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HOW TO RUIN a 4wd truck by LOWERING IT! (but improve the handling, and make better in every way) 

Lawrence LT Tolman
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@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
What do you think of the stance, should we go lower?
@op_s_lead
@op_s_lead 3 года назад
If it was my truck and I won the lotto it would be a lowered pre runner 💯
@dalehall2993
@dalehall2993 3 года назад
You going too c notch the frame?
@oldschool7522
@oldschool7522 3 года назад
Low enough i think. Of course i would have left it the way it was. But cool video!
@jasonburrows5840
@jasonburrows5840 3 года назад
I absolutely loved redtide and 03-05 awd silverado ss is one of my favorite trucks of all time so go just a little bit lower!
@dodgejohnson5819
@dodgejohnson5819 3 года назад
Curious why not a spring over in the rear..would have been about 5"lower and wouldn't have to mess with shackles until later with front spindles
@alex.8oh586
@alex.8oh586 3 года назад
ruined? made it even better cuhh
@jonallen1985
@jonallen1985 3 года назад
I think it looks good, can’t wait to see the finished product, I watched the AWD swap on the 88 Chevrolet K1500 that you lowered on truck tech and I know what you are capable of my friend, keep up the good work LT.
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
Thanks a ton!
@randywright7680
@randywright7680 3 года назад
i actually liked your project Redtide when you did that truck a while back. i would love to build an AWD shop truck/ winter beater like this one! Awesome, can't wait to see more!
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
Thanks! I wanna get some serious snow this winter to test it out
@rockymtnredneck4888
@rockymtnredneck4888 3 года назад
Livin in the Rockies, your street truck really should be 4WD. You done it right!
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
Can’t wait to drive it in the snow
@Shimmy_J
@Shimmy_J 3 года назад
I’m gonna wreck my 91 gmc 4x4 like you guys did with red tide. It will have an LS tho. And it’s gonna be a MANUAL!
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
That’s a great combo.
@jerryrounds8586
@jerryrounds8586 3 года назад
As always great fun to watch. Put me down for liking the lowering of the truck. I enjoyed your Power Nation episodes of lowering the red truck.
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
Thanks! That was a fun one
@jm361
@jm361 3 года назад
I pray that one day, that you do a segment/video/tech talk on upgrading OBS-GMT400 Brake upgrade/swap and or using converting GMT800,900 brake components. As an OBS owner (1995 c1500 single stepside Show Trucks USA/Mark 3 variation) the brakes just plan suck, some companies like Pro Performance sells a kit that beats up peoples wallets, but there has to alternatives out, and the fact that you know your way around these platforms and your skill set makes all of OBS folks wonder what you would have to say.. Not to many other companies focused on the GMT400 which is sad, alot them are still on the road to this very day, some modded or still plain ole fashion original! Love the content, this truck reminds me of the 1 you lowered on the show and made the custom mount for. BTW Congrats on breaking 55k subs, next stop 100k! Stay safe, and as always thanks for sharing your work!
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
I actually have all the parts to do a GMT800 brake swap on my K2500 suburban...
@billyray4716
@billyray4716 3 года назад
What I did with my suburban was crank the torsion bars up front. Drop the rear about 2 inches and threw 33s on it. Sits perfectly level and looks perfect
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
that works pretty good!
@turboboy-oq6xe
@turboboy-oq6xe 3 года назад
Love it. I would go lower cuz that’s what I’m doing to my 2002 and I’m going to put a Denali t case in her.
@justincollins6611
@justincollins6611 3 года назад
T H A N K Y O U I've been on the bad end of this argument, and there is plenty of functionality retained when lowering a 4x4! Ya don't have to lift it to clear obstacles you will never encounter.
@beausmith3900
@beausmith3900 3 года назад
I'd like to see u pull the drive train from an escalade, 6.2 awd and 4l85e... with it lowered... I think it would be a rocket
@MrGixxer1300r
@MrGixxer1300r 3 года назад
exactly what I am hoping for as well
@Sneakdisscommentbelow
@Sneakdisscommentbelow 3 года назад
I would have left the front up cause I've noticed on Chevy trucks the steering gets easier if the rears lower and also for the weight transfer, but not my truck. I'm sure you're probably in an HOA community but I would have beat those shackle bolts on the inside with an air hammer dropping the spare and those bolts might have come out without removing the bed. But good work LT.
@pnwchris2000
@pnwchris2000 3 года назад
I say lift/level the 2500 & 3500s, lower/level the 1500s in the GMT800 platform, just my opinion. I like every body style lowered or lifted in the GMT400 platform tho, they all look great!
@artysmotorsports
@artysmotorsports 3 года назад
I just got done lowering my tahoe. You didn't ruin it. Just made it better...
@jcerna7226
@jcerna7226 3 года назад
Love this type of GM truck content. Keep up the great work bud!!
@EricErnst
@EricErnst 3 года назад
Lower awd/4wd trucks are sporty, but I'm almost concerned for your new climate. It snows a lot in the mountains. 4wd doesn't help much if you're plowing snow with your front end. I know it's a project and you can just drive your AT4 in the winter while this truck stays parked. Most guys only have 1 or 2 vehicles, so they can't truly focus on on-road performance like this. Lifted trucks have their place in extremely rural areas with less road maintenance where the roads are the last in line to get snow plowed, if they get plowed at all. I like stockish height trucks. Trucks lose their utilitarian value if you have to pick heavy stuff up too much higher to load the bed. I like full wheelwells in stock height trucks. I'll be putting some 285/75R16s on my 90 k2500 Silverado and lowering the torsion bars just enough to clear the tires with no rubbing. I've heard 35s are achievable with stock wheels and generous trimming. Anyway, I don't necessarily like lowering my own 4x4 trucks, but I can definitely see how it will be a monster on the pavement. I'm interested in seeing how this truck pans out. Keep up the good work!
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
You do have a point about it being a snow plow lol. I’ll have to keep it out of the mountains
@78heloman
@78heloman 3 года назад
Full race truck it, cut the bed for sstep notch and give her the boost, 4wd trucks like this are awesome lowered and boosted. Don’t worry about uniqueness just do what it wants.
@reaperasylum
@reaperasylum 3 года назад
I lowered my 10th gen f150 2" and it looks killer and I plan on fixing the 4x4 soon
@michaelbrown5601
@michaelbrown5601 3 года назад
Lowering 4x4 GM trucks has long been your specialty. I wasn’t fooled by the video title!
@jessedaman070
@jessedaman070 3 года назад
Those tortion keys came out way too easy lol around here the rust pretty much welds them to the tortion bars
@nelsonford7746
@nelsonford7746 3 года назад
There is a company called atomic fab to convert the front end to a coil over so you can ditch the torsion bars and that cross member so you can also drop the trans and the t case as one instead of separately
@richardharvey8939
@richardharvey8939 3 года назад
👍👍 another outstanding job
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
appreciated!
@XaviarJS
@XaviarJS 3 года назад
I like it.. I wish I could do that to my 99 k3500 crew cab short bed dually..
@cnote2774
@cnote2774 Год назад
I get a strong I’ll just wing it vibe from this
@coreyrowe2052
@coreyrowe2052 3 года назад
I like it. No complaints here 👍👍
@christopherinterrante7318
@christopherinterrante7318 3 года назад
I just finished a 4/6 drop on my 4x4 2001 RCSB
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
love it!
@perrymahnke886
@perrymahnke886 3 года назад
Looks Awesome! Hopefully someday I will be able to add a lowered 4X4 or AWD truck to my fleet or possibly modify my 69 C10 to a low 4X4 or AWD. As always another great video & thank you for sharing.
@kentuckykuntreekiddkustoms8590
@kentuckykuntreekiddkustoms8590 3 года назад
Iv been a fan of you L.T for a very long time it feels like. I never knew u had a ext cab obs truck. I commented a while back about the center console stuff. I have a 98 ext cab it's a pretty nice ol truck. I wish 1 day I could build it into a turbo ls and stick shift awd. Very be expectations for a auto 2wd truck. Lol. Keep the awesome content coming it gives me hope. Who knows I might start that after I get my ek sedan done.
@rockyasteria2815
@rockyasteria2815 2 года назад
Great time to R&R the fuel pump 😁😁
@wadethomas6952
@wadethomas6952 3 года назад
I like when you converted the other vehicle to all drive same here keep the height the same
@tdsilverado7470
@tdsilverado7470 3 года назад
LT, I think it looks great. But it could go lower, I'm like you, Drop um down low. LOL...
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
Yeah, I agree. It’s going lower for sure, just need new wheels first
@PolarisEricson
@PolarisEricson 3 года назад
Oh man. My truck being from Minnesota i just worked back to what actually came off. So i ended up with new leak springs because of all the seized parts
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
dang, thats a lot of work
@80sfordguy
@80sfordguy 3 года назад
A drop of 2-1/4” front and 3” rear is still very noticeable and yes the drop will by default allow the truck to handle better. Yes I’m one of those guys that says if you want it low buy a car because Trucks especially 4X4 Trucks are meant to be lifted not lowered. That said, it does look better and I can only assume it handles better especially in turns. At least it’s not a DONK, those are garbage that costs thousands just to still be garbage after all the fab work just like lowered trucks.
@joesilvasr9733
@joesilvasr9733 3 года назад
I am not sure what the U-boats cost but you can easily cut down and re-thread the OEM units.
@GoodlookinMug
@GoodlookinMug 3 года назад
Looks good… bobblehead
@tommoon2700
@tommoon2700 3 года назад
Hell yea killing it LT 🤙👍
@StraightLineCycles
@StraightLineCycles 3 года назад
I like your style sir. I lowered mine for free!
@Tommy-B.
@Tommy-B. 3 года назад
I usually lower my trucks too. People tell me I ruin it whether it’s 2wd or 4wd. I say it’s easier to load stuff in the back. You ruin that with a lift. I just got an 03 Tahoe 4wd. I’ll be lifting that. My first one.
@a68k_de
@a68k_de 3 года назад
as you have the bed removed, would also do something about the rust
@hi4429
@hi4429 3 года назад
Keep up the good videos, they are inspiring for us DIY guys/gals.
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
Thank you! Will do!
@redwolfmaddox3986
@redwolfmaddox3986 Год назад
C notch and flip kit should be even better
@shanedavault210
@shanedavault210 3 года назад
I would've been disappointed if you had raised it. I would love to see it go lower and AWD!
@brandylay6229
@brandylay6229 9 месяцев назад
Now put a 10" 3500-3800 stall converter in it, you will be happy😊 launch in 4wd
@767dag
@767dag 3 года назад
I like it !! Just don’t cut the frame
@luisesparzavilla3529
@luisesparzavilla3529 3 года назад
I got the same truck but 2wd, you should do the leaf spring hanger drop to get an extra 2 inches. That way it looks better and I get an idea of how of a pain in the ass it would be to do it lol
@justinjensen9558
@justinjensen9558 3 года назад
save some time and do a review on the speed engineering long tubes and Axel dump or side exit. I know you can fabricate so I would just be interested to hear what you think about those. love the channel, I'm building basically this exact same truck, your about caught up to me though after this video.
@robertmaclachlan7948
@robertmaclachlan7948 3 года назад
LOOKS GREAT BETTER HANDLING WITH THE LOWER CENTER OF GRAVITY BUT RETAIN THE 4X4 CAPABILITY WANT TO DO THIS ON A 2000 YUKON BUT HAVE TO DO IT DIFERENTLY CAUSE NO LEAF SPRINGS
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
Gotta use different rear coil springs
@anytimeminutes3992
@anytimeminutes3992 3 года назад
Looks great 👍 . You should make it all wheel drive really interested in seeing that process.
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
i really want to do an AWD setup on it
@anytimeminutes3992
@anytimeminutes3992 3 года назад
I have the same truck but planning on doing a simple lift and tire setup like all the 4x4 dudes love but I’m super curious to see where you go with your build . 6.0 all wheel drive maybe? Love your content bud.
@michaela1655
@michaela1655 3 года назад
LT, did I see you running an angle grinder without safety glasses? Hugs and kisses. Your loving mother.
@johnt540
@johnt540 3 года назад
i have a 04 4x4 gmc and the bump stop is just bolted into the frame no bracket
@xozindustries7451
@xozindustries7451 3 года назад
Next time you can just use a sawsall to cut the shackle bolts, just run it between the shackle and bushing
@jacobeakright6387
@jacobeakright6387 3 года назад
I prefer a lifted truck if it's 4 wheel drive but it's your truck do what you want to it
@marcocasillas5023
@marcocasillas5023 8 месяцев назад
It looks clean I'm going to do that to my truck did you have to mess with the dry shafts you didn't do nothing on the video so I assume you didn't they work but I don't like assuming thanks
@safarikick
@safarikick 3 года назад
Need a awd transfer case
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
It does
@safarikick
@safarikick 3 года назад
@@LawrenceTolman build a short box steps side ss
@JL-hw6lo
@JL-hw6lo 3 года назад
I just bought a 99 Silverado single cab shortbed it has 5 speed with long tube headers lo ram intake stage 3 cam stage 3 tranny build and clutch kit The kid that sold it doesn’t know how to work on trucks it had a bad rocker arm i bought the truck for $1000 lmao I can’t wait to lower it and twin turbo that bitch lmfao
@zombiebloodsparkle1
@zombiebloodsparkle1 6 дней назад
Did you have to c-notch? im planning on the same with my 3rd gen ram 1500 4x4
@Jim_Lawrence
@Jim_Lawrence 3 года назад
Instead of pulling the bed, sawzall on both sides inside that frame bracket through the bolt. Had to do it for those, control arms etc... Good heavy metal blade goes a long way. Question: pinion angle change by only changing rear spring position? I think I need to adjust mine after some alterations...
@r.weaver3769
@r.weaver3769 3 года назад
Lower it and replace the transfer case with an AWD unit, Some 20" wheels, regear for highway driving, instant "Touring" ride...
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
I like it!
@AircraftMechanic-AP
@AircraftMechanic-AP 3 года назад
Time for an AWD transfer case swap
@1980z28cande
@1980z28cande Месяц назад
How does the truck ride on lowering keys
@davidgrant3940
@davidgrant3940 3 года назад
Newer Typhoon/ Cyclone thingy
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
I do like that idea
@LJimenez0185
@LJimenez0185 9 месяцев назад
Maybe a dum question, can I just remove the leaf spring block or do I need the lowering shackles? I just want to level the back of the truck to the front I’m not planning on lowering, hope someone can answer that question.
@TorquePowerVideo
@TorquePowerVideo 3 года назад
Looks good
@UcantBeSerious03
@UcantBeSerious03 3 года назад
you ruined it =) How wide are those lift blocks? It gave me an idea for my 55 chevy truck.
@dvnprtbrd
@dvnprtbrd 3 года назад
every body lifts 4x4 good you do something difrent
@leviwoodring6101
@leviwoodring6101 2 года назад
Lol I can't take my bed off. So let's hope I don't run into this.
@glennprovenzano1837
@glennprovenzano1837 2 года назад
Can that be done on a k1500 4x4 suburban thank you
@curvs4me
@curvs4me 3 года назад
The underpinnings of a ripper.
@danbrayton7031
@danbrayton7031 3 года назад
I dig it. Riptide was awesome. Are you going to convert this to awd too?
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
I would like to, but we’ll see
@jayandmadelinesemple3496
@jayandmadelinesemple3496 3 года назад
DROP IT LOWER
@TBGaels32
@TBGaels32 3 года назад
Im a die hard GM 4wd guy. while it drives me absolutely insane seeing a lowered 4wd, it depends on what youre doing with the truck. The truck you built on Truck Tech was a decent truck to say the least when you swapped the front end with a NP246.
@importcars03
@importcars03 3 года назад
How did this small drop affect ride quality? Does it ride smoother up front? Does it now have less ‘bucking’ front to back and side to side when driving on rough roads and over speed bumps?
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
pretty much the same to be honest
@mrgmc6314
@mrgmc6314 3 года назад
Snow flake 20s in bronze. !!!
@johnwhitty9069
@johnwhitty9069 3 года назад
Yeah I'm torn. I like the truck but for 4x4 I would have went up. You have ugly truck for low and fast. O well whats done is done im still going to watch what you end up doing with it but up would have been cool.
@catchphillies
@catchphillies 3 года назад
Badass!
@anthonyarellano5947
@anthonyarellano5947 2 года назад
Hey how’s it going brother good video👏🏽, I have a question and really need some help figuring out my situation I have a 05 gmc sierra single cab on a 2/7 drop an after I dropped the truck on a flip kit and hangers it won’t stop riding stiff it bounces for every single little bump I recently added shock extenders and it didn’t do a difference any suggestions on how I can fix it?
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 2 года назад
did you C-notch the frame? How far away from the bump stops are you? I might guess you are bottoming out somewhere
@xlrationmarine
@xlrationmarine 3 года назад
Better than the clowns that put a 6” lift on a 2 wheel drive truck.
@stephanstuelp4628
@stephanstuelp4628 Год назад
Sportside
@whitiesgarage
@whitiesgarage 3 года назад
Snowflakes are overdone but it’s because they look amazing. #PutThemOnEverything
@craigd123
@craigd123 Год назад
I bought a truck that has already been lifted tonight 33" tyres. Do I have to go back to stock suspension to.lower it?
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman Год назад
depends on how they lifted the truck, but if they just cranked the torsion keys or did a leveling kit, just swap out the leveling kit parts for stock ones and then you can lower it like I did
@craigd123
@craigd123 Год назад
@@LawrenceTolman thanks I check today. Can shock absorbers stretch that much? Or are longer ones put in for a lift?
@767dag
@767dag 3 года назад
OBS ? Ahhh what ls that
@danduval9311
@danduval9311 3 года назад
Lower!
@rotaxtwin
@rotaxtwin 3 года назад
That would have been fun if you tried to do the work without removing the box.
@donovanrauhala5320
@donovanrauhala5320 3 года назад
did you work with powernation???? i probably sound dumb haha
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
I hosted Truck Tech for 5 years
@donovanrauhala5320
@donovanrauhala5320 3 года назад
@@LawrenceTolman ohh so i did recognize you lol, but thats good for you lol
@torind2000
@torind2000 3 года назад
i like it, i was a big fan of your dodge / ford build off in powerblock. i have that f150 minus the platinum part and i really liked how that turned out. I want to do similar to mine, i think my wife would like it cuz she's super short heh.
@xozindustries7451
@xozindustries7451 3 года назад
I like it low
@Timmy6216
@Timmy6216 3 года назад
Step sides look killer lowered. Now, add mad power, and with some AWD action......awe yiss a street fighter for sure
@robhansen5194
@robhansen5194 3 года назад
Did the same to my NBS Z71, but I didn't have to use the keys, I just backed mine off a ways. Next is a flip with a notch and the 2 inch spindles. Do it!!
@1slow5point0
@1slow5point0 3 года назад
No complaints doing a 2/3 drop on my Ram 4wd. I’ve done the lifted route before, and I hardly ever even use 4wd, so it’s pretty pointless for me. Plenty of other mall crawlers around that can get the attention they want.
@gregday9943
@gregday9943 3 года назад
Oh man lt I would have had to clean the frame up and painted the frame
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
I’d like to have the whole thing powder coated at some point
@simonthebroken9691
@simonthebroken9691 3 года назад
I think it looks better lowered. Everything still functions to tow. Just a little less ground clearance.
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
exactly!
@saywhat664
@saywhat664 3 года назад
I have 04 Silverado 4x4 with 3/4 drop with DJM kit ( control arm/shackle). I bought new, modified it within 2 weeks and my neighbor never know it was 4x4. First deep snow day of their surprised look was price less. I never go off-road by the way, but looks and handles much better that couldn’t be happier.
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
yessah!
@corey6393
@corey6393 3 года назад
Looks great to me. When you guys did the low red OBS truck, I was motivated to do one for myself. Haven't found the right truck yet, but I keep looking, and it will happen. Not so concerned about AWD, just a nice stance that still allows for winter traction. Thanks for sharing this one with us. And hello from North Idaho!
@concernedviewer2641
@concernedviewer2641 3 года назад
I'm not saying you have to borrow the war whistle from ugly truck to throw at this LS but would it be such a tragedy if it happened and you had to put drag radials all around and launch on 4 hi?
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
I’m half tempted to throw the whole 8.1 and everything in there and make is awd
@MartinHernandez-bd3wo
@MartinHernandez-bd3wo 3 года назад
I have a 2001 chevy stepside with 22 inch snowflakes, with a 6-4 drop and it is also 4x4. I hear it all the time that I ruined the truck. But to each there own. Love the truck man
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
my favorite wheels are the snowflakes!
@Chase.bachler
@Chase.bachler 3 года назад
I’m so glad my truck is an all original Texas truck. Second owner from 2012 and working on it is a breeze. Never have to deal with rust issues
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
luckily this one is pretty solid, but those shackles gave me a workout
@shallowhal5946
@shallowhal5946 3 года назад
Fuel the Al Gor ithm
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
Needs to be fed!
@many-points
@many-points 3 года назад
You know what else was lowered? GMC Syclone. PLEASE do an AWD conversion and turbo the 4.8 as a Syclone homage, very fitting for a short bed black truck.
@LawrenceTolman
@LawrenceTolman 3 года назад
you're on the right track for sure
@Trashencash
@Trashencash 3 года назад
I like this 1
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