So I'll argue the hydration pouch setup. When I pack this beast, I throw the hydration on the side, and I pack the weight inside the pack to balance it out. With that I throw two canteens either on top or on the back so they aren't really affecting the balance too much. CamelBak runs dry, refill it with the canteens. To each his own and do what works for you. Enjoyed the video.
I've seen that setup work for a lot of guys, its definitely a good option. My main reason for how I do it is I have a padded pouch for a tablet, binocs and a few other things on the lid, as I need to be able to get to those quickly. That, and I don't like 1 quart canteens on my pack. I like bladders, and the collapsible 2 quart canteens in my ruck, with one quarts only on my chest rig and belt, and maybe 2 on my patrol pack. Thanks for the comment.
Now THAT is a squared away rack! That poncho liner is the greatest invention in the world but I still don’t understand why it doesn’t have a head hole. I LOVE the ALICE packs. I once had one get blown off an LAV-AT near AL Qaim Iraq as a Marine Infantryman (0352/51). Everything I owned was Swiss cheese. Ruck shackled on the left front headlight cluster and that’s the tire that hit the mine. It blew that tire off and it made the brake drum look like the hammer of Thor had smashed it flat. Plus it flattened four other wheels and punctured a differential among other things. This was right when the Corps kept switching packs every single year. From the Alice in MCRD to the MOLEE then the ILBE or whatever that abortion was. I always just deployed with the ALICE and never had any regrets. It was just a hands down better design. In LAR we needed the metal pack frame to shackle onto the hulls. Even then occasionally you would “throw” or otherwise manage to rip the packs off. But that was the greatest strength of the Alice. It was so modular that you could do anything and if you did manage to really damage it… you could sew or just replace and swap our almost all of it and you were off and running again. I remember using just the frame and straps to haul ammo cans or jerry cans of POL or water using just the frame and waist pad and straps and a small length of 550 cord for lashing. That mine strike pack… i still have it and if I wanted I could have sewn it up and used it. I had a “combat loss” for that ruck… which was on paper the stuff I was issued from the CIF… so… I got to keep all the stuff I left at home for that deployment plus the divisions supply gave me a whole bunch of stuff they didn’t even try to get back… lol. I recently just bought this new Marine Ruck from the surplus store. So far I like it. It’s not overly complex. There is a lot of weight in miscelaneous PALS webbing sewn over every inch but I suppose that make it more customizable for various users. I ruck and carry every single piece of food I consume or beverage I drink… I have for years. It really isn’t that hard to get close to the breaking point of this old infantryman with bags of potatos and gallons of milk and OJ and whatever else. When you get close to that 80+ lb range… it becomes misery. It really doesn’t matter what the ruck is from my experience. When you do any substantial distance you soon realize how awesome the internal combustion engine is. Like a Weapons Company march carrying the TOW systems (minus ammo) for a nice 15 K up the Mountains. It’s an acquired misery that only a few will ever really truly know and love or accept. Like the Corps in General. CHEERS and Semper Fi
Soldier here I have been looking at investing into a Filbe system because it works works our equipment as well and I always hated the plastic frame our large rucks so thanks for showing me that my old Alice frame will work if I get a filbe
I know the ice plate wasn't around 3 years ago, but I run the FILBE pack's main bag on a tactical tailor MALICE frame and that gives me room to run a Qore Performance Iceplate (1.5L hard case for water that matches the profile of a medium ESAPI) integrated between the rails on the frame so I have water that won't burst close to my body that's gonna help cool my body if I fill it with cold water/freeze it or heat my body if I fill it with hot water
When I was serving in the Corp's we were issued the ALICE pack, medium ALICE. To this day I use the Medium ALICE for hunting hiking and camping, and it is currently my BOB. I purchased a used surplus FILBE ruck, I tryed the ILBE I did not like it. I like the features of the FILBE alot, kind of an ALICE 2.0. I just do not like the color, my FILBE is currently sitting on an ALICE frame, and my harness is the London Bridge Trading's harness system, which oddly came out long before the FILBE but works well like it was designed to work with the FILBE ruck. The FILBE will turn colors in my ownership to a woodland pattern, arousal dye overhaul. The Lond Bridge Trading suspension system is the {LBT 2168A Pad enhancement suspension system.} it has to pouches built into is for what I suspect are for water bladders, its very well padded and like I stated, works like was designed for the FILBE. So well infact, I"am thinking of ways to use the suspension harness and the FILBE without a frame, if I can. I did a a 8 mile walk with it on, and I had no hot spots on my shoulder or my back or around my waist. It was almost like wearing a coat.
Guess I’ll have no idea how much weight the grunts actually have to carry. I was a winger, so back in boot camp and in MCT in 2006 we were one of the first ones to the use the ILBE pack. I only remember 2 1 quart canteens with Alice clips on the old school belt, and I think maybe 2 more on the sides of the pack. Didn’t even have to worry about tents and ammo.
I'm about 200 pounds and I once weighed myself with everything for a 5 day outting, kit and pack, and was about 350ish pounds with all the shit. Granted that was no resupply, so a lot of water weight, as well as an aid bag.
@@Wandering_Grunt looking forward to when you go over them. Thinking I'll get a fair bit out of what you do with these. Probably need to incorporate a few of the things you pointed out in this video. Malice frame might be in my future
How did you attach the bottom of the ruck to the Alice frame? My filbe straps are too short to attach the normal way that an Alice ruck attaches to the frame.
The bottom set of compression straps get girth hitched to the bottom of the frame (where the shelf for the ALICE frame would sit) and then routed through the webbing along the bottom of the pack to make the straps that will typically hold your sleeping mat/tarp/tent. Creates a stable load when straps are secured nice and tight.
A lot. Around 110-115 pounds. I typically don't weigh out my packs though. Pounds are arbitrary. Take what you need and cut weight off where you can. For physical conditioning i will load barbell plates in the radio pouch. I keep it between 55-70 pounds dry, depending on the physical evolution.
