But with new vehicles almost all being 4 wheel disc drum brake work apparently is not taught. Not once did he address the adjustment screw. He also fid not show spraying down the center hole which is much more likely to to rust and hold. He did increase the amount of cost of a break job. However this one looked to have been ignored for much too long.

@jimmg8994 6 лет назад

Sherie Thomas How do you do thar?

@dirtyaznstyle 6 лет назад

Coy Patton He mentioned trying the adjustment but when the adjustment screw is broken it’s a moot point. In my experience the wheel hub fits snugly in the slightly recessed area in the center of a brake drum/rotor. It’s between the outside edge of the wheel hub and the inside edge of the recess that corrosion causes a drum/rotor to become stuck. Usually the flat face of the hub has very little corrosion and the center bore of the drum/rotor doesn’t have enough surface area contact to make it as difficult to pop loose.

@michaelmclernon4929 6 лет назад

I believe he already mentioned that the adjusters were seized (rusted) solid.

@garyalexander7674 5 лет назад

Use a bigger hammer. Use PBS blaster works great. Dont peck at it, hit it harder

@dvk578 3 года назад

Lol, HULK SMASH

@lancemarty6078 4 месяца назад

Pb blaster 🤘

@Vivzi 5 лет назад

Man the way you say hey guys chrisfix has changed allot!

@mfma1970 5 лет назад

Depression version

@Vivzi 5 лет назад

Muhammad Faris HAHAHAH IM DYING

@OneDollarNoHoller 6 лет назад

It was encouraging for me to see that you started out while it was daylight and that you were still trying to get them loose when it had actually become dark outside. I often encounter situations like this (e.g., rear drums on my 1st gen Mazda RX-7) and I have often wondered if I was doing something wrong or overlooking an easier way to do it. But, here I see that it even happens to the best of mechanics. That was very helpful from a mental and motivational standpoint. Thank you and keep up the good work!

@rupert1124 7 лет назад

Excellent video. You covered lots of ways of dealing with the problem. And you encouraged lots of other guys to give up some of their knowledge too. Nice one man. Thanks

@chrisfix 7 лет назад

+Rupert Leanna thanks

@jfinaz99 2 года назад

I had the exact same problem 20 yrs ago, wore a lip on the drums that prevented removal. Unfortunately, after finesse failed, I let the pent-up gorilla out. Most memorable was the frustration and cursing I was experiencing, like I wasn't even myself. My neighbor across the street walked over and asked if I was OK. That brought me back to my senses. Too bad your video was around then. Thanks for sharing.

@Andy588tt 10 лет назад

Before attempting to do this safety first the guy didn't mention he had already fitted a safety axel stand and had the trolly jack in place as well fantastic The safety features was there but not mentioned. The problem was the brake shoes were expanded to far into the brake drums which are worn and the shoes are not allowing the drum to slide of. Using releasing fluid is great but the hammer used is to small I think before any hammer is used protect your eyes use safety goggles! rust bits will go everywhere. Use a large ball pain hammer don't tickle it with a claw carpenters hammer hitting at alternative side blows will remove it Remember if the lip inside the drum is to deep the drum will have to be replaced anyway. Andy

@chrisfix 10 лет назад

Thanks for the tips. I dont mention the safety stuff you need to do to get to that point because that is not my job. I was just explaining different methods of getting the drum off. There is too much liability involved in telling people how to jack up a car and use a jack stand and stuff. As for the hammer, I didnt want to damage the bearing with a larger hammer so I just stuck with the little hammer to show how to break the drum free from the hub (it was rusted together). Thanks

@galactica5 6 лет назад

90 percent of the drum brakes being disassembled are not stuck at the studs, they are stuck at the center hub. They rust tight there especially in the "rust belt" states.

@chrisfix 6 лет назад

Thanks for the tip!

@brass3161 5 лет назад

Yeah so spray lube th drum rite near th axle cap n hit it enough that heat from hammer blows break loose th rust grip.

@jac6362 4 года назад

Usually there is a ridge cut into the edge of the drum from the brake shoes. The shoes are expanded out and can stop the drum from sliding off. Given the movement at the studs and at the center bore, I suspect that this is where the resistance is coming from.

@rooftopvoter3015 3 года назад

Nevr Seez around hub prevents this

@hotrodray6802 3 года назад

The center hole is precise and keeps the drum shoe surface at the specific radius so there is no pulsation. Easily rusts.

@VonFowler-fw3yh 4 года назад

Chris, Ive had many a drum stuck on especially my old 40s -60s army trucks. I spray the oil yes, but I take an air chisel type tool, without the chisel attachment of coarse and insert a flat blunt attachment and vibrate the area between the studs and it always has come off. I coat the contact area between the drum and hub with anti seize to make sure it never happens again.

@chrisfix 4 года назад

Thanks for the tip!

@noellfrilles 7 лет назад

man you just have to whack it real good and it should just come right off. stop whacking it like you're using a purse bruh.

@chrisfix 7 лет назад

+Noell Frilles thanks for sharing your tip.

@brianw4brian 6 лет назад

Noell Frilles sometimes the drum gets micro cracks around the stud holes.

@porgame6537 6 лет назад

Noell Frilles

@MrEricblane 6 лет назад

Sometimes you just gotta whack it with your tip.

@imnota 6 лет назад

Except one of my dad's friend did that once and broke the fucking drum, the center was still attached.

@jamescourier1545 5 лет назад

For drums that are stuck on because of corrosion/rust, an oxy/fuel torch is the best solution to this problem IMO. Simply heat between each stud for a few seconds- and the drum will expand a tiny bit when heated. Then tapping with a big hammer will release the drum. Works every time! :-D

@walkerduncalf8630 10 месяцев назад

Thank you man, this saved me so much time, they were stuck on and nobody in the shop could get them off, ran the torch in between the studs and smashed it a hammer twice and pop, they came right off

@jamescourier1545 10 месяцев назад

@@walkerduncalf8630😃😃😃

@johnjude2685 3 года назад

Today my son mentioned your videos and agree you young man are exilent and probably the best help one you tube. I hope you realize that your skills are helping many fixes and keep our autos on the road safely Thanks for Teaching Sir

@chrisfix 3 года назад

Thanks a lot!

@flyingtjar007 9 лет назад

You need a bigger hammer... You said it yourself, don't be afraid to hit it hard. it looks like you were choking up to much and barely swinging. When doing drum brakes i have a 4 pound brass hammer i use to free up the drums. I like the idea of drilling out the pins for the shoes. I haven't heard of that before.

@chrisfix 9 лет назад

jared thomas Thanks Jared. The idea was to show a different method if you cant get the hammer to work.

@jimmg8994 6 лет назад

Dude- That looked Like it took all day... and it always does for me too. Thanks for the tips.

@leahwells5692 3 года назад

Spent an hour with a hammer and then got the drum off in 30 seconds. Thank you Chirs. Wish I watched this first x

@mlmiks 4 года назад

Your doing a great job Cris. I love watching your vids. To all you know it alls. Make your own videos. If your so genius. Cris keep it up👍

@xLPDz 6 лет назад

Thank you toyota for having those screw holes in the drum saved me big time

@josephg.3370 4 года назад

What size and tpi bolt do need for that?

@xLPDz 4 года назад

@@josephg.3370 M8x1.25

@josephg.3370 4 года назад

You're awesome! Thank you so much!

@xLPDz 4 года назад

@@josephg.3370 This was on an 03 corolla, I don't know if bolts are different on other models.. Check toyota nation dot com forum

@toddmayer6859 2 месяца назад

I had a local shop replace my brake shoes about 6 years ago. I wish he had watched your video! He told me he tried a long pry bar and could not get the drums off. He said he spent 8 hours on the brakes, but being the "nice" guy he was, only charged me for 4 hours. He used a cutting torch to get the drums off. I happened to see your video after he had done the work ... and charged me $800. I need my truck for work, so it was like he was keeping my truck hostage. If he had drilled out the pins as you did, the drums would have come off. Needless to say, I am doing all the brake work on my truck. Shoes last a long time, but they are due to be replaced so I'm doing all the research needed. Thanks much for your helpful info!

@Cayleb365 Месяц назад

This video is what NOT to do

@wrzl1675 4 года назад

In all my decades I’ve never seen a drum stuck that bad. Good thinking on figuring that one out

@chrisfix 4 года назад

It was pretty frozen!

@michaeltyre38 3 года назад

How about backing off on the brake shoes to get by the lip worn into the drum 🤷‍♂️

@Cayleb365 Месяц назад

This is a great video of showing what not to do, almost everything is what you shouldn’t do

@chrisfix Месяц назад

Thanks for the feedback!

@Cayleb365 Месяц назад

@@chrisfix 👍 don’t wanna mislead people

@joevignolor4u949 3 года назад

I remove my rear drums once a year at inspection time to check the shoes. While the drums are removed I grind off any lip that may have formed on the drum during the previous year. I never have any trouble getting the drums off. They always just slide right off.

@chrisfix 3 года назад

Thanks for the tip!

@Ridiiiooo 3 года назад

I thought you said ear drums 😂

@Ginoeugen88 10 лет назад

the hammer always does the job... a biger hammer

@Ginoeugen88 3 года назад

@TOM ALWAYS!!!

@bobfortner6940 2 месяца назад

Thank you, I just came in from outside trying to get my back drum off to replace everything, and no luck. The star adjuster is stuck and there seems to be a bit of a lip on the drum so it is not letting the drum come off. So I came in to look on RU-vid for an answer, and you gave it to me! Thank you, very much!

@jameso1447 7 лет назад

The key to using the adjustment tool is that you must hold the locker-arm away from it. First, insert a straight-edge screw-driver into the slot, and find out which way the adjuster can spin. It will resist spinning in one direction. That is direction you want to go. In the other direction, it will spin 1/16 of a turn (or so) and 'click'. Insert a long, skinny screwdriver into the slot perpendicular to the surface, through the slot, past the adjustment cylinder, and against the metal piece that prevents it from rewinding or loosening the brake shoe. Hold it away from the teeth of the adjustment cylinder and, while holding this away, use the straight-edge screwdriver to turn the adjustment cylinder in the direction it would not go. Requires both hands. This loosens the brake shoes.

@anthonysalonek9462 Год назад

the right way

@michaeldevito5575 3 года назад

Hi Chris fix. Thanks for all your auto fix videos. I'm 72 and no longer do to much work on even my own car. Back in the day though stuck drums were the norm this how we handled this problem. you did well but forgot to use penetrating oil in the part of the drum around the hub where to wheel bearing is you did the lugs but not the hub Spinning the drum to make sure the brakes were not engaged is also needed which you did. Back in the day I also use a 2 or 3 pound mini sledge hammer and tapped the brake drum on its edge closest to the hub where the wheel bearings are and that would also break the drums grip on the axle hub. In essence. A stuck drum. First spin the drum make sure brakes are not applied or holding the drum. Then with penetrating oil spray the lug stud holes and the hub on the axle that the drum sides onto. Then with a 2 or 3 lb mini sledge hammer tao around the drums edge closest to the hub on the axle the drum slides over. Now the drum should easily slide right off. Thanks again. Chris. Fix keep up your great work.

@danwojtanowski5524 6 лет назад

I think all drum brakes should be banned! lol

@Roadstar1602 6 лет назад

They've been outdated for 50 years, but they continue to put them on cheap cars. It's like if they continued to install Windows 3.1 on cheap PCs to save a few bucks.

@kingjlinza 6 лет назад

Roadstar1602 you want to know what I don’t understand? Why are drum brakes cheaper the disc brakes? Drum brakes have more parts to them than disc brakes. That doesn’t make any sense as of why drum brakes are cheaper

@2dogslide 5 лет назад

@@kingjlinza they require less precision.

@Uhdksurvhunter 5 лет назад

And they fucking suck.

@mangbaite8973 5 лет назад

Dan, drum brake last longer n more efficient . it's easier to replace,so after using brake calipers for 4 yrs I replace to drum brake. It's personal choices.

@jaredbartter3692 9 лет назад

your problem is that there is a lip on the open side of the drum, and the pad will catch on it. On the dust shield there is usually a port that allows you to access the pad adjuster, use a small screwdriver to loosen the pads and contract them together, this will let the pads go below the lip on the drum,k and if it wiggles like you had in the beginning it will slide right off,

@bugzie706 6 лет назад

Im sure the adjuster was rusted tight he tried to back the shoes off

@sentient8146 Год назад

I was shown that you put a link from a chain over a stud and using the chain like a short whip and snap it like a whip. Go from stud to stud and off it comes. It worked like a charm. I did protect the stud but man i was thrilled

@bones007able 8 лет назад

the very reason mfrs are moving to disk brakes , a better system , and easier to service... drum brakes just turn into a big lump of rust in a few years...

@chrisfix 8 лет назад

+bones007able I still dont get how drum brakes are cheaper for them to produce.

@Roadstar1602 6 лет назад

Wheel cylinders are cheaper than calipers. It doesn't save a lot, but 2 of them per car times hundreds of thousands of cars, and all of sudden it starts making sense. There are people whose sold job it is to find ways to save a few cents on each vehicle.

@chewybrand238 5 лет назад

No, it's because it is LESS complicated, cheaper to make, and is easier to assemble in the plant.

@Kendalon 5 лет назад

The thing with Drum brakes while harder to service, they last a lot longer than a disk brake system. Hell I have seen vehicles that were 20+ years old 200+k miles and still have fully functional Manufacturer systems and shoes on them.

@sabagamer3052 5 лет назад

They overheat very easily

@ballhawk387 11 месяцев назад

At last a video on this that is realistic! One thing that can really help is using the penetrating lubricant well ahead of time, like days. When using a hammer, I also use a wood block or stick on top of the part I'm banging to prevent damage if I'm not replacing the part.

@jarnosaarinen4583 8 лет назад

A good heavy slide hammer on the inside lip on the drum works very well also!

@chrisfix 8 лет назад

+Jarno Saarinen Great tip! Thanks!

@MrCbell57 Год назад

Most people that attempt auto mechanic work as diy don’t have the right tools. So this actually makes great info about how to get things done even if you are short a hub puller, air pressure, ball peen shop hammer, and other mechanical tools needed to do this quicker. Great work bro. This will help so many people. I’ve seen some of the. Eat auto body pros using claw hammers to pull studs and remove dents in half the time of others using correct tools. A tool is a tool. Using what you got accounts for the tenacity needed to work on Cars, period. Unless a professional and doing b J’s all day everyday . These jobs can sometimes take an entire afternoon to restore. Staying with it is the key. Never give up.

@sendmemes5474 6 лет назад

This is the only car channel I like usually o just watch dirtbike videos

@chrisfix 6 лет назад

Thanks for the support

@MrBigfigga 3 года назад

It's so funny watching his videos from 7 years ago and then from recently. He's so much more melancholy in his old videos. Then his new ones he's super upbeat and excited 😆

@chrisfix 3 года назад

Used to not be as excited to film haha

@MrBigfigga 3 года назад

@@chrisfix yeah can definitely tell lol. Love the videos man. Thank you.

@irooni100 7 лет назад

I THINK YOU FORGOT TO CURSE !

@capndaves 4 года назад

irooni100 i did my one ton the other day i more than made up for his lack of cursing 😂😂

@colehara 4 года назад

In 2 or 3 different languages if possible.

@STARDRIVE 4 года назад

If the return springs are broken, cursing is indeed essential.

@slipknotfan2217 4 года назад

i once got so angry with something on my project car i started to swear in 3 languages 5 minutes in: No kurva doprdele! 30 minutes in: Fucking hell! 1.5 hour in: PERKELE HAISTA VITU!

@lukelorusso154 3 года назад

This dude has way more patience than I could possibly ever have.

@johnjesus971 9 лет назад

Those shoes look perfectly fine, why are you replacing them? LOL

@andyprairiedog 7 лет назад

LMAO!!!!! Made my day after cussing and cursing at my drums..... :)

@axtra92 7 лет назад

John Jesus are you an idiot??

@danielpantarelli2757 7 лет назад

You probably are, cuz looks like you don't understand sarcasm

@حسين-ج9ط7ي 5 лет назад

بارك الله فيك اخي

@kfirlavi7674 4 года назад

You have saved me. I tried the bolts method, but it didn't budge. Then I sew your video, and used the oil method. This made the drum loose. Thanks.

@crforfreedom7407 4 года назад

Fastest, easiest drum removal I ever did was with a tool I borrowed from a local mechanic. It was a bar about 4' long; a massive breaker bar with a deep-well nut on the end. Strategically welded on the bar was a piece of rod that made contact with the hub when you pivoted the bar in. I threaded the nut on the stud, pivoted over til it made contact with the hub and gave it a few tugs. I did this is a couple of directions on a couple of the studs, and I would say in about 2 min I had the hub off. The other side took me about as long or longer than you're taking here, and I warped the hub from trying to use a gear puller (it was REALLY on there). I suppose a guy could make one, I've never seen this tool for sale.

@chrisfix 4 года назад

thanks for sharing

@matthewriley5441 6 лет назад

i saw the video title and i immediately thought big hammer its my preferred method of removing rusted brake drums combine that with some penetrating fluid and it never fails, except once when after an hour i resorted to using an angle grinder it soon came off then

@niteowlboy3648 4 года назад

Thanks bro you save my life .i was having a hard time i was going to call a mechanic he was going to change me 90dlls.thanks again

@garyronan5568 10 лет назад

I'm A 62 YO retired wrench in the land of salt and snow ( AKA Minnesota) and I could bore you to death with brake drum story's. Wait till you get one where the bonding fails and the brake shoe material travel's around until it gets trapped between the drum and the other shoe! That dude came to A real quick stop and I ended up cutting the drum off with the gas ax. As far as people barking at you about harming the drum I would suspect you had to replace it anyway seeing as the shoe cut A groove in it. Can't turn them after A certain point people! Also A few people mentioned using A puller but the wheel stud's on this rig are on the Axel flange and not incorporated into the drum therefore A slide hammer puller won't work and I don't think A jaw type puller would fit between the backing plate and the drum. I have welded stud's to drum's such as this so A slide hammer puller could be used but I knew that I was going to replace the drum so no harm no foul. You also need welding equipment and most back yard mechanic's don't have access to welding machine's. Also as far as hammer's go I like to use A 2 or 3 pound lead or bronze hammer. Not cheap especially the bronze hammer but they will give you A solid strike without the chance of destroying A good drum. Lead hammer's you can make. Just save up A bunch of wheel weight's and melt them down, stick in A pipe for A handle and let it cool. Make the mold look something like A hammer. Good luck in the mechanic trade. Not many people want to get there hands dirty these day's. Kudos to those that do!

@chrisfix 10 лет назад

Gary Ronan Thanks man and thanks for the tips and stories!

@fxdb2011 6 лет назад

I just went through this few days ago 2012 F-150 rear brake, they are disc brakes, but there's a small drum for the parking brake. Was able to adjust the starwheel some for extra clearance, but still a PITA! Yup northern Michigan I Know what your saying about road salt LOL

@Anthony_in_Bloomington_Indiana 5 лет назад

I like the large hammer approach, but there's no way I could collect that many wheel weights. And breathing in lead fumes is bad for my brain cells. What about a regular 2 pound sledge hammer? Menard's has a 2 pound sledge hammer for just $8 and tax.

@grominwithrob1339 4 года назад

Never underestimate the power of Kroil. That stuff is amazing! It's expensive but can't be beat.

@Smittyschannel 9 лет назад

If it's stuck as bad as yours, most likely the pad has eaten / grooved into the drum surface & left a lip around the edge of remaining metal that won't slide off & keep the drum locked in. It's a real SOB. I tried to use a 3 jaw puller, then had to modify it & make it bigger so it would fit around the drum, & ripped that mother f***er off, because at that point I was so pissed off. Had to replace all the little hardware pcs & springs. ALSO made damn sure I got the angle grinder out & ground off that )*(&^#%^ lip off the drum too

@chrisfix 9 лет назад

paul rogers Thanks for sharing Paul!

@danielwarren6845 9 лет назад

Or you could have adjusted the handbrake cable.

@jameswillison3159 9 лет назад

Daniel Warren

@fridgebeer6897 9 лет назад

+Daniel Warren or even simpler, adjust the brake adjuster. five minutes to remove, 10 to replace shoes and hardware, 30 seconds to install new drum or old drum.

@coypatton3160 6 лет назад

paul rogers you sir are correct. If you listen closely when he spins the drum you can hear that tell-tell sound of metal grinding on metal.

@ouraccount5258 8 лет назад

Goes into the night include fire and drilling! "That's how you remove drum brakes"

@James-pr8tn 8 лет назад

LOL Wouldn't let him change bicycle brakes. He would probably drill off the handlebar

@billsmith2212 3 года назад

I went through the exact same thing on my 1987 Chevy Celebrity . I even had the same tool - Stanley calls it a Wonder Bar - and got it between the backplate and drum to hammer on and pry . Instead of drilling out the hold down pins , I hooked the drum in the back and used a slide hammer on them . Both rear drums were stuck . The self adjusters kept the brakes adjusted and they stuck to a ridge in the drum . There was also knock out plug on the drum . I think the slide hammer is the fastest . But it disturbed one wheel cylinder when the shoes pulled forward . I changed both cylinders . Everything gets a thorough cleaning and proper brake lube to keep things working .

@banno6938 10 лет назад

Under the little dust cap is a nut . Remove the nut pop out the outer bearing which will make the drum quite a bit looser to the point that you should be able to get a good pry bar betwee the drum & backing plate and give it hell ! The retaining pins will (usually) pop through the washer/retainer making shoe removal easier . Buy yourself at least a 5lb hammer for future use . Stop using the carpenter hammer because its prone to chipping & may take your eye out . I have had chips penetrate my skin more than once using quality hammers, chisels punches so you'll never see me using a cheap claw hammer . Oh & 3 rules to follow 1. always wear eye protection ! 2. always wear eye protection ! 3. always wear eye protection !

@chrisfix 10 лет назад

B Ann Thanks for the tips!

@titchglover2601 Год назад

Last 2yrs now when I change my summer tires to winters I keep trying to remove the drums on my 08 honda Civic. No luck. It has bolt holes to help push out but that did not work, and I had a hard time removing the bolts after. Gave up and just put my snow tires on. Thanks for the vid I will pursue this again now knowing that it's not easy.

@elydoug 6 месяцев назад

Thanks Chris. Your videos are focused, complete and perfectly paced.

@chrisfix 6 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@lal4250 8 лет назад

Why didn't you loosen the brake shoe adjusters, first?

@killer2600 8 лет назад

+Leonard Ledoux Because it's not always necessary, not always possible, and it's more work. Do the easy stuff first then do the hard stuff as required.

@seanlarson1825 7 лет назад

Leonard Ledoux how is turning a star nut harder work than using a torch and hammer. this guy hits like a little girl. what's with the claw hammer?

@backyardchevy328 7 лет назад

Leonard Ledoux theres an adjuster opening at 5:05 he never mentioned

@46lfries 7 лет назад

Leonard Ledoux it don't have a brake adjuster dumb dumb

@chrisfix 6 лет назад

The adjuster was frozen. This is an older video and I didnt plan them out as well as I do today but that probably should have been said haha.

@rbear4576 9 лет назад

This is why no vehicle should have ever been manufactured with drums after discs were introduced.

@chrisfix 9 лет назад

Robert Beard Yep. I dont know how this is cheaper than disc brakes.

@EpicHeroSandwich 9 лет назад

ChrisFix it's not. but putting a parking drum inside of a disc rotor costs more than just having a drum with two pads. also I've had way more square cut seal failures on caliper pistons than I've had wheel cylinder failures. drum brakes are an excellent backup in dual (every car since '67) master cylinder brake systems. they tend to fail much softer than discs,which can just up and stop working.

@chrisfix 9 лет назад

Logan Mailandt Good points!

@alanw5812 5 лет назад

@@EpicHeroSandwich just you need a professional to adjust the front drums,so the car wont pull one side when braking.

@martinradtke5181 2 года назад

This video has the most ways of attacking the problem. Me? If I had that much trouble I'd buy all new brake parts (drums, hardware & shoes). Those brake shoes were really worn out and past replacement. Thanks for the tips. The only thing I'd never heard / knew about was removing wheel cylinder bolts & pad pins. I've had to back off the drum adjuster cams before but I also spray Penetrating Oil inside the slot. Sometimes the adjuster cam is also rusted.

@purushaonezeroeight165 3 года назад

Super. Clear. Instruction. Thank you. Very good vid ‘

@zerocool9774 4 года назад

"How to spend a day on a 15 minutes job".

@poppakaneswrestling 4 года назад

Right all he needed is a 2x4 and a little sledge

@NoName-fy9rz 4 года назад

My mechanic just hit the drum like there's no tomorrow

@richardsmoker2603 Год назад

Thanks for making it real and showing all of the possible problems, mine is being very stubborn but now I won't give up 👍

@armandarchambault6795 2 года назад

The video show the person hitting the brake drum on the edge. Tat is the perfect way to warp or bend the drum. He should be using a malt and a soft punch to hit the drum between the stud, where it contact the axle or hub. This is where the rust is binding things up. The drum comes off a lot faster and doesn't get warped.

@ddoggangstar2 3 года назад

what an absolute nightmare... I wouldn't wish this brake job on my enemy

@chrisfix 3 года назад

You get it eventually! Just takes a lot of convincing :p

@ddoggangstar2 3 года назад

@@chrisfix I'm a mobile brake mechanic, I was dealing with something similar. The whole thing with the caliper being in the way was my only issue, thanks for the help, I'm a quick learner and a humble one at that, there's always something for me to learn. You should make a video when you get the chance on how marketing yourself as a mechanic, I would definitely watch :)

@Omar-tl4hu 4 года назад

Thanks for this video! I am doing this now and the last thing I’m doing now is removing the bolts on the wheel cylinder. Hopefully it just all falls apart lol

@forrestgumpv9049 5 лет назад

Drum brakes are a pain in the #^$&@...

@thomasscott3872 4 года назад

Take the rubber window plug off the back if equipped and turn the slack adjuster. Also, emery cloth the hub and clean with an ice pick, sharp knife etc down where the hub is meeting the drum. If not equipped with holes to thread bolts into the holes, can you drill your own and tap with a tap threads on your own. Drilling into the hub is not a big deal but this would be a last resort. I would suggest spraying penetrating oil 24 hours in advance before doing a brake job. That way it has time to soak in. The bottle torch is also a good idea as long as you don't get carried away with the heat. Good luck!!! Wear safety glasses too when hammering on things people!!!

@chrisfix 4 года назад

Thanks for the tips!

@oobaka1967 3 года назад

Went through this a couple days ago. Took 2 hours to get one drum off of a 2003 Ford Ranger and it was on a LOT tighter than the drum in this video. We have a "special" hammer for jobs like this. A large ball peen hammer with a 12" metal pipe for a handle welded to it. We also used a couple of 24" pry bars, a steel wedge and drilled out the pins. I've never seen the amount of corrosion that this drum and all of the springs / parts had. The best part is, once we put the drum back on, it's time to do it all over again on the other side.

@ratapaga5963 2 года назад

There's a slot on the back of it cover with a rubber seal take that off and there's an adjustable wheel grab a flat heat loosen it up, then it will realise very easily

@patriciomunoz2830 4 года назад

Freaking amateurs with their adjuster theory lol yes that it's supposed to work in a perfect scenario, welcome to the real world where the freaking adjuster is rusted solid and the brakes shoes are totally worn out and also did you know that some cars doesn't even have access to the adjuster in the back??

@Schmitty71 4 года назад

No hold down pins either! Horseshoe hold down spring, literally had to cut the drum off because the shoes wouldn't clear the ledge worn into the drum! What the hell kind of engineers are they hiring??

@talenttrading 3 года назад

I am such an amateur, I use a big flat screwdriver and loosen the adjustment. Every time.

@Schmitty71 3 года назад

@@talenttrading just because the adjuster is loose, doesn't mean the shoes retract like they are supposed to.....seen it, hope you never have to! It sucks!

@talenttrading 3 года назад

@@Schmitty71 of course I have! That's where the little sledge hammer helps :)

@Schmitty71 3 года назад

@@talenttrading Continued success, my friend! 👍👍

@JW-rn5ee Год назад

Good deal Chris. Sorry you had such a brutal time. But you didn't let it defeat you. I'm at the propane torch level too. I've had to use the torch on 2 front guide pins on the calipers and one drum the shoes fell apart and now have to get this last drum off. It's great you showed several ways of removing them. Thank you for the upload. 👍

@herrwil 3 года назад

When you saw it free but the brake pads still holding the drum brake (at 3:52) one thing i learned, when you try to pull, try to pull it spinning the drum brake, it helps a lot and many times it works fine!

@Herbertti3 5 лет назад

ChrisFix Crippling depression edition,

@billbearback2591 2 года назад

great video thanks for sharing , ive had similar when the surface of the drum where the shoes run is worn down lower creating a lip so no matter how you pull the shoes just stop the drum coming off , your solution of undoing the wheel cylinder and removing the shoe retaining pins is key in the end , sometimes you can grip the pin head with vice grips and force twist them to pull out without drilling the head off ,, cheers big ears

@T0198 5 лет назад

So, it's a pain in the butt!

@jonneil7169 Год назад

Thanks for this video! 2001 subaru forester w/ one stuck drum. couldn't get adjuster to loosen brakes and was at my wits end. What a great idea, drilling out pins and disconnecting wheel cylinder! I thought i was going to have to cut it off...somehow...will be trying as soon as the rain lets up.

@johntrain8077 3 года назад

How not to remove drums in way too many steps.

@MrGigi-dz9cv 4 года назад

I love those type of bearings. You can take them off, clean them, grease and put back.

@fredcombs7234 4 года назад

Omg, a beginner attempting to do something so simple ,get some experience before doing videos!

@yepper1165 4 года назад

Not being a smart alec, just hoping if you've got an easy and quick way that you'll put a video of it on RU-vid.

@Hypnotikshiva 4 года назад

@@yepper1165 give em old cars to work on and he'll soon realize how it's never a walk in the park.

@burtblyleven3011 3 года назад

So inventive, no one anywhere ever tryed those methods.

@jansircbernardo9302 3 года назад

nice tuitorial idol i experience same problem yesterday its take 5 hour for me n 2 friends to get that drum breaks off but when i see this video i get more n better techniques for that tnx a lot

@joseortiz-nf9qz 4 года назад

Man! you really have the patience to do something like that. I would have it hit it like my biggest enemy. Thank you for taking the time to filmed a video like that.

@joesilverbliss1721 4 года назад

Kroil is the best! You needed a much bigger hammer! I realize this is an older video but I enjoy watching your channel. Keep the videos coming. Joe

@chrisfix 4 года назад

Thanks for the tip and thanks a lot!

@nekoisme2703 Год назад

I have an old Ford that's been sitting outside of the first owners home for years, I'm going to replace the hoses and basically the entire brake system, I can't get the drums off but I have some movement, it wiggles and I've made progress but it's still stubborn, I only have so much time in my schedule, but this video might help, thank you