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HOW TO: Season your Black Carbon Steel Pan with Chef Naomi Pomeroy 

Matfer Bourgeat USA
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Remembering Chef Namoi Pomeroy:
Chef Naomi's uncompromising technique, vision, and incredible generosity in good times and bad made her an inspiration to the American restaurant industry, and us here at Matfer Bourgeat USA. We are heartbroken at the news of her passing at the age of 49.
You can learn more about her life and legacy here: www.nytimes.com/2024/07/16/di...
Chef Naomi Pomeroy, of Ripe Cooperative in Portland, Oregon, is a big fan of cooking in black steel.
Here, she'll show you how to get your first coat of seasoning on your Matfer pan, with some pro tips for keeping it slick and nonstick for years to come.
00:00 Meet Chef Naomi
00:35 Seasoning with Potato Skins
01:04 Your First Few Uses
01:25 Maintenance Tips and Tricks
01:47 "It's All About Perseverance"

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29 июл 2024

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@tejaberberich5767
@tejaberberich5767 Год назад
MORELS!!! Can't wait to cook some morels in my pan. :-)
@H4KnSL4K
@H4KnSL4K 2 месяца назад
Seasoning in the oven works well too! Give it a head start with two rounds .. oven at like 350F to heat the pan, rub a thin layer of seed oil all over, let it heat fully, then wipe it all off [with a paper towel], bake at 450 for an hour, and give it an hour to cool. After the second round, frying hamburgers seems to really darken the pan as well, and to clean off stuck on bits, carefully deglaze it (not at full temp) with close to boiling water, dump the water, and light scrub with oil & salt. Wipe the salt away and you're left with a thin protective coat of oil.
@TheRockMorton
@TheRockMorton Год назад
My new 12-5/8 Matfer pan is awesome. No warp. Reading the comments gave me the good idea to review the Matfer pan FAQ. Going to try Libman 100% copper scrubber to remove the coating. Will bon appetit after the scrub and seasoning!
@VOREVOXM0M286
@VOREVOXM0M286 12 дней назад
RIP❤
@genevieveboucher2124
@genevieveboucher2124 Год назад
why is my new pan flat when cool and feels warped when hot?... i heated it very slowly when seasoning
@roberttaylor9259
@roberttaylor9259 3 года назад
okay, I do not know what vegetable based coating you guys put on it but it's not just a quick easy scrub with dawn. I understand some people get those type of pans but a lot of us get a thick resiny coating that is tenuous. Scrubbing did nothing, boiling water in the pan did nothing. It took oven cleaner soaking the pan for an hour for it to fully come off. It seems like 30% of people who buy the pans get this type of gel'd on coating. Now I'm not really complaining but I do think it important if someone is looking for resources about this they see this comment.
@MatferBourgeatUSA1814
@MatferBourgeatUSA1814 3 года назад
Hey Robert, thanks for the input! We've heard that some people are having trouble with tougher protective coatings and have communicated that to the factory to get it (literally) smoothed out! In the meantime, there are lots of good resources for startup and care here on RU-vid, and everyone is always welcome to write to us on social or at contact@matferbourgeatusa.com with specific questions- we'll here to help you get the most out of your pan. Happy cooking!
@MatferBourgeatUSA1814
@MatferBourgeatUSA1814 3 года назад
Oh, and our advice is to steer away from boiling to remove the protective coating...that might have the opposite effect!
@MrBullet888
@MrBullet888 3 года назад
Robert, I have carbon steel and cast iron. I season both of them the same way and have not had any problems. I use the Field method and do this every time I cook in either pan. fieldcompany.com/pages/how-to-season-cast-iron-pan-skillet-instructions The big difference is that carbon steel is smooth and takes a bit longer to build up seasoning. I have a Stargazer cast iron pan that is smooth and it took a while longer compared to my Lodge and Field skillets. Hope this helps.
@roberttaylor9259
@roberttaylor9259 3 года назад
@@MrBullet888 I appreciate the information, I do. However, at no point did I ever ask about seasoning method. Your information is great and I will use it in the future but the problem I have is with the protective (not beeswax) coating that is shipped on some of the matfer pans.
@Rossski
@Rossski 3 года назад
I read a couple reviews that said soaking the whole pan in rubbing/isopropyl alcohol breaks down the coating quickly. Acetone might work too. A high % bottle of either usually gets the job done. And/or prolonged high heat in the oven (with baking sheet under to catch any drips).
@davidh.9703
@davidh.9703 2 года назад
Hi Naomi-Very helpful on the seasoning process. Thank you. But nothing said about how to clean and maintain it after each time the pan is used. I have read some suggesting rinsing (no soap) and completely wiping out the pan, then heating it enough to make sure all of the moisture has evaporated, and then applying a very light protective coating of oil before putting the pan away. What do you think of that approach? I have also read that every couple of weeks or so, after use and cleaning, it is good to apply a light layer of oil, then heat to smoking point and let it smoke for a minute or two, as a "maintenance seasoning." Not sure if after doing that it is necessary to apply another light protective layer of oil before putting the pan away? Finally, any suggestions on the outside of the pan and the handle? Would appreciate your thoughts on these pan maintenance suggestions? Would also appreciate any comments from other RU-vidrs about their experiences.
@LukeMcGregor22
@LukeMcGregor22 Год назад
She said all you need to do is wipe it down and make sure it's dry and clean.
@hooksrub
@hooksrub Год назад
Is using a cast iron chain mail scrubber advisable to clean/scrub after its been seasoned???
@philsmith774
@philsmith774 3 месяца назад
Yes you can, the chain mail won't remove the seasoning, assuming it's been properly seasoned. I only use chain mail where there are bits of food stuck to the pan that won't remove with a basic wipe.
@blaqfish
@blaqfish 8 месяцев назад
Can this be done on a electric stove top? This is the stove that came with my apartment and every video I watch all have gas or induction. I saved up for this pan and I have not done a first seasoning because everyone content is not using a old stove like I have. The inside is storage that's why I haven't tried the oven method. Thank you for sharing information on this
@devious2172
@devious2172 4 месяца назад
What did you end up doing? I'm in the same position and considering seasoning in the oven or on a camping stove because I'm not confident in the electric burners.
@H4KnSL4K
@H4KnSL4K 2 месяца назад
@@devious2172 I have electric stove-top as well. I can season most of the bottom of the pan, but I use an oven method to get the whole thing. Otherwise, find a gas-powered camp stove, or a BBQ / grill or something!
@costantineyoussif6679
@costantineyoussif6679 2 года назад
Do handles get hot ? I have a gas stove
@EverettWilson
@EverettWilson Год назад
Yes, they can. Having a work towel around to grab the pans is nice.
@gerardvincent8041
@gerardvincent8041 2 года назад
what ingredients do you avoid cooking in your carbon steel pan?
@berniem.6965
@berniem.6965 2 года назад
Everything acidic like tomato sauce, wine based sauces or vinegar based products. You should also not cook liquids for extended periods of time. If the seasoning builds up over time, you may cook some of these things from time to time. It will still strip some seasoning but not down to the bare metal.
@gerardvincent8041
@gerardvincent8041 2 года назад
@@berniem.6965 thank you for the info.i made the mistake of making some gravy in a relatively new pan. it took off some of the seasoning. appreciate the prompt reply
@berniem.6965
@berniem.6965 2 года назад
Making gravy or a sauce (non acidic) is fine. Yes, it may affect the seasoning on a relatively new skillet. But you can simply reseason it whenever necessary. A quick stove top seasoning only takes a few minutes. Don't overestimate the look of the skillet. It doesn't have to be completely black to perform. As long as there is at least a minimal layer of seasoning, everything is fine. Due to the smooth surface, drawn carbon skillets don't hold the seasoning very well. There's always some seasoning lost when using the skillet while new seasoning builds up. It constantly changes. As long as you don't see the bare, shiny metal, just keep cooking. If you see bare metal, reseason the skillet and keep cooking. People tend to make a big fuss about the seasoning. All it needs to do is protecting the metal from rust and avoid the food from reacting with it. If you want to learn more about carbon steel like different cleaning methods or seasoning methods, have a look at channels like Uncle Scott’s Kitchen or Cook Culture. You can also apply most information about cast iron to carbon steel. Both materials share most of their properties. Therefore, a channel like Cowboy Kent Rollins can be worth a watch.
@gerardvincent8041
@gerardvincent8041 2 года назад
@@berniem.6965 thank you for that detailed reply/info. it's really helpful for people like me who only just started using one.
@DoubleDogDare54
@DoubleDogDare54 2 года назад
Whatever one else has said about acidic food. I am also leery of frying fish in anything with a seasoning on them because they can pick up that "fried fish" smell and it is like when your dog gets skunked - a gift that keeps on giving. So just think twice if you want to do a fish fry with it.
@bobandmarywilliams7282
@bobandmarywilliams7282 3 года назад
I, like Robert, have a pan with a substantial protective coating. I followed the instructions with the use of hot water, mild detergent and bristle brush to remove it without success. What is the next step the company recommends to remove this coating. I did not see a clear answer to Robert Taylor's question.
@berniem.6965
@berniem.6965 2 года назад
You may want to check my answer to the other comment.
@bobandmarywilliams7282
@bobandmarywilliams7282 2 года назад
@@berniem.6965 . Thank you. I found your reply and will try it this week.
@Changbastard
@Changbastard 2 года назад
What about the bottom of the pan? Does that need to be seasoned as well?
@CapnHilts
@CapnHilts Год назад
I emailed the factory about this. Basically they said just make sure to coat the entire pan with oil after each use, top, bottom, and handle
@H4KnSL4K
@H4KnSL4K 2 месяца назад
@@CapnHilts It needs an initial seasoning. But as I look at my pan, the outside is super slick and the seasoning stays .. because it's not exposed to food which might remove the seasoning on the inside.
@dbkfrogkaty1
@dbkfrogkaty1 10 дней назад
It does not have to be. I did not on either one of my Matfer pans. They are fine.
@pauldarling330
@pauldarling330 3 года назад
yeah, gotta add on I don't see why you guys don't just use beeswax. I have another matfer pan coming and I am dreading stripping it down. Otherwise they are my favorite carbon steel pans.
@berniem.6965
@berniem.6965 2 года назад
Check my answer to Robert's comment. The skillets are made in Germany. Beeswax is quite expensive due to parasites that contaminate beeswax and a disease wiping out large quantities of our local bees. On top of that, there's more and more fake wax from China mixed with beeswax to profit from the high prices. While some companies like DeBuyer use beeswax as rust protection, most carbon steel cookware is coated with all kinds of oil, wax or plastic. If Matfer provided the original instructions from the manufacturer of the skillets, there would be a lot less confusion about how to remove the coating.
@dbkfrogkaty1
@dbkfrogkaty1 2 года назад
I hear you there. I would have liked to get another Matfer but the thought of going through the process of getting that coating off turned me away. Went with a de Buyer instead.
@berniem.6965
@berniem.6965 2 года назад
There's nothing wrong with your choice. DeBuyer and Turk / Matfer are both excellent brands. My only gripe with DeBuyer is them insisting on coating the handles of the lower priced skillets so they're not 100% oven safe. I still like them and have quite a number of them in my 'collection'.
@preacherrob
@preacherrob Год назад
A light scrubbing ?............lol, try a sandblaster!
@megasav
@megasav 2 года назад
Today I received a 11 inch Matfer carbon steel pan. Took it out of the box and thought what a nice pan. I set the pan on my granite counter top and barely touched the handle and it spun around three whole revolutions. It’s a spinner, warped. Contacted Amazon, sending it back. I took out my 12 inch Matfer, which has a lot of use, put in on counter top, touched the handle and it didn’t spin but very little not even a full revolution. I did some research and found that a lot of Matfers do arrive to the customers warped. Very disappointed.
@eda7875
@eda7875 7 месяцев назад
I dont understhand the whole potato skin thing. Seems like an old wives tale thing. I just coated the thing with a very thin layer of veg. Oil and put it in a 500 degree oven for 30mins. Then did that 2 more times and started cooki g with it.
@H4KnSL4K
@H4KnSL4K 2 месяца назад
I think it's mostly a way to expose the whole pan to oil of the right temperature for a certain period of time. But I don't know for sure, apparently potatoes naturally have some kind of acid in them; I don't know if that helps or if it's counterproductive.
@moomoocowsly
@moomoocowsly Месяц назад
The potato skins are simply a natural form of roughage, the salt is an abrasive, and the oil begins the initial seasoning of the pan. The real purpose of this combination is for clearing off every speck of shipping grease/coating so that it's safe to cook in.
@alj521
@alj521 2 года назад
oh, they did not burn your place down??? Great advice
@camitaleb9854
@camitaleb9854 2 года назад
That black pan looks like it has a lot of stick on grease
@randmayfield5695
@randmayfield5695 Год назад
Non cooks have a hard time understanding the love relationship between a well seasoned carbon steel pan and the person that cooks with it. Edit: Asian
@dbkfrogkaty1
@dbkfrogkaty1 10 дней назад
I heard that. I try to explain to family members the benefits of carbon steel pans and why they should get rid of those lightweight "non-stick" pans they all seem to have. Only pans you should have are carbon steel, cast iron, and cladded stainless steel.
@randmayfield5695
@randmayfield5695 10 дней назад
@@dbkfrogkaty1 You speak with knowledge and I agree completely.
@kimberly1567
@kimberly1567 6 месяцев назад
How in the world would that pan ever last at a restaurant with not being stolen? I would sleep with it beneath my pillow
@H4KnSL4K
@H4KnSL4K 2 месяца назад
Haha. Because these pans are not very expensive, and I'm sure they lock up the whole restaurant anyways. (I think cooks have their own personal knives, which they take home and secure)
@adamhutton4165
@adamhutton4165 Год назад
Sorry but this lady is 100% OUT OF HER MIND!!! The coating is like a layer of plastic and takes a MINIMUM of 15 minutes of hard scrubbing and could take 1/2 an hour. One guy uses LYE to remove it. In this lady's video above, the coating is still in place when she is trying to season. She is actually cooking on the plastic coating. How do I know? I own EIGHT Matfer pans of all sizes so actually have more experience with them than she does. If you get this pan (and I strongly recommend you do) prepare to be in for a difficult slog in removing the coating. It's no joke.
@H4KnSL4K
@H4KnSL4K 2 месяца назад
What about using an SOS pad or similar? That should take it right out, right? For an initial seasoning, you don't need to worry about scrubbing off any seasoning yet...
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