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How to scrape the web for LLM in 2024: Jina AI (Reader API), Mendable (firecrawl) and Scrapegraph-ai 

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Jina AI: jina.ai/reader
Mendable's Firecrawl: www.firecrawl.dev/
Scrapegraph-ai: github.com/VinciGit00/Scrapeg...
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Комментарии : 92   
@jarad4621
@jarad4621 20 дней назад
Dammit stop telling everybody about Jina my secret weapon, just stop, it's my advantage, everybody ignore it it's horrible I swear
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 20 дней назад
TOO LATE
@jarad4621
@jarad4621 20 дней назад
@@devlearnllm 😉. This was one of the mostly highly valuable vids ive seen in past few weeks when considering the contents, the top 3 special scrapers i searched hard for mentioned all together in one good video, nice, add to good cheap open source llm like llama 3 and it = $$$ if you know how, data is valuable, things that were not possible or affordably viable for most previously are now, i can do stuff for $12 now that some would pay thousands for, its a wonderful new world! Just finished something awesome with python and Jina and openrouter Llama 3 in 2 days thats gonna double my revenue or more and i dont even know how to code lol, thanks gpt. Jina does have paid api key on the api page btw, 1m free, 580 pages or so it worked out to. but the pricing is so low its insane, 500m tokens or 280 000 pages for $10, destroys firecrawl pricing, which is also good and has its place but much more costly). i think scrapegraph uses llm to parse so its gonna be expensive on tokens right, sending raw website to llms? Ive asked them like you did. I only wish Jina showed menus and internal links and it would be perfect, those have valuable data itself and identifies more valuable pages for more visits like pricing, ill ask if there is a way but i guess can add something cheap to the workflow for that, any suggestions? Prob some python libary, ill ask perplexity lol. Im actually new to the tech side but i see the business value as a marketer so learning fast as i can! its the new gold rush. Great video, subbed looking forward to more. Cheers
@TheBrighamhall
@TheBrighamhall 18 дней назад
@@devlearnllm thought you said Jira and was so confused..
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 17 дней назад
@@TheBrighamhall imagine lol
@ShinyTechThings
@ShinyTechThings 16 дней назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kylelau1329
@kylelau1329 21 день назад
Thank you for introducing all the latest technology for web scraping!
@alonsoalarconaguilar7113
@alonsoalarconaguilar7113 15 дней назад
RU-vid algorithm is just insanely good at what it does, this exactly the content I needed and I think I have found what I want to dedicate my life to as a professional. Thank you for the video, I will buy your course as fast as I collect the money.
@matten_zero
@matten_zero 19 дней назад
The reader API tip is so clutch. Thank You!
@antoniuskonovalov
@antoniuskonovalov 19 дней назад
Just started wondering about web scraping and here you are. Thank you.
@ariG23498
@ariG23498 День назад
How did I not get your content sooner? Love it!
@kuhltime
@kuhltime 20 дней назад
Came at the perfect time. Very good video. Thx 😊
@forgotmyoldSN
@forgotmyoldSN День назад
Thanks for adding a new project to my to do list!
@markt4565
@markt4565 11 дней назад
keep up the good work! - this is an awesome presentation!
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 11 дней назад
TY
@st.3m906
@st.3m906 19 дней назад
Amazing video, thank you
@NikhilSwamiExperimental
@NikhilSwamiExperimental День назад
chigga dropping bomb content, meranwhile i made a comment analyzer for highly detailed videos which have 100+ comments, and dint have time for going through all. man, sometimes you dont need to build an ironman suit to do simple shet.
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 23 часа назад
Printing this comment out and putting on my wall
@roberthuff3122
@roberthuff3122 20 дней назад
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *🚀 Introduction to web scraping for LLMs in 2024* - Overview of startups pivoting to web scraping. - Mention of Mendable and its "fire crawl" tool for scraping the web using large language models. 02:06 *🔍 Scraping competitors' pricing pages* - The process of scraping competitors' pricing for market research. - Introduction to tools used for scraping: Jina AI, Mendable, and Scrapegraph-ai. 03:01 *🧠 Understanding "Tik token" and its application* - Explanation of tokenization and encoding in web scraping. - Discussion on the cost implications based on tokenization. 05:17 *🛠️ Setting up scrapers with Beautiful Soup and other tools* - Description of different scraping tools and their setup. - Comparisons among Beautiful Soup, Jina AI, and Mendable based on ease of use and output. 07:32 *📊 Running scrapers and analyzing outputs* - Execution of web scraping and evaluation of the output from different tools. - Analysis of readability and format of the scraped data. 09:37 *💰 Cost comparison and effectiveness of scraping tools* - Comparison of costs associated with various scraping tools. - Evaluation of which tool provides the most value for money. 12:53 *🤖 Extracting pricing information using OpenAI* - Utilization of OpenAI for extracting specific data points. - Challenges and strategies in obtaining clean and useful information. 17:20 *🌐 Overview of Scrapegraph for advanced web scraping* - Introduction to Scrapegraph as an open-source project. - Examples of complex data extraction and its accuracy. Made with HARPA AI
@thethree60five
@thethree60five 20 дней назад
...The best in-browser AI automation system.
@thedoctor5478
@thedoctor5478 20 дней назад
This Jina thing is cool. The beautifulsoup scraper is obviously not a solution. Most web pages (Especially articles, media, etc.) have google schema ld+json ready to be extracted though. There are some good python libs for getting the metadata. There are many scraping APIs, and most of them are not worth the cost IMO. phantomjscloud is probably one exception, depending on volume. Otherwise, one must find a good proxy provider and send a bunch of fancy http headers to bypass anti-bot, like you said. Blackhatworld is a great resource for proxies and all manner of other accounts. The whole scraping thing is a giant rabbit-hole. Jina is for sure keeping all that data. It's not a bad plan, actually. I think I may do the same.
@moafro6524
@moafro6524 5 дней назад
Underrated glad I found
@nickk6575
@nickk6575 20 дней назад
Greta video! The open source tool looks great! As an aside, I use instructor and pydantic classes to get the LLMs to provide the JSON as I expect it. In my limited experience, dspy wasn't as explicit as I wanted.
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 20 дней назад
Good idea
@jarad4621
@jarad4621 20 дней назад
Are you you using thos two libraries with agency swarm agentic framework, it uses those a well to ensure performance/quality, if not maybe something you might be interested in, a proper production-capable agentic framework. That with its automation and decision-making capability plus Jina + llms = profit for so many use cases
@catchychazz
@catchychazz 17 дней назад
Are you referring to DSPy assertions?
@sitedev
@sitedev 20 дней назад
Gold!
@uwepleban3784
@uwepleban3784 19 дней назад
The transcript at 1:39 states that you are using large sandwich models. This must be a brand new type of model - mouth watering indeed. 😂
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 19 дней назад
Heck yeah 🥪
@planplay5921
@planplay5921 19 дней назад
But the first problem that all crawls need to face is how to avoid being blocked.
@PracticalAI_
@PracticalAI_ 6 дней назад
there are ways, maybe I will do a video about that ... but that is a dark art :)
@planplay5921
@planplay5921 6 дней назад
@@PracticalAI_ I'm really looking forward to it!😊
@supriyosarkar1806
@supriyosarkar1806 7 дней назад
I feel really sad. that you publicly talked about Jina. I used to feel special knowing very few people are aware of it lol
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 6 дней назад
my badd
@khemchay
@khemchay 7 дней назад
Jina love it...
@BlueBearOne
@BlueBearOne 15 дней назад
Thank you. I'll be "away" for a while while I conquer the...I mean save the world!
@terrytan1827
@terrytan1827 4 дня назад
16:05 Worth trying out GPT-4, I find it more accurate at following instruction.
@jetlime08
@jetlime08 7 дней назад
Is the LLM community really not aware of 40 year old Natural Language Pre-processing methods developed for data mining and NLP?
@erickcampos50
@erickcampos50 4 дня назад
Could you explain it better? I can't see how to connect what you said with this subject
@RenkoGSL
@RenkoGSL 19 дней назад
lol that's awesome!
@user-xj5gz7ln3q
@user-xj5gz7ln3q 19 дней назад
GPT 4o can do this now. Just tested and it's awesome.
@augmentos
@augmentos 18 дней назад
Can anyone speak to the architecture or other tools to prevent detection using beautiful soup as he mentioned? What would be the best process to avoid detection and what tools I wish you elaborated there considering it’s the subject of video in large part.
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 19 дней назад
If anyone’s having issues viewing the notebook on GitHub, it’s GitHub’s fault. Feel free to clone it (the cod e is there, GH just couldn’t display it recently: stackoverflow.com/questions/78501731/error-nbformat-when-uploading-to-github-from-google-colab)
@stanTrX
@stanTrX 20 дней назад
What are the good and easy to use tools with langchain? Llm is not very useful without such tools, even it has no idea about the date today.
@stevefox7469
@stevefox7469 20 дней назад
How do these tools cope with CloudFlare operating on the target site, which attempts to block scrapping?
@svenvanwier7196
@svenvanwier7196 14 дней назад
cant stop the bots i know about seleniumbase for python..... takes some research but... hey
@artmadiar
@artmadiar 20 дней назад
Great presentation! I'm surprised about jin ai free scraper that doesn't require an API?!! I guess it might be shut down soon for public access
@jarad4621
@jarad4621 20 дней назад
There is a paid version thats worth it, check the api page, key at bottom out generates a unique one somehow, you get 1m free then $10 for 500m tokens which is like 280k pages which is insanely low and basically free anyways, crazy valuable tool
@artmadiar
@artmadiar 20 дней назад
@@jarad4621 oh wow! it's amazing! thanks for clarification
@AtharvDharmadhikari-vc9fk
@AtharvDharmadhikari-vc9fk 17 дней назад
I used scrapegraph ai and was also stuck to get cost, but then I just took the cost my making some changes inside the scrapegraphai library as internally the library is using langchain and langsmith so it was calculating the cost.
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 17 дней назад
That's awesome. How do you get it to work with LangSmith?
@TranKiet-pj9mw
@TranKiet-pj9mw 7 дней назад
youtube really know what i am looking :V with python craw a website with LLM is simple just a few line of code . back to 8 year ago i used python tool do a same thing with higher effort . right now , i m trying to mixed data from website/ database with knowledge map for observation view then i could find the short path according its , that will taking less time to read entire book in this field , just focus in some topic but still get the result . nah but you introduced the method with LLM . thanks
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 12 часов назад
Awesome. Thanks for sharing
@danielcave9606
@danielcave9606 День назад
How well does Jina do with bigger sites with anti-bot protection?
@marthasamuel
@marthasamuel 14 дней назад
Would these work for a dynamic website
@thingX1x
@thingX1x 4 дня назад
Using jina now hehe. Does anyone know if you can get better results from amazon?
@shivam_in
@shivam_in 15 дней назад
If I'm going to scrap millions of pages regularly, no way in hell AI would come anywhere close in accuracy and efficiency than a plane Http request or browser load and Jsoup parsing.
@nzt29
@nzt29 22 часа назад
Haven’t watched it fully yet, but I’m really curious to see how it handles the looming threat of model collapse. edit: Yeah it didn’t talk about it. It’s going to be hellish when the internet becomes increasingly flooded with LLM output
@prashantbhardwaj6322
@prashantbhardwaj6322 13 дней назад
Can you please fix the camera please already feeling dizzy within 60 seconds due to constant camera movement!
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 13 дней назад
Working on it. Just need to find the setting in DJI Pocket 3 to slow down the tracking speed
@GeoffY2020
@GeoffY2020 18 дней назад
i tried to read or download the Web_scraping_for_LLM_in_2024.ipynb but its not readable, can you replace it ?
@GeoffY2020
@GeoffY2020 18 дней назад
ok i can read it in colab
@PedroIvo-iz5sv
@PedroIvo-iz5sv 14 дней назад
it works in portuguese?
@PineState77
@PineState77 12 дней назад
What’s the best way to get in touch?
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 12 дней назад
Details in the video’s description
@bastabey2652
@bastabey2652 3 дня назад
these scrapping tools are impressive... but they are not ready for scrapping full website with 100s of webpages.. unfortunately, there is still significant a room for manual scraping..
@denisblack9897
@denisblack9897 19 дней назад
Damn, bro get ready for heavy lifting) baldness is coming Been there, you’ll look much much better!
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 19 дней назад
Lmao thanks brother
@jarg7
@jarg7 19 дней назад
broken link to github
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 19 дней назад
Yeah there’s something weird with GitHub not displaying the notebook right. The link is the same.
@MMABeijing
@MMABeijing 17 дней назад
That s basic stuff, I feel like it s 2023, and I was late to the party too
@flor.7797
@flor.7797 19 дней назад
none of these seem better than Trafilatura?
@flor.7797
@flor.7797 19 дней назад
scrapegraph looks cool though
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 19 дней назад
@@flor.7797 How's your experience using Trafilatura? I haven't tried that yet
@flor.7797
@flor.7797 18 дней назад
@@devlearnllm I’m more into main content extraction and boilerplate removal. There isn’t one size fits all unfortunately
@ryana2952
@ryana2952 20 дней назад
Fix your camera thats annoying AF
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 20 дней назад
Sounds like you don’t like the swiveling on it
@kungfooman
@kungfooman 6 дней назад
"how to block these fuckin idiots AWS servers to protect your website" next
@kevinlukejr.8996
@kevinlukejr.8996 2 дня назад
Fire crawl is to to expensive
@chetanesque158
@chetanesque158 4 дня назад
intersting! although I was distracted by your attire... Seriously I was not born 30 years ago man, but can we dress a bit better for a presentation?!
@devlearnllm
@devlearnllm 4 дня назад
Lol what's wrong with my wardrobe
@pcebro
@pcebro 6 дней назад
You should definitely wear pants.
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