How To: Replace a Pool Light Fixture

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This video shows you how to determine if you have a bad light fixture and, if so, how to replace the whole fixture including the wiring to the fixture.

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@DustinDager 2 года назад

Pool men don’t do it this way. Instead cut the old light away from the old wire. Then tie and tape the new light wire to the old light wire at the pool. Then, go to your box and pull the old wire through until the new wire comes out of the box. Job complete

@freeschaeffercox1640 2 года назад

That's what I was thinking. We have a 3 niche public setup we have to do so I'm looking for as much advice as I can get. We took the fixture out but it was not bulbs rather an led bar inside, by pentair, that I dont think can be replaced without pulling the whole fixture. Sucks balls.

@mikefitzpatrick43 Год назад

Exactly i just did this to a spa light today. Just make sure you splice, tie and tape them together well. Sometimes they do break apart depending how many wires are already in the're

@peb8093 3 месяца назад

Use a wire mesh puller sock to avoid seperation in the conduit.

@joepah51 5 лет назад

Extremely well done and understandable.

@DonTeeter 9 лет назад

No mention of sealing the new fixture. When I pulled my old one there was a sealant around the mounting ring. I expect I will need to use some sort of sealant that can be applied while underwater. The problem has been water leakage and contamination. If it is normal to not seal the ring, then maybe I have a crack or other means for water to pass through the housing. Must this require renovating that entire area? Drain the pool etc. I'd like to learn how to determine this.

@weaverron3751 9 лет назад

this looks easy cant wait to do this!

@oldloizosaccount48 6 лет назад

Make this job easy for yourself, cut the old light cord at the back of the light, secure new light cord to existing cord, making sure not to increase the diameter of the cord. Pull the two cords as hard as you can to ensure your connection wont break in the conduit. Now pull out the old light cord from the junction box and eureka!, light installed.

@fidelis55119 5 лет назад

Great idea, except, how do you connect two cords with that level of tension strength without increasing the diameter? Thx.

@SnakePlissken23 4 года назад

@@fidelis55119 tape duh and lube duh

@gotfrogs 4 года назад

This is much better approach. There is no way that tiny string would have the strength needed to pull my cable through 100 ft of conduit.

@datsuntoyy 3 года назад

@@fidelis55119 solder the ends of wire or strip an 1" and twist together really well, bend them over then tape.

@srarcade 3 года назад

@@datsuntoyy totally doing this, great idea.

@michaeltreanor9669 3 года назад

I believe my niche may be leaking, as the water level dropped to the fixture and stayed there all winter. Now the pool is empty awaiting a new liner. I cannot tighten a (ground?) screw at the back. It just moves around and pokes through when I try to tighten it. I have the deck broken up and can dig down to it if needed. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.

@Inyopools 9 лет назад

+Don Teeter There are two points on a niche that require sealing and they are the face of the niche and the cord hole at the back of the niche. The face of the niche is sealed in one of two ways; for gunite pools the cement is poured around the niche encasing the niche in the wall. For vinyl/fiberglass pools, there are gaskets that seal the seam between the niche and wall. The cord hole is plugged by sealant or a cord stopper. The latter are rubber corks that have a cored hole through which the cord is pulled through. They are available in 3/4" and 1" to fit the standard niche cord holes. These are available in local hardware stores or on our website: www.inyopools.com/parts_cord_stopper.aspx

@freddygeme04 3 года назад

What type of sealant do you recommend? Ty

@jeffmcnatt8144 9 лет назад

Is there a trick to removing the seal from the niche? While pulling the new cable thru the connection broke at the last bend of the pipe. This left me with no way to pull the wire back out of the niche without removing the seal. It looks like it screws onto the niche but I want to be sure it is designed to unscrew and replace so that a new wire can be run. Of course the pool is drained below the light.

@ricknelson6586 2 месяца назад

Very nice, great job on explanation. 😂

@ervinbarron5372 2 года назад

And all circumstances does the water have to be drained to replace even the lightbulb? I have no idea how this stuff works. Unfortunately Mike cannot be reached by topside you have to get in to change it. It’s an older poor poor built back in 83. The light is roughly 4 1/2 feet from the top edge of the pool in my deep ends about 10 feet. Should I drain the pool down throw a ladder in the pool and use the ladder to change the entire fixture? Please help thanks

@ericm1232 9 лет назад

I am tempted to install a new light fixture myself but after speaking with my local pool store, they said its not that easy. One guy said its his least favorite job to do on pools and he'd rather lift and carry pool heaters all day than install 1 light fixture. Is he being dramatic? It seems easy enough but I'd hate to yank out my old one and then be unable to pull the new one through and now have no lighting fixture.

@Inyopools 9 лет назад

Eric M I think your technician was being a tad dramatic; by no means is it a walk in the park but it is not something a handy homeowner could not do themselves. Like I stated in a previous comment somewhere down on this page the hard part is pulling the wire through, could be a two-man job. Also, a key is knowing what your current light fixtures is to find the proper replacement size and voltage. Do you have any of that info?

@ericm1232 9 лет назад

Inyo Pools Yes, I plan on replacing my current 12v 100 watt Sta-Rite halogen fixture with the intellibrite 5g 12v fixture. What sort of situation can I expect to be in given the "worst case scenario"? From what I've been told, you can be stuck unable to pull the wire through and your cord could snap. I'd hate to find myself in this situation and now with a nonfunctional pool light hanging out of the wall that I can't finish hooking up. How do you go about getting yourself out of that sort of situation? Thanks!

@Inyopools 9 лет назад

Eric M Worst case scenario? You have a StaRite/Swimquip light that uses a uniquely sized niche, meaning you have to renovate the light area to get a new light to fit. Now that is a pain! In terms of your light cord situation, you would have to dig down to the conduit and find the sticking point of the light cord to free it.

@DonTeeter 9 лет назад

Inyo Pools Please explain how having a StaRite / Swimquip light is a worst case scenario. My house is fifty years old and the pool might be too (I don't know), and I need to replace the old Swimquip light. Is there a chance that the replacement fixture I order will not fit? The rings seem the same size to me.

@Inyopools 9 лет назад

+Don Teeter As we stated above the Swimquip light is a unique size with a matching niche so if you do not replace the light with another Swimquiplight it will not fit. Anytime a homeowner needs to modify their pool wall to change a niche just for a new pool light, that is a worst case scenario. You could be adding a few hundred dollars or more to an install of a light if you have to adjust a niche.

@mytexasdays1526 5 лет назад

Mine has a plug in the back of the niche, a water type rubber feed through securing the spare few feet of cord. If I pull it out, the water has to go somewhere. Why didn't you have a plug?

@dmacrt 4 года назад

I have a 120v Pentair that I want to replace with a Pentair 601106. I have a junction box several feet behind the pool where the light wire is spliced with another run that goes to a Intermatic auto-timer and GCF breaker beyond that. If I mount a 300w rated transformer next to the timer, can I reuse the long run of electrical wire between the timer and the junction box mentioned above and just pull the new light cable up the conduit to the junction box and make the connection there as long as I epoxy from the pool side and make sure the junction and splices are protected from moisture. i.e. can the existing outdoor 120v wiring be used on the 12v side between light wire connection and transformer?

@shannonseverin6522 Год назад

Did you ever get an answer to that question?

@raulrodriguez3828 4 года назад

Good video

@thepotanist1879 2 года назад

If my old housing has 2 screws can I still use this light if it only has 1 screw ?

@topolig1 6 лет назад

If there is water in the existing light fixture housing due to a bad gasket. Will the light still work after it gets dried out. Or the fixture would have be to replaced. thanks

@martinrios7340 9 лет назад

Upon attempting this I encountered complete resistance while trying to pull the power cable forward out of the hole, aside from the initial "excess wiring" available. Any tips?

@Inyopools 9 лет назад

martin rios I have experienced this a time or two while installing lights and there are a couple ways to handle it. First off, the issue likely stems from a 90 degree turn that the cable is stuck on. 1st option: Brute Strength. I had to get into the pull put place both feet on opposite sides of the niche and yank it with all my strength. If the cable is really stuck you may need two people pulling. 2nd option: If pulling the cable does not work, dig down to the 90 degree elbow to free the cable.

@ACommenterOnYouTube 4 года назад

Why does the water not push thru that conduit and out the other end where the electrical connections are ..?? I didnt see them using any underwater puddy or sealant to prevent the pool water from seeping out and thru that conduit

@kkeyes66 Год назад

The conduit is filled with water up the the pools surface level, like a straw in a McDonald’s cup.

@teachmefloraldesign 8 лет назад

Ok thank you. Great video ! And don't worry guys will not pay you to live in Phoenix lol Heading out to change my pool light.

@aaronmills7717 3 месяца назад

How do you seal the inner opening where the wire enters the conduit

@Inyopools 3 месяца назад

A putty or an epoxy can be used to seal the niche's conduit hole. But a cleaner, less annoying option to remove later is a cord stopper. A cord stopper looks like a rubber cork is a hole drilled through the middle for the light cable to thread through.

@aaronmills7717 3 месяца назад

@@Inyopools appreciate your response

@Montery12 6 лет назад

Assuming that water went into conduit after installing new fixture; how do you siphon it out (of course pool has to be drained below niche first to attempt this). Thanks.

@Inyopools 6 лет назад

I suppose you could siphon the water out at the junction box. However, it is normal for the conduit to have some water in it.

@nancygarrett7022 5 лет назад

what if the water is coming out of the other end of the conduit at the junction box?

@peewee21345 4 года назад

I just replaced my spa light fixture because the old one stopped working. I did everything Correct but it’s still not turning on, the Gfci isn’t tripping but all I hear is a clicking sound at the main panel. The “spa light” on the panel lights up but no actual light . Any help? Pool light is also burned out . I bought both to replace ... however spa won’t even work .

@nickzane2955 4 года назад

Hi guys, I am inyopool satisfied customer. I tried to replace my pool light fixture today as recommended in your video only to find out that there s at least 2 90 elbows it s going thru. There s no pulling the old wire out using brute force. Any thoughts or a plan B for me guys?

@mclvidz 4 года назад

Maybe using grease?

@NewWesternFront 2 года назад

what did you do?

@igortrach2143 7 лет назад

Inyo Pools what kind of light fixture is in this video. I never seen slim ones like this I have the cone shaped one. I want this kind. thanks!

@Inyopools 7 лет назад

+Igor Trach the light in the video is a Jandy Water Colors LED Pool Light Fixture. This light has a slim housing but still fits in the standard Hayward and Pentair Light niches. You can view this light here www.inyopools.com/ProductListing/lights_jandy_watercolors.aspx

@tonyabbate4462 5 лет назад

I have a Spa light and pool light that are controlled by one switch. The spa lights but the pool light does not. I changed the bulb thinking that was the problem but it still does not work. Do I need to replace the whole fixture? Pricey.

@Inyopools 5 лет назад

Hello Tony - The light fixture probably needs to be replaced. However, check out our article titled "Tips for Troubleshooting Your Pool Light". www.inyopools.com/Blog/tips-troubleshooting-pool-light/

@hwy6163 7 лет назад

I have a old hard cable in my conduit. My repair guy could not pull it through. This is now on me to solve. Is their a liquid lubricant that I can pour down the conduit to completely lube the old cable before I pull? I am thinking of liquid soap. I am setting up a leverage pulling pry to maximize the pull force. I am at the last ditch effort on this old cable removal. I can find lots of videos on easy replacements. Any ideas on removing old cable that is doing two 90* bends? I may be patching my light hole if it fails. A Floating light is not really what I want. but if the old cable is stuck, I may have no options. Any experience with problem cable removal?

@Inyopools 7 лет назад

There are silicone liquid lubes that you could pour down the conduit. But I am not sure how that would affect the water and how easily you could remove it. We use a silicone spray on the new cable as you are pulling it through to help avoid any hangups. - MGS

@Montery12 6 лет назад

You may have solved your issue already. You might've bulked up your connector between the old and new cable and is getting stuck in the conduit. I would pull my new cable going in back out carefully and recheck my wire attachments; they should be tight, secure, smooth or flat (no knots or bulks). Add more grease on new cable as needed. One trick is to wiggle the cord or pull it up and down slightly as you're pulling up from the JBox to loosen it. If it doesn't work, get someone to push in new cable from spa as you pull up (make sure all related power is turned off at the main and don't do this in the rain either, even if the power is off, possibility of lighting lol).

@nickcamera5544 6 лет назад

I want to change the bulb and have a new one on hand....but I can't pull the wire out far enough to be able to put the light on the deck so I can replace the bulb! Any ideas? I've pulled with full body weight and can't get the wire to give me any slack!

@IAMMythra 5 лет назад

Turn off breaker. Disconnect the light at the electric box and tie a string to it. Now pull the light out as far as you need to. Replace the bulb and put it back on and pull your wire back out. Reconnect electric and you're done!

@klh6729 4 года назад

So. its ok if your conduit going to and from the pool light is partially filled with water?

@roscoec.2575 4 года назад

KLH yes the water surrounds the light to keep it cool, it’s sealed in the housing with a gasket.

@pjdn Год назад

Not necessarily. But if you're sponsored to sell light fixtures then this is what you tell everyone. But before you go replacing the unit, try replacing the seal ring first. Its cheap and way less complicated and less time consuming. This should have been including in this video. Call a pool guy if you have this issue and he will always recommend replacing the seal first.

@Anon-Ymous2065 3 года назад

Instead of two pulls and a rope couldn't you just cut off the old fixture, hook and tape the cut ends to the new wire, and then pull it all through from the jbox?

@Inyopools 3 года назад

Yes, you can do that as well.

@tbasshandyman7610 3 года назад

Good explanation but a terrible design I need a new housing which means new cable and no as built

@chantalhanekom2977 2 года назад

What to do if you bought a house with no working light and you can not pull wire through even when you use fish tape the the pvc pipe. Something is blocking the wire from either side and pool starting to leak but no water can be seen.

@kellyvance1314 2 года назад

Need to dig down behind wall and re connect the conduit to the niche.

@robbuckley7370 4 года назад

What about the seal inside the pool? The one around the cord so pool doesn’t leak?

@Inyopools 4 года назад

You can use a rubber cord stopper or epoxy to seal the conduit hole.

@gennismaring6308 2 года назад

@@Inyopools mine has what looks like a giant metal screw with white plaster stuff over it. The wire won’t budge. I don’t know how to begin to remove it.

@pao8997 4 года назад

Hi I have a question if the cord is bad is a way to replace the cord only and used the same light ?Thanks for you video

@kkeyes66 Год назад

They say never do this bc of electrocution

@cheryldanko 5 лет назад

Is your pool light ground

@mikem1018 5 лет назад

How can you extend the cable on the pool light? I am going to extend my pool deck so now I need to move the junction box further away and the cable isn't long enough,

@Inyopools 5 лет назад

Manufacturers suggest not trying to splice the light cable because if done improperly could be a hazard to the equipment and swimmers. The deck can be extended while keeping the junction box in the same place. This is not the prettiest solution but it is cheaper than a new light.

@chrisfink1 6 лет назад

Where is the transformer located in this installation?...or is this a 120v led light? I'd like to find a led light that is 12v to the niche but all the lights I'm finding online seem to be 120v.

@Inyopools 6 лет назад

This is a 120v light. However, we have a good selection of 12v led fixtures and bulbs on our website: www.inyopools.com/ProductListing/pureline-pure-colors-led-pool-light-fixtures.aspx

@larryfleming7295 2 года назад

AMAZON

@larryfleming7295 2 года назад

OOPS 3years ago , i hope that light is working by now LMAO

@NewWesternFront 2 года назад

@@larryfleming7295 he ded

@williamtell5554 3 года назад

Do you need a transformer for pool lights?

@Inyopools 3 года назад

You need a transformer if you are installing 12v lights.

@Montery12 6 лет назад

Thank you for your answer. So it is all good to have some water in it. So, the epoxy or rubber seal cannot hold water from seeping through? If it does seep through then expect a full conduit full of water eventually; is this safe and wouldn't it wear and tear the conduit faster?

@Inyopools 6 лет назад

The epoxy or rubber seal should prevent water from leaking out of the niche. It's just normal for some water to be in the conduit. This is why the light cords should not be spliced underground. The cable insulation will protect the wires from any water in the conduit.

@ACommenterOnYouTube 4 года назад

@@Inyopools so im assuming there will be water in that conduit ..?? I need to replace my unit as well but my fear was when i pull the old fixture out and have to remove that puddy at the conduit end, water will start to rush into the conduit and then out the other end where the electrial connections are, next thing you know i have gallons of water rushing out that pipe until the pool level drops to that light fixture ...

@dmacrt 4 года назад

@@ACommenterOnRU-vid That's why you should turn off at the circuit breakers. i wouldn't expect that you'd get a rush of water.

@ACommenterOnYouTube 4 года назад

The power i am NOT worried about, that is the LEAST of my worries.

@mradaChris 6 лет назад

I wish mine was this easy. The idiot stick who built my pool ran another thicker ground wire along side the harness for the light fixture. Thus making it impossible to pull out. I was hopeful that you video would show that extra grounding wire attached at the light housing support.

@Inyopools 6 лет назад

Hello Chris - Our newer light video does show that thicker ground wire. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-drPRYqo9UI8.htmlm30s We were able to leave that in place and still pull the new line through in our installation.

@mradaChris 6 лет назад

Thanks for that link. I suspect mine is like that setup as well. I can't get anyone to do the job for me since it is too cold to be in the water. My only problem is that I had pulled on the ground wire not knowing that it was attached at the housing support. So now either I replace that grounding wire as well or just not install it. It was put in there, from what I am told, as a secondary grounding source. The light wiring already has a ground so it seems redundant to me. I have over 150' of cabling to pull through. Do you think that I could rent a fishing line, like what you have shown? I know I can buy it from Home Depot but I didn't want to spend that kind of money only to use it once.

@Inyopools 6 лет назад

I'm not sure if they rent those or not. If not, I'd look on Ebay and see if you can score a used one at a good price. As far as the grounding, the light fixture and niche are two separate items. Both should be grounded separately according to the manuals and aquatic codes.

@julianc6863 3 года назад

So I've had the buld replaced twice with no issues. It was replaced 2 years ago and the same guy came today to fix GFI and said there is water in the fixture. You changed bulb last so it was his fault. He is playing I don't remember coming here game now with me and quoted me 600 to replace. Don't trust him now to even fix light right if he let water come replacing bulb

@mykidsarebrats 2 года назад

Most won’t replace bulbs for this reason. You can’t guarantee it will last. Most pool guys now will only replace the fixture and not the bulb.

@FITBIKECO777 7 лет назад

my amerlite fixture keeps leaking. tried new gasket. tried to use automotive rtv. any technique you could suggest?

@Inyopools 7 лет назад

Two things to check: make sure the faceplate clamp is on the correct way. It would surprise you how often this is the case. Check the cord to fixture connection. Older lights can have this connection begin to crack, and water will find its way into the fixture. - MGS

@donmedlock3631 7 лет назад

Inyo Pools I have two questions. First I a damaged Hayward SP0583SL fixture with and need to replace it so will a Hayward SP0583L better one to use since it has the automatic thermal shut down or just go with the Hayward sp583sl fixture? Secondly I have unscrewed the cord from the damaged fixture so can just screw it into the new fixture I plan on getting? sorry for the long reply lol

@ytoal 8 лет назад

I need to replace a fixture, wire is ok, the socket for the bulb broke, do we have to rewire or can we fix with new housing/bulb and existing wiring, special way to wire if so? Thank you!

@Inyopools 8 лет назад

The best and correct way is to install the new light, cord and all. Do not try to splice the cord, as that can cause circuit and safety issues.

@ytoal 8 лет назад

Thanks, have a new light on order!

@pamperedpools651 10 месяцев назад

You could have cut old cord at the pool and connected the new cord and pulled it .. I would not have used a string.

@Inyopools 10 месяцев назад

We actually do install a pool light using that method in a later video. You can find it here: Poolside Repair: How To Install A Pool Light - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-drPRYqo9UI8.htmlsi=IJnbFSzuT7JJcnUj

@robertrosal9034 5 лет назад

Is there a way of find where the pool lighting switch to turn it on can be located? We just purchased a home with a pool but no one can find the switch for the light, not even the pool cleaner guy.

@MrPerito777 5 лет назад

It has to be in the main control panel of the swimming pool pump.

@benjaminterry5497 5 лет назад

What light is that

@Inyopools 5 лет назад

That was a Jandy WaterColors light.

@gingerhunny 6 лет назад

Nightmare installation because the original installers not only put four 45° bends in conduit but used too much glue which bonded the wire to the conduit. After installing new straight conduit with the string inside, the job was completed in 20 minutes.

@Vuxification Год назад

Pool

@robertsalas3984 5 лет назад

The music is from oceans eleven

@shamilton6328 4 года назад

Robert Salas nope

@nyceguy57 8 лет назад

What about the rubber seal in the nitch??

@Inyopools 8 лет назад

That gasket does not need replacing unless you are replacing the niche or the liner.

@lakerdude42 6 лет назад

Because they ever go this smoothly....

@jhanczaryk5766 5 лет назад

yeah ... exactly ...

@John-gm8ty 6 лет назад

I went out to change mine. ahh fuck imgur.com/OSeejlr the problem is, it terminates under pool level.. so if the grommet is perished too.. woosh goes half the pool water.

@gregmorstan799 9 лет назад

Wash t-cell

@Inyopools 9 лет назад

+Greg Morstan our video guide for cleaning the Hayward-Goldline Turbo-Cell is on the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-t0N4x_tjDp8.html

@christx4482 9 лет назад

It seems a little silly to fish the cable back to the junction box like that when you are throwing away the light fixture anyway. Why couldn't you just cut the cable at the fixture and attach the new cable to the old cable. That way when you pull the cable out at the junction box you are pulling the new cable through at the same time!!

@Inyopools 9 лет назад

Good Point Chris, that is an acceptable way of killing two birds with one stone while installing a new light fixture. We chose the two step process for the video because there is a possibility that one of the ties could come loose while pulling through, leaving it stranded. We chose the two step process for the novice installers.

@christx4482 9 лет назад

Inyo Pools You don't think that linking the cables together with the same loop you made in the video would make a stronger fishing cable than a kit string? It seems like the cable could be less painful when pulling than the string as well.

@christx4482 9 лет назад

Inyo Pools Your video was very helpful. I barrowed the wire looping idea from you, but connected it to the new light fixture cable instead of a string. Immediately I ran into problems due to the splice being to big to pass the niche. So what I did was cut the ground wires and hoop the neg and pos wires together individually and staggered them just enough for them not to be right next to each other. After that, the cable pulled through so smooth I didn't need any help from a buddy to feed it through! Thanks

@silkwoodart 7 лет назад

One of the BIGGEST MOST IMORTANT THINGS YOU SHOULD DO, that was NOT even mentioned in the video is, REPLACE THE GASKET WITH A BRAND NEW ONE! SHOCKING, VERY SHOCKING, that this lifesaving step was NOT mentioned in the video. ONLY A FOOL, replaces a pool light without replacing it with a new gasket every single time.

@Inyopools 7 лет назад

We are replacing the whole light fixture, not replacing the bulb. You are correct that when replacing a bulb you would need to replace the gasket. It protects the bulbs and swimmers. But in this case, we are switching out an entire fixture, neither light is being opened, therefore no gasket requires replacement. - MGS

@nbakash8150 6 лет назад

KashStewart the house

@cwstewartjr1973 5 лет назад

You may want to pay attention to the video before commenting.

@jayortiz5192 4 года назад

What do you do if the string breaks as you’re pulling out the old light? I have no idea how to get the new cable back to the breaker now.

@klh6729 4 года назад

I would think you need to get a metal fish tape. Push it through the conduit until it comes out the other end, then attach your pool light wires to the end and pull the wires back through the conduit.

@jayortiz5192 4 года назад

@@klh6729 Yes, that's what I ended up doing and it worked just fine. I just wasn't sure if the fish tape would be too big for the conduit.