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How to Set Your Gains Using Ohms Law and a Basic Multimeter 

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Setting your gains properly with a multimeter is easier than you might think. The gain adjustment control on an amplifier is commonly misunderstood as a volume knob. However, it is supposed to be used to level match the output voltage of the head unit to the gain of the amplifier so the input signal isn't "clipping" causing distortion and potentially damaging your speakers.

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@85jmccoy
@85jmccoy 3 года назад
I've watched multiple videos and read multiple articles on this and this video by far was the easiest to understand and I've played around with my settings bass boost all that even using an ocillascope....but tuning my amp exactly the way y'all have directed in this video just using a dmm made my system sound 10 times better.
@patrickpool4410
@patrickpool4410 3 года назад
Yes your right seen millions of videos and this was straight to the point and looks possible to anybody can do it
@ronnydisalvo80
@ronnydisalvo80 3 года назад
I running 2 1500rms subs at half ohm..so id.go.1500x.5=750×2subs=1500 and the square rt of 1500=38...so.38volts is my number..
@85jmccoy
@85jmccoy 3 года назад
@@ronnydisalvo80 no sir you have to use the rated rms output number of your amp....so say your amp is rated at 2000 rms at .5 ohm....multiply 2000 by .5 and find the square root with is approx 31.62.....
@85jmccoy
@85jmccoy 3 года назад
@@ronnydisalvo80 you have 2 subs wired in a way that gives you .5 ohm load
@tonycervantes4816
@tonycervantes4816 2 года назад
@@ronnydisalvo80 so how can I do that on mine bro ..??
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 9 лет назад
@Alex Villanueva - However you plan to wire the subwoofer(s) to the amplifier. If you are wiring two subs down to a final impedance of 2ohms, you would use two ohms for "R". If you are wiring one DVC sub down to 1ohm, you would use one ohm for "R".
@Rizz1117
@Rizz1117 9 лет назад
I have 2 dual voice coil 4 ohm subs running parallel at 1 ohm and they are 1000 watts rms per sub. My amp is 3700 watts rms @ 1 ohm. Will that be to much for the subs to handle? When I do the math do I add the rms wattage of both subs together? After setting everything to 0 then raise the gain till I get my target voltage when I then turn up the bass boost and LPF the voltage goes up. Is that ok?
@samhan7048
@samhan7048 8 лет назад
+Rizz1117 your amp is a bit too much for those speakers.
@ARogers
@ARogers 8 лет назад
+Rizz1117 Between the RMS power of your subs and your amp, you'll go with the lowest one if they are not equal. So you would go with 2000 RMS for the 2 subs so you over power and blow them. You would want to target your AC voltage at 44.72 volts
@DubPeezy
@DubPeezy 4 года назад
I went to an audio shop to install a five channel and they were good “installers” but were not technical.had no clue how to properly set the gains on the amp and lc7i. had the levels up way too high. Took my multimeter and set properly using the technique in this video since I don’t have a SMD 2. Thanks.
@limitless2040
@limitless2040 4 года назад
I have a Orion hcca 12" dvc 2 ohm. I have it wired down to 1 ohm. When I do this formula do I use the final impedance 1 ohm or the 2 ohm to plug into this equation?
@HariKrishnan-jl4hm
@HariKrishnan-jl4hm 3 года назад
Thanks for the video I have 2 Doubts 1. , can you explain what should be the positions of HPF & LPF, switches while doing the gain setting for speakers and subwoofers In a 4 channel amp. 2. In every videos in RU-vid regarding the gain setting , they are using RCA input.. is that mandatory.. ?? What would happen if I use speaker level input instead of RCA while doing the Gain setting...
@bobsmithinson2050
@bobsmithinson2050 5 лет назад
STRAIGHT TO THE DAMN POINT!
@delusansanthiapillai
@delusansanthiapillai 3 месяца назад
Excellent video I just have one question when your playing the 50hrtz do you keep your bass and treble settings on the head unit or do you zero everything out
@yourehating9406
@yourehating9406 9 лет назад
to start my amplifier claims to be rated 1400rms at 1 ohm. massive n3 nano block amp. I wired my dual 2 ohm subwoofer down to 1 ohm load a rockford t2 12 1200rms.. how do I match my amp to this sub. my desired rms is 1200.. if 1200 x 1 ohm is still 1200. and the square root of 1200 is 34.64 .. is that correct or did I just go wrong I'm lost plz help
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 9 лет назад
+You're Hating You got it. So you would connect your multimeter (on the voltage setting) to the speaker outputs of your amplifier and while playing a 50Hz (or appropriate frequency) tone, adjust the gain setting until you get to around 34.64 volts of output.
@yourehating9406
@yourehating9406 9 лет назад
thank you for you video it was helpful.. I added some of the bass boss halve ways and turn down the lpf just a tad under the gain and the subsonic just a lil bit up like 1/16 of an inch and finally no more distortion thank for the help
@madisyn6745
@madisyn6745 Год назад
My amp has both a gain control and master level. When doing this where should the master be set? If it's all the way down there's no output at all no matter where the gain is set. Should it be all the way up and set the gain based around that level? Or find some balance between the two? The amp is a Jensen xda91rb. Also worth mentioning that there's no controls on the amp. Everything's controlled through an app via Bluetooth
@_takeit3z
@_takeit3z 2 года назад
Is that a tnp212d2 or tnp212dv? I have the dv paired with mtx tna500d. Are they the same?
@leiknespower
@leiknespower 9 лет назад
Hi. I'm quite new to this car stereo life, but I have a few questions about the equation. I have the amplifier Orion CB.5000.1D which puts out 2500wRMS at 1 ohm. The sub(s) I'm using are JBL GTi 1200 which can handle 600wRMS (4 ohm). My questions are; in the equation, the variable P (power of amp RMS), should I use 2500(amp) or 600w(sub). The Variable R is that the resistance on the amp(1) or speakers(4)? Thanks for a awesome video, and I apologize for the bad grammar and questions.
@damon323
@damon323 Год назад
Whether you use one speaker or 4 speakers, it’s all the same. Only difference is, when it’s more than one speaker, they will share the same power unless each speaker is rated at a different ohm(resistance).
@travisaeschliman1078
@travisaeschliman1078 10 лет назад
Thanks for the video. I'm still hung up on the R term, it seems like I've read conflicting info on the web. I have a single 10" 4-ohm DVC subwoofer that is rated for 300W RMS. I have a mono amplifier that outputs 300W @ 4 ohms or 500W @ 2 ohms. When I calculate V = (P*R)^0.5, I am using R = 2, since while my subwoofer is a 4 ohm model, because of the wiring and single subwoofer it puts a 2 ohm load on the amplifier. If I set P = 300W, I then get a target V = 24.5 volts. Does this seem correct? Because some other info I have come across seem to indicate that in my setup R = 4, in which case my target V = 34.6 volts! Thanks!
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 10 лет назад
You would use whatever impedance your subwoofer is wired to so if you have wired your DVC 4ohm sub down to 2ohms, R would = 2
@travisaeschliman1078
@travisaeschliman1078 10 лет назад
***** Gotcha, thanks!
@marcusaurelius2988
@marcusaurelius2988 3 года назад
If the subwoofer 4 ohm but it is bridged , ohm is cut in half. İn this case we calculate by multiplying RMS by 2 instead of 4 ohm , correct?
@chrisd5758
@chrisd5758 3 года назад
Yes
@chrisd5758
@chrisd5758 3 года назад
I have two dual 4 ohm 10 inch AB XRs I have them wired down to 1 ohm for my skar rp2k1d amp so you use what your amp is rated to not the subs
@devinkrier6296
@devinkrier6296 Год назад
Will doing this hurt my door speakers? I can’t really unhook those
@bryantwashington5162
@bryantwashington5162 10 лет назад
Hello. I like this video and it helped me a lot. I have a question. I have 2 Kenwood Excelon KFC-XW10 10" 4-ohm subwoofers 300 watt rms, 1 Kenwood KAC-5001PS 500 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms 300 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms. what would be the best way to wire this up. Just use 1 sub at 2 ohms, use both subs at 4 ohms. I was advised you cannot run 2 dvc 4 ohm subs to a 2 ohm load is this true?
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 10 лет назад
Bryant, thanks for your message. If your subs are single voice coil, 4-ohm subwoofers, you can wire them down to a 2ohm final impedance at the amplifier. This would send all 500 watts from your amplifier to your subwoofers which have a combined RMS power handling of 600 watts. If you would like a diagram on how to wire your subwoofers to a 2ohm load, go here - www.mtx.com/t/library-wiring-diagrams If your subs are dual 4ohm voice coil, you cannot wire them to a final impedance of 2ohms.
@bryantwashington5162
@bryantwashington5162 10 лет назад
They are dvc subs what would be the best way to wire it
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 10 лет назад
Bryant Washington The best way to wire your subs depends on the ratings of the amplifier you are going to connect them to. For example, with your current Kenwood amp, there really is no good way. You would either have to wire them to an impedance the amp is not stable at in order to get enough power to the subs or you would have to wire to a higher impedance that wouldn't give your subs enough power. With two 4ohm, dual voice coil subs, you can wire to 1ohm or 4ohms at the amp. With two 4ohm, single voice coil subs, you can wire to 2ohms or 8ohms at the amp. With two 2ohm, dual voice coil subs, you can wire to 2ohms or 0.5ohms (not recommended) at the amp. With two 2ohm, single voice coil subs, you can wire to 1ohm or 4ohms at the amp. Then you would need to find an amplifier that has an RMS power rating of as close to the combined power handling of your subwoofers (2 subs with a 500 watt RMS power handing would be 1,000 watts total) at whatever impedance you plan to wire them at. www.mtx.com/t/library-wiring-diagrams
@Mjuszko
@Mjuszko 10 лет назад
what if you parallel one sub ,series the other sub ...and then parallel both subs ...??? Would that be 3 ohms ??
@TheJazzhandz
@TheJazzhandz 10 лет назад
i used ohms law w/ Rms wattage of 600 x 2ohms square root that i got 34.64 i turned all my filters off turned my LPF all the way up and my head unit to 75% which from 50 is 37.5. the number i was getting w/ the gain all the way up was 20 or so. and i was playing a 50hz sine wave. What do i do i can't get to that number with the level knob.
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 10 лет назад
What kind of amp are you working with? What is the model # if you have it?
@alvaroreyes8110
@alvaroreyes8110 5 лет назад
can i apply this formula to normal speakers instead of a sub?
@TiomaSound
@TiomaSound 9 лет назад
Hi, great video. I'm trying to setup my system, here's what I have: Amp 900 RMS at 2 Ohm and Sub dual coil 350 RMS wired for 2 Ohm. My question is what should I use for P 900 or 350. Thank you.
@TiomaSound
@TiomaSound 9 лет назад
I forgot to mention that I also use Audio Control LC2I converter.
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 9 лет назад
You would use the RMS power rating of your amplifier which would be 900 watts.
@snowmobileracer69
@snowmobileracer69 9 лет назад
***** Huh? Then you would be tuning to give 900 watts RMS to a speaker that's only rated for 350 RMS at 2 ohm. My understanding is you should only be tuning to what the sub can handle...which would mean the opposite of what you recommended. So if the sub is rated for 350 RMS @ 2 ohm the target would/should be 26.46 volts, right? That or I'm completely misunderstanding how this works, which is possible....
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 9 лет назад
snowmobileracer69 Sorry... I may have misunderstood the original situation. IF the amp is rated at 900 watts RMS at 2ohms and Artem Alforov has 1 subwoofer rated for 350 watts RMS and that is wired for 2ohms, he would use 350 for P in the equation. However, I would recommend trying to find a different rating and impedance that would more closely align with the subwoofers RMS rating. For example, MAYBE the amplifier is rated at 450 watts at 4ohms. IF the subwoofer is capable of being wired to a 4ohm impedance, this would be a better match. Without knowing the exact specs of the products, it's hard to say what the best possible setup would be. Sorry for the confusion.
@jeffreycattelino3996
@jeffreycattelino3996 5 лет назад
26.45 is your target volts 350 watts rms x 2 for 2 Ω =700 square root 26.45
@Flightguy323
@Flightguy323 7 лет назад
I have tried all methods of tuning but nothing works to me as well as tuning by music, but I do not like that method because it's not precise. I currently have a 12" Alpine Type S on 2 Ohms in a ported box that's tuned to 32Hz being powered by a JL Audio Slash 500/1. I'm wondering, would it be better if I played a 32Hz test tone, tuned it by ear and then record the maximum UNCLIPPED voltage and then play various music and increase the gain until I reach that voltage I achieved at 32Hz? I'm wondering becuase the 50Hz method does not work well for me at all, when I tune it using this method and clamp my amplifier the maximum I see is 250-300 Watts RMS @40Hz when I should be seeing 500 Watts RMS. It also doesn't feel like 500 Watts using the Ohms Law method.
@myshots101
@myshots101 10 лет назад
Great video. I know this is an older video but why use AC and not DC? I thought DC is what you normally use with cars? I need to tune a set of components and want to try this method to set the voltage on the front speakers as that is all I have and I just installed an amp. Okay it's late and I just realized we are on the speaker side and not the power side of the amp and we want to measure the sine wave...well correct me if I'm wrong. I just wanted to clear this up. Thanks.
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 10 лет назад
DC voltage is what the battery of the vehicle has but the output power from the amplifier is AC. Yes. We are using the gain to level adjust the input signal (varies depending on the head unit) so that the amplifier can send the best possible audio signal to the speakers. Be sure to use an appropriate frequency for your test disc depending on what type of speakers you have connected to the amplifier you are tuning. This video references 50Hz because the amp is connected to subwoofers. For component speakers, you would use a high frequency test disc. Refer to your speaker's specs.
@myshots101
@myshots101 10 лет назад
***** I finally got around to playing with this and I tried setting up the gain but wasn't getting anything without any volume and with the radio on the numbers just jump up and down. So I need to make a tone mp3 or wav file in audacity. The crossover is fixed at 3800 Hz, 6/12 dB/octave and the other number for the woofer is 55-3200 Hz. I have MBQuart DSh 213 components. In something like this, what tone would I need to use? I'm just trying to walk through the whole process to understand how to tune something like this correctly. Do I just need to make a 3200 Hz tone and use that to tune the set? I guess since there's a tweeter, that's confusing me a bit since both are considered channel one for one door and channel 2 for the other. I unplugged them just like you did. Cool stuff by the way, but it's not quite the same watching and actually doing it since I have never done this, but I'm learning.
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 10 лет назад
You can download test tones from MTX.com at www.mtx.com/t/testtones. For an amplifier that you are using to power full range speakers, you can use a 1kHz test tone.
@myshots101
@myshots101 10 лет назад
***** Thanks!. I ended up making a few tones and tried using the 3200 tone and noticed that the gain at the lowest was 16 something volts! So I changed to the 1Khz and I got the number exactly matched to the speakers. To make the tones I only changed the Hz in audacity and nothing else. I also just saved as a windows file and that seemed to work. Channel one and channel 2 have the same gain dial so I only used that. Looking at your link, you have a left and right channel tone. When do you use those? I only ask since my gain says ch1/2 on it. So I just used the left channel to change the voltage on it. I figured it would be for both sides since the ch3/4 have their own dial, and so does the sub. Man, this is pretty neat once you get it working. Now I have an LP filter dial that goes from 50 to 200 Hz, I guess this is for the subs which I don't have any. Except for ch1/2, all my other dials are pretty much turned all the way down since I don't have anything else plugged in.
@jorgecano4594
@jorgecano4594 4 года назад
I have an amplifier 1800 watts and two 12 speakers 4 ohms each should i calculate by time 4 or times 8?
@WhereAmEye2187
@WhereAmEye2187 4 года назад
Depends if you're going to wire them in parallel or in series. In series your total ohms would be 8. In parallel your total ohms would be 2.
@certisteppa136
@certisteppa136 Год назад
Just wanna make sure I’m doing this right I have 2 subwoofers 300 watts each side so total 600 watts and I’m doing 2 ohms so would I do 300 x 2 or 600 x 2
@uncletom0734
@uncletom0734 Месяц назад
I know this is an old vid, but how do you replicate your ohm load while checking the voltage? If the amp doesnt currently see the right ohm load, how could you possibly set the gain accurately? Lastly, what about box rise, aka ohm rise? Whatever you wire your speakers to will rise while you use them. This method doesn't work.
@handon11
@handon11 3 года назад
This may be a dumb question and forgive me if so, but my understanding is that setting the gain with pretty much everything flat puts your amp right below clipping or distortion? So you're really not supposed to use "bass boost" nor tune the bass frequencies up when you go to equalize, or turn your subwoofer level on the HU up any afterwards? What you set your gain to is effectively as high as you can go with output? Not sure if I understand
@bryan3327
@bryan3327 3 года назад
I’m an intermediate installer learning how to install my first setup and from everything I have watched and learned setting the gain at the exact level with a multimeter is the best way because the amp will not go above that voltage limit and potentially damage the sub with too much power, and I have also read that on your head unit the LPF, if you have one should be off and any bass levels should be flat. Bass boost is not a volume control and I would leave it at 0 on the HU and amp as the gain is already transmitting the maximum performance range that the sub can get to so you’re not missing out on that much power. So to sum it up, the gain, at the correct level, will provide for the best and maximum performance out of your sub without going past the voltage that would potentially blow or damage your sub. Set your LPF and Subsonic filtering as necessary, the standards are LPF at about 80 and subsonic at about 35 but that depends on if you have a ported or sealed box which there are videos that better explain that.
@handon11
@handon11 3 года назад
@@bryan3327 this is what I was looking for and answered my question thoroughly! Thank you so much!
@bryan3327
@bryan3327 3 года назад
@@handon11 No worries! I had the same concern as well being a noobie and trying to install a sub on my own and after one blown voice coil it has definitely been a learning experience so I’m glad I could help!
@BkHitmarker
@BkHitmarker 11 лет назад
Why do you use a CD with 50hz? i'm trying to do this with all my components in the car already, and my head unit is connected to my amp and my regular car speakers. Any suggestions? I'm thinking i will disconnect the car speakers from the head unit so i can turn the volume all the way up with out waking my neighbors.
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 10 лет назад
We use a 50Hz tone because that is a common frequency range for most music. For your speakers, you would use a frequency that is somewhere in the frequency response range of their specs. For example, you wouldn't use 50Hz if the speakers have a frequency response of 75Hz to 20kHz. You would want to disconnect your subwoofers to set the gain on the amp that powers your speakers. Once that is done, disconnect your speakers from their amp, reconnect your subwoofers to their amp, and set the gain on that amp using an appropriate tone. Hope this helps.
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 10 лет назад
Keep in mind we are setting up a subwoofer amp and subwoofers play lower frequencies than speakers so a 50 Hz tone is good for subwoofers but would not be good for speakers. For speakers you would want something more like a 1kHz tone.
@blairefrost4841
@blairefrost4841 5 лет назад
@@MTXAudioUSA Thanks for the informative video and answering all these questions that I've had myself. Much appreciated!
@djnaughtybass
@djnaughtybass 11 месяцев назад
Im using a skar audio 800.1 and I'm running 600 at 2 ohms and the square root is 34.4 but my amps voltage on the gain only goes up to 27 so idk what I should set it at.
@audiogman5865
@audiogman5865 5 лет назад
Most head units DO NOT output a clean undistorted signal at full volume. The first step would be to find the volume level at which the head unit puts out the highest UNDISTORTED output. Usually by using a 1kHz tone at a 0dB reference level. You didn’t mention to defeat all tone controls, loudness, DSP, and set the balance and fader at center. Also the way you are demonstrating to set the gains are with 0dB of gain overlap. That wouldn’t sound loud enough. The best compromise for quality/loudness would be a gain overlap of 10dB. That means you would have to set the gain on the amp using a -10dB signal.
@StaticVapour590
@StaticVapour590 4 года назад
If you want balanced system, that 0dB is just fine. Not everyone wants SPL build
@Zzaniy1
@Zzaniy1 3 года назад
what if i dont reach my desired volts on 3/4 head unit volume and max gain ?? i can reach it with for example 55/62 and 3/4 amp gain tho
@murkinmurdock7985
@murkinmurdock7985 5 лет назад
So my sub is wired to 1 ohm So I would do 1000 x 1= 1000 Then square that= 31.6 correct?
@ericsrisavaththay2503
@ericsrisavaththay2503 5 лет назад
If you want your amp to output 1000w and your ohm load is 1, then yes you are correct.
@ryant75
@ryant75 3 года назад
Sorry guys but I have a dumb question.. my gain needs 27.2 volts. My cars alternator puts out 14.4 volts. Do I need caps or an extra battery? Jus running a 800.1d mono and a 10" dvc 2ohm sub (running at 1ohm) amp is 1 ohm stable Stock stereo with added sub for more bass. Using a loc2 and 60amp fuse to battery. Thank you in advance
@ahumm8280
@ahumm8280 5 лет назад
Sweet! 😁 So my 300w mono amp is set at about 17.32 v ac! Thanks!
@trystanauddino5263
@trystanauddino5263 5 лет назад
Hey mate, having trouble, I have: 2x 12" 350w rms Alpine DVC subs (2ohm per coil I believe) 1x MRP-m850 (500w rms at 4ohm, 800w rms at 2ohm) They are wired to 2ohm. I can't get the voltage on the amp to come anywhere close to 40v
@jeffreycattelino3996
@jeffreycattelino3996 5 лет назад
37.41 is your target since your amp is rated higher than your subs you use 350 watts rms x 2 for 2 subs 700 atts rms total x 2 for 2Ω load = 1400 square root =37.41
@meerkhan4404
@meerkhan4404 8 лет назад
very well said fast an easy
@RobHTech
@RobHTech 3 года назад
This is a good way to do it without having the proper equipment. But, what about amperage? What is the speaker output amperage? And, what about the phase of the power output? Because I was watching D'Amore Engineering discussing this topic and how/why this method is inaccurate and why even a clamp meter would be inaccurate. Anybody have any answers?
@ryandrake4748
@ryandrake4748 2 года назад
The audio I do on bikes, obviously wanna higher RMS on your amp than your speaker... I set gains by going by the Voltage x Amp = Wattage. and from there i can adjust to each speaker giving it the exact amount RMS with the radio all the way up so they cannot blow the speakers. LOL
@JayFix68
@JayFix68 3 года назад
If I have a 2800 watt peak amplifier and 2 15 inch 2000 watt subs do I take the rms of the amplifier and cut it in half for each channel or do I do the total rms of the amp
@byrdman1057
@byrdman1057 8 лет назад
I have another question. I hooked up my amp today. I have a alpine mrp m500. When I test for volts on the speaker output I'm not getting anything. I'm reading 12v at the fuse on both sides by the battery. I'm getting 12 volts at the amp and on the remote wire. The amp powers on, But no volts on the speaker terminals. I tried replacing the fuse on the amp it looked blown but still nothing. Is my amp blown? Or is there something I can do? Again, thx for the help! This is the only channel I've gotten any help from... Much appreciated!
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
+frank lucas Are you playing music while testing your speaker terminals? If you are, check to see if your gain is turned all the way down. If that doesn't fix your problem, you either have a signal issue or a bad amp. The amplifier is getting power but may not be getting signal from your head unit which could be a problem with the head unit, the RCA cables, or the amplifier. But if you can test to ensure you are getting signal to the amplifier, that would rule out one more potential issue.
@Superglide03
@Superglide03 5 лет назад
The 12 volts you're getting at the amp is DC. When you test for volts on the speaker output switch your multimeter to read AC volts ...
@samlafiura639
@samlafiura639 3 года назад
how do you determine your target voltage?
@andrewvisiko5250
@andrewvisiko5250 8 лет назад
what would you do if you had two woofers that were 300rms per sub and you wanted a total of 600rms on a 1,000rns amp at a 2ohm load? would you just add 300+300=600. 600•2=1200. √1200=34.64?
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
You got it! Even though your amp is capable of more power, this way you won't overpower the subs and your amp should run nice and cool.
@Zzaniy1
@Zzaniy1 3 года назад
Does this also protect from Clipping?
@MrBooMY3
@MrBooMY3 3 года назад
Yes. If you match the gain to your source it will never clip up to the max volume on the radio. Some radios clip internally at higher volume so you have to figure out at what setting the head unit clips and never turn it up past that. Clipping is basically like shorting out your voice coil out with DC at the top and bottom of the sound waves. Literally HORRIBLE for your speakers.
@AlBaNiAnGaNgStA93
@AlBaNiAnGaNgStA93 4 года назад
I have the skar audio 2000.d amp with skar evl 12d4. It's at 2ohm which amp handles 1400 rms. So its 1400x2 which is 2800rms. Square root of that is 52. Is 52 volts what I need to be at ?? My speaker only handles 1250 at 2ohms and its 50 volts. What do I do?
@califmike2003
@califmike2003 2 года назад
Have a amp 4ohm x 100 watts = 400 sq root = 20v. I have set my multimeter to Ac voltage, no speaker wires in amp, stick the probes from mm into postive and negative speaker holes, and play pink noise track at 75% volume, turn up the gain slowly, im only getting a little over 2v, nowhere near 20v, what am i doing wrong ?
@hector9160
@hector9160 3 года назад
So if I have 2 subwoofer at 2ohm each do I multiply by 1 ohm total??
@mattmo952
@mattmo952 3 года назад
The amount of subwoofers you have doesn't matter.. It's how you wire them and what impedance the amp sees at the end. So if you have two dual two ohm wired to 0.5 ohm then you use 0.5 ohm. If you wire it at 2 ohm then use 2
@mattmo952
@mattmo952 3 года назад
@New Alert That's correct. I'll edit my post
@metaldreams3595
@metaldreams3595 2 года назад
shoot, what if the amp is solely pushing a subwoofer? Does that change how we set the knobs on the amp prior?
@westside_tints8197
@westside_tints8197 8 лет назад
I understand what your saying but with out these features on after the setting of the amp gain I feel like I'm not getting the output I want. So I want to make sure if I do use them I'm not going to clip the subwoofer to the point of damaging it. Also my amp is a jl 1200.1v3 and I'm pretty sure it's close to 2000 watts rms I cannot find a birth sheet any where for these amps so I do not know the true rms power at 3 ohms. I'm running one 13.5w7 at 3 ohms it can handle 1500 rms. So i need to know the sweet spot on my amp. Jl recommended 60.0 v at 3 ohms will do 1200 rms but I think the amp can do more power. At 60.0v I don't feel it is hitting as hard as it should.
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
Remember... by setting your gains properly, you are setting the amplifier output that you need for the RMS power handling of your subwoofers. If you feel the output isn't what it should be, consider looking into your enclosure volume and tuning. If you do the math calculation of V = square root of Power x Resistance and it is around 60 volts, I would stick to JL's recommendation. On their website, this amplifier has an RMS rating of 1200 watts at 3ohms. So, the calculation would be V = square root of 3600 which = 60.
@Kuth70
@Kuth70 9 лет назад
This question is more of a clarification: My alpine 5 channel amp is rated a little higher from the factory than what the speakers handle. For example the sub channel is tested by alpine at 554 rather than 500 as advertised. The sub speaker I have is rated at 500. The door speakers are rated at 110 (front comp) and 100 (rear coax). The amp was tested at 124 per channel by alpine. Am i correct in assuming that I should do my calculations based on the speaker RMS instead of the amp RMS, and then I won't be over powering my speakers?
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 9 лет назад
For Power (P) in the equation, use whatever amount of power you want the amplifier to put out at the impedance your subwoofers are wired to. For subwoofers and when setting the channels used to power your subwoofers, you would use a 50Hz tone. For setting gains on amplifiers or channels of amplifiers that are used to power full range speakers, you would use a tone more like 1kHz. Both tones can be downloaded from our website at www.mtx.com/t/testtones
@tjwohlrab5715
@tjwohlrab5715 9 лет назад
i have an SSL4000 watt amp, And two BDX12 subs, subs are 750RMS each, and amp is rated at 1600@4ohm... if i did the math right my voltage should be 80 right? 1600x4=6400 and the swuare root of that is 80?
@CoDyTrE4
@CoDyTrE4 9 лет назад
I just bought a new Mono block Amp, maybe you could help me. Its says its rated 1 Ohm @ 1,800 Watts RMS X 1 Channel. I have 3 subs rated at 300rms. Im running them so my ohm load will be 1.34. What should my gain be?
@williamgingrich2695
@williamgingrich2695 8 лет назад
So when doing this formula for door speakers (and a 2 channel amp) the amp is a 65w RMS (Per channel) the speakers are 60w RMS each and 4ohms. I'm coming up with 65x4=260 and then the sq root of that is 16.12. I'm a tad thrown off since mine is 4 ohms and all the other comments are 2 and 1 ohms. Is this done correctly. And also, should I be seeing 16v out of the left channel and another 16v out of the right channel when I check it on the multimeter?
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
+William Gingrich You would probably want to use the 60 watts RMS that the speakers are rated for. By using 65 watts, you are setting up your amplifier to put 65 watts to your speakers which are only rated for 60 watts. Other than that, your calculation looks good. If your amp has gains for both channels, you would do this for each channel.
@ubreakitirepairit3569
@ubreakitirepairit3569 8 лет назад
I have a Kenwood XR-900-5 running a Kicker VCompS12 2-Ohm (300rms watts) sub. The amp is capable of 600rms watts @2-Ohms on the 5th channel. Recently the sub blew and Kicker is replacing it. In the mean time I've been running one Sony XS-L121P5 4-Ohm (350rms watts) sub fine, w/o changing any settings. I now want to run two Sony XS-L121P5 4-Ohm subs on this amp, which obviously would have to be wired in parallel at 2 ohms to get the 600rms watts total this amp can supply. The 5th channel on this amp is dedicated to the sub. What would the voltage out need to be in order to run these two subs on this amp?
@anthonyconger6088
@anthonyconger6088 9 лет назад
Hello i have Kenwood 12s rated at 400 rms max at 2000.iam using a kenwood 1000 watt amp 2000 max.and two 12s total.what would be my numbers to set gain right?thank you.
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 9 лет назад
Anthony Conger First, disregard any power ratings other than RMS. 2 - subwoofers with a rating of 400 watts RMS each = 800 watts for your desired amp output so P = 800. For "R" the value would be whatever impedance you have wired your subwoofers to. So the equation would be V = the square root of 800 x R.
@Mikega07
@Mikega07 8 лет назад
Hey guys sorry if this is a repeat question, i have read comments but not found an answer. I have a DVC 650rms x2 at 4ohm per VC so ive wired it in parallel to a 2ohm impedance so would i be correct in saying its a 1300w rms at 2 ohm? Thanks guys great videos
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
+Michael Gardiner If you have wired your subwoofers down to a 2ohm load at the amplifier, what is your amplifier's RMS rating at 2ohms? You would take that number multiplied by 2 (ohms) and then find the square root of that answer to get your V = voltage to set your gain to.
@Mikega07
@Mikega07 8 лет назад
But your amp RMS is always the same? so basically what you are saying is that whether i have a 200rms or 700rms sub, the voltage for the gain is always the same? surely the subwoofer RMS plays a role in this calculation? or have i got it wrong
@ARogers
@ARogers 8 лет назад
+Michael Gardiner If you wanted 200RMS at 2 ohms you would want 20 AC volts at the speaker terminals of the amp. If you wanted 700RMS at 2 ohms the voltage would be 37.42 The formula they have used here, is to attain the maximum RMS output of their amplifier. If you do not need to maximum RMS output of the amp because your speakers can't handle it, you would add together the total RMS wattage of whatever subwoofers you have and plot your voltage based on that wattage at 2 ohms (or whatever final load your subs are wired to) Example: Your amp does 1500 watts RMS, but your subs only handle 250 RMS each...(500 RMS total). Take 500RMS X 2 ohms = 1,000 (square root that) = 31.62 AC Volts.
@abdullghoriO1
@abdullghoriO1 6 лет назад
Before I added my subwoofer, I had my bass eq all the way up on the head unit and liked how my factory speakers sounded. I turned the eq off when I put my sub in. Are there any adjustments I need to make if I want to turn my bass eq on the head unit up again? Do I need to readjust the gain?
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 6 лет назад
abdullghoriO1 once the gain is set properly, you can use your EQ adjustments to fine tune the sound for your listening preference.
@PROJECTDRIVEN1
@PROJECTDRIVEN1 3 года назад
Informative. No time wasted!
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 9 лет назад
@JT Rut Setting the gains on amplifiers that are powering door speakers is done in similar fashion but you would use a tone more appropriate for the speakers. For example, we have a 1kHz tone you can download from our website at www.mtx.com/t/testtones
@tpm1868
@tpm1868 3 года назад
I tried this on my new system. Everything's new except for the RCA's. I can't get a reading in my multimeter. Could it be the RCA's
@Dheath
@Dheath 3 года назад
@@tpm1868did you use the DC voltage setting to check your power wire(12v+/-)? when you turn the head unit does the remote receive a dc current(12v)? (you can use the ground for the negative on the multimeter for these two tests/probes) -------------------- You can test the RCAs with a multimeter if you set it in AC volts and probe the center pin and outside ring of the same plug/wire, while music is playing if you get an ac voltage that is going up and down they are working as intended. If you can answer some of my questions, I can defiantly help you figure out what the issue is and we can get you jamin just like that reggae playlist you have on your channel. Been letting it play all day...
@tpm1868
@tpm1868 3 года назад
@@Dheath thanks for getting back to me. Had to replace my deck. Dead sub out rca. Now with new deck everything's working just fine
@dtmfool789
@dtmfool789 4 года назад
I have a sub level setting (digital bass knob) on my head unit. Do I put that all the way up before setting the gain? If not, once it's set and I turn it up it's going to go past that Target voltage right?
@mrbrucie7295
@mrbrucie7295 4 года назад
No. You always want to start with a flat signal.
@mrbrucie7295
@mrbrucie7295 4 года назад
The only time you should really ever touch a bass boost feature is when the bass of the track is recorded lower than others. Many people think a bass boost feature give you more performance but it simply doesnt. All it does is increase the volume of a dedicated range of lower frequencies. Which if set too high will cause distortion and clipping. Which is not good for amps or subs.
@GlycerinZ
@GlycerinZ 4 года назад
settings on head unit should all be flat, any bass boost turned off. If you have a bass control knob that connects to the amp, that should be turned all the way UP. Bass boost to me is kinda pointless, agree with what Brucie said. If you feel like you need to turn bass boost on, buy higher wattage RMS speakers. I currently have 2 Rockford P3's, 1200W RMS total between them.
@dtmfool789
@dtmfool789 4 года назад
@@GlycerinZ no you didn't understand. It's not bass boost, it's subwoofer level control essentially an electronic bass knob. It's built into the headunit.
@GlycerinZ
@GlycerinZ 4 года назад
@@dtmfool789 I'd leave it at 0.. you have a bass control knob connected to the amp, right? use that. If you don't have one, i'd get one. It's best to have all the settings within the deck set to default and EQ off. Are you sure it's not the bass level associated with mid and treble? Because my car also has Treb/Mid/Bass, but those should all be set flat. But you are right, if you turn it up, it will go past the target voltage and most likely cause clipping.. which will fry your subs and then you won't be a happy Daniel.
@DatNinjaGuyD
@DatNinjaGuyD 3 года назад
can i just use bluetooth and use youtube for the 50hz or the test sound must be from a cd
@sandeeprajmoenilal5836
@sandeeprajmoenilal5836 9 лет назад
Hi! Thanks for uploading. Very usefull video I have a 1135 rms Amp jbl crown and a 1100 rms rockford p2/t2 subw hooked up at 4 ohm How do i get the Max out of the both? Thanks again.
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 9 лет назад
We assume you have a Rockford Fosgate P2D2 which is a dual voice coil subwoofer in their P2 (Punch) lineup. Depending on which size you have, your RMS power handling is between 250 and 400 watts. Peak/Max power handling on the 15" model is 800 watts so without knowing what exactly you have, we cannot help with the equation. Please check your specifications of the exact model #'s you have and ONLY use the RMS ratings. Do not use peak or max power ratings.
@sandeeprajmoenilal5836
@sandeeprajmoenilal5836 9 лет назад
***** thnx for the reply i checked and i have a rockford T2 15 inch
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 9 лет назад
Sandeep Raj Moenilal OK, that subwoofer T2D215 has a 1200 watt RMS power handling. Would still need to know the exact specs of the amplifier.
@edwardmatthews5899
@edwardmatthews5899 5 лет назад
So if I've got a 2600w amp but only using 1300w on one channel at 4 ohms do I set the gain with the 1300 rate or the 2600 for overall.
@CrazyHackpod
@CrazyHackpod 5 лет назад
1300
@cwi7175
@cwi7175 8 лет назад
each mtx terminator sub is 200 watts RMS Resulting in 400 for both so they are not the same RMS as the amp. When I am getting the desired voltage, do I calculate Both subs RMS? I have Two 4 ohm Pioneer Subs running parallel taking it down to 2 ohms. Each Sub has a Nominal power of 400 watts. What is the desired voltage?
@Lordvoldemore
@Lordvoldemore 3 года назад
My led clip light will turn on when I adjust the filter afterwards so I set the filters first then adjusted the gains.
@kubinlh
@kubinlh 3 года назад
If it's flashing it's ok solid no good
@ukokepaoa5536
@ukokepaoa5536 3 года назад
Makes sense set the sound you want...then adjust the level of the sound you like to play the loudest safest gain level
@RandoManFPV
@RandoManFPV 2 года назад
@@ukokepaoa5536 filters should only lower the power or loudness. For most amps, The only adjustment I can think of that increases sound or power other than the gain knob; would be the bass boost switch or knob found on some amps
@westside_tints8197
@westside_tints8197 8 лет назад
The reason I ask is I'm running a jl audio slash 1200.1v3 and a jl 13w7 and at the target voltage of 60.0v it's 1200watts rms and I fell the sub is not as loud as it should be. I do not want to damage it but I notice when up the levels on my head unit it gets the extra push I want. I'm afraid im could be damaging it in the long run please help.
@956Joeyz28
@956Joeyz28 4 года назад
I have a 1850 Watt amp class D and 2 ohm Lightnjng audio L3s which I converted to 1 ohm. So my amp puts out 1850 at 1 ohm and my speakers are converted to 1 ohm as well would my voltage be 43.01 at 1 ohm or 86.02 at 4 ohms ?
@K-Effect
@K-Effect 4 года назад
43.01 volts only if your RMS is 1850 watts at 1 ohm. Times you RMS amplifier wattage by the ohm load your going to run you amplifier at then square that shit.
@codyclem7146
@codyclem7146 2 года назад
HELP PLEASE! MY amp is rated at 800@1ohm(pioneer 8601). My subs are 200watts nominal each(pioneer TS-W253R) and I have 3 subs. So what should I be reading on my multi-meter when setting the gain for these?
@4evershoot
@4evershoot 10 лет назад
Hello, I need some advice please. I have one 12 inch shallow mount Rockford Fosgate R2 subwoofer with a dual 4 ohm coils; rated at 250 RMS and its hooked up to a HIFONICS ZEUS ZX4000 Rated at 400 watts RMS bridged on a 4 ohm load. Speaker is wired to a final 8ohm load. And the amp is bridged. Please tell me the correct way to connect this system! :(
@ZeroGMVideos
@ZeroGMVideos 8 лет назад
Great! thanks! nobody says "why" the level set in stereo its full up... nobody says how to put the level stereo...nobody says there is no afect to use or not the speaker for test (somebody told me that i needed to have a resistance (speaker) conected for this test...) your video solved me that questions..! Good good good video! i like it! A question..may u help me? If I have a 100wrms amp and my subwoofer is 200wrms(4omh).. its suposed that i must to put the gain to the max?? and on the other hand.. I would like to know the Wrms of my stereo sistem (pioneer DEHx8600BT and others..) most of stereos say 50x4 (peakpower) but i just to know the rms of that stereos (just to know it) is it any empirical test to do it ??? THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE!! Regards from Spain!
@WhereAmEye2187
@WhereAmEye2187 4 года назад
You don't need the load (speakers) connected because you already calculated the total resistance when you measured the ohms of the speakers. Speakers are only to actually hear the sound. The signal is still present at the output terminals
@Krew808
@Krew808 8 лет назад
I have the same sub in the video I think MTX TNE212D which is 400 RMS and Rockford Fosgate R500X1D (500RMS) Prime 1-Channel amp. What should my voltage be at?
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
+Krew808 Since the enclosure has a RMS rating of 400 watts, you would only want to use 400 watts RMS of your 500 watt RMS amplifier. So the calculation would be V = square root of 2ohms x 400 watts. V = square root of 800. V = 28.28 volts.
@phillips3390
@phillips3390 8 лет назад
I have a 4ohm kicker 12" cvr sub-woofer and a MTX 500.1 thunder series class D amp. The kicker does 800watts and 400rms. Yet the MTX amp does 500rms at 2ohms which = 1000watts peak power. I am confused. Is it ( 500rms X 2ohm) or (500rms X 4ohm) Please help... I need the right voltage
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
+phillip shevchenko for P (power) in the equation, you use whatever amount of RMS power you want to get out of the amplifier. In your case, since your subwoofer has an RMS rating of 400 watts, you would typically use 400 watts because you wouldn't want to send 500 watts to a subwoofer with a 400 watt rating. HOWEVER, your amplifier does 500 watts RMS x 1 @ 2ohms but your subwoofer isn't a 2ohm subwoofer. Your amplifier does 300 watts RMS x 1 @ 4ohm which is what your subwoofer is. So... the equation is V = square root of P x R. V = square root of 300 (amplifier's RMS rating at 4ohms) x R. For R (resistance or impedance), since your subwoofer is a single 4ohm voice coil, your only option for R is 4. V = square root of 300 x 4 V = square root of 1200 V = 34.64
@phillips3390
@phillips3390 8 лет назад
Thankyou
@phillips3390
@phillips3390 8 лет назад
If you go on Kicker wiring (YELLOW) diagram, I am using the top right diagram. On images 4ohm voice coil to 2ohm parallel.
@johnmichaelmitchell
@johnmichaelmitchell 5 лет назад
Which amplifier RMS rating is this based on? Amps usually provide two RMS ratings, such as a 2ohm RMS and a 4ohm RMS. Do you use the lowest ohm rating to determine the RMS value to calculate? 4ohm RMS of the amp is half of the 2ohm RMS, so the calculation would be off without specifying what amplifier RMS to start with, regardless of the speaker impedance. Are are you strictly calculating RMS and ohm from the manufacturer specifications of the amplifier?
@BeatsByGRIMM
@BeatsByGRIMM 4 года назад
Rms rating that you use depends on the ohm load of you sub
@busadventures9865
@busadventures9865 5 лет назад
I know the ohms load of my speakers but how do I get the desired voltage rms of the amp are you saying to divide the rms power of my amp by my ohm load or multiply it? Also could you give me an example? Do I put the multi meter on ac or dc? Also I have a friend who has been doing car stereo for years and he tells me that if you want to prevent a valet person or someone else's from blowing up your speakers, to set the volume of your radio to 3 notches before the top setting and then adjust the amp gain controls right before distortion you should be less likely to blow your speakers. For example my radio goes max volume 35 He suggests 32 then turn up gains. Is this bad advice? I tried it I think my radio distorts at 29 or 30.
@Easy_Victor
@Easy_Victor 9 лет назад
Can you make another video explaining more than one speaker setup or clarify a few things? Amp: Alpine MRV-M500 -mono subwoofer amplifier -300 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms or (500 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms) Speakers: Kenwood KFC-W3013PS 12" 4-ohm subwoofer power range: 50-400 watts RMS "peak power handling: 1,200 watts" Alright, mono sub wired down to 2 ohms is P=500? Or is it P=400 because the max speaker RMS is 400? 500 would be more RMS from the amp than the speakers can handle RMS wise. Correct? So it's either AC Volts = Sprt ([400 or 500] * 2 ohms) Thanks!
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 9 лет назад
P = RMS power rating of your amplifier at whatever impedance (R=resistance) you have your subwoofers wired to. If you have 2, 3, 4, 5, or however many subwoofers you have, what impedance are they wired to at the amp? That is the number you would use for R (resistance). So in your case, P = 500 watts but only if your subs are wired to 2 ohms. If your subs were wired to 4ohms, you would use the 4ohm RMS rating for your amplifier for "P" in the equation. P = RMS rating of your amplifier at whatever impedance your subs (any number of subs that are connected to that mono block amplifier) are wired to. R = resistance (impedance) of your subwoofers at the amplifier in ohms. If you wire two single 4ohm voice coils in series, you would use 8ohms. If you wire two single 4ohm voice coils in parallel, you would use 2ohms. See our wiring diagram tool to learn how to wire subwoofers to different impedances - www.mtx.com/t/library-wiring-diagrams Assuming you have your two subs wired to 2ohms at the amp, your equation would be: V = square root of (500 * 2), V = square root of 1000, V = 31.623 volts
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 9 лет назад
Since your subwoofers have an RMS power handling of 400 watts each (2 subs x 400 watts each = 800 watts total), your amplifier is a bit underpowered for what the subwoofers are rated for.
@Easy_Victor
@Easy_Victor 9 лет назад
***** Awesome! Thanks! But I'm wondering, since the max rating of the Subs is 400 RMS, would it be a better idea to use 400? To be easier on the subs? Really appreciate the help! I'm looking into a possible change to me setup with going with your guys 12" dual voice to wire that down to 2 ohms. So it'll be the same settings. I think it'll save me some trunk space for a rear mounted single sub instead of having this big ol box. Though's on that? I'll most likly have to make a small box, cause I don't think it's a free air rated sub. Thanks again!
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 9 лет назад
Hott Toddy If you have 2 subs at 400 watts each and your amp is rated at 500 watts x 1, you would only be putting 250 watts to each sub. The amp is a bit underpowered. If you have 1 sub, then yes, you would use 400 watts in your equation so that you don't overpower the subwoofers by sending too much power. If you were to buy a single 12" dual 4ohm voice coil sub and wire it down to 2ohms at the amp, you could go with our 5512-44 - (www.mtx.com/55-series-car-subwoofer) and use the same amp or our 7512-44 - (www.mtx.com/75-series-car-subwoofer) but with that sub, your amp would be a bit underpowered again.
@Easy_Victor
@Easy_Victor 9 лет назад
***** Awesome. So equation is: AC Volts = Sqrt 500 * 2 AC Volts = 31.62
@CurtF94
@CurtF94 Месяц назад
I bought a multimeter today for this purpose. I got home and stuck it in a plug socket to test it worked and it was 243 volts so it’s good. Ngl I was a bit scared about sticking it into the plug socket tho in case it went bang 😂😂😂
@bobbytipton1958
@bobbytipton1958 Месяц назад
Lol
@robertwagner8598
@robertwagner8598 6 лет назад
I dont use my cd player due to the roads are shit where i live. Can i tune the amp using blue tooth with a hz test on a ipod?
@vipercrazy9910
@vipercrazy9910 4 года назад
So if your running active and only have two 15w rms tweeters on the first two channels of a 50w per channel amp you would want it to 30w max instead of 100(50Wx2)? About 10 volts.
@ceciljones1248
@ceciljones1248 2 года назад
OK that's 3 to 4years ago all my amplifiers have clip indicators on them haven't blown a subwoofer or speak since I used it?
@Yankeesftw23
@Yankeesftw23 8 лет назад
I have one sony XS-L121P5W 12 inch sub with a sony xplod 1000 watt amp xm-zr1852. The instruction manual gives me the rms on two channels but I'm only using one channel. How do I find out the info I need? Thanks
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
+Yankeesftw23 Are you bridging the two channels together? If so, Sony should also provide an RMS power output of the amplifier bridged if it is a bridgeable amplifier. Not all multi channel amplifiers can be bridged.
@Yankeesftw23
@Yankeesftw23 8 лет назад
+MTX Audio USA No i am not bridging the two channels and I believe the amp rms is 185w
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
+Yankeesftw23 Your subwoofer has an RMS power handling rating of 350 watts. Your amplifier's unbridged RMS output is rated at 185 watts per channel at 4ohm or 200 watts per channel at 2ohm. Since your subwoofer is a SVC 4ohm sub, it can only be wired as 4ohms at the amp which means you would be providing 185 watts to your subwoofer that wants 350 watts to perform properly. You should consider getting an amplifier that is better matched to your subwoofer.
@Yankeesftw23
@Yankeesftw23 8 лет назад
+MTX Audio USA Alright thank you for the info and do you reccomend amplifying the rear speakers in my car. Im keeping the receiver stock for now will it affect my sound quality tremedously?
@maryjoanmontalvo9153
@maryjoanmontalvo9153 7 лет назад
If an amp is suppose to reach let's say 36.7 but your gain is maxed. Does it mean my amp is too weak for my sub? Thanks in advance
@patricklawrence9784
@patricklawrence9784 6 лет назад
Mary Joan Montalvo Most likely..get a better one!
@kunal186
@kunal186 7 лет назад
Hi I tried this method but my meter shows a max of 14 volts when turned to max for some reason and 0 at minimum. I had kept it at the 200v setting on the meter. What am doing wrong? My Amp is a Powerbass ASA3 1000.1d doing 700 rms at 2 ohms and my sub is a Pioneer TS-W3003D4 dual 4 ohm rated at 600 rms. Please help.
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 7 лет назад
Assuming your subwoofer is wired at 2ohms, your calculation would be V = square root of 600 x 2 which = square root of 1200 which is 34.64 volts. Make sure all of your filters and crossover/tuning settings in the head unit and the amplifier are set as explained in the video.
@c4prlm4st3r
@c4prlm4st3r 5 лет назад
Hi I have a unit amplifier with 125W RMS x 4ch with 2 gain control. From my reading, with 2 gain control I need to split the RMS value. I need to calculate voltage for my 4 ohm speaker. Does this calculation correct: V=250W x 4. Does the calculation can be used for speaker with crossover installed for my front speaker? Thank You in advanced.
@BeatsByGRIMM
@BeatsByGRIMM 4 года назад
If the amp is bridgeable use that rms instead.. DMM leads go on the bridge out of A and B.. simplest way
@westside_tints8197
@westside_tints8197 8 лет назад
So let's say I have everything zero'ed out on my head unit and after I set my gain on my amp to the target voltage i set my crossovers and frequencies. My target voltage is still the same. Now if I get in my car and start to turn up the subwoofer controls from 0db to +10db and turn the loud setting on won't that take my target voltage up and start to distort my subwoofer?
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
It could... But manipulating the audio signal using features like bass boost and loud settings is a bit different than setting your gains. When you set your gains, you are level matching the output of your amplifier to the RMS power handling of your speakers/subwoofers to ensure a good combination and to not over or under power your speakers.... When you use bass boost and loud settings, you are actually manipulating/changing the audio signal prior to any amplification of it. This is why we recommend setting your gains with no bass boost or loud settings on. Once your gains are set appropriately, if you want to tweak and tune your system to your personal listening preferences, using these features can help. But if your bass boost is all the way up and your loudness setting is all the way up, you could distort your subwoofer whether your gains were set correctly or not because those features can cause a clipped signal to be sent to the input of your amplifier before the amp gain ever comes into the scenario. Hope this makes sense.
@dbwiskus
@dbwiskus 4 года назад
If you have a 5 channel amp. You would set the 4 lower wattage speakers to one gain (60Wx4@4ohm) and the sub channel (350Wx1@2ohm) to it's own gain correct?
@jonjackson9175
@jonjackson9175 5 лет назад
You set the gains for 500 watts rms but those subs are only 400 rms. Shouldn't the ohms law formula be used with the rms rating and resistence rating of the subs not the amp? I have the same subs with an alpine mrv 500, with 517 on the birthsheet would it be too much if I set the gains to 500 rms or no?
@alejandroespino1998
@alejandroespino1998 5 лет назад
He has 500 watts running through both subs buddy, both subs wired together are rated 800 rms
@carlosbeats972
@carlosbeats972 8 лет назад
Powerone crunch amp p1 2000.1 a/b type amp with dual 15" kicker comps what would my ideal level/gain be? just changed from dual mtx subs.......
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
+Carlos Portillo Not enough info here to calculate the equation. How many subs? When you say dual, does that mean there are two subs or they are dual voice coil subs? What is the subwoofers RMS power handling rating? What impedance are your subwoofers wired to? What is your amplifiers RMS power rating at whatever impedance you have your subwoofers wired to?
@carlosbeats972
@carlosbeats972 8 лет назад
Sorry there are two 15" SVC subs with 600watt rms each wired to 2ohms.....the amp is a Power One Series Monoblock two channel Class A/B Car Amplifier RMS Power Rating: 4 ohms: 250 watts x 1 chan. 2 ohms: 500 watts x 1 chan. 1 ohm: 1000 watts x 1 chan.
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
+Carlos Portillo If the subs are SVC 4ohm voice coils, your two subs can be wired together for a final impedance of either 2 or 8ohms at the amplifier. Since you have a two channel amplifier but listed ratings for 1 channel, I assume you are bridging the amplifier. Assuming 2ohms at the amplifier, your amp will have an output of 500 watts. You want an output of around 1200 watts at 2ohms to get the whole performance of your subwoofers. Based on what you listed, the amplifier isn't powerful enough for your subs.
@carlosbeats972
@carlosbeats972 8 лет назад
+MTX Audio USA Thanks any amp recommendations?
@carlosbeats972
@carlosbeats972 8 лет назад
+MTX Audio USA just got a 1200watt rms kicker amp
@rubenfranco7092
@rubenfranco7092 3 года назад
I still need help I have a skar rp 1500 and a audiopipe txxbd4 12 2 ohm 1100 rms but I'm wiring it to 1 ohm so what I will do 1100 time 1 or 2
@rm71603
@rm71603 3 года назад
Ok so I have 3 subs @400 rms and connected to an impedance of 2.67 ohms. How dies the equation look in order to get the best out put?
@kingsmartazz
@kingsmartazz 9 лет назад
Does it work the same way if I have my speakers bridged and wired in series. Here's my amp specs. Not sure which one I would use or how to use a multimeter this way. The speakers are two 12"s subs. Total Power Output 1600 Watts Peak Power @ 2 Ω 800 Watts x 2 Bridged Power @ 4 Ω 1600 Watts x 1 RMS Power @ 4 Ω 240 Watts x 2
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 9 лет назад
Jeremy Wood Yes. Even if your amplifier is bridged and your speakers are wired in series, you still just input the #'s into the equation. Use whatever impedance your subs are wired to in series as the "R" in the equation. For the "P" in the equation, you would use whatever your subs RMS power handling rating is and multiply by two since you have two woofers.
@915Gee
@915Gee 9 лет назад
Do the hz test tones depend on what subs you got or should i use the 50hz test tone you used for my comp r 12s?
@GlycerinZ
@GlycerinZ 4 года назад
40/50Hz is for subs only, 1KHz is for regular speakers. I prefer 40Hz tone
@sonmitch98
@sonmitch98 8 лет назад
OK so I have 1200 watt amp at 1 ohm. That comes out to 34.62. Set it on my gain with multimeter connected. My multimeter only has 200v as its lowest setting for alternating current. This makes it come out to 3.4 on the multimeter. Is this correct? Let me know please and thank you.
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
You should be able to select the proper type of voltage (AC) and make sure your leads are inserted into the proper socket. You should probably refer to your multimeter's manufacturer's page for an owner's manual.
@sonmitch98
@sonmitch98 8 лет назад
It has 200 or 2000 for alternating voltage
@sonmitch98
@sonmitch98 8 лет назад
So I'd assume 3.4 comes out to 34 its just moved the decimal to fit if voltage goes up to 200
@sanj5026
@sanj5026 3 года назад
Now would I put the multimeter where the speaker wires (attached to the sub box) are?
@cwi7175
@cwi7175 8 лет назад
Some people say to get the desired voltage to calculate the RMS power of the speaker times the ohms then square root it. Mtx says to calculate the RMS power of the amp times the ohms of the sub. Which way is Right?
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
You are correct. You should use the total RMS power or your subwoofer(s). In our example the total RMS power handling is the exact same (500 watts) as the RMS output of the amplifier. By using the total RMS power handling of your subwoofer(s), you can use an amp that has more RMS output than you need and be confident that you aren't going to overpower your subwoofer(s). If you would use the RMS output of the amp without considering the power handling of the subwoofers, you would be setting the gain to maximum output which could be bad for your subs depending on their rating. Thanks for bringing attention to this. We've answered this question multiple times in the comments. It's just that our specific example is exactly the same RMS rating for the two subs (250 watts each) and the amplifier (500 watts x 1).
@gsxrunit
@gsxrunit 10 лет назад
I have my system setup line out from the kenwood head to a Kenwood eq then splitt 3ways f/r/s to a crossover to two different amps is that the right way or should I just use sub from the head to get a quality low with no distortion? And does using the eqs sub change the values of my heads freq ratings?Thxs in advance for any advice also I'm not sure if it's my craftsman DMM but my values are unstable ?
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 10 лет назад
If you are using an external, dedicated crossover for the audio signal that you send to all of your amplifiers, I would recommend setting your head unit to be flat with no equalization done through the head unit and just manage any tuning through the crossover only. Hope that answers your question. Sorry for the late response.
@gsxrunit
@gsxrunit 10 лет назад
Np on the late response ! So if I understand u correctly I should eliminate my secondary eq and connect straight to the head and keep the signals flat then tune it with my crossover! Am I correct?
@alexandru9826
@alexandru9826 2 года назад
If i have 2 subs , i need to calculate both of them or only one of them? Btw subs are on a stereo amp one sub per channel (2 channels). 40w*2 channels 4 ohm 45w rms subs 8inch.
@juanpedrochanpuch9529
@juanpedrochanpuch9529 10 лет назад
Hi i have a single Rockford Fosgate Sub P2D4 12" 400rms (setted at 2 ohms) and an amplifier Db drive A6 1600.1d who gives me 1600wrms @ 1 Ohm and 800wrms @ 2 Ohm. WICH ONE OF THESE VALUES HAVE TO BE "P"????? 1600, 800 or 400????? PLEASEEEEE!!!!! Sorry for my english :D
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 10 лет назад
Lalo Ramirez, Unfortunately, there is no good way to connect your DVC subwoofer to this amplifier. The amplifier is 400 watts @ 4ohm when bridged to mono. Your subwoofer can only be wired a final impedance of 2 ohms or 8 ohms. I would recommend you get a class D monoblock amplifier for your subwoofer than would do the appropriate amount of power at 2ohms for your subwoofer and use your existing amp for door speakers.
@AM33ZY
@AM33ZY 6 лет назад
MTX Audio USA hi I’ve been trying to figure this out forever my sub is dual 2 ohms I have it wired down to 1. So would it be my rms times 1 (obviously 500) or do I still do the 2 as well? Also my sub is rated 500rms
@doganyilmaz_92
@doganyilmaz_92 5 лет назад
I use bluetooth aux device with ground loop isolator. Streaming music via Spotify Highest Quality. And my phone is Samsung S9+ Max volume is 15 on phone and max volume on sony head unit 50. Which setting is best ? Max volume on phone and 3/4 head unit ? Or %60 on phone 3/4 on head unit. Some folk says you should set BT volume about %50-60 to avoid distortion. Thank you for help
@SpressoHead
@SpressoHead 5 лет назад
Interesting study. When I BT my Apple to my head unit, the two units sync volume. Up to 50% head unit volume, the Apple vol runs @50%. As I increase past 50%, the Apple vol follows up to 100% with literally no distortion. I set my amp gain @ 85% on the head unit.
@tipool777
@tipool777 9 лет назад
question: i am using a 1000rms 4ch amplifier (250rms x 4). should i use the channel power or total amplifier power?
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 9 лет назад
Use the channel power and test each channel output assuming all channels are wired to the same impedance.
@dsingh11
@dsingh11 Год назад
I have 1 sub which is 900rms wired to 1ohm and a amp at 1000rms at 1ohm. What would the calculation be
@max_getem
@max_getem 2 месяца назад
30
@Ramirez77092
@Ramirez77092 3 года назад
If I have a dual 2 ohm sub wired down to 1 ohm do I multiple my RMS by 2 or 1 ?
@angryace4017
@angryace4017 3 года назад
1, so your target voltage would be 22.36 in this example however, do not turn your radio all the way up, low level outputs can still have distortion. 3/4 volume would be more advisable unless you have access to an Oscilloscope, a DD-1 or another similar device to check at what volume level the head unit distorts.
@MrBlonde47
@MrBlonde47 8 лет назад
Hi MTX, so I recently installed a sub and amp as well as an LOC since I'm using my stock head unit. I downloaded your test tone to use to get the correct AC volts. My problem is, I'm trying to reach 31.6 volts, but I can turn my gain all the way up and my DMM won't go up past 10 Volts. I checked all my wiring and everything is in order so I'm wondering if you might know why my speaker outputs on my amp are giving such low readings.
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
+Daniel J Make sure you are using your amplifiers RMS power output ratings. Not the MAX or peak rating.
@MrBlonde47
@MrBlonde47 8 лет назад
+MTX Audio USA yea that's what I was going for, the amps output rating is 1000rms at 1 ohm. (It's a 1 ohm stable amp) so that gives me 36.1 Vots yet like I said even I turned the gained all the way my DMM reading wouldn't be anywhere near that for some reason. I just did the ear test to sure there's no clipping, maybe I need to take it to a pro.
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
+Daniel J Could be something to do with the output signal of the LOC... Could be something to do with the wiring/impedance of your subs being incorrect... Could be a crossover or filter setting that is limiting the output... Take it to a reputable shop and ask them to check it over for you. They may charge you a shop/labor fee but it will be worth it in the long run to make sure your system is setup properly. Spend a little now to save yourself from replacing blown equipment.
@exploremarcus
@exploremarcus 7 лет назад
Hello there can you help me ? I have Two 4ohm 12inch subwoofers 300rms each so 600rms altogether and wired them down to 2 ohms the amp on 2 ohms is 800rms how would i set my gain?
@UrAvgBasshead
@UrAvgBasshead 7 лет назад
Marcus43 34.64
@patricklawrence9784
@patricklawrence9784 7 лет назад
Marcus43 yep! he's right! 34.64
@shawnconnolly5525
@shawnconnolly5525 6 лет назад
Marcus43 If your AMP is more powerful then your speakers you can use the RMS of the speakers with the same “ohms law” equation to achieve the same none clipping multimeter voltage desired
@guitarzrawsome
@guitarzrawsome 8 лет назад
What about Dual-Voice-Coils? A DVC 4 ohm sub which I'm wiring down to two ohms. The sub is rated at 400 RMS and the amp is rated at 600 RMS.
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
Dual Voice coil or Single Voice coil doesn't matter. Just choose the impedance the amplifier will be working with and do the calculation. In your case, V = square root of 400 watts * 2ohms... V = square root of 800... V = 28.2843
@yousufkan6960
@yousufkan6960 8 лет назад
i have two mtx terminators 12" subs and its says on the back of the sub 4ohm for each sub input, my amp is 700 watt rms x 1 channel at 2 ohms, and 425 watts rms x1 channel at 4ohms, would i have to divide the wattage (425watts) by two for the 4 ohm to calculate the voltage for 1 sub for P in the equation. ( i have two sub out puts on my amp for two subs). THANKS
@MTXAudioUSA
@MTXAudioUSA 8 лет назад
+yousuf kan a TN12-04 subwoofer is a single voice coil, 4ohm, 200 watts RMS subwoofer. If you have two of them, your final impedance at the amplifier would be either 8 ohms (if you wired your subwoofers together in series) or 2 ohms (if you wired your subwoofers in parallel). Depending on which impedance your subwoofers are wired to, this would be your value for "R." Since you only want to put 400 watts to the pair of subwoofers or 200 watts to each subwoofer, 200 or 400 would be the value you use for "P". Your amplifier output is what we are trying to level match when setting gains so the amplifier ratings are not used in the equation. Just the impedance (R) and RMS power handling (P) of your subwoofers are what is used to determine how much voltage you want coming out of your amplifier. Your amplifier is rated for more power than the subwoofers so be careful not to overpower them.
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