Thank you so much! I’ve had this klh for years and never knew many of these features. Now getting some wow and flutter below 30 hz. This will help so much getting it cleaned up.
Very thorough instructions. Got my Garrard 1025 running after it was sitting in a closet for 45 years. Follow the steps , don't get in a hurry and everything should work out. Now I can listen to what my parents listened to on this and their 78 records !
Everywhere that was lubed with that grease will be frozen with the powdery residue of what remains of the grease, and must be cleaned and then re-lubed with a good grease. I used to use "Phonolube", which came in a metal tube, from Chemtronics(?), but I'm sure there are better greases available these days, such as that lithium grease you're using. Those Garrards were made totally of metal parts, and a complete cleaning and re-lube will get them like new. The motor and the idler wheel are the only issues that need to be dealt with. Great video.
Having watched your video you have given me more confidence to service 2 Gerrard A Type turntables that I have, I won't take everything apart but will take my time and clean where ever possible so not to lose any of those small clips, and I have a service manual to follow as well. I know my turntables are not the same as the one you worked on but the basics are there. Thank you for the video I have picked up on a few things.
You are such a lifesaver! I bought a fergusons record player today but the auto mechanism wasn't working, you just boosted my confidence in repairing stuff 😅
Excellent video. Thanks for making and uploading this. 👍 I have found that all the used record changers i have purchased need serious cleaning and lubrication and then they work fine. Adjusting the tonearm force and installing the best cartridge/stylus is another important step. Even the simplest Garrard or BSR can be made to work like new unless some parts are broken or bent. When the grease dried up users tried to force the controls and did serious damage.
Hi Jordan. New subscriber. Lovely job, they don't make them like that anymore. I remember using one of these when i was little. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. #StaySafe
40years ago the only thing that needed replacement on these was the stylus, now days everyone I get has a frozen cam , nice video Jordan thanks for producing all of them , I’d do my own RU-vid channel but I’m too pressed on time
Smashing service, i always liked the old record decks :-D All metal, not easy to break and just does the basic job. Yes there are fancy ones, but most people are not audiophiles and just wanted a bit of music. That garrard looks nice too :-D
Yeah boy, that grease they used turned into hard setting glue big time. I must’ve fixed hundreds of these since the 70’s when they started locking up. Extremely reliable mechanism once it’s all setup.
I remember these well, in the sixties and early seventies I worked in a audio repair shop. I probably worked on hundreds of these . I liked these better than bsr's or VM's. The heat gun is a good tip, I had to use WD40 (the absolutely the only thing it is good for) and let it sit for a while for the old grease to loosen, then clean it off with cleaner and degrease. While it isn't that way now I remember trying a new fangled silicon grease and oil, that was supposed to never dry out, that our visiting parts dealer swore by. With in a month I had about twenty tape recorders and turntables come back all frozen up. I threw that stuff out and didn't have a problem a again.
@Seventh Anubis VM licensed their stuff around the world. As I recall, in Canada they were made by Seabreeze,, Telefunken made them in Europe, and Wincofon had a license in Argentina. Garrard licensed their machines to BIC in America in the 1970s, as their British products were banned due to plastic parts liquefying in fire.
@Seventh Anubis BIC started out importing and distributing Garrards, but after they were banned, they started producing their own, to Garrard spec using US approved materials.
@@dougbrowning82 They had their own models too. I had a MCS made by BIC. I didn't particularly care for it, but it was the only one of few BIC made for MCS, thank God most were done by Technics. I'd rather have a Gerrard than a BIC anyday.
I liked the Gerrards, have owned many of them and still have a few. For a budget player you really cant beat em. Relube and they'll probably yuh last another 50 years. Definitely better than any chinesium crap on the market today.
It really is incredible how well these things are built considering they were budget turntables. All metal, a decent sized AC motor, proper fasteners and bearings. This simply could not be made today. Even if something similar was made today, it wouldn't be all metal, it would be all plastic. And if you really want to be amazed, look at 1930s electric changers. They are built like they are industrial machinery. They probably weigh a good 50 plus pounds.
Thanks so much for the highly informative view vid! Have a Gerrard 3000 in the original Ferguson plynth Cannot drop record onto it unless I physically push the spindle in; also the auto not working doesn't return automatically either any ideas as to some repair advice pls everything else works great ie playing etc 👍😊
I have a small tabletop GE console with a flip down garrard TT...once cleaned and lubed it is very reliable ....only difference I see is mine has a removable headshell
I have a 40b which is basically the same as this one. All functions work except that every once in a while when the shutoff cycle engages, instead of the tonearm returning to the rest position it instead goes to the 7" play position. the turntable still shuts off but the tonearm is on the record instead of the rest.
Hey, this is a long shot; we've recent picked up a model 40b in dynatron mazurka unit. We're not getting any sound output with speaker or headphones attached. Any ideas?
I lost my temper with a Garrard turntable back in the 70's/80's. Can't remember exactly when. I had reached my temper threshold for AC motor, _mechanically_ induced 50Hz hum (I'm in the UK, hence 50Hz) I was playing a record, became increasingly annoyed at 50Hz - mechanically coupled in every _warped_ bounce of the LP I was playing. Ripped my Sure Cartridge from the arm and threw the damn thing down the stairs.... I think I gracefully unplugged it first :-/ I wanted my next Turntable from then, to be DC.
good day, I am restoring an HMV radiograme which has a Garrard 3000 turntable. i notice on the model in this video RCA sockets are provided to connect the deck to an amp. on the 3000 i have there is a strip of spade terminals to solder the L,R and Ground wires for this purpose. I can follow that no problem but what is confusing me is there are also a number of resistors and capacitors also across these terminals one of which is only connected one end - Im struggling to find what these are for and what the part disconnected capacitor is for- any thoughts?
That is a compensation network for the cartridge so the loading is proper and good frequency response is possible. If you remove them it will severely degrade the sound
They have an m1 and m2 They say the m2 won’t work with at6 or 3000 but nothing about their m1 I am waiting for a reply from them Do you know if the m1 , smaller mount will work?
My at6 has a slight hesitation (sometimes freezes) on startup on auto but runs fine in manual. But on the return it will also slow down. All this happened after taking the platter off and giving it a simple lube. I have no idea why. It was basically working fine before i did this.
Hello ; I have a KLH model 11 with FM. I need to replace the Garrard rubber slip mat. Do you have any ideas of where to purchase OEM, or what size does my model 11 take ? I am servicing this suitcase player according to your video. Thanks
No idea where to get a good looking one. Voice of music mats are the only repros new I'm aware of. I suppose one could be made to fit. You could just lay s cork or felt mat on it for the interim
Really enjoyed this vid you sounded very patient I was hoping you would get to the tone arm design never saw that Garrard had a floating system it reminded me of the Zenith brand that had something similar where you could push tone arm while it played and not scratch record,I recently bought a Garrard AT-50 but what is confusing me is the main platter says AT-60 where badge by the swtch says AT-50 but the tone arm and record stabilizer are from the AT-60 ,underneath of metal base it says 64 which I assume is the year it was made everything about this when compared to both models it resembles 90% more toward the AT-60 to me everything looks original I don't think platter was changed ,I saw a pic of the AT-50 the record stabilizer is way different than the AT-60 looking at the tone arm the AT-50 is square like and counter wieght is different and the AT-60 is more tubular ansd counterwieght is different not to mention the platter is way different ,what do you think did factory make a mistake ???? JRo
Likely this was a budget design that used off the shelf ready parts to make a turntable. This was common for department store console turntables and house brand stuff.
Awesome video! I have a KLH Model Eleven (the turntable in the suitcase model); have you ever successfully been able to take out the Garrard turntable from the suitcase? Is it even possible? Whatever screws on the suitcase does not seem to be doing the trick.
Hi I have a Garrard model 2025tc enclosed in a cabinet. There is a problem about the selector switch. The selector switch is of HMV made and has selection among tape , radio , gram . Gram has M ( I think for mono ) and S ( think for stereo ) letters as selection . It is a bit hard to turn and the sound does not comes out good especially on S position. Can I find a replacement switch or better clean it well. Thanks
@@JordanPier thanks for your reply maybe need a bit more cleaning cause I used a contact cleaning, don't know if it has lubricant. I used ambertron contact cleaning
This was very well done and has given me the confidence to service my KLH Model 20. One question Jordan...how to remove the Garrard mechanism from the cabinet...any tips would be appreciated.Thank you
You have to gain access to the underside of the model 20. You should see a rectangular clip at the end of each screw coming down from the top side of the turntable. Push down on the turntable from the top while flipping the clip so that it hugs the side of the screw, rather than being perpendicular to it. Disconnect the audio and power connectors. Grab by connector only. May take some effort, but they'll come loose and you can lift out the turntable for service.
Thank you so very much. This stereo means a lot to me. My dad bought it new in 1966, it was our record player growing up. I rescued it from his attic after he passed….still works….still in beautiful condition…new stylus and turntable service and it will be good for another 60 years!
At 24:57 I cleaned the lever and it popped out and now my off/manual/auto switch is not free moving and gets stuck on auto and will not pop back like it did before. How do I fix this? Everything looks fine, but the little hook thing on the opposite end of the lever is pressing up against the little pin thing and it will not move or it gets stuck. Please help, I really want to get this to work :)
Gotta carefully examine where the lever goes and what it interacts with. Its likely a misalignment or a part interfacing with the lever that's out of place.
Hello again. My KLH Model 11 FM plays great after servicing up with help from your video. Thank You very much. There is only one minor problem I’ve encountered. When player drops record, the unit slows down and sometimes just stops unless I manually turn the turn table. Could this possibly be the Idler ? You mentioned a company called the Voice of Music. If you think that the idler is the possible problem, I will contact the company. Do you know if any other suppliers or do you carry these idlers ? Thanks So Much. Mike N. In California
I would just buy a new cartridge. The majority of old ones are becoming defective. If its a half inch mount a TN8U works great. Buy them from thevoiceofmusic.com
Hello Jordan, I followed your Garrard 3000 service information; great video! But I do have a problem…when I adjust the tone arm to drop correctly on a 33, it won’t pick up at the end. If I adjust it to pick up, then it drops on the stylus brush. There seems to be no happy medium. Also, when I switch to 45 it still drops like it’s a 33. Any help would be appreciated. I’ve had this since 1966. Thanks, John
Seems like the step that guides the tonearm to the proper set down position is worn. You can try adjusting it so it sets down about half way in the lead in groove and carefully bending the tab on the bottom trip piece on the cycling cam towards the slide connected to the tonearm which activates the ENT of play trip. Be careful to Bend it precisely at the bend or the whole trip may bind from distortion or the metal when bending
@@JordanPier it is fitted with Stanton D71EE not sure if this is compliant. Also kindly share Terry’s website or contact info very much appreciate your help
I am going to need to use a heat gun to loosen some of the stuck components, with limited experience of this, would a black and decker heat gun be suitable as I have one of those - sort I would use for stripping paint?
You can use that. Just be careful you don't heat the parts to excess and that you can concentrate heat on the pivots of the stuck parts. You can use a hair dryer too. Just takes longer.
Hi:) i have a garrard model 2000 but there is an issue, i was removing The big screw that hold The tonearm in place but when i screwed it back on The auto return didnt work, any advice?
Something is misaligned. I guessing you didn't mark the position of the arm and keeper when you disassembled? Gonna take some experimentation to get that one right
Hi Jordan thanks for video. Question though? I have it all cleaned put together. The only problem is it starts when i put on auto, record drops then turntable stops and I can't get it going again or it moves very slow. The motor turns with platter off so does the rubber drive pulley and it is soft not rock hard. what am I doing wrong. this happens with every garrard turn table I have tried to fix. Thanks Tim
Needs a new idler wheel. Try cleaning the wheel with isopropyl and the rim of the platter. You can also resurface the wheel edge with 600-1000 grit sandpaper. If temporary improvement or little improvement you'll need to get your idler rebuilt.
Hi Jordan nothing wrong with wheel .. rubber is soft. I have cleaned it with alcohol etc. With platter off I can push against motor spindle and it it moves fine. As soon as platter on that’s when it stops. I’ll send video if you don’t mind?
@@timlazurka8434 trust me. Doesn't matter if the rubber is soft. If the diameter has shrunk even 2mm or the porosity has changed, you'll loose enough traction to stall after the record drop
Dear Sir, I am having this model garratd 3000. The knly problem is yhat ot dies not revolves at 78 rpm speed but other speeds are okay. I diagnosed the problem.The idler wheel drags on one of the motor fitting screws ,in fact if is a E clip of bigger size.When it is raised for other speeds it is perfectly alright.Dor this I have removed the e clip of idler wheel and placed two thin metal rings fitting into the main fitting area of idler wheel.This restored the 78 4pm speed, I ca not show rhis in my commrnts.But , tge e clip of idler wheel can not be fixed there. Kindly advise me to restore the correct speed without fixing two metal rings. Whether this due to the main spring becoming week and unable to drag completely the idler wheel towards motor spindle.
I have the same problem with 33/12 ". Or maybe the engine is too weak due to old age? What to do? In order for it to work well on 33/12", you need to push the plate slightly.
@@jackc7511 No sir ,the engine or to say the motor is not weak if other speeds are okay. Just try to clean the spindle at a height where idler wheel touches the spindle for 33 speed .Clean the edges of the rubber wheel, inside the plater where the idler wheel forces the plater to run that shoukd be cleaned .Clean the spindle with alcohol. Open the cover below the shaft of the motor and put some machine oil on the bearing down below the clip which is the gatekeeper of the bearing down and do not remove the clip there as it may get damaged. No oil to be dropped on the other movable or friction area and specially the rubber of the idler wheel .Wipe out oil if any oil is visible on the idler surface or edge .
@@umeshupadhyay... Thanks for the hint. Unfortunately, I have done all the steps before. They didn't help. A delicate matting of the motor shaft and rubber is also used. I am thinking of replacing the rubber wheel. It looks like the rubber wheel is not tightened enough against the motor shaft. Although the wheel has been thoroughly washed and regenerated in a special silicone - improving its flexibility. . The wheel, at higher revolutions, has a high clamping force because the diameter on the motor shaft is larger and the wheel does not need to be far from the motor shaft. At 33/12 ", this distance is approx. 7 mm longer and the downforce decreases. That is the reason. But what causes it? The springs are not worn. Only the rubber wheel remains. The interesting thing is that you can hear and feel the motor turning, and the platter jams and there is no force to move the wheel that controls the automaton.
@@jackc7511 Dear Sir Replace the idler wheel .If the rubber renew does not help,please replace it atonce. The new material of the idler wheel is very nice for the Garrard 302 model and if you get that in your country then it is well and good because that material will provide the proper grip and friction to run the platter. First you try to see the idler wheel of the Garrart 302 model, it is white or off white in colour .
Garrada had better motors and platters and in the upper market tone arms. than BSR but the auto changer was more complex. I would say a budget BSR is better than a Budget Garrad. In the upper marker Garrads win.
@@jimb032 Trust me, it's a hard G. British company, with connections to Garrard The Jewelers, and every Brit pronounces it correctly, exactly as written, GArrard. Not Gerrard. I don't think I can even think of *any* "GA..." words that ARE pronounced "Je...". Please stop abusing our language 😜
