What is your current best for the 800m? What has been the biggest part of your success and roadblocks in breaking 2 minutes or have you already destroyed it? If so, I commend you cause it is not easy to do. Make sure to visit www.rundreamachieve.com and www.nutritiongeeks.com for all your training/racing and nutritional needs. Like, Share & Subscribe. Thanks for your support.
I've never been close to 2 min in the 800m. My best is 2.20.71 from when I was 15. I would like to break 2.20 at least. But I'm more tuned to the longer distances nowadays...
I hear ya swale. Last time I ran it was 1995! a Lonnnnngggg time ago but it was fun. Always respected the event and love watching the athletes dipping into the 1:40s-50s. Great job with that 2:20. That is NOT slow at all. Keep up the great work!
this year as a junior I ran 1:58.98. When you said you've got to be mentally tough you were absolutely right. Being in shape for it is a given, but being able to dog it out that last 300m as you said with no hesitation feels amazing when you are physically able to do it. I ran 58.5-60.4 for my splits that race, roughly a +2 positive split which works well for me. I've never really tried to negative split like a 62-56 which is something that would be interesting to experiment with. to all reading this, HIT is your friend for explosiveness, and definitely mix some endurance in with the training, granted cade Flatt ran only 9 mi/week in high school but everyone is a little bit different. Once you get to that 2:02-2:00 area, you know you can break 2. It's just a matter of it happening, which for most it will.
I was a sprinter and I moved to distance I really gained that aerobic ability running 45 miles a week and I’m on the brim, I am right at 2:03 I’m really hoping for the sub 2 right at that last 200m mark I feel my legs just get so heavy
THIS!! I'm a freshman who just broke 2:10 as of recently, so not nearly on your level, and my god the last 200, especially the curve before the 100m kick is awful
@@rundreamachieve do you know any 800m workouts. I started to do track again a month ago, 2 weeks ago i did 2.01 in 800m and today i did 2.03. I think it's bc like an idiot i am i was doing the same training as sprinters
@@jaym2208 repeat 1,000m, repeat 400s, ladder drills (2x1000k, 2x800m, 8x400m x 2) etc all work. GREAT job running the 2:01. Keep me posted on your progress. You are on your way to a 1:50.
So I can happily say I crushed the 2 Barrier. One thing people don’t realize is the 800 is a very aerobic race. I was doing very low mileage and trained more like a 400 runner and focused on speed more then volume and ran low 2’s but never past it. This year I built up my mileage and volume and was able to drop down to 1:57. Breaking 2 is toughest barrier and sometimes going backwards is forwards. I think the best thing for people to do would be to focus on building more mileage doing a lot of tempo and VO2 work. Speed wise you should learn how to run 56/57/58 400m comfortably.
@@cakej1 You did awesome and that is still a legit time at any age let alone masters level. We're fortunate in that we can still run fast even into our later years. Excited to see the athletes performing at the Olympics coming up. Keep up the great work. I routinely watch Dave Wottle's 800m gold medal from Munich, one of the all time best come from behind races. Perfectly timed.
@@rundreamachieve worked well after racing 3000 2 days before and 1500 day before 800. You would have been proud from 1500. I took lead from start going out in 35.5 first 200 and each 200 got faster until I got down to 31. 4:19 for the win. 800 was a bonus.
You have a VERY talented son. There are high school seniors still trying to run a. 2:07. Tell him I said congrats on the GREAT running and wishing him continued success
I’m a Junior and have a 2:22 right now. Haven’t been able to run the best with a leg injury but I am looking to get past 2:22 and maybe get low 2’s one day
Of course. It won't be easy but if you plan your pacing well (no faster than 63 seconds through first lap) and run a fast last 400m, 1:59 can be had. Keep up the great work. 2:11 is NOT slow.
Im gonna time trial on friday to see where I'm currently at but I'm at about 2:20 800m shape right now. I've set a goal to get as close to sub 2 as I can before leagues in May so that's about half a year to become a stronger faster more complete athlete. I already have gotten under 60s for a 400m a year ago so I know I can start to try and hit paces close to that in intervals. Hopefully I'll have good news 1/2 a year from now!!!
Only ran an 800m once on a track day and got 2.19 and then ran my only 400m a couple of hours later 57 seconds so I feel I do have some speed if I properly train for those distances
I’m 13 (turning 14 in iNovember ) and my pb is (2:39) this was a month ago, quite slow , struggling to get 2:20 . Thanks for some tips , really help , the thing that I might need help is running with the pack , knowing where to position my self the start , first round , second round , cutting into first lane , so that I won’t underestimate and overestimate the people that might overtake / letting them lead the whole race , which I try push through hard the last 150. cuz the event (in my school nationals country ) that has 16 runners in the heat and final , 2 in one lane for the first hundred then cut in to lane one . Sorry if this is long , appreciate if u could answer the tips that I might need help.
2:39 is quite slow for a 13 year old? No, not at all. HIGHLY competitive so don't discredit yourself. You are VERY young and your best running is decades from now. I didn't run my marathon PR of 2:19:35 until I was 31 years old. Watch your pacing, run YOUR race, not the packs race. Go after your goal time and aim to sustain it but don't go out too fast just because everyone else is. Attack with 500m to go in the race. Go out no slower than 73 seconds the first lap, stay as controlled and relaxed as you can. Drop your arms a few times after the first lap and fight as hard as you can with 500m to go. Good luck and keep us posted here on how it all goes.
I haven't tried my maximum effort but I've got a bit curious now. In my last training I did 800 in 2:30 but it was just one out of 6 reps in 5k race tempo that I did accidentaly too fast. However, I think I might want to give it a try. My 10k pb race time is 36:02 and 400m I managed in training in 57s. It's probably not gonna be easy but maybe I could get there. What do you think?
GREAT job having already run a 36:02 10k, you definitely have a sub 2, 800m in you, that workout you mentioned proves you have it in you and that 10k PR certainly shows your strength...stay relentless, it is bound to occur!
Gonna try to break 2 next week. Last week I negative split a 62 and 60 (2:02), and 10 minutes after that I ran a 54 second 400. I don’t know how I should go about my splits for a 1:59 though. What do you think? I’m a 4/8 runner by the way. I can at most do a 51 if I was with competition but my endurance lacks. I couldn’t imagine running my mile PR for mile repeats lol. 4:53
No faster than 60 through the first lap, come back hard with that 59 or faster. Focus on attacking with 300m left in the race. Your competition will really try to make a move at 200m to go. ATTACK at 300m. Let me know how it goes. Well done having run 2:02 and 4:53. Superior running!
@@rundreamachieve thank you for responding! But why exactly do you encourage negative splitting compared to most to say to positive splitting. I was talking to someone and they said I should go no slower than 58 on the first lap come back around 61/62 on the second. Is there a reason behind it??
@@jordycg5818 I think it all depends on the athlete JordyCG. I think going out in 58 is also a legit way to go too because you have some wiggle room for that second, painful lap. I always tended to go out a little too fast the first lap of my races when I was in high school but because I went out aggressive I had the ability to come back somewhat slower and still meet the goals I had when I was competing then. Run YOUR race. I'm excited to hear about your sub-2 because you ARE going to do it.
hey, i’m in HS and ran my PR of 2:05 in the 800 2 weeks ago for my final race of the the HS season, and planned on doing club track in hopes of getting more races to go under 2 but i’ve been having some training issues. for the last month my legs have felt unusually heavy and fatigued and i took a 10 day break off of running in hopes of fixing that but i still feel the same now. the issue is i only have until july for club track races, so i don’t know if i should extend my break in hopes of my legs getting better, or if i should push through it and hope it goes away on its own. what do you suggest is best? thanks!
Great job tyler dropping that 2:05. VERY well done and you will definitely be under 2 minutes in no time. I would suggest getting a blood test and ask the nurse/physician to have your ferritin levels checked..if you are below 30 nanograms your body is running very low on iron and your body is not able to transport oxygen throughout your body at optimal levels...usually when runners feel chronically fatigued it is because of this...you did the right thing taking time off but you shouldn't continue to feel flat. Keep up the great work out there. You have some massive new PRs coming your way in 2024.
Starting your kick 600m out from the finish and avoiding going way to fast in the first lap seem to be opposites. Also you said it’s a highly anearboic event but you need to train vo2 max, are those not also total opposites?
Pacing is definitely important...if you don't go out too hard in the first 400m than you will have that energy 600m out to make a move. Training at vo2max is training at highly anaerobic effort, So, they are similar. Hope that makes sense. It is vital to train at paces that are so excessive in pace that we need to stop to rest for a few seconds before taking the next rep..the body supercompensates, adapts and the athlete is no longer as stressed by race pace as they were when they were not as anaerobically (or aerobically for that matter) fit. Keep up the great work out there Alan. Thanks for your support of RDA
Hang in there and very well done having already run 2:03. It is a mental challenge now to get under 2 minutes. Watch that first lap. no need to go out any more aggressive than 61, attack that second lap and stay in it mentally. Not a question of IF but WHEN you do it now. Keep me posted.
I would like to ask you about this: speed sessions for 800 meters should be done with full recovery once per week? I noticed that I struggle to get under 60" for the 400 meters. Last week I did 4×400 with 10' rest: 61".17- 60".24- 60".30- 59".89 I am still trying to improve my 800 to get 2'04" Today I did this workout: 2 sets of 600+200 with 30" rest and 10' between sets: 1 set 1'37".41 and 31".82 2 set 1'35".55 and 32".4 ( I died). What do you think?
I think based off of these work outs you are well capable of breaking the 2:04 barrier. Make sure to aim to run that second lap faster than the first. I wouldn't go out any faster than 64 through the first lap then hammer that second. You are in great shape!
recently i just ran a 2:14 but with horrible splits started out way too fast 1:01 for the first 400 and then 1:13. I know what to do training wise working on my speed whilst keeping my endurance in check and working on things like tempo runs. But I wanted to ask how do you learn to pace well. The first 400 I ran I just tried to keep up with my heat so everyone was going very fast in the beginning
Outstanding work Sahil dropping that 2:14. I am sure you can run MUCH faster if you stay cool and slow down a bit in that first 400m. Pacing is sometimes the hardest part about being a runner. How do you pace well? Plan better. So, if your goal is to break 2, keep training at or close to 60 second quarter pace. Run the second lap faster than the first. 61/73 shows too anaerobic too soon, you still ran a great 800m time. That being said, more patience in that first lap will mean an even more competitive time. Keep me updated and well done.
Great video! I’m trying to break 2 this year in the 800m. I’m 16 and a sophomore so I’m hoping by senior year to run 1:55. My best this year is 2:05 and I think that says me up to go under 2:00 as a sophomore this year.
@@rundreamachieve would you have any advice for pushing yourself without competition. Nebraska class C/D track meets aren’t pushing the standard for a sub 2. I find it super hard to run when I’m not getting pushed.
@@MasonHagan1 I think at this point it is simply a mental barrier you have to overcome because you have what it takes physically to do this. Stay strong especially with 500m to go in the race. Make your move 500m out as everyone will wait until the last lap. Keep up the great work. You are going to break 2 minutes.
My current PR is a 2:08, which I ran last year, this year every time I run the 800, my first lap is usually a 61-63, but the second lap my legs just get so tight, and I just can’t mentally will myself to go faster. Is there something I can do to say loose, either during or before the race?
Keep working on your leg speed. Hills every other week and change up the paces during your long runs. So, run a faster long run one weekend followed the next with a JOG long run to ensure adaptation occurs. Try going out in 64-66 and coming back in a 61-62. You are going to run well below 2 minutes in due time. Keep me updated
Hey, how long were your tempos usually for training for the 800? Because I’m in xc right now (for a strong base for track) and I just ran 16:58 and trying to get down to 16:30s. However..I plan on running the 800m and 1600m come track season (with the 800m being my main event).
Hey JC, usually between 3 to 4 miles when I was in high school training for the 800m/1600m. Hope this helps and very well done having dropped that 16:58. You have a sub 16:30 coming my friend. Keep me updated.
Hey man..GREAT season and just know it is just a matter of time now before you run well below 2 minutes. 2:00 is an outstanding time. Next up. 1:50. You have it in you. Keep me posted.
I’m a freshman and i just ran a 2:08 without practicing for 2 weeks due to shin splints. Still have them bad but ran through them to get to states. I think I can hit 2:04-2:05. How long would it take to drop the last 5 seconds off to break 2?
Great job Andrew. Could be a matter of running just one more race. Going from 2:08 to 2:04-05 is more of a mental than physical jump. You will be under 2 minutes very soon.
@@gaseyihdswdfg Good luck and let me know how it goes. Don't go out any faster than 62 seconds through that first lap, attack that last lap ESPECIALLY with 300m to go. Do your best to stay as relaxed as you can in the race.
Idk if you’re still reply to comments but I just split 2:04 on the 4 x 8 (I was pretty much by myself) which would be like a 2:05 open MAYBE 2:04 if I was right next to people. The state qualifying standard is 2:01.72, is it possible to hit that in 5 weeks from a 2:05 high? For context my pr for the 1600 is 4:45 but I’m confident I can run under 4:40 next meet in a few days so probably about 4:39, and I would guess I have about 54 mid 400 speed.
Outstanding work Ovah! Yes, without a doubt it is possible to go from 2:04/2:05 to 2:01.72. Be patient in that first lap. Look up Dave Wottle's 1972 Olympic 800m final race and look at how he ran that. It isn't where you are at in the first 400m, where are you at the finish? Let the others take off too fast in that first lap and run as hard as you possibly can with 300m left in the race. Once you get to to 500m you need to be going ALL OUT. You can do it.
