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Baffles me that people spoil video games like hollow knight for themselves
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@TheStellarJay
@TheStellarJay Год назад
1. The discord giveaway is over! The song was サニーボーイ・ラプソディ (Sonny boy Rhapsody), congrats to the winner! 2. Blurred certain sections because I'm an idiot and spoiled them while saying you should play them without spoilers.
@owen551
@owen551 Год назад
What if they just shazamed it
@HappySisyphus0
@HappySisyphus0 Год назад
@@owen551 He was talking over the song so I don't think they could have done that
@unnameduser2529
@unnameduser2529 Год назад
damn already????
@ZeeboJNR
@ZeeboJNR Год назад
Glad someone else won tbh would’ve been left blue balled since it’s a good ass song
@nojars4199
@nojars4199 Год назад
thats such a banger nice pick
@ikaika1801
@ikaika1801 Год назад
Gaming subreddits could be a great place to study mass hysteria
@ANoisyBroodOfFunch
@ANoisyBroodOfFunch Год назад
key word there, subreddit
@smokepeashooter3859
@smokepeashooter3859 Год назад
Arguements*
@rainbowresorts
@rainbowresorts Год назад
Dawg theyre just meming, what? Why are people acting like theyre psychotic for joking around
@rya1701
@rya1701 Год назад
titanfall subreddit
@GimOA
@GimOA Год назад
@@smokepeashooter3859 Argugrugement
@MorningLightMtn
@MorningLightMtn Год назад
Remember when the Hollow Knight community all simultaneously agreed that sacrificing Mossbag was the only way to appease Team Cherry and make them release Silksong? Those were some funny times
@therookiegamer2727
@therookiegamer2727 Год назад
and the piss wars. no i will not elaborate for the sake of my own sanity
@mustafaqasimi1084
@mustafaqasimi1084 Год назад
@@therookiegamer2727 lots of good men died in those days
@djroscurro9859
@djroscurro9859 Год назад
@@therookiegamer2727 I’d ask wtf happened in the piss wars but It almost sounds like I don’t wanna know
@blakksheep736
@blakksheep736 Год назад
@@djroscurro9859 me neither...
@mud4309
@mud4309 Год назад
We didnt forget. Just workin on the plan to kill him
@Soulessblur
@Soulessblur 7 месяцев назад
Every time I look up something in a video game, I end up upset at myself for spoiling myself from figuring it out blind and I've ruined my experience. Every time I stick to it until I solve it on my own, I end up upset at myself for not caving and looking it up sooner, because the solution wasn't satisfying, and I feel like I've wasted my time and I've ruined my experience. Life sucks.
@driftingdruid
@driftingdruid 5 месяцев назад
why do you rest the blame on yourself regardless of what you did to solve a problem and try to enjoy a game?
@Lucios1995
@Lucios1995 5 месяцев назад
​@@driftingdruid Yeah if I give a puzzle 20 to 30 minutes and get nothing i'll just look it up. I can't imagine myself beating Grim Fandango without this
@tomn1568
@tomn1568 21 день назад
Personally I don't enjoy puzzles so I look everything up as soon as it's not instantly obvious, i like gameplay not figuring things out that will waste my time and still not give me any satisfaction. Everyone is different right, I don't think there is a correct way to play anything just whatever makes you happy
@dailymadness5159
@dailymadness5159 3 дня назад
Get a friend/girlfriend and have them look it up for u and guide u. If u don't have one . . . sorry?
@hydroloafe
@hydroloafe 9 месяцев назад
the irony of ushering people who haven't been spoiled on those select games to play them and THEN SPOILING ACT 2 OF DDLC SECONDS LATER is crazy
@oXRaptorzXo
@oXRaptorzXo 23 дня назад
Not at all a spoiler. I have no clue what I saw.
@theaxbowlotl
@theaxbowlotl Год назад
Going into a game completely blind is a very surreal experience. It's really hard to do these days, especially when gaming and the internet is a prominent thing, so those few moments where you know absolutely nothing is almost magical.
@chrisperez8407
@chrisperez8407 Год назад
I simply just play old games that no one really talks about consistently anymore like final fantasy 1-10 or the original resident evil and silent hill trilogies. I got blind playthroughs for all of them and it was such an amazing experience
@manray0703
@manray0703 Год назад
I find this argument kind of lacking. The individual chooses to remain blind to a game or if they want to start looking into it. Its very easy to avoid something you dont want to see. KH3 was a game that i didnt want to know anything about but that was a horrible choice. I wish i had read up on it before i bought it. That game was a disappointment. Point being, i was able to avoid being informed on the game by not looking for it.
@madeofcastiron
@madeofcastiron Год назад
grew up not that well off so i only had my own first ever playstation console like 2 years ago (i’m 24). got the ps4 pro and got some must-have games like horizon zero dawn, god of war and spider-man. i had absolutely no idea what even the general premise of the games are, but i loved every single moment playing those games. it felt like i was discovering the world, learning the skills and the history alongside the characters. the gaming experience felt more immersive and intimate.
@potawatadingdong
@potawatadingdong Год назад
@@manray0703 You say this until you accidentally read a comment or a video titled that says "Arthur Morgan Dies". Suddenly the end of a game is spoiled for you forever. This is true for any form of media. You don't have to *search* for something to have it spoiled for you.
@ajlendful
@ajlendful Год назад
@@potawatadingdong I know this sucks but the fact that you know something is going to happen in a story doesn't mean it's not worth getting through. Also you can make an effort to not going to videos or pages dedicated to the media you are consuming, which is the point of the video.
@bananabed9492
@bananabed9492 Год назад
"And play them COMPLETLY blind," He says while spoiling DDLC with a image
@Stuckley
@Stuckley Год назад
hes complaining about spoilers while showing spoilers in his video 😐
@bananabed9492
@bananabed9492 Год назад
@@Stuckley Hes just a master editor.
@rintinrina
@rintinrina Год назад
lmao you mean a game that released in 2017, dominated all of RU-vid for like a year straight, and was memed to hell and back. yeah don't want that to be spoiled for you...
@snakevenoum6395
@snakevenoum6395 Год назад
@@rintinrina the point was that he's a hypocrite, at no point did they say that he spoiled it for them.
@KitnaMW
@KitnaMW Год назад
​@@rintinrina So if I haven't played, let's say, Portal or Persona and want to play them as blindly as possible, I'm not allowed to do it cause they weren't released yesterday or there were too many memes about them? Why we can't just agree to not spoiling anything if no one asked to, and ESPECIALLY if you are the one who's whining about games being spoiled and thus ruined, is that too difficult to do?
@A2daM2daZ
@A2daM2daZ 9 месяцев назад
I would say a counterpoint is, if you just don't have the time. If you're older and work and don't have the luxury of spending hours discovering all the secrets in a game, it's okay to spoil yourself a little. That was one way I held myself back. I wasn't enjoying games because I didn't allow myself to look up some of the secrets and easter eggs that sometimes make the whole game fun. And I get a terrible feeling of missing out. It's okay to look stuff up, play on easy mode, or get assistance if it means you enjoy the game more in the little time you have available to play it.
@Daniel_WR_Hart
@Daniel_WR_Hart 8 месяцев назад
That's what did with Blasphemous after I beat the game but only had 97% of all items
@Maskeroff.
@Maskeroff. 7 месяцев назад
Me and Elden Ring. Yeah I’m spoiling myself, but I just like finding everything, even if missing something is ultimately okay.
@thelastpersononearth9765
@thelastpersononearth9765 6 месяцев назад
As a college student, I agree. You don't always have time for that. You are playing like for hour per day, I won't like to spend 5 hrs on a single level. I like slow paced games but I don't like being Stuck on a level for hours.
@RickJaeger
@RickJaeger 4 месяца назад
FOMO is made up. Just don't feel it.
@AaronChristianMAcma
@AaronChristianMAcma 4 месяца назад
​@@Maskeroff. same, i have work , and i can't sacrifice my sleep. I still enjoy every minute of the game despite being spoiled. It would still need to have a certain level of skill to finished a boss fight.
@piadas804
@piadas804 9 месяцев назад
I really do not understand when people say they are not spoiling anything if the game is [insert age] years old.
@davidreljac1707
@davidreljac1707 8 месяцев назад
It's not that they're not spoiling anything, it's that you had enough time to play the damn game and you didn't, getting spoiled is equally yours and the spoilers fault.
@piadas804
@piadas804 8 месяцев назад
@@davidreljac1707 That assumes everyone knows every video game, movie, and TV series ever. I, myself, just discovered this video game about one week ago, so I literally did not have enough time to play the damn game. That goes for everything.
@davidreljac1707
@davidreljac1707 8 месяцев назад
@@piadas804 Yeah, but the rule of "Nobody cares, it's been [Blank amount] years already" is still something people apply to all sorts of media. By your logic, Shakespeare's works have been spoiled to everyone, since everyone knows how Romeo and Juliet. But guess what? Nobody cares, it's been 430 years already!
@piadas804
@piadas804 8 месяцев назад
@@davidreljac1707 "Nobody" cares because Shakespeare's works are not popular nowadays. Some video games, movies, and TV series are extremely popular, and people actually care for their plot.
@davidreljac1707
@davidreljac1707 8 месяцев назад
@@piadas804 If popularity is your measure of what should and shouldn't be spoiled, then A LOT of entertainmento media can be freely spoiled to anyone (This includes things that are not old but haven't garnered much popularity). Besides, measuring purely on popularity is very flawed, as it assumes everyone everywhere shares the same awareness of the popularity of a specific topic, when that couldn't be farther from the truth.
@noahdamoiseaux5606
@noahdamoiseaux5606 Год назад
I once looked up how to solve a Zelda puzzle and felt so stupid when the solution was just the one thing I hadn't tried
@coyraig8332
@coyraig8332 Год назад
I once looked up how to solve a Zelda puzzle and felt so mad because the solution is way simpler than the puzzle
@Siilas29
@Siilas29 Год назад
That fucking puzzle in control... i tried for 3 hours without discovering and my cousin on the call just searched and gave me the answer... i was so mad, but happy that i passed that stupid puzzle
@Sireington
@Sireington Год назад
Yeah, that tends to happen in some puzzle heavy series like portal or Zelda: every once in a while, you’ll get a puzzle that you just don’t get, and it turns out to be the simplest thing ever
@ikagura
@ikagura 11 месяцев назад
Sometimes I think the solution is a convoluted thing when it's simpler.
@HammyBoy414
@HammyBoy414 8 месяцев назад
Not overthinking the puzzle is probably the hardest puzzle that any Zelda game has to offer.
@007feck
@007feck Год назад
I love when a community answers without spoilers though- if you were stuck in outer wilds, everyone would be very careful not to tell you where to go - they’d probably just hint at a clue the game gave you already, so you still get to figure it out - without giving up completely
@EmberWilds
@EmberWilds Год назад
@Metal Sign to be fair spoiler mode is also just really fun to say for some reason, plus it's technically more correct since it encompasses (the other spoiler)
@heracrux5307
@heracrux5307 Год назад
I feel like The Witness community is like this
@batmal0347
@batmal0347 Год назад
Hades community too, try not to spoil the main boss etcetera
@MnemonicHeadTrip
@MnemonicHeadTrip Год назад
God please play outer wilds if anyone is reading this
@lordjzargo7940
@lordjzargo7940 Год назад
@@MnemonicHeadTrip PLAY OUTER WILDS PLEASEEE. IT'S SOOO GOOD, I CAN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT JUST TRUST ME PLEASE, PLAY IT BLIND
@draklynx8308
@draklynx8308 Год назад
As someone who needs to look things up sometimes, I usually give myself a limit of “have I checked every available/logical area twice” and a time limit based on how difficult the puzzle or whatever seems to be intended to be. And also the ability to realize that sometimes I’m just a dumbass who gets stuck in a normal ass room because I decided the exit point couldn’t possibly be right because it was slightly high and my character could possibly jump up there (I could in fact jump up there)
@lighthouseraven
@lighthouseraven Год назад
The only time I’ve ever looked something up in a Zelda game: -playing ocarina of time on N64 -just got slingshot in first dungeon -couldn’t find my way out of the room because the door was on an elevated area -got stuck in that stupid room for 69420 years, tried everything -pulled out my paper tutorial booklet and found the page on this area -“Ohhhh I need to use the slingshot I just got to knock the ladder off of the ceiling so I can climb to the door! Now I can continue the dungeon!” -hit the ladder and the “you did something right” sound effect plays But seriously, why was the ladder on the fucking ceiling???
@paradoxicaloutcome1007
@paradoxicaloutcome1007 Год назад
"I spoiled the monkey boss to myself by watching a youtube video" Me, not having played the game yet, watching him immediately spoil the boss for me with the background footage:
@lordreno8911
@lordreno8911 Год назад
I know right, I am literally playing Sekiro right now, and I had no clue that that boss even existed.
@robertfischer5648
@robertfischer5648 Год назад
exactly lol
@zigsynx5364
@zigsynx5364 Год назад
I feel bad for you guys, because initially it took hours for me to even take him out, only for that to happen. Was very satisfying finally beating him though.
@kccts44
@kccts44 Год назад
420, nice
@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725
@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 Год назад
I am currently playing hollow knight... 0:55 Spoiler warning AFTER he showed the full goddamn map and shown things i havent gotten to yet. Like gee thanks bro 👌 i will never watch any of his content again
@quoipi
@quoipi Год назад
"Do yourself a favour and play them completely blind" proceeds to immediately put up a visual spoiler for DDLC
@scarabdust
@scarabdust Год назад
That wasn't spoiling anything though, except maybe that the game isn't just a cute dating game. But if you couldn't figure that out from "Psycholgical Horror" then that's on you tbh
@quoipi
@quoipi Год назад
@@scarabdust As he mentions in the video, without looking into it you wouldn't know WHY it has the psychological horror tag. The visual effects are a huge contributor to the vibe of the game, so spoiling that aspect is still a spoiler.
@scarabdust
@scarabdust Год назад
@@quoipi You still don't really learn anything from that screencap other than "well, the game gets a little dark and scary." Which again, you probably could have gleaned from the Psychological Horror tag and the fact that the game straight up warns you that disturbing things will happen.
@bananacakesmckanzee7290
@bananacakesmckanzee7290 Год назад
@@scarabdust The term “psychological horror” can mean anything that relates to disturbing themes, but the main twist of the game is that it becomes glitchy and sentient -breaks the 4th wall-( which is what this vid shows here). I think part of the magic is that the game spends 2-3 hours being an actual (non-horror) dating sim, so when stuff started to get glitchy and messed-up, it’s really meant to take you by surprise. You first think that the dark part is the ending of your 1st playthrough, and may go to for your 2nd to avoid it from happening… and then game says NOPE and decides to not hold back anymore. I played the game when it was still new and only a handful of youtubers put out their first episode/s of their playthrough , so maybe it was different experience compared to now where everyone knows to some extent that DDLC is culturally accepted as a horror game.
@scarabdust
@scarabdust Год назад
@@bananacakesmckanzee7290 We have the context of the game though, so we know what the dark glitchy stuff means when we see screenshots or screencaps. A completely new player wouldn't really take away anything from the screencap in the video--other than, again, that the game gets dark and isn't a normal dating sim. An actual spoiler would be like a screenshot of Sayori hanging herself or something, not something that has zero context.
@novus6344
@novus6344 10 месяцев назад
Counterpoint: There are tons of things that I would've never found in Hollow Knight if I had never searched it up. For instance, the Hive entrance is really well hidden and would take hours of searching to actually find unless you got lucky. Some people don't want to do that and actually want to make progress :)
@uchihabean9689
@uchihabean9689 9 месяцев назад
this i could understand sometimes it just feels like youre missing something even though youve thought you searched every single nook and cranny
@shanerichart
@shanerichart 9 месяцев назад
Counterpoint: That doesn't rationalize looking up guides on the internet for every shortcoming you come across because that, as he says in the video, ruins the game. Also bees roam around entrances and exits of the Hive so it's a subtle hint.
@bourne.
@bourne. 9 месяцев назад
​​@@shanerichartyeah but there's games that straight up hide stuff so stupidly that it makes no sense like for example fromsoft games, there is not a single person I've met that found out where Nameless king, Owl father or Darklurker is without looking up a guide and sometimes these things are missable so you'd just be playing the game thinking yeah I'll just keep playing till I find out then reach a certain point where it becomes unaccessible, guides for well hidden stuff like this or things like items are justifiable Imo, it doesn't ruin the game at all if you're literally missing out on the cool stuff that the game has but is locked behind a complex system
@shanerichart
@shanerichart 9 месяцев назад
@@bourne. Fair point taken, but we're talking about games that encourage the player to search around and break things to find new areas. The only vague area to unlock is maybe Kingdom's edge, but I haven't met someone who missed that. When people encounter a single shortcoming they dash to Reddit and ask questions even though they obviously haven't found an item or hit a lever yet. The point made in the video is that if you sacrifice going into the game blind to overcome a problem that could be easily fixed later on spoils the game. Hollow Knight is a game that literally makes you explore so when you come across one locked door or something it shouldn't be imperative to hastily dash to a social media website and spoil your own experience for obvious answers.
@marxstarlight8169
@marxstarlight8169 9 месяцев назад
"Things that I would've never found" followed by "would take hours of searching to actually find" meaning you just invalidated your argument and called yourself lazy, getting the collector's map helped me find the entrance so just playing enough will give you everything you need
@catchet1
@catchet1 9 месяцев назад
“By the way, if you haven’t been spoiled for these games, half of which I just spoiled for you by showing various snippets of late game sequences, play them!” Gotta love video game RU-vidrs.
@FreePigeon
@FreePigeon 4 месяца назад
"Hey I'll click on a video featuring a game I haven't played and don't want to see spoilers for. Why are there spoilers?! REEEEE" Gotta love video game consumers. If you haven't played Hollow Knight by now, you're probably never going to, you can't demand the internet remain careful of spoilers forever. Btw Sephiroth kills Aerith, Snape kills Dumbledore, Samus is a woman, and the cake isn't a lie.
@catchet1
@catchet1 4 месяца назад
@@FreePigeon This is such a strange take because it's assuming everyone has all of the time in the world to play video games and not miss out on releases, or more simply just not be in the mood to play a specific type of game at a given time. Not to mention the younger generation who is growing up and playing older video games. Ever heard of college before? A job maybe? If not, the website called indeed is rather helpful. You could use it. Might teach you a thing or two. The video is centered about not ruining video games and it's ruining them by telling spoilers for the game the video is centered around. This isn't exactly rocket science. I'm sure somewhere in that rotting husk of a skull there's some resemblance of a brain and deep down, and I mean really deep down, you are a smart and educated individual who is capable of critical thinking and basic comprehension.
@usergk71
@usergk71 Месяц назад
@@catchet1what if all they have is a rotting husk of a skull?
@pontiffsulyvahn3898
@pontiffsulyvahn3898 8 дней назад
@@catchet1 jesus christ, i mean you're right but holy shit, why so vicious?
@Hi-tw4yk
@Hi-tw4yk 19 часов назад
@@FreePigeon chronically online jesus christ, not every single person is aware of every single new video game release because perhaps they have a life outside of the internet. fair enough that its not the internets responsibility to remain spoiler free for you at all times but its entirely possible someone has just never really heard of a video game or piece of media until much later, so the whole "if you haven't played Hollow Knight yet you're never going to" just isn't true
@ibz
@ibz Год назад
Wow an informative video that doesnt run around in circles for 30 minutes. Straight to the point, provided examples and humor. Amazing video!
@TheStellarJay
@TheStellarJay Год назад
Ibz! Love your videos man
@ibz
@ibz Год назад
@@TheStellarJay I just found your channel, I like what I see so far. You got a big future ahead!
@igorthelight
@igorthelight Год назад
"...that doesnt run around in circles for 30 minutes." - Ni-ni-ni-ni-ni-ni! ;-)
@gooigipie4390
@gooigipie4390 Год назад
This means a lot when ibz(#1 hater) is the one saying it
@kayplaya86
@kayplaya86 Год назад
I mean, he could've ran in corcles a LITTLE bot just to get monetized, I wouldn't complain
@notacat6832
@notacat6832 Год назад
Sadly I usually don't expect to get a game so I just watch videos on it without thinking I would actually play it, then later I get the game from like a gift or something and I had it spoiled for myself by myself, truly one of the experiences ever
@Melotaku
@Melotaku Год назад
haha me with Hollow Knight. I watched a playthrough up until the Broken Vessel boss (those who know what happens after you beat it understand) thinking I would probably never play this game. Until I realized that I might actually love this game so I stopped watching it and played it myself. God damnit I wish I went in blind. (Hollow Knight is still my all time favorite game though)
@notacat6832
@notacat6832 Год назад
@@Melotaku same with me but I actually watched a 100% playthrough fully twice, then I realized I had Xbox game pass (which is on computer too for some reason), which had hollow knight, and I got it
@chenwingsee
@chenwingsee Год назад
Deepnest isn't too bad!! You should venture in!! When it got too creepy atmosphere wise though I would play podcasts so I would be less scared LMAO
@notacat6832
@notacat6832 Год назад
@@chenwingsee well I mean I've been into deepnest but I am to lazy to do it and I just don't like the ambiance I'm not exactly "scared", I just don't like the area
@Melotaku
@Melotaku Год назад
@@notacat6832 I actually quite like the atmosphere of deepnest. But I love dark and eerie environments in games so I'm a bit biased. I do prefer the abyss over deepnest though.
@shadowking2926
@shadowking2926 Год назад
I feel completely different to you. Most of the time when I play a game, I like looking things up so I know where to go. When I get stuck on a puzzle long enough, I just look it up, and I (almost) always think, "ohhhhhh! That's how you do it! Clever." ...I really suck at puzzles. But it's an interesting look into the difference in psychology between us. Ofc I don't spoil games for others, cause their experience is important to me.
@thecoolestofthe834s2
@thecoolestofthe834s2 5 месяцев назад
i dont give a fuck about puzzles in games if its not ap uzzle game i remeber bdos old way of unlock khazarka only time ive ever cheated clientside in a game
@RGcrasyRG
@RGcrasyRG Месяц назад
Actually some puzzles are so frustrating that after finally finding the solution my reaction is "welp, this was dumb".
@ghostguch1007
@ghostguch1007 Год назад
I usually have a rule that I don’t look anything up until I’ve tried for like 20-30 minutes to figure out what to do. I find this works pretty well for me because that way I end up figuring out most things completely by myself, but don’t have to spend an entire day stuck on 1 part of a game where I have no idea what to do. This is only if I’m completely stumped. As much as I miss the feeling of finally figuring out where to go or what to do from my childhood, now that I’m an adult I just can’t justify spending that level of time making zero progress any more. Don’t have unlimited time to play video games these days
@professorantasma6591
@professorantasma6591 Год назад
I agree to this. I only had to look up one thing. *THOSE DAMNED BOUNCY MUSHROOMS!*
@tyleredge5349
@tyleredge5349 Год назад
I give myself an hour because I got stuff to do and limited time.
@ianxe
@ianxe Год назад
I dont search it up unless im so bored of trying to figure it out that im about to quit
@RandomStando
@RandomStando Год назад
agreed, I think it's completely understandable to look up a hint or a solution if you've spent a stupidly long time on a puzzle that should be easy
@Williamfp
@Williamfp Год назад
I do this with Metroid (older Metroid not modern modern is very clear)
@marshkipgaming1754
@marshkipgaming1754 Год назад
The best way to play story driven games like this are as the developer intended, not looking up how to play it on reddit.
@janjunker6458
@janjunker6458 Год назад
Sadly some people are not patient enouth to explore If you are searching the last few thing an cant find them, its a bit more understandable than being "stuck" in the very earlygame
@Tamos40000
@Tamos40000 Год назад
I dare you to finish the original Day of the Tentacle without looking the answers in a guide.
@janjunker6458
@janjunker6458 Год назад
@@Tamos40000 me?
@Tamos40000
@Tamos40000 Год назад
@@janjunker6458 It was more of a general "you"
@janjunker6458
@janjunker6458 Год назад
@@Tamos40000 ahh
@teriyaki_chicken
@teriyaki_chicken 9 месяцев назад
"These people spoil the games for themselves! Anyway, here's me spoiling the game for you :3 "
@SatanicPizza-fo2ei
@SatanicPizza-fo2ei 6 месяцев назад
I am currently playing Hollow Knight and though I have spoiled myself quite some lore because I am hungry for lore and I watched someone guide me through Fungal Wastes, because I had absolutely no clue how to navigate that terrain. I did however venture off and explore some other place in Fungal Wastes while the person in the video was explaining some other area in Fungal Wastes. I still feel like my Hollow Knight experience is uniquely my own and nobody can spoil how exactly I'm playing it. Besides, the community has managed to fool me with some things (Grubfather) and I am hoping that I wasn’t lied to about a way to save a certain someone with a flower. I think why my playthrough experience in HK feels isolated from everyone else's is just how the map is and I have often ventured out of map bounds and lost my ways and had to refind them or die. I wouldn't look up someone explaining how to beat Hornet in Greenpath or No Eyes, but I think I will definitely look for guidance it I ever face Radiance because I am scared and I would also do so if I had no clue who Radiance was and accidentally stumbled into the fight. My fingers would immediately fly over to google after dying a couple of times without progress or not because I am getting too obsessed with beating Radiance so I would keep at it until my hands would be in literal pain after doing all the moves xD
@DemonixTB
@DemonixTB Год назад
"play these games blind if you haven't!" proceeds to spoil the exact moments he said he doesnt want spoiled for himself. good job
@speokeosai
@speokeosai Год назад
lmao
@paradoxicaloutcome1007
@paradoxicaloutcome1007 Год назад
I was fuming when he showed the monkey boss fight's twist in the background footage without warning while complaining about that EXACT moment getting spoiled for him.
@Terracosm
@Terracosm Год назад
@@paradoxicaloutcome1007 same thing happened when he was talking about ddlc briefly at the end
@questionsayer
@questionsayer Год назад
Yea, I was thinking about that myself… Not the smartest move
@BlayBlaytheNutcase
@BlayBlaytheNutcase Год назад
He also got the skip timestamp for Hollow Knight wrong. Yeah the game is 5 years old but if you're gonna do a spoiler warning anyway please make sure the timestamp is right.
@Eryph
@Eryph Год назад
I love going on the hollow knight subreddit once every couple of months and seeing what batshit psycho nonsense they're up to. It's never boring, they're always framing a bug for arson or agreeing to sacrifice a youtube personality to get team cherry to release silksong or gaslighting themselves into believing the game is already out. One of my favorite corners of the internet.
@bandannadoo
@bandannadoo Год назад
All for a game that’s just been taking a little bit longer than average to make. Imagine if the Duke Nukem fan base was as impatient as Hollow Knight, they would’ve literally gone insane waiting for Duke Nukem Forever
@brandonm1708
@brandonm1708 Год назад
@@bandannadoo the funny thing is despite going a bit crazy over (previously) not having news about Silksong, the majority of the fanbase is perfectly accepting of not having it release for a few years. They know that the longer the wait for it, the more likely it will be even better than the original.
@irlywannadie8409
@irlywannadie8409 Год назад
ur comment is gold lmao
@fennyfoxy3435
@fennyfoxy3435 Год назад
fr
@ashleyb3527
@ashleyb3527 Год назад
After months of feeling like a clown thinking news would come out, it's official silksong is coming out this year !!
@grogueQ
@grogueQ 9 дней назад
Every time I look up a secret in a video game I'm so excited because I get to move on and not waste three more hours figuring it out.
@Jake2534
@Jake2534 7 месяцев назад
I've always seen hollow knight as a game of trial, error, exploring and unexpected bossfights and because I don't usually have internet so I don't have the choice of searching a minor inconvenience so I have to go around finding secrets, lore and cool new characters sharing their experiences also I love how the game tell a story of an underdog who gives of a strong sense of power
@ea8702
@ea8702 Год назад
Hollow knight players: *missed a jump* These people: now this is an avengers level threat
@paradox1315
@paradox1315 Год назад
Take my like and take it with pride 😂
@justanotheridiot8906
@justanotheridiot8906 Год назад
So here's a question, does the point of "It ruins the excitement and fun of figuring it out" still stand when the game stops being fun because you can't figure anything out?
@Mr_lemonvr
@Mr_lemonvr Год назад
fair point
@kungfupacman
@kungfupacman Год назад
The best way to play the game is the one where you can finish the game is how I see it. *Looks over at the hundreds of incomplete games in my steam library* ....Yeah so as long as you are having fun you are doing it right.
@cahcd
@cahcd Год назад
think that's why he said "unless you are genuinely frustrated," as, for example, with the hollow knight thing, that person clearly did not exhaust all available options before going on the website to figure it out basically, at least give the game a shot on its own before you try to look it up, which might seem obvious, but based on some of the reddit posts shown in this video, it demonstrably isn't to everyone
@Ethereal6541
@Ethereal6541 Год назад
unless you have exhausted all your options and genuinely arent having fun anymore, just assume it will get resolved by the end of the game, dont look it up, if its a puzzle you need to do now, try taking a bit of a break, approaching stuff from a new perspective while being less immersed helps with a lot of puzzles
@anderdrache8504
@anderdrache8504 Год назад
Hollow Knight and many metroidvania/puzzle/exploration games work partly because the "frustration" you feel just makes the success feel better. But sure, before completely giving up a game, looking something up carefully might be worth it. Asking friends who already played that game for a hint might work even better because they won't spoil half of the game.
@mihchin
@mihchin Год назад
I'm so glad that I started my hollow knight journey with almost no knowledge about it. I just picked up the game cause I had extra money left and it was on a steam sale. I had no idea it was this much of a masterpiece.
@nihili4196
@nihili4196 Месяц назад
To be fair, it's completely fine to ask while playing metroidvania if you just suck at platforming or if this place is supposed to be visited later. And in that example, I would just say "Go somewhere else, come back later" Same thing with boss fights, it's fine to ask of you're not skilled enough, you can't see the pattern or if you're too early. But asking about every single thing can be obnoxious. And it can spoil your fun. But that ladder part is heavily dependant on answers you'll get. And when it comes to mass hysteria subreddits, it's fun to pretend sometimes that world you live in is just a tiny bit a little bit less cruel
@Auren23
@Auren23 Год назад
The magic of playing through your first playthrough of any game is the not knowing and finding out things for yourself is indeed one of the best feelings ever. I quickly found out that playing a game where you already know everything that happens gets really boring really fast...
@kola8076
@kola8076 Год назад
Definitely. I think we all wish we could play a game like hollow knight again for the first time. Magic really is the best word to describe it 😊
@NeoDark93
@NeoDark93 Год назад
Can't relate If the surprise factor is the only thing making a game interesting and fun, then it probably wasn't very good in the first place.
@cynthiahembree3957
@cynthiahembree3957 Год назад
I feel this. Its why I won't google any guides. Was shocked to think people actually look up maps for hollow knight
@Dan_Kanerva
@Dan_Kanerva Год назад
@@NeoDark93 dont be a smartass , they obviously nnean that the surprise ENHANCES the experience... not that is all the game has to it. For example : Bloodborne . If you know what happens in the story , the game is still awesome , but if you dont , it is the most unique experience of your life
@matyas9552
@matyas9552 Год назад
While true, a lot of games with complex systems and broad skilltrees seem better when you already know what to do. The first time i played Prey and Witcher 3, i got captured by the story, but i was also confused when it came to skills and crafting. Second time, i already knew my way around and could make a build that is way more fun and engaging.
@sleepychickadee4087
@sleepychickadee4087 Год назад
I definitely prefer to avoid looking up things like puzzle solutions. I adore the feeling of satisfaction that comes with working through a difficult challenge. Being legally blind though, about half the time I struggle with something, it literally comes down to me not seeing something. For that reason I give it the ol’ college try, then look it up after half an hour to an hour. The feeling of satisfaction that comes with solving a puzzle isn’t great enough for me to persevere when, more than likely, I just can’t see a switch or something.
@meee_5155
@meee_5155 Год назад
I give a puzzle two hours give or take of not making progress before I look up an answer. I feel like that is a good compromise
@sleepychickadee4087
@sleepychickadee4087 Год назад
@@meee_5155 Oh, totally! I’d say that’s reasonable.
@k-koldgaming2509
@k-koldgaming2509 Год назад
@@meee_5155 im in the same boat, if it takes too long, or i just cant seem to figure it out after a set period of time, solution hunting happens.
@skywoofyt5375
@skywoofyt5375 Год назад
sometimes tho i just get bored of the puzzles cause I've been stuck on them for a while and just search up the answers online
@unknowncloak2073
@unknowncloak2073 Год назад
Y’a In hollow knight I killed broken vessel and then it’s dream varient lost kin then proceeded to search 99% of the map looking for the Monarch wings. I had to look up their location. From the various places I’d seen I knew there had to be a double jump somewhere and I was a room off from swing it
@sistovanbreugel8880
@sistovanbreugel8880 7 месяцев назад
Never expected to ever hear the link click soundtrack on a youtube video about games. One of my fav anime and it makes it eaven fuunnier when you mentioned people complimenting your music choice at the end of the vid
@logansorochuk1204
@logansorochuk1204 10 месяцев назад
So many games are just a blast to play blind and so many people just encounter one small problem and immediately turn to the internet instead of trying to figure it out themselves which can really ruin the charm of a puzzle or boss
@Minecraftgod1200
@Minecraftgod1200 Год назад
Love this but when 90% of games have/had hidden shit that you could only try for one time on a specific level you tend to dwell on that ledge wondering "if I leave can I come back?"
@ivaldi13
@ivaldi13 Год назад
It helps to refine your search-fu for spoiler-free guides/tips, answers to specific questions (like "Are there points of no return in [game title here]?"), and beginner's guides.
@jpraczbr8413
@jpraczbr8413 Год назад
Just start over?
@handlesrstupid123
@handlesrstupid123 Год назад
@@jpraczbr8413 a very good point I struggle to just hit the reset in games and do over, you really need to in strategy games with connecting campaign battles
@someguy8273
@someguy8273 Год назад
@@jpraczbr8413 dude, I got a fulltime job, and a backlog bigger than most kid's Christmas lists. Ain't nobody got time for that.
@iceunderlord
@iceunderlord Год назад
@@jpraczbr8413 not an option for people who work or don't have that much time to play, i do prefer looking for the trophy guide and go to the missable and related to difficulty trophies so i don't have to do 2 runs reasons i don't have that much fun in games anymore is due to grinding for collectibles and having to play first on hard, then on the next difficulty level it unlocks when you beat the game
@ethanunglesbee1137
@ethanunglesbee1137 Год назад
I think it just comes down to people having never played a game that dosen't hand everything to them on a silver platter, also known as a game that dosen't baby its players.
@laka4049
@laka4049 Год назад
Probably, but you gotta admit that when you search at least 3 hours for one thing it get's annoying and it'd not gonna be fun anymore
@savary5050
@savary5050 Год назад
@@laka4049 those people did not search for three hours my guy
@RushWheeler
@RushWheeler Год назад
Also known as an indie game
@kinggamereon653
@kinggamereon653 Год назад
@@laka4049 yeah When playing through ori and the will of the wisps I had to check like 2 things from a walkthrought as I hadn't figured them out and had walled through the map 3-4 times checking each potential road to reach more progression and still not finding anything But that's about the amount I think doesn't ruin the whole experience
@Pandora880
@Pandora880 Год назад
@@RushWheeler VIDEO GAME RACISM
@Seekab00
@Seekab00 7 месяцев назад
To be fair there are far too many games that do come out in such a broken state that in SOME cases it is perfectly reasonable to look up if it's a bug or a feature.
@husk3715
@husk3715 2 месяца назад
I remember reading once that the zelda creator would specifically make super hidden secrets in the game so that people would talk about it you shouldn't look every little thing up at first sight but some things are made to be talked about
@NathanAndYair
@NathanAndYair Год назад
Here’s the thing. I completely 100% agree with you. But, the thing is, people have fun in different ways. When my dad was younger and playing the first Legend of Zelda game, he and his friends would meet up and tell each other about all the new things they’d found and all the dungeons they’d managed to solve. They actually wrote all of their findings in a journal and even had maps of the game world. My point is, whenever one of them got stuck, they would go ask the other person for help, and they went back and forth like this until, eventually, they beat the game. I think that would enhance the experience. My dad even said he felt like he would’ve had less fun with the game had someone not been there to help him through it. I’m not saying everyone has to play like this, I’m just saying that for some people, it’s more fun to ask for help.
@zoki4291
@zoki4291 Год назад
This, but I also think that it's also about what the game is as well. Undertale? Toby Fox had trouble making a trailer because almost every instance would count as huge spoilers. Legend of Zelda? Apparently developers themselves wanted the game to be played like your dad played, a game with a pure sense of adventure with your friends, same with Pokemon. Hollow Knight meanwhile, similar to Undertale, is definitely not a game you want spoiled in majority of context, Silksong pretty much too. Rain World, on the other hand, is what I find a very interesting experience: on one end, it's better you enter in blind because it's an experience trying to survive in that enviorment; on the other end looking up some walkthroughs, asking for help and spoiling a bit about where to go and what you will find is something you can do because the game can be ruthless and you must learn on your own. I looked up control and movement walkthroughs as well as spoilt myself with the existence of characters and creatures, as well the entire playthrough of the hard difficulty, but that barely ruined the fun I had with the game because the game has so much that you are driven to replay it and replay it for the experience alone. I do not suggest spoiling yourself fully (especially the storyline), but I do encourage you if you want some help by spoiling yourself. So in few words, yeah, it's not just about the player but it's also what kind of game are you playing.
@NathanAndYair
@NathanAndYair Год назад
@@zoki4291 I completely agree.
@dopaminecloud
@dopaminecloud Год назад
Still very much not the same. One is asking a friend who is also playing the game. The other is asking a sea of anonymous all guaranteed to have the answer in intimate detail. It's the wiki. It's the walkthrough. It's the "I don't really want to play the game, I just want to beat it."
@NathanAndYair
@NathanAndYair Год назад
@@dopaminecloud yeah, but my point wasn’t that asking friends for help makes games more fun, my point was that people all have fun in different ways. Maybe someone has more fun playing a game just to beat it. Some people find ways to speed through games as quickly as possible so they can be at the top of a leaderboard. Fun is subjective. Who are we to judge a person for how they enjoy something? I do think that we can all agree though, the guy who asked about the second knight is just fucking stupid.
@godlyvex5543
@godlyvex5543 Год назад
there's a distinct difference between working through it with friends and consulting the omniscient internet about trivial problems you have at the start of the game, honestly it frustrates me a lot when I see stuff like this, I was hanging out in the binding of isaac discord server, and someone playing the game for the first time was in the chat asking what every single item did before picking it up... it made no sense to me. they refused to actually just play the damn game. and when I tell them they should just play it instead of asking everyone constantly, they act all butthurt as if I'm being a dick for telling them maybe they should play the video game instead of having everyone else play it for them.
@dogi46
@dogi46 Год назад
as someone who watches so much youtube its so fucking hard not to get spoilers like when i heard cuphead dlc is gonna come out soon i literally covered my eyes during the boss fight they showed i still clicked some random vid that showed that scene instantly
@caenir
@caenir Год назад
I use two methods to get around this. Remove every related video to a game I want to play from my watch history, and do the not interested thing, and use a separate guest account when I just want to view a trailer. It's really effective, unless you consider a tiny thumbnail that you see for half a second a massive spoiler
@spirit.ofthe.harvestmoon
@spirit.ofthe.harvestmoon Год назад
Do you have photographic memory or something? Because I watched those trailers and I can tell you that I barely remember 5% of what was shown. It's not like it's a game with a story that could be spoiled by bad trailer editing.
@dogi46
@dogi46 Год назад
@@spirit.ofthe.harvestmoon I not only avoiding the trailers I mean anything from it so any gameplay counts too
@spirit.ofthe.harvestmoon
@spirit.ofthe.harvestmoon Год назад
@@dogi46 I understood that gameplay was also being avoided(it's the thing Cuphead has to offer, after all). I just don't understand how the trailer of a gameplay could affect your blind playthrough)
@dogi46
@dogi46 Год назад
@@spirit.ofthe.harvestmoon it wouldn't, I just don't want even a frame spoiled because i loved the game a lot and the dlc is the only thing i was excited for compared to the other games announced
@nihili4196
@nihili4196 Месяц назад
4:07 "If you survived without being spoiled..." right as he shows, relatively light but still, spoilers in the footage
@hardyjoe4278
@hardyjoe4278 2 месяца назад
This reminds me of that part from MMBN5, where you need an eight password to get past a door, and the only hint comes with one man with a side eye smirk. Glad to know the number never changes when playing through multiple time.
@gunnar2785
@gunnar2785 Год назад
The way I notice I ruin game experiences is by wanting to do everything as efficient as possible. I spend more time looking things up than actually playing the game and learning it that way
@StewNWT
@StewNWT Год назад
yeah I've ruined most of Elden Ring for myself by doing this
@junior1388666
@junior1388666 Год назад
I've stopped watching speedruns bc of that. I would try to emulate some of the strats and exploits and ruin the game's intended difficulty.
@Shadowlief
@Shadowlief Год назад
I ruined fire emblem 3 houses with too much planning. I spent 30 hours on the game and I was barely half way through. It has gotten to the point where I try to look up nothing and just have fun rather than overanalyzing.
@ericgonzalez2946
@ericgonzalez2946 Год назад
This actually makes me enjoy games more. I like to optimize and spend my time and resources in game as efficient as possible
@coriandercastor9453
@coriandercastor9453 Год назад
Perusing build guides before playing is one thing. Having to have the META build that has been well treaded by others... well, I don't understand that mentality, but some people do it. 🤷‍♀
@jaketrost9709
@jaketrost9709 Год назад
Honestly, I love video games, and I agree that 90% of people should play this way on their own. However, I am a busy father of 5, and I love video games myself. Sometimes I like to enjoy the game on my own without spoilers, but then there are other times where I'm like, "there's no way I want to spend this much time on this game or ill forget about my family," so I look shit up. Don't feel ashamed for looking for all the best stuff and secrets. There are multiple ways to enjoy a game. Have some variety and enjoy the experience in any way you like.
@mapalozimba2107
@mapalozimba2107 7 месяцев назад
I hear you
@bruninjk
@bruninjk 7 месяцев назад
same, i´m 18 and currently working and going to university, you just can´t spend so much time on games anymore, there´ll be a moment you´ll be able to enjoy with no spoilers, however sometimes you gotta look stuff up
@OrinElliott
@OrinElliott 7 месяцев назад
5!?!?!?!?
@simonplumaj5542
@simonplumaj5542 6 месяцев назад
I don't understand. Why not pick a different game that would work better for someone who can't take the time so solve puzzles on his own? If you care so much about efficiency, why not go all the way and play something you'd enjoy more instead of prostrating yourself before GameFAQs?
@jaketrost9709
@jaketrost9709 6 месяцев назад
Not quite sure how to unpack this. Can't tell if you're agreeing with me or disagreeing. The reason I don't pick a different game is because I still enjoy these games. There really isn't one specific way to enjoy a game. And not everybody cares about solving every little puzzle on their own. It sounds like you do. And I do too, but with my life changes, like family(which is way more important than games to me), I tend to enjoy the game in any way that fits my lifestyle. It's not like playing the game this way is the most honorable way to play. Amongst other nerds and "hard core gamers" it might. But lets be honest, I have a massive life outside of games. I'll enjoy them my way :) @@simonplumaj5542
@jeffrey3066
@jeffrey3066 Год назад
Dude your music is really good. I literally listen to the lofi-beats video from where the end audio originates.
@icrashout
@icrashout 2 месяца назад
I've been playing all of my childhood games lately and I'm having a blast. It really made gaming fun for me again.
@tyrayentali7041
@tyrayentali7041 Год назад
To be fair, it's incredibly difficult to avoid spoilers from games unless you never type its name into your browser a single time. Often I just wanted to look up a nice soundtrack on RU-vid after hearing it in a game and immediately my feed gets swardmed with spoiler thumbnails everywhere, it's truly obnoxious. And even in the music video I always have to force myself not to read any comments because there will always be a spoiler.
@Alex-te7xj
@Alex-te7xj Год назад
This happens to me on a regular basis. I despise it
@imxyuu
@imxyuu Год назад
its not hard its so easy.
@advakart4208
@advakart4208 Год назад
i wanted to look up the edgerunners trailer, so i wrote "cyberpunk edgerunners" and before i could even write trailer the youtube autofill result was the death of a major character :/
@tyrayentali7041
@tyrayentali7041 Год назад
@@advakart4208 Yes, that too.
@NobleLaika
@NobleLaika Год назад
@@advakart4208 thats the worst feeling ever.
@YorkJonhson
@YorkJonhson Год назад
I think there's a balance to be had. I'll try my damnedest to go into a game blind and explore the world and solve puzzles with fresh eyes, especially if there's a heavy narrative focus I don't want to spoil, but with the limited amount of time for games I sometimes find myself with, there are instances where I'm just going to swallow my pride if it means that looking up a quick answer means I save myself the effort of backtracking through the entire game world combing every nook and cranny for the one hidden key item I somehow missed thirty hours back. Solving things on your own is obviously the ideal, but there are always going to be games with the occasional bullshit solution.
@owen551
@owen551 Год назад
Yeah. There is a balance. There are not enough clues in Hollow Knight to know about the hive or the white palace without looking it up on the internet IMO. Which is a shame, because someone exploring the Hollow Knight wiki will have a lot of the game spoiled for them.
@beenisweenisiii3825
@beenisweenisiii3825 Год назад
@@owen551 The hive is fair enough, but I think the White Palace is definitely understandable. Most players will end up working through the Seer quests as they gather more essence, and remembering the corpse of the kingsmould having a barrier around it isn't too much of a stretch. I can definitely see why some would miss it, but I think there's just enough for the majority of people to catch on.
@knowledgeacquirer2931
@knowledgeacquirer2931 Год назад
@@owen551 Huh? Does the collector's map not show the grubs there?
@_maestro7168
@_maestro7168 Год назад
​@@knowledgeacquirer2931 True, but that one peak into the hive with one of the grubs is the only real indication it even exists tbh. A single random breakable wall across some spikes and below the hive, is still really difficult to find.
@loganxavier
@loganxavier Год назад
@@_maestro7168 there are like 4 entrances from the tram pass to the hive
@Dappis
@Dappis 2 месяца назад
It's kinda sad that a lot of modern game designers want to rid any possibility of "getting stuck" in their games, the indie scene still understands that that's one of the key things that makes gaming wonderful but a lot of AAA producers just want to make interactive movies it seems.
@shneancy220
@shneancy220 Год назад
I only luck up answers to puzzles when I reach the point where the frustration I'm feeling outweighs the satisfaction I'd get from solving it myself
@Kaloffee
@Kaloffee Год назад
Honestly, the reason why a lot of times I look up how to do certain things in games is my fear of missing out. I’m so afraid of everyone else enjoying an experience that I completely missed out on because I decided to skip something or take a different path. FOMO controls my life
@petervilla5221
@petervilla5221 Год назад
spending less time on social media is usually helpful for that. Cant experience fomo if you are ignorant of the things you missed out on.
@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853
I feel you on this, it's ruined far too many classic games I think I'd otherwise be able to properly appreciate - partly due to permanently missable content in games like Final Fantasy 7. So recently, I played one of these older games I'd yet to beat because of this, Vandal Hearts (great game, though unfortunately and unrightly not listed on the Playstation Store). This time, though, I went after secrets I'd remembered, but elected to not look anything else up about the game. So I enjoyed the ride, saw how the game ended, and it was beautiful; ended up being worth it. The advice I have for you is to just not give a crap about other people's experiences with games and just find your own path, because what a good game gives you shouldn't rely on what other people enjoyed about it. If you like the game enough that you'll want to play it again some other time, _then_ try and find stuff you didn't know about - maybe even keep a notebook or something if you're a completionist, so you can note down stuff you don't want to miss next time.
@wilsonarenas7583
@wilsonarenas7583 Год назад
Do you realize that you may not have the same experience as the people who discovered it on their own? Just play, if you miss something nothing happens, but if you grab a guide you already ruined the ENTIRE game
@petervilla5221
@petervilla5221 Год назад
@@wilsonarenas7583 i wouldnt put it like that. Playing a game with a guide is a DIFFERENT experience than playing it blind. Neither is inherently worse than the other.
@TheJohnreeves
@TheJohnreeves Год назад
You have to embrace that you can't be a completionist in life. This is an existential thing. Get over it.
@heroclix0rz
@heroclix0rz Год назад
I played hollow knight at the same time as a coworker, and we would talk about our experiences together at work. It was the closest experience I had to pre-internet 90s gaming since...well the 90s. Highly recommend.
@alxsytb
@alxsytb 3 месяца назад
thats why my brother and i have a deal where if one of us gets stuck in a video game, and really cannot see a way out, the other looks up the solution and gives hints, starting at really small hints, on how to continue
@ZorroVulpes
@ZorroVulpes 25 дней назад
People can play games however they want, even in ways you don't like.
@TimotheosFraser
@TimotheosFraser Год назад
Story time: I used to think the Ori games were the absolute pinnacle of story-driven gaming. Nothing could top them. I actually experienced a sense of withdrawal after completing Will of the Wisps because I thought it was the most beautiful thing to ever experience. (and it still is a very beautiful game). But then I played Hollow Knight, and after achieving the True Ending, I feel SO grown up now! The game does not hold your hand at all once you go down that well. And I had to dig and discover the story that was in there. Very cool. Food tends to taste better after you put in some work for it.
@TheStellarJay
@TheStellarJay Год назад
"Food tastes better after you put a little work into it" couldn't have said it better myself
@obsidianking621
@obsidianking621 Год назад
Bro, this is exactly how my experience went. I loved the ori games, had hollow knight in my wishlist, finally got it. Now I'm addicted to it, and attempting speedruns. Hollow knight is best!
@treddox5880
@treddox5880 Год назад
I had the same experience, but I still prefer Ori over Hollow Knight. Hollow Knight slaps though.
@toastertheprotogen118
@toastertheprotogen118 Год назад
Yes. Just, yes.
@Azure9577
@Azure9577 Год назад
I might sound rude but for me No jrpg can top the legend of heroes trails series And I am not talking about just story This franchise is peak jrpg
@lilian1812
@lilian1812 Год назад
I personally hate being stuck in video games. I don't mind at all struggling on puzzles, I'm a big fan of Zelda, portal,etc. But I hate those moments where you're stuck bc you don't know what you have to do next and your goal becomes just looking arround randomly. This is where I usually go on internet. One other thing that is fun. Try playing a challenging game with your friends at the same time. Helping each other is so fun. Even though you're given so much answers it's fun to cooperate in an un direct way.
@hastur2905
@hastur2905 Год назад
Yeah, Fran Bow is cool but suffers so much from this
@chanmandeath2993
@chanmandeath2993 Год назад
Looking at you Fallout 4 Railroad quest, and Skyrim Barenziah stones quest. I'm fine with no quest markers. Hell I'd disable the entire UI if I could for Skyrim sometimes, just to have more immersive fun. But my god when a game gives you quest markers for EVERYTHING. And then for this One quest that's like "oh ya know, find it." Like AGH. It makes me so mad because if you're not well versed in Boston and history, or are playing Skyrim and don't want to trek back and forth for 3 hours looking over every spot you could've missed a stone, you tend to get frustrated. just my opinion though, fuck no quest markers Sometimes.
@smegspreader
@smegspreader Год назад
Hollow knight or similar games arent for you then. Theres millions of other games to play that are more your speed.
@cazer8082
@cazer8082 Год назад
@@smegspreader shut up please
@KingsizeKini
@KingsizeKini Год назад
@@smegspreader no it's for everyone who wants to play it and if they want to look stuff up, that's 100% okay. Gatekeeping is worthless.
@scottrill8318
@scottrill8318 5 дней назад
I was happily surprised to hear toe playing in a youtube video, it's actually the only time I've heard toe on a (unrelated) piece of media.
@iloveloonaandiforeverwill6494
@iloveloonaandiforeverwill6494 2 месяца назад
Its kind of a tough situation where if I watch videos I would spoil it for myself, but if I don't I wouldn't have wanted to play it in the first place
@shrekwizowskee2910
@shrekwizowskee2910 Год назад
no joke, this is what made me not spoil the entirety of Hollow knight for myself. Its the first game that I've ever played without spoiling the entire plot for myself, and I am loving it. still playing it, in fact. its so surprising just how much stuff there is in this game!
@mushr--m
@mushr--m Год назад
it's such a beautiful game
@sleeplessomniman5204
@sleeplessomniman5204 Год назад
Got stuck and couldn't even find where to keep exploring so I dropped the game. I'm not a kid anymore so I don't have time to waste hours trying to progress in a game with purposefully confusing exploration anymore. The people with the patience to look up what to do probably had a better time than me. Dont know why the guy uploading the video thinks you should waste time figuring out how to experience the game.
@LOLxDroflFOF
@LOLxDroflFOF Год назад
@@sleeplessomniman5204 look I don't want to be mean but if you haven't progressed decently far into the game (as in gotten the first ending at least) and you can't figure out where you can continue exploring in 10 to 20 mins MAX you have to be pretty fucking stupid ngl.
@s8n..
@s8n.. Год назад
@@sleeplessomniman5204 maybe try out tetris, sounds like it would be your jam - pretty straightforward!
@sleeplessomniman5204
@sleeplessomniman5204 Год назад
@@s8n.. I feel like you think I'm saying the game is bad. I'm just saying that its not accessible to people that don't play games like that. And while I've never looked into it, now that I can see that other people have had the same problem it makes me more sure of my assessment of the game.
@empanada65
@empanada65 Год назад
The way people have been reacting about tears of the kingdom is insane too. Literally hours after the title drop, people were making and releasing videos about tips and tricks, lore, and everything else they could with tears of the kingdom in the title like the game itself was released and I never felt more fury for a community I was a part of
@Diphenhydra
@Diphenhydra Год назад
Stuff like that is what ruined CoD zombies for me (and the lead director leaving while Activision was doing Activision things). When I finished the WaW campaign with my cousin in 2008 and we got dropped into zombies it was a magical moment. Not knowing what to do, the slow build up of zombies (that does make it hard to go back to now). And every game kept expanding on that. Load into a new map without knowing anything and just figure it out. They were good at adding more mechanics and every map was more fun than the last while slowly building up this story. Use the environment and world building to solve the puzzles and survive. Once Black Ops 3 came around, there was a dedicated community and all of a sudden every dlc map that came out was completely solved and everything about it discovered by the end of the week, I think in one case it took 12 hours. It was fun to be a part of a large community all trying to discover things but waiting 2-3 months just to spend less than a week playing each dlc eventually wasn’t fun. I don’t want every map to just be “look up the 30 minute guide.” And I think the mentality of just watching the RU-vidrs solve everything in a day (in some cases they got early access to dlc) kinda ruined my enjoyment going forward. I bought WWII and it was such a breath of fresh air to have hints in game but you didn’t need to go to RU-vid. Cold War was similar, it never felt like I needed to go to RU-vid and I could just figure it out slowly with my friends by putting our brains together. Keep in mind, I did enjoy black ops 3 a lot, to the point that it’s one of my favourite cod games even though I’ve been around since 2008, but my love for zombies did not continue into black ops 4. I didn’t want that same experience. I just want to play a game, occasionally look something up if I’m brain dead or the developers made a bad puzzle (Uncharted 3 light room), but mostly just experience it without the help of others.
@empanada65
@empanada65 Год назад
@tph_dragon🐁 that's infuriating too, but my main issue is that all we've gotten is the title drop at this point. No game. There is no game yet. The game has yet to be sold, and people are already acting like it's been released and releasing tips, tricks, lore, etc, for a game that they don't have access to. They are essentially lying all for the sake of getting that sweet, sweet youtube money by milking as much of it out of the title drop as they can. The only ones I forgive are the trailer analysis videos because that's content made from content avaliable, but imagine you never heard about the game until you saw one of these "tears of the kingdom tips" videos and then looked up the game only to find out that its not even released. I'm just disappointed in how many people in the Zelda community are willing to, essentially, lie and pretend that they're in the know to the rest of the community all for the youtube cash.
@stealthbonus
@stealthbonus Год назад
I am intentionally avoiding any media around that game for the very reason stated in the video. When I first played BOTW, I was amazed and had so much fun discovering its world. I really want to do it again for Tears of the Kingdom.
@staciefreshener4032
@staciefreshener4032 Год назад
I dont think it's bad ; it's simple you don't see those videos . No matter how infuriating it is . Don't look up the guides to spoil for yourself but I disagree with the game tips being available is a issue. It is a divisable opinion but that's it.
@cavemann_
@cavemann_ Год назад
I like theorycrafting before the game releases, really makes me feel like a part of something bigger.
@Omnidragon00
@Omnidragon00 5 месяцев назад
Despite agreeing with this argument, I will add one defense: Sometimes looking things up after spending a lot of time on your own is very beneficial. When I'm tired of looking for that collectible even though I searched every corner three times, it helps to watch a video to save time and move on. Also guides can be helpful if you use them the right way. Often times, I'm stuck because I can't creatively connect two techniques together. But after watching someone do it, it opens up a whole new way to play for me because I now know I can use this combo for future situations.
@peezieforestem5078
@peezieforestem5078 Год назад
If the merit of experience is determined by surprise, it's not worth very much. It is like jump scares in horror games - they are cheap. Likewise, people may complain: "why are you googling jump scares in a horror game? You're ruining the experience for yourself." No. I'm looking for atmospheric horror, not jump scares, and you don't get to tell me what ruins the experience for me. True masterpiece is something you appreciate MORE after you understand it, not less. Think about it.
@voidnoidoid
@voidnoidoid Год назад
The only time I’ll ever look up a guide is when I am truly utterly and completely stuck
@sandervandeneynden253
@sandervandeneynden253 Год назад
love how most replayed bit is the part where he lists all the good games you should play
@erdemyilmaz6172
@erdemyilmaz6172 10 месяцев назад
recently played through celeste and i really appreciated the celeste music you had in the background, that stuff is some of the best game music i've ever heard
@mumenrider9406
@mumenrider9406 8 месяцев назад
Play the game however you want. I looked up areas here and there and probably would have been bored otherwise. I went into the game looking for boss fights after S tiering cuphead. That's what I got and I particularly enjoyed it, except pantheon of hallownest.
@darthTwin6
@darthTwin6 Год назад
Personally, I agree with this for myself and pride myself on doing things myself in games from puzzles to combat. However, I do not hold others to this same standard. Additionally, after I’ve finished a run through of the game, savoring the experience, I typically further immerse myself then after by looking stuff up. I know at that point, I’m immune to spoilers, so it’s a fun thing to do
@twiddle10000
@twiddle10000 Год назад
I only look things up when I’m finished with a game but still don’t understand what happened (Hollow Knight lore, Undertale’s endings, Rogue Legacy and Rogue Legacy 2’s unique story basis, etc.) or when I’m incredibly stuck on a single stupid puzzle (oh my lord are some of Ocarina of Time’s puzzles difficult).
@awesomehazimex7410
@awesomehazimex7410 Год назад
imo the best way to approach these kind of problems, the devs dind't expect you to 100% the game first try anyways and there's always that one puzzle that took you a week to solve so you had to look it up (but doing it on your own feels more satisfying tho)
@marino1805
@marino1805 Год назад
Yeah, i finished hollow knight with like 94% completion (1st ending). So i really would have to now go through the whole map, checking every single wall for a secret room to find the extra hidden stuff. I didnt do that, i "spoiled" myself the location of those 4 or so rooms. Also i somehow missed one of the simple keys in an area i already revealed. Finding the key with no help would take even more time.
@facebookuser1653
@facebookuser1653 Год назад
After dying several times at Pantheon of Sage I just gave up and went to youtube to see the godhome ending
@theunadulteratedpretzel
@theunadulteratedpretzel Год назад
hollow knight is the kinda game you cant ruin for yourself because of how much there is outside of important bits you see alot like godhome or the dreamnail, theres still the entire waterways and the fog canyon that go unmentioned
@dinkidink5912
@dinkidink5912 7 месяцев назад
Definitely agree, I'm in my 40's and when I first started playing video games you either figured stuff out for yourself or if you were lucky you had a friend who might be able to help you out. It was quite a while ago now but when I played Dark Souls I fell into the trap of constantly looking up stuff online, late last year I started Sekiro and made a point of figuring out things for myself, I beat every single boss on my own, I only watched boss guides after I'd beaten them to see what tactics other people used. I did spoil bits and pieces because I was so into the game I couldn't help myself but to check out youtube or online content here or there, but I kept it to a bare minimum.
@gearsbright4599
@gearsbright4599 2 месяца назад
I think that to each their own. There are instances when spoilers doesn't matter that much or even more: When you know before hand that something is going to happen it will be all about how that exact thing is going to happen, what leads to that certain point, and so on. But in some cases when all the fun is in finding out stuff like in Zelda: TOTK, Outer Wilds, Twelwe Minutes, and some other games like that, it is all about finding out yourself, the fun CAN be ruined. Then again, some parts of an older Zelda games is so hard to figure out it becomes just frustrating and can simply make you waste hours trying to figure out stuff and never make it.
@gregchimpinson
@gregchimpinson Год назад
I so wish I could play hollow knight through blind so I could experience the *final boss* without having it been spoiled for myself
@geniuscarrot6021
@geniuscarrot6021 Год назад
The buildup to Nosk I will never forget, I remember how oblivious I was thinking "ah this couldnt be a threat in any way, shape or form" but the sheer FEAR I felt as soon as he started to break and twitch his body transforming I will never forget. I just feel bad for people that spoil the game for themselves, especially Nosk.
@LukeMan2015
@LukeMan2015 Год назад
Great video my dude, you got my self-guidlines for how much I see before plating a game down to a tee. That being said, it blows my mind you made this video without mentioning Outer Wilds though, every single person I've gotten to play it agrees it's the best game ever, hope you enjoy! Also, it was cool to see someone with a similar style to my favorite videos of mine but you did it in an easier to produce size. Anywho, thx, God bless❤️
@Harvester88
@Harvester88 9 месяцев назад
First video I’ve ever seen from you. This was awesome and hilarious 😂.
@Phirestar
@Phirestar Год назад
Pro-tip for _all_ video game obstacles (as well as real life, really): if what you’re doing is not producing the results you’re looking for, try something else. Chances are you’ll find yourself getting closer to the answer, or, at the very least, you won’t feel like you’re stuck standing there until you can think up the solution by sheer chance. That will help alleviate the sensation that the game is “wasting your time”, as people like to describe it.
@MisterIncog
@MisterIncog Год назад
Good luck figuring out how to spare toriel with that kind of strategy
@tartipouss
@tartipouss Год назад
@@MisterIncog Clever comment
@tartipouss
@tartipouss Год назад
"Did I ever tell you, what the defenition of insanity was ?"
@MisterIncog
@MisterIncog Год назад
@@tartipouss and I’m pretty sure it’s not the only place in the entire gaming where the expected and unobvious strategy is some form of “keep doing what you do until you get a result”
@andrasfogarasi5014
@andrasfogarasi5014 Год назад
​@@MisterIncog There are two hints in the game which may help. Hint 1: There is a single Froggit in the ruins who tells you that you may need to one day spare a monster whose name is not yellow or pink. This hint is somewhat obscure and easy to miss. Hint 2: If Toriel has been killed in a previous run, any attempt at talking to her after the first time results in the narrator quote "Can you show mercy without fighting or running away...?". This hint is not easy to miss. A player fighting Toriel after having killed her is obviously going to be looking for a way to spare her, as there is no other reason to replay the fight. The only option they have besides fighting is talking. And talking shows this hint. If the player tries to talk repeatedly, the hint is shown repeatedly. You would have to have an exceptionally thick skull for you not to get that you're supposed to spare her.
@demispectra9783
@demispectra9783 Год назад
alresdy at the first minute understood what its about. I tend to do that too but when I got my hands on neon white I said to myself "this time you will NOT be using the internet" and oh my god figuring out how to get to the presents or how to most efficiently end the level was ths most satisfying thing I felt in a long time
@dunsparcetv9036
@dunsparcetv9036 Год назад
I personally really try to not use a guide too. If there is one which I have no idea of solving then I search up the area and look for a walkthrough so I don’t know how many parts are still left, but in my opinion a not spoiled game makes the best experience you could have. I went in portal 2 blind and it was amazing discovering the puzzles by myself and the story.
@noname-xk6pv
@noname-xk6pv Год назад
I actually really like the outer wilds community for that. I only looked up stuff on it after having completed the game but most of the answers to questions were along the lines of « it’s ok if you can’t solve that puzzle right now, maybe you’re missing a piece. » and then offering pointers of directions the player could try exploring deeper.
@chibimaster7819
@chibimaster7819 Год назад
Ohhh yeah those are good pointers. I think players sometimes worry they're doing something wrong too quickly, so this reassures them they're on the right track and need to give it a few more tries
@peterpeladon
@peterpeladon Год назад
The Outer Wilds community is one of the greatest for understanding how not to spoil
@quemuraa
@quemuraa 10 месяцев назад
​@@peterpeladoni mean, if you spoil that game, It will become just a bad game
@bananatheo3796
@bananatheo3796 8 месяцев назад
@@quemuraa I don't think it's even a game. Just a flight simulator with text all over the place pretty much.
@ArtistikTrash
@ArtistikTrash 8 месяцев назад
​@@bananatheo3796bro hasn't played outer wilds 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@mazda9624
@mazda9624 Год назад
Breath of the Wild was the game that taught me just how much looking stuff up can ruin a gaming experience. I went into the game completely blind and I only bought it because it was one of like 3 games on Switch at launch. Figuring out the puzzles and simply exploring the world all on my own made it feel like *I* was presonally discovering all of this stuff. If I couldn't figure something out, I'd go exploring in the area or talk to nearby NPCs to see if they could clue me in. It felt super immersive to try and figure things out using only the tools presented to me within the game world itself. It was so cool the first time I realized I could equip the flame sword to keep myself warm in the cold regions instead of eating the peppers. I never looked anything up for that game and ended up having one of my greatest gaming experiences of all time as a result. All of my friends played the game by looking everything up the second something became difficult, and while I'm sure they enjoyed the game very much, I feel like they really soured their own experience as a result.
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB Год назад
Yeah sometimes the best advice for a piece of media is to never look it up. Same with The Good Place which is a show. I initially didn’t wanna watch it but heard it’s good, just DON’T read anything about it. They were right, it was amazing.
@Maty2402
@Maty2402 Год назад
The only thing I have searched for un botw aré the koroks because I'm not gonna check every single spot in the game until I get them all
@ahmeda4792
@ahmeda4792 Год назад
Definitely amazing. I played botw when it launched knowing nothing about Zelda and it was peak. The funnest thing is I even didn't know how to use the mission locater on the map and I spent so many hours searching for the Divine Beast locations.
@tubax926
@tubax926 Год назад
the only things i searched up in that game were 3 things: location of the last 2 great fairy fountains (cuz fk that lol), and ways to farm arrows. i’m really glad i searched up the second thing, because it led me to doing the tarrey town quest (i also used a guide for that quest, cuz i knew there was gonna be so much backtracking and i didn’t wanna bother - that’s my 3rd search). botw is one of the best games i’ve ever played. waiting for a discount or smth for totk lol
@inadover
@inadover Год назад
For me the game that made me realise that spoiling myself was not a good idea is Dark Souls. Not that I checked for guides or ask questions, but after playing DS3 (yeah, I played that one first) I read and watched a shit ton of Dark Souls lore to the point where Dark Souls 1 wasn't really new for me, which sucks because I regret doing that to this day.
@NamelessEntity067
@NamelessEntity067 23 дня назад
This reminds me of how I accidentally spoilt who the murderer in Cemetery Mary was because I was looking at the wikis of my favourite characters and saw it in the alias section. Luckily, that only part of the game’s mystery.
@PGerman.
@PGerman. 10 месяцев назад
I do have to agree, especially recently. I got rainworld because a couple years back I heard it had fun movement. So after na hour of playing I decided to look up some tech "It's just some tech, it makes everything more fun to zoom around!" I told myself. And while I was on the wiki I saw some minor spoilers, nothing big. Later I was stuck in Outskirts for a while can't remember why exactly, but I decided to look for a map on the wiki. And then I started reading the trivia section while scrolling down to the map section. And it continued on and on. I read more and more. I go to a new area and decide to just look up for a youtube video to watch in the background because I play on switch handheld. so since I am so happy about this game and have fun, I check the first part or two of an let's play. and eventually I get spoiled more and more about me just wanting to consume as much as quickly as possible. I had an overall great time with the game, got the dlc (spoiled a lot too) and was finished with most content after 2 weeks. I could have had more fun for months probably if I just stayed away from the wiki and from youtube, I don't know why I do this to me.
@elledotcom4437
@elledotcom4437 Год назад
A recent incident of this exact thing that irritated me to NO end was right after Elden Ring was released, and still probably to this day people leave the opening area and just get brain damage, because they don't understand the concept of just seeing something and deciding to check it out. Like, twitter, reddit, forums were filled with people not only confused, but saying the game was straight up bad because it didn't immediately tell you what to do with a bright shining beacon
@canthyria7729
@canthyria7729 Год назад
In a game with LITERAL bright shining beacons at every checkpoint.
@thebulbamachine4789
@thebulbamachine4789 Год назад
I wanted to fight every hollow knight boss in my first playthrough so i looked up their locations. I dont really care about spoilers in games like these, i just wanted to fight every boss. Still my favorite game of all time though. I honestly think without the internet i would have stopped playing this amazing game because i am probably the worst person on earth with directions.
@NosferatuMonty776
@NosferatuMonty776 Год назад
same! I usually like to try stuff until things aren't fun and then try and get help looking up things. I feel like it really is just a different way to experience games. Then again I'm someone who's pretty chill about spoilers, I try to avoid them but I feel like experiencing something with knowledge of a spoiler beforehand can sometimes enhance an experience
@dannyjenkins1408
@dannyjenkins1408 Год назад
You kind of need to explore everything anyway though and you have a map, dont know how you would get lost.
@reddytoplay9188
@reddytoplay9188 Год назад
He just said the reason...
@firsa8824
@firsa8824 Год назад
but you don't need any sense of direction, you can always check the map every seconds and just go to random unlocked map
@showbizstudios655
@showbizstudios655 5 месяцев назад
I mentally weigh the amount of frustration I am currently facing at a puzzle/obstacle vs the lack of accomplishment I will feel by looking an answer up, and look for an answer online once the frustration exceeds the latter. Just stepping away from the game and coming back later with a cleared head is a better solution, but I have a hard time leaving something like that unsolved, even if just temporarily. I’m sure that’s a common feeling.
@Hawkborat
@Hawkborat 2 месяца назад
My first reaction to not knowing something in a game is to spam every button possible and try everything I can think of. I will never understand how people will get very slightly held back and just go "Welp, time to look it up!" I only look something up if I legitimately cannot figure it out and have tried (what I think is) everything I can. There have been so many times where I was playing an online game and saw people spam in the chat saying "How do you play? How does this work? What do I do?" Not even understanding the most basic of basic things, THINGS THAT THE GAME ITSELF TEACHES THEM THROUGH A TUTORIAL THEY ARE PROBABLY CURRENTLY IN.
@underdrow5572
@underdrow5572 Год назад
I remember when I was playing Hollow Knight, I did get a few things (specifically bosses) spoiled for me. But when my friend was playing Hollow Knight at my house, I was guiding him through the game, but also spoiling nothing, and he never looked anything up for himself. He said that having someone guide him through the game while having nothing spoiled was probly the best experience he could've had.
@ashleyb3527
@ashleyb3527 Год назад
I really think hollow knight is a game that is super easy to get stuck on. Yes it's not ideal to have to look something up, but without someone to walk you through it sometimes you have to. I've literally done the same thing where I sit with my friend / bf and just watch them and maybe gently nudge them. Like yeah it's probably cooler to just be amazing at the game or suck until u get better but if you barely missed a bench right before a fight it might be nice to have someone help to keep that from happening.
@theftking
@theftking Год назад
I agree with you fundamentally that games are best enjoyed without assistance, and that seeking assistance should really be reserved for when you're very frustrated. However, on the other hand... I can't help but feel like everyone has a right to enjoy a video game however they want. If someone wants to play a game from start to finish with a walkthrough, who am I to tell them that that's wrong?
@F.M671
@F.M671 Год назад
Because after people play through the game whilst being assisted at all times ,their opinion might differ from the one they would have if they played without assistance. You don't go watch a horror movie just to get a spreadsheet off a web with jumpscare times. That in turn affects what video game producers create. If you wanna cater to a spreadsheet-hold-my-hand-daddy you will create a different, possibly more boring game rather than creating a game designed with playing it with no assistance in mind. People also often think less about the things they understand and more of themselvs the more experienced they are. I m sure you know the Dunning-Krueger effect. Such people when faced with reality for example, encountering a hard boss will experience a lot of frustration, lots more than the standard player possibly. I personally tried playing through HK without assistance although I had to look up a few things up on the wiki but that was near the end game anyway. PS: Love your content.
@TheStellarJay
@TheStellarJay Год назад
I should have been more clear in the video because I gotten like 3 comments like this now. It wasn't my intention to tell anyone how to play games or come off as upset or degrading people who do use guides. I just wanted to express that I think it's more fun if you don't do that. :)
@kara-mari9909
@kara-mari9909 Год назад
It might be their choice but it's a super totally lame one
@fryingpanda9103
@fryingpanda9103 Год назад
@@F.M671 I tried to play elden ring without any guides. But there comes a point a little less than half way through the game (spoilers) that you need to find two halves of a medallion. Fromsoft games are notorious for being very conservative with hints. Sometimes it works, but sometimes entire quest lines have to be abandoned because the NPC changes to a completely new location on a massive map So I had to find these 2 medallions. After days of searching the map, I decided to quit for a few months. Getting tired of going through forts and caves only to find a magic wand or a useless talisman. Was I missing something? A clue? Did someone explain where they were but I zoned out? I've talked to every npc in the hold, but no luck. So I looked it up. They're in 2 random forts at opposite sides of the map. No clues. Just 2 tiny forts carrying items essential to progress. After this I started to get more liberal with my internet usage. It started with looking up some smithing stones, maybe a weapon teirlist, but by the time I got to the final boss, I created a build specifically to hunt him down. This forced me to go on a scavenger hunt of quest lines I could never find on my own. And I ended up exploring and enjoying more of the game than I ever could have blind. If I had decided not to look anything up, I would've quit long before I beat the game.
@averagetboihater8357
@averagetboihater8357 Год назад
@@F.M671 nah
@xyrkzes
@xyrkzes 2 месяца назад
If I’m stuck on something where I literally cannot progress for like 15 mins, I look it up. But I only read until I see what the next immediate thing to do is, and then close the article and keep playing. I don’t remember ever getting spoilers from doing it like this, and it helps avoid the frustration of not being able to complete a puzzle I’ve been stuck on for 15-20 mins.
@darryllmaybe3881
@darryllmaybe3881 10 месяцев назад
But I don't wanna experience the game... I wanna watch someone else experience it and then vicariously experience it through them because I don't like having to experience all the boring parts in-between the cool parts in a game, I just want the cool parts. And watching a video lets me skip the boring parts. You may think I'm making a joke, and I kinda am, but I actually do this. I don't know why, but I don't really like playing video games, I just like watching all the cool parts. I know everything there is about Undertale, but I've never played it myself. I do this with some tv shows too, like the owl house. I know a lot of owl house lore, and I've seen all the main story-line episodes, but I haven't actually sat down and watched the whole show. I don't know why I do this, it's just how I enjoy media. With some certain shows or games, I somehow "ruined" them for myself by trying to experience it the normal way, which was too boring for me, even though I overall liked the story, I end up not caring because the experience of the game itself bored me too much. Yeah, I'm weird, feel free to think that, but this is just how I am. I can't play a game if the story is all I care about, I'd rather just watch a summary because the game can ruin the story for me. Inscryption is the one exception because on top of having an amazing story, the gameplay loop itself was super fun, so I got a fun game sometimes interrupted by cool story, but for some reason, most of the time... I just don't find story based games all that fun... Which usually leaves me only playing games that have next to no story because the game's only selling point is the game play, even though I care more about games that DO have a good story. Games with stories are the only one's that leave a lasting impression on me, but games without them are the only ones I enjoy playing. Quite the contradiction I live. Also, if you read this whole thing... Why? This is just me rambling about my extremely weird experience playing games, I don't actually expect people to read it.
@Lexyvil
@Lexyvil Год назад
As someone who grew up in the early 90s playing cryptic video games, I wasn't aware that there were a lot of modern gamers who happen to give up so easily when the game is made to have you go figure things out, knowing that's how it was designed.
@RED_XLR
@RED_XLR Год назад
Yep zoomers. "Just google it" is in their life blood. They'll learn eventually tho.
@cotton3399
@cotton3399 Год назад
Sometimes I spend an hour or two looking and just decide I don’t really want to spend the time on it and get on with my day and search that one little thing up. It’s not that serious.
@Xeno_Solarus
@Xeno_Solarus Год назад
@@cotton3399 Yeah. Especially if you're not one for puzzles.
@switchblade6
@switchblade6 Год назад
I buy games for combat, not puzzles most of the time. Usually I can figure it out on my own but my patience runs very thin so I don't bother for too long if I can't figure it out. I don't see how that a bad thing.
@billybobbobson3797
@billybobbobson3797 Год назад
@@switchblade6 then don't buy puzzle games. You guys are literally sad
@Londe_e
@Londe_e Год назад
3:18 THIS THIS FREAKING TWILIGHT PRINCESS PUZZLE. Years of my life as a child spent trying to figure it out and spending what felt like hours being frusstrated. When I was lucky I would get my older brother to do it for me, but then he moved out. It was one of my most rewarding experinces finally putting those two goddamn statues in the right spot and whenever I find myself replaying this game, I enjoy figuring it out. I love moments like that.
@nozomechanm5169
@nozomechanm5169 Год назад
And then there’s me , I looked up the answer the first time I played Twilight Princess and I looked up the answer every time I’ve played that game since then.
@thatoneguy6315
@thatoneguy6315 Год назад
really? can no one figure stuff out on their own
@hasooyoung3939
@hasooyoung3939 9 месяцев назад
i learned the hard way if i dont spoil the game for myself, i'll eventually give up trying to figure it out let me spoil the game for myself if i want to 🙏
@KwikBR
@KwikBR 9 месяцев назад
Weak.
@hasooyoung3939
@hasooyoung3939 9 месяцев назад
@@KwikBR and what about it? 🤨
@DuckGoesViral
@DuckGoesViral 10 месяцев назад
I totally agree, somehow i had never come across any spoilers for the portals games and recently playing through both of them completely blind without looking anything up was super fun, i would recommend.
@whitefang2312
@whitefang2312 Год назад
As someone who worked out of this habit, I agree 100%. I've ruined so many games for myself because I got too anxious and just asked for help. I'm slowly working out of that habit and just playing a game on my own to get the full experience. I only look it up if it's required for the story to progress and I'm stumped
@Beeftitan
@Beeftitan Год назад
How do you know if it's required to the story before you look it up?
@jacob-2271
@jacob-2271 Год назад
@@Beeftitan probably just an educated guess based on prior experiences with games
@danielrhouck
@danielrhouck Год назад
I agree looking up answers is usually bad, but sometimes being able to get *hints* is good. Especially for some of your examples, where just knowing “not a glitch” would be good. Because glitches *happen.* My first playthrough of the original Portal, my graphics settings were messed up somehow, and all the glass looked opaque. It’s surprisingly easy to play a lot of the game that way, not realize it’s not supposed to have frosted glass, and miss important parts of the experience.
@peterpeladon
@peterpeladon Год назад
It's true, that would be ideal. Reddit's the wrong place to get "not a glitch" as an answer, unfortunately.
@whatamidoing5683
@whatamidoing5683 10 месяцев назад
This is why the best thing you can do is have a friend who has also played through to sort of guide you honestly. I know it’s not always achievable but it sure does help sometimes
@bruhmoment1835
@bruhmoment1835 8 месяцев назад
We said cry about it and bro really cried about it
@Kixal07
@Kixal07 8 месяцев назад
huh? who cried im confused
@TheDarksharcoux
@TheDarksharcoux 10 месяцев назад
For me the culprit is that many games hide stuff that are not available except at some specific point of the game, and they don't tell the player when. So, sometimes, you just want to know if you need to wait for later or if you should try to figure something out. This a problem of poor level design that is sometimes supposed to be compensated by playing the game a second time, which, for me, is out of question. This is just a huge time loss.
@niemand7811
@niemand7811 10 месяцев назад
Typical "instant cratification syndrome". You see something and want it right away without understanding the game and why you can not have the object on the go. Modern casual gamer, huh?
@TheDarksharcoux
@TheDarksharcoux 10 месяцев назад
​@@niemand7811 I play games since 1996 and mostly J-RPG and indie games. The problem is not the fact that you can or can't have it right now. The problem is that the rules about what is doable and what is not, in many games, is not clear. If there is a secret to find or something to discover, I'll be very happy to spend some hours understanding the mechanics or exploring the world in order to solve it. But I saw too many games where you see something, think it's probably for later, and then are stuck, unable to go back there anymore unless you start a new game. And in other games, you see something, you can spend hours and hours trying to access it, and in the end, it was just for later. The problem is just the lack of rules and logic. Unless you are in the developer's minds, there is no way for you to know in which scenario you"re in. Of course, not all the games are like that, and I have no problem with games like Tunic, Outer Wilds or The Witness where you can go back any place at any moment. So you cannot really miss something. But many RPGs have this problem.
@thecoolestofthe834s2
@thecoolestofthe834s2 5 месяцев назад
@@niemand7811 yes because if oyu hand someone somthing go dont fuck with it they fuck with it unless there an npc like you
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