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How To Set Up A Trading Business (LLC, Trust, Or Corp?) 

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So you want to set up a trading business. That's all well and good, but the question on our mind is if you know how to set up and run a trading business?
You can set up a trading company right now if you wanted, but that's not the issue you should be focusing on. The point of interest should be the steps that come after establishing the business itself.
If you are a business owner, real estate investor, or active investor, please request your free 45-minute strategy consultation with Anderson Business Advisors 👉 aba.link/89v
Toby Mathis is here to delve deeper into the world of trading businesses and what you can do to be the boss of your empire.
Building that long-term wealth and creating something from scratch is time-consuming, so it's best to get started sooner rather than later.
From start to finish, this video has the basics of what you need to start your stock trading business. With each step, Anderson Business Advisors and Toby Mathis are there to help you achieve your dreams.
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0:00 - Intro
1:01 - Definition of a trading business
6:25 - Trader vs. Investor
10:42 - Why people choose trader status
15:39 - Why create an entity
19:43 - Setting up your trading business
24:14 - The power of your c-corp
30:26 - Here is to avoid an audit
36:09 - Short summary
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@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 2 года назад
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@rabbit892004
@rabbit892004 Год назад
I would love for you to help me set this up fam
@michaelleon5629
@michaelleon5629 Год назад
Let's do this when can we meet
@obiomkpanam9472
@obiomkpanam9472 8 месяцев назад
Can you help me set this up
@VijayKumar-td3hx
@VijayKumar-td3hx 2 месяца назад
Are there any limits on numbers of trades per year to treat one as a trading business account?
@user-lz2xf6mm4w
@user-lz2xf6mm4w Месяц назад
Just signed up for the workshop. Thanks much this is right up my ally.
@RicherThanIeverbeen
@RicherThanIeverbeen Год назад
Needed this, thank you!
@pmamba2486
@pmamba2486 Год назад
Thank you so much for this video! So much info! Please do more of these!
@danielchenet6999
@danielchenet6999 2 года назад
So much knowledge! Thank you Sir for sharing all these info, you have gained another subscriber! 👍👍
@organizer14
@organizer14 9 месяцев назад
Excellent and very useful guidance. Thank you very much!
@avatads438
@avatads438 Год назад
I just had to subscribe, such good info was spelled here!
@invictus_1511
@invictus_1511 Год назад
Just the video I needed. Excellent content and clarity
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Год назад
Great to hear, thank you for watching the video!
@13Floresj
@13Floresj Год назад
Thank you!! I’m so glad I found your channel! Very good information!
@kellylisa3939
@kellylisa3939 Год назад
Hello, I have a lot of related knowledge that I don't understand. Can I add your number to WHATSAP to contact you and learn about this wealth of knowledge?
@Regoinvite
@Regoinvite Год назад
Thank you so much for all information. Please continue to publish videos. Thank you.
@holdthebagtogetthebaginves1603
Great video. thank you for the solid information.
@ediem4222
@ediem4222 Год назад
Your videos are so informative. I can't believe you give all this info for free.
@hwnwhaler1
@hwnwhaler1 Год назад
This is the best most detailed explanation I’ve seen. And I’ve watched many. Mahalo nui!!! Subscribed
@Murphys_Law9
@Murphys_Law9 Год назад
Ready to get this journey started.
@michaelhuff7419
@michaelhuff7419 2 месяца назад
I have learned a lot i will watch it again
@pjlifestyle5731
@pjlifestyle5731 2 года назад
My man! I’m 23 and I decided to pursue to be a day trader and I’ve been trying to find a clear video about this. It definitely helped a lot! Thank you so much 🙏🏽
@adrianapollyon5087
@adrianapollyon5087 Год назад
Are you part of the 95% or the 5%?
@stponyt
@stponyt Год назад
im 20 n this vid is amazing
@JamesSmith-ct8kw
@JamesSmith-ct8kw Год назад
straight up!
@badazzl5oc625
@badazzl5oc625 Год назад
I’m 31 and in the same boat good luck to us all! We got this!
@theslowsimracer6168
@theslowsimracer6168 Год назад
Damn I’m 23 too. now I make all this money and I’m just trying to figure out how to maximize it lol.
@8kwara
@8kwara Год назад
Thank you so much for the most simple breakdown on this topic !
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Год назад
Thank you for watching our content!
@seojimjames
@seojimjames 10 месяцев назад
Brilliant Advice, Thanks Toby.
@yazminfrances
@yazminfrances Месяц назад
top tier content - thank you!
@luckysouljah
@luckysouljah Год назад
Awesome video my brother thank you. Truly appreciate it🍀💚🏁
@holdingthings1001
@holdingthings1001 2 года назад
I clapped for you. Excellent work.
@derrickswims
@derrickswims 2 месяца назад
Toby this was solid!!! Wow, very well explained. I loved the description of the structure versus the Trader status.
@alliesteamc3546
@alliesteamc3546 Год назад
Thank you for your educational contributions! You are a modern hero teacher!
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Год назад
Wow, thank you! We appreciate viewers like you taking the time to watch our content!
@kennethgrayer2271
@kennethgrayer2271 Год назад
Brother thank you so much. Very helpful Happy Holidays and God Bless
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Год назад
Happy holidays to you too Kenneth! Thank you for watching our content.
@justincutts9529
@justincutts9529 Год назад
Great video and easy to understand.
@bruhmode283
@bruhmode283 2 года назад
Thank you for making this video this was one of the most informing and easy for me to understand. I greatly appreciate it.
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 2 года назад
Glad it was helpful, thank you for watching!
@lfraser6376
@lfraser6376 Год назад
Thanks so much! Any info about the do's and don't of a Trading Corporation are much appreciated!
@paulpassarelli3001
@paulpassarelli3001 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for your time in making this.
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 8 месяцев назад
My pleasure! Thank you for watching.
@rockroll7649
@rockroll7649 Год назад
The reason for the "95% lose money" metric is because most beginning traders blow out an account, give up, and walk away. I blew out 2 accounts my first 3 years in the business. Trading is a difficult business and traders can expect to lose money for the first couple of years. Being a good technical analyst is not good enough. Traders need to understand the behavior of the market they are trading in.
@khafreahmose8768
@khafreahmose8768 22 дня назад
They also have to conquer their own psychological idiosyncrasies which I think is the most common reason most traders are not profitable.
@domzilla89
@domzilla89 2 месяца назад
Awesome information! Thank you for taking time out to share!
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 2 месяца назад
Glad it was helpful!
@organizer14
@organizer14 5 месяцев назад
Yes extremely useful, many thanks!
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 5 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@mc68hc916
@mc68hc916 Год назад
Great video; very informative. Two questions; Do the entities need to make a filings with SEC, and is a securities license required of the trader now that trading will be done under an entity?
@STELLASCUTENESS
@STELLASCUTENESS 2 года назад
Precisely what I needed and couldn’t find elsewhere after years of searching! You just got a new customer!
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 2 года назад
Please let us know if you need anything!
@Tealeafsong
@Tealeafsong Год назад
Thank you.
@murphydogprod
@murphydogprod Год назад
Fantastic content here Toby! I've been subscribed and really enjoy the way you break these topics down. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.
@murphydogprod
@murphydogprod Год назад
Spoke with a person at Anderson today with a followup next week to talk about this sort of thing. Good stuff.
@arstein30
@arstein30 Год назад
Thanks Toby, great video as always. For the trading account in the Partnership, does it need to meet any specific trading requirements like the active trader does? (e.g. number or frequency of trades?) And after I make guaranteed payment to partner, how is any remaining profits in the trading account taxed? Short term Capital Gains on 1040 schedule D?
@lorraineevans351
@lorraineevans351 Год назад
Amazing information thanks! I’m a travel RN with real estate investing on the side. Would love any videos on those topics
@tradingmompreneur
@tradingmompreneur Год назад
Thank you so much for this information.
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Год назад
You are so welcome! Thank you for watching the video!
@brucebramblett8807
@brucebramblett8807 2 года назад
I have been looking for content on how to set up what I need properly. Toby knocked this out of the park. I have had accountants that couldn't get passed the notion of someone making a living trading. Yep very small % of people make it. I have after many years of studying and struggling have been able to do this. My question is, can a individual trader back file earnings after opening a business structure for trading? I have no interest in filing as a "trader"
@pp-8829
@pp-8829 7 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@xxxnonamexxx5615
@xxxnonamexxx5615 9 месяцев назад
I think this may be the most important video for traders to watch. I watched it twice just to get the concepts. It certainly changed my view about becoming a day trader and most importantly it showed me about the potential liability of losing all your hard earned money. Thanks Toby you’re brilliant!
@Monstars_OBG
@Monstars_OBG 2 месяца назад
Do you trade by yourself or within a community?
@stevenpower1804
@stevenpower1804 Год назад
Excellent information. Thanks for sharing!
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Год назад
Our pleasure! Thank you for watching!
@danielclayton7524
@danielclayton7524 Год назад
Thanks so much. Great video.
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Год назад
Thank you for watching!
@jiafei1821
@jiafei1821 3 месяца назад
thank you so much for sharing this information. It's very helpful!
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 3 месяца назад
Glad it was helpful!
@klwiseman23
@klwiseman23 2 года назад
Hi Toby, Thank you for sharing your knowledge.....It's invaluable! I have one question regarding the Management Company set-up in a Trading Business. Once I set up the C-Corp would I be allowed to manage all the activities (not receive a salary just claim expenses) or do I need to hire a license firm like Fidelity or T Rowe Price?
@globalgogetter4469
@globalgogetter4469 Год назад
Good one Tobe!👍🏿
@sears62
@sears62 2 года назад
Thanks for doing this video
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 2 года назад
Our pleasure, thank you for watching!
@organizer14
@organizer14 9 месяцев назад
Very practical high value solve important problem, many thanks!!!!
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 9 месяцев назад
Glad to hear that!
@jjennifer321
@jjennifer321 2 года назад
Very informative and really helped me to plan. I really appreciate you for the video. Would you please do another video on how to transfer your personal brokerage account(s) to the trading partnership and the tax consequences?
@rainbowshulacorns3666
@rainbowshulacorns3666 Год назад
Please
@PaulBrawl-lc7gz
@PaulBrawl-lc7gz Год назад
So far investor sounds better than trader due to the points you made my man, thank you.
@jerontownsend5903
@jerontownsend5903 Год назад
Great info...I appreciate the nuggets
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Год назад
Thank you, let us know if you have any questions!
@julianrestrepo3050
@julianrestrepo3050 Год назад
Awesome! My friends at Anderson Advisors are helping me do this. Thank you.
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Год назад
Excellent! Thank you for watching our content.
@obiomkpanam9472
@obiomkpanam9472 8 месяцев назад
Am new into trading, would likely want to watch this again.
@tripham8817
@tripham8817 Месяц назад
Wonderful video! Thank you so much for putting this out there.
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Месяц назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@josephwatson6002
@josephwatson6002 Год назад
This is great, thank you!
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Год назад
Glad you liked it!
@oceanwonders
@oceanwonders Год назад
Such valuable content!!!
@kellylisa3939
@kellylisa3939 Год назад
Hello, I have a lot of related knowledge that I don't understand. Can I add your number to WHATSAP to contact you and learn about this wealth of knowledge?
@aurelius7435
@aurelius7435 Год назад
Very informative and very well explained, thank you. Question: At 16:37, you allude to strategies for maximizing the underwriting value of rental income by having it appear as K-1 income, on the second page of Schedule E. Do you elaborate on the this setup and technique in any of your other videos or writings?
@organizer14
@organizer14 5 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for brilliant insights on how to structure etc.
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 5 месяцев назад
I'm glad you found the insights helpful!
@thefirm9679
@thefirm9679 2 года назад
Fantastic Meaningful Content, Thanks Toby And You Have A New Sub And Thumbs Up
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 2 года назад
Welcome aboard! Thank you for joining the community!
@streamingaccess4719
@streamingaccess4719 2 года назад
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you 😘
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 2 года назад
Thank you too!
@baxoutthebox5682
@baxoutthebox5682 Год назад
Toby is truly the GOAT, proud to be an Anderson Client
@javadghandi
@javadghandi Месяц назад
Thanks a million for all the info. You are a real pro . I will stay in touch ...
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Месяц назад
I appreciate that!
@HectorCondis
@HectorCondis Год назад
Thank you Very helpful
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Год назад
Always welcome, thank you for watching!
@OMZCapital
@OMZCapital 2 года назад
Absolutely the BEST I have ever heard! Thanks, Toby for taking the time to explain this in detail! 😃
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 2 года назад
We are glad that you found the video helpful!
@Nico-jt4jd
@Nico-jt4jd 2 года назад
Toby, you’re my new best friend. Thank you for this video.
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 2 года назад
Any time, thank you for being a viewer!
@J3Trad3s
@J3Trad3s 3 месяца назад
This was great info Toby. Thank you so much! The way you explain and the examples you gave..made it easy to comprehend and proves your knowledge and experience in the field. Thanks for taking the time to share the info 👍
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 3 месяца назад
Glad it was helpful!
@vincentanguoni8938
@vincentanguoni8938 2 года назад
It's not just what you make.. Its how much you keep!!!
@gennytrickett1580
@gennytrickett1580 Год назад
Love your videos…
@javiercolon9382
@javiercolon9382 Год назад
Thanks for the video!
@kellylisa3939
@kellylisa3939 Год назад
Hello, I have a lot of related knowledge that I don't understand. Can I add your number to WHATSAP to contact you and learn about this wealth of knowledge?
@christianhnilicka19
@christianhnilicka19 Год назад
Fist time watching one of your videos. You have definitely locked in another regular viewer and thank you for the wisdom. Quick question: In your example the brokerage account it attached directly to the management LLC. Is it wise to set up a separate LLC for trading specifically that is housed under a separate asset management LLC. What Im wondering is if there are benefits to doing this or would it complicate or limit the deductions available? Mabey you already have another video about this.
@bradroberts
@bradroberts 11 месяцев назад
Great info
@Jay-es3vm
@Jay-es3vm 9 месяцев назад
Very informative! Thank you so much! I've been focusing on what it takes for TTS, and this video provides a viable alternative!
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 9 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
@vennapusa7
@vennapusa7 Месяц назад
Awsome explanation, This is very useful to me. Thank you so much once again
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Месяц назад
Glad it was helpful!
@thomasd8888
@thomasd8888 24 дня назад
You're a life savior. Thank you so much.
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 24 дня назад
I'm glad I could help!
@reginaldpayne6221
@reginaldpayne6221 Год назад
Great content
@michaelmolina5742
@michaelmolina5742 6 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for this content
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 6 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoy it!
@johnyc.8714
@johnyc.8714 Месяц назад
this is exactly what im looking for! thank you mr mathis !! i will def hit you up when im ready fo this adventure
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Месяц назад
Awesome to hear that you found what you were looking for
@JG-sg7yy
@JG-sg7yy Год назад
Amazing video Toby. I'm curious about the following: (1) not a day trader but more often than not will hold stock for under a year (2) don't want to hold stock in an individual account since holding period is considered short term gains (3) would electing for to be taxed as a C-Corp instead of just LLC as a pass thru be better since C-Corp are lower than the short term gains bracket?
@xox0xx
@xox0xx Год назад
WOW! GREAT INFO
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@adrienpetersen
@adrienpetersen Год назад
Would love to see more videos around trading businesses.
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Год назад
We will take your suggestion into consideration, thank you for watching the channel.
@vincentanguoni8938
@vincentanguoni8938 2 года назад
I like how he talks about creating something.. I built beautiful small homes.. I renovated and sometimes saved old homes.. Today its called flipping.. I was no flipper... I like this guy!!!
@jacobsin6085
@jacobsin6085 3 месяца назад
Thank you Tony, you got new subscribers, and I have share your RU-vid to my friends and family.
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 3 месяца назад
Awesome, thank you!
@mikeallen6988
@mikeallen6988 2 года назад
Beautiful
@NasdaqSniper_
@NasdaqSniper_ 5 месяцев назад
Futures day trader here. Subscribed.
@user-rh2nn3tl9J
@user-rh2nn3tl9J Год назад
Wow this is go to man. Nailed it. Thanks Toby!
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Год назад
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
@kellylisa3939
@kellylisa3939 Год назад
Hello, I have a lot of related knowledge that I don't understand. Can I add your number to WHATSAP to contact you and learn about this wealth of knowledge?
@ronniec8370
@ronniec8370 Год назад
so LLC is the best, got it...thanks...
@weddingdancemadesimple
@weddingdancemadesimple Год назад
Awesome
@frankmiller9550
@frankmiller9550 2 года назад
would you provide a worksheet that shows the steps for setting up a Wyoming LLC and moving assets into it.
@kylegirdler1882
@kylegirdler1882 Год назад
I started a business last year and it didn’t even get off the ground because I realized I was just trying to do something that I didn’t want to do. I’m very passionate about trading and have had a great deal of success I plan to make a structure like this probably at the beginning of next year. I will be contacting to find out more info thanks for the great ideas
@Flandria55
@Flandria55 Год назад
Very well explained from the tax perspective. I wish some info was given on the llc , which might be subject to the regulations of The Investment advisor act. The llp might be subject to the Investment company act.😕
@infraaa_
@infraaa_ 4 месяца назад
At first I was skeptical how helpful this would be. Then he started talking about data flow being able to be deducted and that got my attention. THEN he started talking about writing covered calls, and I realized 'this guy really knows his stuff'
@bostonredsox1407
@bostonredsox1407 Год назад
Notes to Self: 1. Stock market only? (What about forex?) 2. Trader not an investor because you are making a living off the risks and for 75% of the year. Min. 180 days. About 4 trades a day. 3. Trading continuously.... 4. Holding period is less than 30 days. 5. Write off computer, internet, phone, cost of data, whatever I am using in my trading, etc. As an investor you can't write off those things. 6. Schedule D for trader and investor status. Expenses on Schedule C. 7. Losses can be written off up to $8000. Use losses against capital gains. Up to $3000 and carry the rest of losses the following year. You need to be active at trading so you can carry losses. 8. MTM election. Not a big fan he says. 9. Trading structure: Create legacy, asset protection, business planning, taxes. 10. Page 2 of schedule E. Partnership. Pay a partner so that it is deductible. Your percentage is the Net. This is a C Corp or a LLC taxed as a C Corp.
@megan8494
@megan8494 Год назад
How do you suggest wording or what "service" should we say we are providing as day traders when applying for a business account? Running into issues getting approved due to me providing "financial services"
@TommyGuichardo
@TommyGuichardo 8 месяцев назад
Great video!
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the visit!
@carollocke9617
@carollocke9617 2 месяца назад
Great information!
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 2 месяца назад
Thanks for watching!
@johnwagenhofferjr1132
@johnwagenhofferjr1132 2 года назад
Just wanted to say thanks. You put out such informative and great content.
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis 2 года назад
Thank you for being part of our amazing community!
@BryonLape
@BryonLape 25 дней назад
Tried setting up an LLC in Ohio years ago. Didn't take long for the State to make be regret it. Closed it the first filing year.
@la_uruguacha
@la_uruguacha Год назад
🙏🙏🙏gracias maestro
@floydhemingway1012
@floydhemingway1012 Год назад
Greetings brother this information was great and very easy to understand. I am going to check out your website and channel. Thanks for great content , God bless you and your family.
@TobyMathis
@TobyMathis Год назад
Greetings Floyd, here is a link to our website andersonadvisors.com/
@prograntsproposals424
@prograntsproposals424 Год назад
I never knew the benefits of having a WY LLC until watching your video. You provide great and thorough information.Thank you!
@kellylisa3939
@kellylisa3939 Год назад
Hello, I have a lot of related knowledge that I don't understand. Can I add your number to WHATSAP to contact you and learn about this wealth of knowledge?
@sydneybird116
@sydneybird116 Год назад
Do you then have two entities: the management company as a c-corp and the "me entity" as a partnership with the c-corp? Is the "me entity" also a c-corp? What document do you use to memorialize the partnership and/or management arrangement.
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