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How to Reuse Washing Machine Motors - (The Simple Way ) 

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@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 7 лет назад
Hey guys, new episodes about this topic are now online: Salvage a washing machine motor+transmission: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H_JV7jTH4wU.html Inside a Washing Machine Motor: Pinout, Teardown, Explanations and Experiments: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CtulRqznbzI.html
@foxyrollouts
@foxyrollouts 7 лет назад
cool
@IdelcoEM
@IdelcoEM 5 лет назад
I have searched internet how to hack, modify or reuse the motor control of a direct drive washing machine with the motor (brush less three fase motor and VFC) but didn't find anything. Could you make a video? Would be great to modify and add a potentiometer and some switches to control the motor free on speed and direction. Thanks!
@kennethdegruchy5503
@kennethdegruchy5503 Год назад
Yes I am so interested in this also as I have a recovered modern washing machine motor and it's power / control board and have not figured out how to use it yet. I should try to aquired the service manual for the washing machine to perhaps provide better insight as to how the motor operates.@@IdelcoEM
@liarliarliar6495
@liarliarliar6495 8 лет назад
I like the German accent, it seems appropriate to technical matters.
@taunteratwill1787
@taunteratwill1787 8 лет назад
+liar liarliar Not to a Jew it doesn't.
@blackIce504
@blackIce504 8 лет назад
+Taunter Atwill 70 years ago, the current German generation is totally different in fact i would even go as far as too accepting...
@taunteratwill1787
@taunteratwill1787 8 лет назад
+BlackIce504 Not to a Jew they are.
@blackIce504
@blackIce504 8 лет назад
Taunter Atwill Wow an Internet Hero... The funny thing is you would never say it to my face. Also you should be cautious who you speak to on the net like that you might just find your self hacked..... I have not lived under German Occupation but again if you read anything i said that happened 70+ Years ago most of that Generation is dead or retired there children run things now that was the other point your weak mind missed..... Anyway i am done with you as clearly your hatred towards all Germans of all generations blinds you to anything you can't even have a logical discussion or argument with anyone with out your uncontrolled feelings and emotions controlling you.....Pathetic
@blackIce504
@blackIce504 8 лет назад
Taunter Atwill Fucking moron i did not remove anything i said that was the guy you wrote to before you moron, everything i wrote is still there clearly your delusional hippy. You can't read English very well you might need your eyes checked. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3159638/ISIS-blow-booby-trapped-BABY-teaching-militants-use-explosives-says-head-Iraqi-security-committee.html now twist that, clearly you do not read news as well. where have i denied anything i wrote i did not i stated you twisted it and got it mixed up and i even showed you where you twisted it up but your so emotional about your nazi fetish that your blind. You say I am lying about been down under lol you claim you an Elite with computers by now you should know where i am from........ You call me a bitch but your the one who is filled with emotions and most likely could not fight in real, and from the looks of your photo you look like you would be the bitch. Your a youtube troll, just so you know that is the lowest any person could ever get.
@MYNICEEV
@MYNICEEV 8 лет назад
MORE! MORE! I don't care how long I have to sit in order to learn my friend. I am 65 and my yerning for knowledge is still the same as when I was 7. That's when I took my first radio apart to see how it worked. Magnificent video my friend. I like your ideas and can't wait to see what you come up with for control with DC supply. Next video. Please.
@diabolicalartificer
@diabolicalartificer 8 лет назад
+Raymond Earle Ditto. I too am able to watch an hour long video. Not all Utube viewers have the attention span of a fly on amphetamines we are more like whelks ........ : )
@MYNICEEV
@MYNICEEV 8 лет назад
+Dr Wobble I totally agree my friend. I am 65 and continue to learn something new everyday. Thank you very much my new friend. I have subscribed. Have a great day.
@MrNamegame
@MrNamegame 8 лет назад
+Raymond Earle I get the same feeling now and again...just tonight I got fed up with an old notebook cooler of mine, disassembled it and repaired the section of wire that needed to be adjusted a certain way to make the fan work all the time, then replaced the bottom two large rubber strips with low heat hot glue so as to grip nicely the same way as the original two pieces of rubber that fell off.
@MYNICEEV
@MYNICEEV 8 лет назад
Awesome my new friend. Needs must when the devil drives.
@1000bluegsxr
@1000bluegsxr 8 лет назад
there is a electrical engineer in my family .he has never shared with me, other then he fixed cell phones for my cousin, as a hobby. your vid just showed me i know nothing.i do know it flows like water . yet i can fix cars, motorcycles,and any thing of properties and geometry.i can test millivolts yaaa. thanks for vid
@kieferonline
@kieferonline 8 лет назад
This guy is simply amazing. I sense a lot of consideration and sacrifice occurred to make videos such as this one. Many many thanks for this. Excellent demonstration and lesson.
@tyvole2387
@tyvole2387 8 лет назад
Thanks for doing these videos. I studied electronics at college ( a long time ago) and managed with that ok, but I never really managed to wrap my head around how motors, synchros and generators were used in the real world, 3-phase especially! These days. I'm more interested in making some tools for woodworking (such as sanders), so this stuff is really useful to me.
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
Just to clear this up: I'm aware that the term "frequency of revolution" or "frequency of rotation" is an uncommon term and that it must be strange for some people (especially some American viewers) to measure this physical quantity in Hertz (Hz) instead of RPMs. In Germany the words "Drehzahl" and "Umdrehungsfrequenz" are some of the terms used for this quantity. The letter one means literally "frequency of revolution". The Hertz (Hz) (1Hz= 1s^-1) is the SI-unit for frequencies and is the correct unit to be used in countries that have the "SI" ( also known as the "Metric System"). Any reoccurring event can be measured in Hz, not just oscillations. That includes revolutions per unit time! "RPMs" is a unit that is primarily used in the English-speaking world. It is not an SI-unit and that is why I try not to use it too often. The Metric system might still be uncommon in the general population in the US, but it is the excepted standard among scientist in basically ALL countries around the world. The RPM is based on the "minute" which is totally unpractical to use in many calculations, because all SI-units are derived from the SI-base units, including the second (s) as the SI-base unit of time. Using minutes only brings unwanted conversion factors into the calculations! 1RPM = 1/60Hz => 1Hz = 60RPM When talking about dependencies between "physical quantities" I try to use the names of the quantities instead of using "units of measurement". In this way you can make a statement without restricting it to one system of measurements: 1.Example: "When you step up the volts, the RPMs rise" ( bad practice) 2. Example: "When the voltage is increased, the frequency of rotation also increases" (good practice) When you still have doubts about describing the "revolutions per time period" as a frequency, just check the definition of "RPMs" found in Wikipedia: "Revolutions per minute (abbreviated rpm, RPM, rev/min, r/min) is a measure of the frequency of rotation" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_per_minute I don't say that this is the only way to handle things, but the DMM that I use to measure the how fast the motor shaft is spinning puts out a reading in Hz, so why not just stick to that, instead of multiplying it by 60 all the time.
@wither8
@wither8 8 лет назад
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor theconversation.com/why-the-german-language-has-so-many-great-words-55554 I was going through old tools my father had acquired over the course of his life (he is 60 now, so he doesn't really do much with them), and I found a lot of German HSS 2-flute hand-drill bits which was in my childhood tool kit he gave me ~20 years ago at 8 or 9. Dull but no oxidation or corrosion. I took them home, sharpened them quickly on my grinder, tried them out, and said in my best AvE impression, "Gehhrmann schkookum choocher."
@stuarticusrobinson9319
@stuarticusrobinson9319 8 лет назад
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor Bravo, RPM is something of an anachronism really, most of the other time when dealing with scientific quantities we would use seconds as the time base. RPM has persisted probably largely because of the rev meter on car dashboards.
@waynes.2983
@waynes.2983 8 лет назад
Power supply here is provided at 50 to 60Hz. See...Americans understand stuff too.
@FahadKhan-tp3ng
@FahadKhan-tp3ng 7 лет назад
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@shonaoneill5151
@shonaoneill5151 6 лет назад
Wayne S. errrr nah.....end of 😂
@mdoyle1981
@mdoyle1981 8 лет назад
The induction motor's RPM is a function of frequency and the number of poles by design; not just frequency. 2 poles at 60 hz = 3600 rpm, 4 poles at 60 hz = 1800 rpm, etc. NEMA MG1 for reference has everything you'd ever want to know about motor design. Good video by the way!
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
BTW: I do NOT recommend to touch a moving transmission like this with your hands (with or without gloves). I was working on a handbrake, but couldn't finish it in time. I just wanted to put the video out, so I did this the quick and dangerous way. Please don't follow my example in this respect.
@bradyrose
@bradyrose 8 лет назад
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor As far as I know, a short stick doesn't give you friction burn and slips out of your hand if its tugged away from you.
@ultort
@ultort 8 лет назад
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor Thank for the video, but sure, near rotating things, I would avoid gloves and long sleeves.
@Milosz_Ostrow
@Milosz_Ostrow 8 лет назад
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor - Next time, simply use a block of wood as a "brake shoe", instead of your finger.
@sirspikey
@sirspikey 8 лет назад
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor this is really interesting. I'm trying to find parts for building a beltsander (making knives) and was lacking a motor. But if you get this to work I will definitely salvage my old washer :P
@ericsmith3411
@ericsmith3411 8 лет назад
+sirspikey i c electric motors all over for a little a 10 buck that dont need a controller
@markrent3269
@markrent3269 8 лет назад
I understand about half of what you are doing ,but still find it both fascinating and educational, thanks
@mikeaguilar5764
@mikeaguilar5764 Год назад
No. 30+ minutes is fine. You found that out over time. I watched this when it came out. I just watched it again (2/20/23) since it came (back) up in my feed. Your English has gotten to where you speak it better than at least 40 percent of Americans, if not more.
@joshuawise6518
@joshuawise6518 3 года назад
I can see a nice 2×72" belt grinder being built with that rigid cast iron frame, it almost looks designed for one
@jameslamb4573
@jameslamb4573 8 лет назад
Thank you again. I for one would like to see more on "Universal Motor" speed control, both a fully rectified "pulsed DC" control and a "smart" controller. Cheers.
@usethenoodle
@usethenoodle 3 года назад
My Kenmore front loading washer suffered a mechanical breakdown a couple years ago. The spider which is the pot metal part your test bed is spinning, and attaches to the wash drum was broken in 3 pieces. The cost of a new spider was not worth it. It's only sold as a unit with the stainless wash drum. I couldn't see putting $600 into a decade old washer. So I took it to scrap recycle. Now, I'm pissed that I didn't extract the motor before I dumped the rest of it. I did look at it but I didn't know how to run it outside the washer. Great video! I want to learn all I can about this stuff. Thanks for doing the videos.
@richardsherrick8922
@richardsherrick8922 3 года назад
Jeremy Felding said I should check out your videos on motors…he was right, Thank You.
@nosafetyswitch9378
@nosafetyswitch9378 8 лет назад
Magnificent video! The thyristor circuit seems quite bang-for-buck because it seems it can power the motor quite stably! I cant wait for the modified circuit!
@EssaBenMostafa
@EssaBenMostafa 7 лет назад
Thanks for this video and the full info that you provide ... Just one thing .. Using your hand to make a load to motor through the belt is not best way ,it may harm your fingers and make high injury Good luck
@NavigatedChaos
@NavigatedChaos 8 лет назад
Your intro works. I didn't know your RU-vid name but listening to the intro and watching it I thought "There should be someone who invents stuff solely for the use in the apocalypse." Then your title appeared.
@zoidberg444
@zoidberg444 8 лет назад
Fascinating stuff TPAI. I have learned a lot about electronics thanks to you. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I would certainly watch an hour long video. But its much easier for you to edit and produce content if its broken up a little.
@scottfirman
@scottfirman 8 лет назад
the Cubans have cornered the market on reusing washer motors,there is even a book made available documenting what can be made using discarded household appliances. Apparently, Castro gave his blessings on publishing a booklet to be released to the general populace incouraging his fellow countrymen to show their spirit of inventivement and later had a book published showing what others had come up with. Apparently there were two published versions made,one after the other became so successful.Go figure. I do not recall the name of such books, but I am sure with a little internet surfing you will find said publications.
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
+scott firman Yeah they also made a documentary about those guys. Necessity is the mother of invention.
@wither8
@wither8 8 лет назад
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor During the Cold War the US (and as a result, the US allies) imposed an embargo on Cuba preventing the import of new cars (there was no domestic car manufacturing market within Cuba). As such the Cuban populace have had to make due with cars of a vintage nearly 50 years old. (Which, in some ways is good, because I'd imagine their trash output must be way lower than any other 'developed' nation, I digress though.) Now that the US-Cuba foreign relations have (somewhat) resumed, there is a lot of hype amongst vintage car enthusiasts within the US, as their innovative mechanics had to go to extensive lengths to keep those cars on the road in relatively stock configurations. (Instead of using hydraulic lifts, they just dig pits; instead of using fancy TIG/MIG welding setups with Argon, they have DIY stick-welding, etc. I'd be curious to see how they domestically manufacture their own primers/paints/clear coating that adhere to aluminium)
@Hongqie
@Hongqie 7 лет назад
That rugged cast iron frame are just perfect for belt sander
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
My paypal donation links in the video descriptions somehow don't work anymore.I think it's YT's fault. I guess they must have "improved" something in the video descriptions that messes with all kinds of links lately. But if you want to make a donation, you can simply use my business-email-address to find me on Paypal: inventordonations@gmail.com
@dannosaur7
@dannosaur7 8 лет назад
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor Shorten the link. PayPal has a "personal link" feature which I've seen a few other YT authors use. www.paypal.me/
@azyfloof
@azyfloof 8 лет назад
Duuude even if you put out an _hour_ long video on this, I'd watch the hell out of it :D I think many, if not most people here would agree. Would this work as an idea to get feedback of speed? Power the field windings directly with the AC, but pulse the stator windings with PWM. During the "off" cycle of the PWM, use back EMF from the stator windings to measure frequency of rotation. Perhaps that could be combined with the circuit you have there?
@harrypehkonen
@harrypehkonen 8 лет назад
+Azayles From what I understand, the field and stator windings have to be powered with the same kind of current (AC or DC). If they were powered differently, the attraction/repulsion between them would be unpredictable (dependent on frequency of current and revolution).
@c.j.1089
@c.j.1089 4 года назад
I never realized using washing machine motors were such a pita. I figured you could use the OEM motor controller by finding a potentiometer or frequency control somewhere in the circuit.
@FerdinandSchroder
@FerdinandSchroder 8 лет назад
Auf dieses Video wartete ich schon ne Weile.. Grüsse aus Paraguay (Südamerika)
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
+Ferdinand Schröder Entschuldige meine Neugier, aber bist du nach Paraguay ausgewandert, oder machst du gerade eine Reise?
@FerdinandSchroder
@FerdinandSchroder 8 лет назад
The Post Apocalyptic Inventor Neugier ist immer gut.. So habe ich auch dein channel gefunden als ich bei AvE videos schaute.. Meine Grosseltern sind nach den 2. Weltkrieg nach Südamerika gekommen. Ich bin schon hier in Paraguay geboren.. Ich bin ganz aus der Übung Deutsch zu schreiben aber Englisch ist n bisschen komplizierter.. Sehr interesante Videos.. Mal sehen ob ich meinen alten Waschmaschienen Motor in schwung bekomme :P
@law-ofohms7815
@law-ofohms7815 8 лет назад
I love how clearly you describe and explain things
@RelentlessHomesteading
@RelentlessHomesteading 8 лет назад
Enjoyed seeing someone still doing some electronic tinkering. Nice little discussion without getting too technical. I miss being in the lab on my circuits. I will be checking out your other videos. Also I enjoyed your German accent too - its my heritage as well - though no cool accent, only west coast. RHugo here
@soupflood
@soupflood 8 лет назад
A year ago I assembled a bench grinder from an universal motor like this, commanded by a triac dimmer for vacuum cleaners. The dimmer's potentiometer is connected to the contacts of a relay, which is triggered by a transistor. The transistor is triggered by the tacho through another potentiometer and a diode bridge. _The relay needs a separate power source._ It's easy to build, but it's also noisy and the no-load faster speeds aren't constant. Under load though, it runs okay. I still use it.
@taunteratwill1787
@taunteratwill1787 8 лет назад
+soupflood I'm so happy that you got this of your chest, no go back to the drawing board and make the speeds constand under all conditions dammit.
@soupflood
@soupflood 8 лет назад
Taunter Atwill You will need a programmed microcontroller then, unfortunately.
@taunteratwill1787
@taunteratwill1787 8 лет назад
So? Is it expensive?
@soupflood
@soupflood 8 лет назад
Taunter Atwill Not at all, but programming it requires some knowledge that I don't have. I know, I should learn it, and I will - sooner or later.
@wethnauin5669
@wethnauin5669 8 лет назад
Das ist genau die Videoserie worauf ich seit gut einem halben Jahr warte ^^ This is exactly tthe series of video I have been wating for since half a year. Thanks
@scrammy
@scrammy 8 лет назад
Started watching and it was an easy instant subscribe. There is a "je ne sais quoi" about your voice, accent and vocabulary that would make me interested in almost anything. I "liked" this video on my stumbleupon account, so you should see a small spike again. Thank you and I am looking forward to exploring your channel!
@dashlamb9318
@dashlamb9318 7 лет назад
This proves that knowledge and wisdom are sometimes mutually exclusive. It is unwise to subject one's hand to such danger!
@ifell3
@ifell3 7 лет назад
I've seen some dodgy stuff before in videos that has made me giggle like a little boy, but this has to be the funniest, i could just imagine that wheel coming flying off around the workshop, crazy!! Great video keep them coming.
@patrickfitzmichael5940
@patrickfitzmichael5940 8 лет назад
You sound a little bit like Marvin Martian. No insult intended. We like it.
@triumphmanful
@triumphmanful 7 лет назад
No, Dr. Strangelove !
@diabolicalartificer
@diabolicalartificer 8 лет назад
Thanks for this video, it is very timely. I have some big old 110v DC 1/4HP motor's and some other 220/240v AC including a huge 3HP monster; your video has given me valuable info that I can use to get these running. Cheers.
@SwingingTheDead1
@SwingingTheDead1 8 лет назад
looks like that setup would work really well for a band saw. Or, like you said, a sander. thank you for the video
@mattiaiezzi9381
@mattiaiezzi9381 8 лет назад
As always, great video! Hoping that you'll use the tachogenerator at some point. There's even a Motorola IC for that, the TDA1085C, but maybe you were thinking about discrete logic, which is great!
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
+Mattia Iezzi I have a TDA1085 and I will use it at some point, but the problem is that the TDA 1085 has been an obsolete device for many years. It is not manufactured anymore and people probably will have a hard time to buy one. At least here in Germany there are only a few private individuals who sell the rest of what they have. They usually want to have 10€ or more per chip. So it really is not my first priority to use a TDA 1085. But I'm working on a design around the TCA 785 that will probably be able to use the tacho generator's output as a feedback signal.
@shannonlove4328
@shannonlove4328 8 лет назад
The problem here in North America is that our three-phase 220v circuits are only in the kitchen and the washing room for the big appliances. I've got a pile of 3-phrase 220v motors which I could easily use, in my kitchen, after pulling out the stove. They still grind those motors out because they're cheap not needing permanent magnets or regulator circuitry.Since the logic of motor field switching comes from the grid itself, we're kinda screwed. All the other motors are 120v with permanent magnets. That makes it hard to salvage from a 110v to 220v. One of the few benefits of WWII, when we rebuilt the power grid, we built it on 220v.
@fretzopenmic6754
@fretzopenmic6754 7 лет назад
yrs ago i just used the original set up...and attached a round saw blade..therefore using an old table I had a superb rip saw...
@hallofo8107
@hallofo8107 8 лет назад
Man, I don't know how I missed your channel for this long. +1 sub! But my goodness sir, every bloody time you put "load" on the belt I had a vision of it catching your glove and redistributing your hand bits all over the shop! I know you addressed it and the comments are alive - I just wanted to agree with the "safety" crowd. All in all though, EXCELLENT video and series. You're now featured prominently on my "watch later" list.
@billkratzer1
@billkratzer1 8 лет назад
I have watched and enjoyed your work for some time now. A choice between FB and RU-vid got you as my second offering from youtube. Happily watched.and this shows as a recent upload from you. It helps that you are relevant, articulate, and just plain good.
@ninjamaster3453
@ninjamaster3453 8 лет назад
I'm so impressed with how intelligent you are and enjoy your videos.
@sergeantcrow
@sergeantcrow 8 лет назад
And there's me thinking all you had to do was feed some power to a motor ! Not so.. Excellent tuition and education.. Thank you very much
@shanesmaineshop
@shanesmaineshop 3 года назад
Very interesting. I have a motor from a washer but not the rest of the parts in your video.
@colt4547
@colt4547 8 лет назад
Great video. Back-EMF controllers have eluded my own personal study. I look forward to the next video.
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
I used a wrong terme when describing the setup. The belt is not "toothed" since it doesn't have any "teeth" :D
@SlocketSeven
@SlocketSeven 8 лет назад
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor The correct term is apparently "Ribbed", just for future reference. Great video.
@aserta
@aserta 8 лет назад
+SlocketSeven Or grooved. Years ago i changed my old Gorenje belt, it was listed roughly as 'high speed grooved belt'.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 8 лет назад
+SlocketSeven ribbed for her pleasure?
@timtrial3971
@timtrial3971 8 лет назад
a multi vee belt
@bigniper
@bigniper 8 лет назад
+Tim Trial Usual term for that type of belt is Polly Vee.
@HaLo2FrEeEk
@HaLo2FrEeEk 8 лет назад
Excellent video! Just what I needed. I recently salvaged a washing machine motor, along with the circuit board inside it. I plan on making a multitool with it (bench grinder/buffer, belt sander, maybe other things). I'll keep these bookmarked for reference later. Thank you!
@The52brandon
@The52brandon 6 лет назад
Thank you soooooo much for combining your isolation transformer with a variac. My friend that's been helping me to plan and design my workspace and tools. My original plan was to install my own dedicated breakers, running new, thicker, better insulated power wires from the breaker box into an isolating variable transformer and finally out to multiple outlets of 110-125 and 220-250 (probably through use of taps on the secondary winding. Since I'll probably only be building my tools for the higher voltage, and using ready-made devices on the 110-125V outlets, therefore really only needing the finer adjustments on the higher voltages).And he said an isolation transformer cannot be combined with a variable transformer. It's a weird statement that I couldn't concretely disprove with Google quickly. But your creation/use of one takes care of that for me. So now we can get back on the same page designing it rather than letting such a small detail split our ideas so severely
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
Was this video shared on some platform or forum? Views have been going way up over the last few hours? Who sent you guys here?
@gregorka9
@gregorka9 8 лет назад
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor An easy Sunday morning got me here. I have been meaning to watch it since it was posted. Great video as usual, keep up the good work
@jagardina
@jagardina 8 лет назад
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor Showed up on my recommended viewing list, I'm not subscribed but do watch a lot of electronic stuff.
@DaddarioVideo
@DaddarioVideo 8 лет назад
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor Showed up on my recommended viewing list as well, after watching some eevblog videos. Informative video, will definitely stick around for more. :)
@JustinShaedo
@JustinShaedo 8 лет назад
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor recommended viewing list
@debelix
@debelix 8 лет назад
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor RU-vid recommended it!
@MsDowloader
@MsDowloader 8 лет назад
I was thinking about adding full bridge rectifier before the thyristor controller, then the negative side would be the positive side and you should (in theory) have more power.
@nunyabusiness7630
@nunyabusiness7630 7 лет назад
Running in closed loop with a controller can maintain the prime mover despite a changing load providing the load is within the power range while taking into consideration duty cycle or any reductions of output.
@waldenhouse
@waldenhouse 8 лет назад
Years ago City & Guilds 224 qualification used "AIM64" programming for closed loop motor control technology.
@tonykempson4331
@tonykempson4331 8 лет назад
Thanks for the information presented here about universal motors, and the great youtube channel.
@DrHarryT
@DrHarryT 5 лет назад
What about the tree-phase motors? They use switching mosfet's to generate the correct frequency using the 120VAC line, turning it into DC first.
@voltlog
@voltlog 8 лет назад
Really nice educational video, I like the way you present the theory of operation. Thank you.
@mkosachuk6530
@mkosachuk6530 5 лет назад
I have virtually the same motor only it's from a whirlpool washing machine. I have the "three phase converter" hooked up but I need to know what to hook the three smaller wires coming out of the "converter" to. I want to get it on a dial like you have it so I can use it on a honey extractor, as I'm new to beekeeping and am trying to do things on a tight budget. I appreciate your help. I also have eliminated the other components in the machine by means of the diagram provided from whirlpool. Thanks again!
@tomcummings3471
@tomcummings3471 8 лет назад
I could listen to you for forty minutes ... BUT, maybe smaller chunks are more easily digestible (and retainable xD)
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
Part 2 to this video is now online! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aBVb87kemJI.html
@birthcertificate7223
@birthcertificate7223 7 лет назад
you could use the motor to increase the temperature in forges, modifying the motor to include a fan which blows into the fire.
@FUGYOO
@FUGYOO 8 лет назад
NSA will be coming for you. Very creative. Thanks.
@dnsmithnc
@dnsmithnc 8 лет назад
In school, I learned a lot of reading, writing and arithmetic. However, viewing this video and, considering the state of the world today, I feel my education is sorely lacking. These are the kind of skills that are really going to pay off in the not too distant future.
@TheMarcball
@TheMarcball 8 лет назад
Hi, this is inspiring, I'm curious to see what comes next. Long videos are not a problem, coming from you. Keep on trucking ! (from France)
@38911bytefree
@38911bytefree 8 лет назад
Love the last circuit, simple and elegant. Thanks
@EricChipko
@EricChipko 8 лет назад
Awesome video as always but 15 mins spent on a hand brake lever and demonstration of Safety Third would have been better. And a shout out to whomever is supplying your really impressive gloves, protecting those very expensive fingers.
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
+Eric Chipko Yeah. Maybe this was too dangerous. I also don't want to be such a bad example. Working on a handbrake as we speak...
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv 8 лет назад
I wished all washing machines were made as good as the siemens, that cast bracket looks really great for experementing and perhaps inclusion into a project :-D . I enjoy your teaching method, showing the reasons for each circuit and improvements. I would imagine that hall effect sensor output would be converted to a feedback voltage that can be used to trim the motor supply, much like in switchmode power supplys :-).
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
+zx8401ztv Yes it's true. Many washing machines these days are much cheaper in build. Even Siemens is now producing some rather cheap machines. The old Miele machines are even more rugged than the their Siemens counterparts. There must be about 40kg or more of cast iron parts inside older Miele machines. But Siemens is the only manucaturer I know, that uses a fram that holds all the interesting parts together. And yes: The circuit that I was working on from the beginning is supposed to work just like an SMPS. Only that instead of the output voltage. it's a signal from a Hall sensor, or from the tacho generator, that is used as feedback. But at this point I'm thinking that Back-EMF is really the simplest way to properly stabilize these motors with the least effort.
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv 8 лет назад
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor Why make it difficult for yourself, you can go ultra complex but its just a motor, and not a precise one at that. Simplicity has value :-D
@bobwebster835
@bobwebster835 8 лет назад
i enjoy the longer more detailed videos
@WizzRacing
@WizzRacing 8 лет назад
I seen these used as pump motors. And that motor has options in how you want to use it being both AC\DC driven.
@taunteratwill1787
@taunteratwill1787 8 лет назад
+Claude “Reviews4U” Rains The usage of a motor hasn't got much to do with the current used.
@randolphtorres4172
@randolphtorres4172 4 года назад
The simple way is always the more durable and reliable way
@mattbeazer5896
@mattbeazer5896 8 лет назад
Wasn't quite sure if I watched this to try to glean new knowledge or just to see if his glove would get caught on the belt when he touched it while the "wheel of death" was in motion and suck his hand into that mass of metal spinning at 100hz/6000rpm.
@AgeofReason
@AgeofReason 7 лет назад
all you demonstrated was that the motor is usable. what ideas can you present for actually reusing it in an applied manner?
@nice8348
@nice8348 7 лет назад
Age of Reason a table fan.
@AgeofReason
@AgeofReason 7 лет назад
Ooooooh
@dcfuksurmom
@dcfuksurmom 6 лет назад
a very powerful table fan, lol, but yes
@GabrielM0rais
@GabrielM0rais 4 года назад
Hi there! So, I found recently that a Samsung brushless washing machine motor works with 93volts and 2.8 Amps (Washing) and 218v + 2.0 amps (spinning). I think that if you increase the amps and decrease the voltage, you can get more torque even for a universal motor.
@coolhand7313
@coolhand7313 7 лет назад
Yes. I want / need to learn this. Want to use for wind,solar power. Thanks for the info.
@WobblycogsUk
@WobblycogsUk 8 лет назад
Great video, really interesting stuff but please please please stop touching the belt when it's running! One time you'll get your glove caught and a few milliseconds later you'll be missing a finger or worse.
@blackIce504
@blackIce504 8 лет назад
Hello my friend i have seen some circuits that could possibly control this type of motor but i will have to do some research if it can be applied again the circuit is very simple.
@jonassalk1387
@jonassalk1387 4 года назад
Jeremy Fielding reminded me about your channel. On 17Dec2019. Thanks for the good videos.
@dlhvac1
@dlhvac1 8 лет назад
speed is a matter of the number of poles in the motor in the USA 1725 and 3450 are common we use 60 hertz in the variable frequency drives to control rpm so rpm is correct we dont use metric . the frequency drive is programmed from motor data plate as to its speed and drive is set to correspond to this speed then the 60 hertz is varied to control rpm
@davidporras761
@davidporras761 7 лет назад
Excellent video! Thought i'd get bored when i saw 18 mins, but i didn't haha... :P
@paulfrindle7144
@paulfrindle7144 Год назад
The easy way to do this is to separate the field coil connections from the rotor. In this way you can control the speed of the motor by varying the voltage on the rotor with respect to the field windings.
@SteinErikDahle
@SteinErikDahle 8 лет назад
Long videos are great! Really looking forward to the next one!
@HaLo2FrEeEk
@HaLo2FrEeEk 7 лет назад
I salvaged a washing machine motor and the circuit board that ran it had a PIC microcontroller on it (a pic16c56). I desoldered most of the more useful parts from the circuit board before thinking about whether or not I could just jack into it to control the motor. I have a few ideas for what I'd like to do with the motor, most prominent being a lathe, belt sander, or bench grinder/buffer, or perhaps building all of those and having the motor be movable between them. What I'm struggling with is driving the motor. I got it spinning using "the simple way", but it's not being controlled, just spinning unloaded. I'm not wealthy, so I don't really have the means to buy parts to put together a control circuit, but I've salvaged quite a but. The thing I struggle with is the triac/diac use in circuits. What the heck is a diac? I've taken apart many AC control circuits and looked up part numbers but I've never come across anything that says "diac" in the datasheet, is there another name for it, or another something that can be substituted?
@LT89NL
@LT89NL 7 лет назад
It's a kind of diode, and is relatively common in AC regulation circuits, such as light dimmers, and motor controllers. Look it up on wikipedia and you'l see what a Diac is.
@HaLo2FrEeEk
@HaLo2FrEeEk 7 лет назад
I just want to know what to look for on the circuit board. It seems like all the circuits I've taken apart that use triacs never seem to have a diac on board as well.
@MineOfTheLegends
@MineOfTheLegends 7 лет назад
Image result for diac symbol The DIAC circuit symbol is generated from the two triangles held between two lines as shown below. In some way this demonstrates the structure of the device which can be considered also as two junctions. The two terminals of the device are normally designated either Anode 1 and Anode 2 or Main Terminals 1 and 2, i.e. What is a DIAC | Diode Alternating Current | Radio-Electronics.com www.radio-electronics.com/info/data/semicond/diac/diac.php
@MineOfTheLegends
@MineOfTheLegends 7 лет назад
I hope the answear of DIAC can make Halo2FeEk happy
@dougalannh
@dougalannh 8 лет назад
Perfect for driving a drill press or small lathe which both need variable speeds
@Aperson-sv2hc
@Aperson-sv2hc 8 лет назад
Can you make a video tutorial on how to make a boost converter that is regulated by a 555 timer as the pwm genorator and an octocoupler to give a varying resistance as one of the drive resistors of the oscillator? I really want you to continue your smps tutorial series... I hope that's what you've been working on.
@swimon
@swimon 8 лет назад
Just a very small correction : This belt is called a groove belt. Tooth belt is something else.
@oBseSsIoNPC
@oBseSsIoNPC 8 лет назад
Perfect, sehr gutes Video Genosse. Gruesse aus Kanada.
@taunteratwill1787
@taunteratwill1787 8 лет назад
+ObsessionPC Genosse? Germans don't do communism no more!
@telephonetelephone9040
@telephonetelephone9040 8 лет назад
HI MR P.A. Inventor, I see some videos online on how to change the washing machine motor into a power generator. They use an older upright type of washing machine. Can you perhaps tell me step by step how this is done with a normal washing machine?
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
+Telephone Telephone Please give me some links to those videos. Otherwise I won't be able to tell you what exactly is happening there.
@eeneihoorterbij
@eeneihoorterbij 8 лет назад
Tanks for uploading. this video is just what i was lookking for I cant wait to see te way to build the propper motor reagulator.
@berritandersen288
@berritandersen288 8 лет назад
Genialer Kanal, endlich hab ich Dich entdeckt :-) LG, Berrit Andersen
@deltaxcd
@deltaxcd 8 лет назад
There is one super simple way to stabilize rotation: Just connect motor windings in parallel instead of series like it is now. Parallel excitation motor will provide very stable rotation frequency which also can be regulated by adjusting excitation winding current. there may be problem with very powerful startup as it will draw enormous current during startup and also it may be that excitation winding cant hold full mains voltage so you may be required to connect some ballast in series. My guess is that motor will run in about 5000rpm but it will have very high torque and it may tent to overheat. But all that should be tested to check how well those motors work in parallel excitation mode.
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
+deltaxcd I have tried that and it's not that easy because the field winding is not designed to be supplied by the line voltage directly. The current flowing through it will be too high.
@deltaxcd
@deltaxcd 8 лет назад
The Post Apocalyptic Inventor Did you really tried that or you just guess? I had plans to test it myself. It is expected that mains voltage may be too high for that winding, but you can reduce that current is some easy way like connecting restive basalt or some transformer If you use variac you can control motor speed
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
+deltaxcd I actually tried it a couple of months ago. However: I will perform some experiments under more controlled conditions in the future. I will compare series wound, shunt wound and separately excited modes etc. For now I have enough work as it is, prepairing and testing various control circuits as we speak. The good thing is, that they will be usfeul for other devices with build in series wound motors as well.
@I.P.T.V.
@I.P.T.V. 7 лет назад
I suspect that when you say "isolation transformer" you may actually be referring to a standard variable voltage transformer ("Variac".) A variable transformer may or may not provide isolation from the line, so your description may be vague-but-correct. But most don't. If it's a standard Variac-type variable transformer it won't provide any isolation from the line and this can be a critically important difference regarding safety in some situations.
@johnpaulingress6012
@johnpaulingress6012 8 лет назад
Saw name, saw thumbs, subscribed
@ytrew9717
@ytrew9717 4 года назад
thanks! Suscribed, project from salvaged common appliances is what I'm looking for (greeting from France)
@drewhodge3820
@drewhodge3820 8 лет назад
Iv got a washing machine motor running an old cement mixer. The petrol motor was burnt out. Its been working for over 10 years now. Its used once a week to mix over a tonne of sand and cement.
@SteinErikDahle
@SteinErikDahle 8 лет назад
Great idea!
@Electroblud
@Electroblud 8 лет назад
+andrew hodgkinson Shows how reliable electric motors are! :) Electromobility will ruin car manufacturers if they don't use engineered failures :D
@cletusspuckler2243
@cletusspuckler2243 8 лет назад
Electric concrete mixers works great and they are quite , in some neighbourhoods petrol small engines are not allowed on weekends , due to the noise they do , but electric ones can be used .
@BCElginTex
@BCElginTex 8 лет назад
I was sweating when you were slowing the motor with your hand/fingers. I was having a flashback to the time I was working on an assembly line and I lost my balance putting my pinky finger inside of the belt and getting pinched between the belt and pulley. The conveyor came to an abrupt stop.
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
+BC ElginTex Yeah it wasn't a good way to do it. I should have spent a day more on safety considerations before making the video.
@grebo121
@grebo121 8 лет назад
+BC ElginTex When we talk about a Revolution, you should mind it's a risky business! ;)
@laurentcnc6662
@laurentcnc6662 8 лет назад
Nice vid ! It is a poly v belt. Can be easily found in hutchinson trade ;-)
@danelavery7436
@danelavery7436 8 лет назад
Good job! Professional video presentation...nicely explained and ably demonstrated. Thank you.
@debelix
@debelix 8 лет назад
Just use TDA1085C and you will have stabile RPM regulation regardless of the load, but you have to use the TACHO signal from the motor.
@ThePostApocalypticInventor
@ThePostApocalypticInventor 8 лет назад
+bobdebelix I have bought a TDA 1085C and I'm planning to use it. However: It is not a perfect solution as well: The TDA 1085C is obsolete and has not been manufactured anymore for many years. For example: There is only one guy in Germany who sells some of his remaining parts on Ebay. He charges around 10€ per chip. Furthermore: some viewers from other countries told me that their washing machines usually don't even have a tacho generator. So I guess it's the best if I simply point to as many different solutions as possible.
@debelix
@debelix 8 лет назад
Yeah, I forgot to mention that TDA1085C is obsolete but it was the best solution for controlling universal motors with tacho before microcontrollers took it's place. I automatically assumed if I have few of those IC's in stock that everybody else have it too, how stupid of me! :) Now, regarding your comment that some washing machines don't have tacho I find that very unlikely because I never seen any machine with universal motor without tacho and I repair washing machines professionally every working day for the last 29 years. If there is no tacho on the motor then this motor is not universal one!
@Kovinator
@Kovinator 8 лет назад
A lot of the newer front loader motors especially whirlpool and maytag have a tachometer built in.
@notionSunday
@notionSunday 8 лет назад
Your're German accent is fading. Good video BTW.
@ryandavidsheasby4028
@ryandavidsheasby4028 7 лет назад
Minor mistake at about 5:20. The speed difference between two wheels like that is dependant on circumference not on diameter.
@fatsocurrywurst3139
@fatsocurrywurst3139 8 лет назад
Cool Video in well understandable european english,love to learn about this Engines all,good Luck,dont get blitzed to often,hehe..
@u.s.a.9534
@u.s.a.9534 8 лет назад
LEARNING HOW TO USE THINGS IN THE FUTURE , TNX
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