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GREAT VIDEO! So helpful. My son's MSI gaming PC was not cooling properly after a recent power outage. Something got scrambled, as the CPU temp was at 210 degrees fahrenheit while idling (sans gameplay). The video was a great resource for how to monitor and adjust these settings - both in the BIOS and in Windows. CPU temp is back within normal limits and what you'd expect based on usage. THANK YOU!
Great Vid with the usual great presentation, thanks Mike. As I understand it you probably need to 'double check' all your BIOS (UEFI) settings following a bios update (& sometimes a windows update) which is a bit annoying as it means re-doing your settings (Ram, fans etc.)...My guess is that why you (mgriffes) had the issue with your sons PC.
Always make sure that if you have a mobo that doesn’t have a pump header, and u just use the 4 pin cpu fan into a 3 pin radiator then make sure that you change the setting in the bios to dc instead of default pwm.
@@mikesunboxing l have no time for people who criticise others who give their time to help people like myself who have little knowledge in computer science.You’re the only one l’ve come across so far who l can say l understand what’s what.Keep up your good work 👍
hey mike. i commented on your live stream yesterday. this helped me so much. and i now know where i was going wrong. my fans in the front of my case are 3 pin dc and the rest are 4 pin. ive now changed these settings in the bios and the unervolt on my cpu are no longer needed. my temp's are so much better now. i didnt realise the fans were that different until i saw this video. thanks alot mike 🙂
Hello, I wanted to share happiness with you Mike. I've just bought, MSİ Z790 gaming plus motherboard with a 360L ARGB. Also 14th gen, 14700K After I setup the fan speeds like you, I dont get any more than 27 C CPU degree on idle. Also, CPU socket temp is no more than 25. It's really powerfull. Thank you so much :)
Great tutorial Mike and very thorough. Reinforces your previous videos albeit I do have one question and that is which takes precedent over fan control, the bios or the msi centre in this video? Thanks again Mike and Kath 🐈👍
Awesome, really good video. I managed to quickly fix my cooling settings in bios after my pc shut down. Watching at 1.5 speed i managed to do it fast enough to reconnect to my multiplier match.
what is the disadvantage of setting your cpu fans/system fans to 100% RPM all the time? woudnt that be good because it will keep your system cool = better performance?
@@mikesunboxing other than noise will having it run in 100% speed make it perform better due to lower temps and will it affect the longetivity of fans if you keep in in 100% than having it changing from time to time due to fan curves? i dont find my fans 100% speed really noisy
Love the videos and find them extremely helpful. Do you know what the software is for ASRock motherboards to control the fans without going to the bios?
Hey Mike, this might sound like a stupid question, but are your case fans supposed to ramp up in speed when your CPU is under load? I just ran a cinebench multicore test and used HWinfo to monitor fan speeds, but didn't notice my case fans actually spinning any faster. My CPU temps were well under control, so I believe my CPU cooler fans were spinning faster, it's just the rest weren't. Is this normal PWM fan behaviour? I have them configured much like the video where they are supposed to ramp up according to CPU sensors.
Hello Mike, I bought the "MSI MODERN AM242P 12M i7-1260P" model Allinone. There is no section called "User Scenario" in MSI Center. That's why I can't adjust fan settings. Is there any other way to solve this problem? Or should we wait for a new update or use an old version? Thanks
if the software is not available in the MSI center that means it is not compatible with the motherboard, but bear in mind you have to add user scenario as a feature from the list of available modules, it isn't installed as a default
Hey what ram are u using ? I have to msi tomahawk x760e and fury ram compatible for Intel and amd but in bios showing only A XMP profiles. Should I use specific for amd made ram with expo option in bios?
question: if i set the fan curves in the BIOS then play with the curve in MSI Center and find the best curve to my liking and performance, do i have to copy those again back to the BIOS to finalize it?
no the bios settings work whilst in the bios and only in windows if dragon center or msi center is not installed, IF msi center is installed the settings will kick in after windows has booted and the software has started
Thank you for giving us this helpful and well explained video! When i get this right, if i setup the fan curve in BIOS it’s all good and MSI center isn’t needed?
@@mikesunboxingI’m using arctic fans and air cooler on my 7800x3d and have about 57-60 degrees celsius. Is this like normal or should i improve my fan curves?
Hello, i'm new to these things and got a AIO cooler from Cooler Master (Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240 Atmos ARGB ) I have a old motherboard b450 M and only got 1 CPU_FAN port and 2 CHA_FAN Ports. I have 1 exit fan in the CHA_FAN And got the front 3 fans in the other CHA_FAN port The AIO Cooler has like 3 connectors that supposed to go in the fan ports. Do you recommend that i get a 3 to 1 CPU Splitter to connect the AIO to the CPU_FAN port? i'm a bit lost what to do now...
Hi Mike great video just what I was looking for but I’m still not sure what I should be setting the fan curves to. At the moment I’m pretty sure they are all set at full speed or mostly DC as fans are noisy the moment I switch it on. I’ve just built my first PC which is: MSi x670e AMD 7800x3d Artic freezer III 360 4070 Ti super 1x p14 Pwm pst rear case fan (exhaust) 2xP14 Pwm pst bottom case fans (intake) Lian -Li 216X Lancool case
you can set the fan curves to the ones i often use 20% at 20c 40% at 40c 60% at 60c and 100% at 70c and that should be reasonably quiet, but also get loud when the CPU is under load
Nice vid mike I stopped useing the mobo for my fans and started using a piece of software called fan control. I'd advise every one to give this a look can even set your gpu to the curve if it's an nvidia card, it's also free though there is an option to donate to the bloke who developed it..
Are MSI center balanced option and smart fan curve in bios good enough? It seems that my coolers are working even when the computer is idle, with really cold air coming from them. I have 6 coolers + 2 for CPU. I am a bit afraid to experiment in the bios as a total beginner....
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Hiya, so I'm using the Lian Li Galahad AIO, I have set the speed to 100% at all times within MSI Center, however every now and then the stats of the CPU and the pump freeze and stop reading, when this happens I also lose control of the pump speed and the pump seems to run at the RPM set within BIOS. I think this is causing my pump to cut out as you stated in the video, as when my CPU temp gets to around 36c the RPM drops to 0, then as the CPU temp heats up again it kicks back in. Again none of this is showing is MSI Center I'm currently having to use NZXT CAM to give me readings. Anyone know why MSI Center is bugging out on me like this? Any help is appreciated, thanks.
set the pump speed to 100% in the bios and see what happens. if the fan control is getting issues in windows and reverting to BIOS settings that should help
Super late reply, but I was wondering about one thing. Will the bios understand and identify the cpu fans/pump fans by themselves? I recently got a AIO, which, as in your example, has CPU FAN and PUMP FAN seperate. I think I plugged the cooler you put on top of the CPU itself (is that maybe called the pump? which would be weird, no?) into the CPU header on the mobo, but obviously the other 2 (using a AIO with 2 fans at the top, so 240) didn't have a CPU header in the mobo to plug in to. Does it matter which one of the other free fan headers I plug them in? Should I replug all of the fans to make them be in the "right" space? Like, is it correct with having the cooler itself (the physical one) that you put on the CPU into the "CPU" header on to mobo as I expected? Reason I'm asking cus I feel like my fans are being a little....aggressive. PC is idling at 30 celsius, and doesn't go much higher when playing. But even whilst idling you can hear the fans. But then I see you, and some others, recommend to have pumps at 100% or close to, which makes sense. But when I try to install a program called "FanControl" I found out that there is also one of the SysFans that are noisy, which is weird :P
that is to enable the MSI software to control the CPU overclocks etc and the msi user scenario to control fans in windows, with these in the off position the BIOS controls them
Hi Short Question i Have an Arctic Liquid Freezer 360 A-RGB the thing is The Pump, Fans and the Little fan on the AIO are all connected on one Cable so they´re on the connected on the Pump_Fan1 on my Board now i dont know if i should let it Stay on the Max or if i should turn on Smart Fan Mode cause i´m not sure if this is Good for the Pump if i turn it on. Also teh Problem is thet the Fans are a bit Loud like Pulsing cause the RPM are changingn evertime so maybe you can Help me should i turn Smart Fan mode on or off ?
the single PWM plug should be on the CPU header so it can regulate speed based on the CPU changes. set to smart fan and something like 20% at 20c 40% at 40c 60% at 60c and 100% at 70c
I have the thermalright peerless assassin 120 se Argb, and have the 7800x3d ! Any fan curve settings ? I currently am idling around 41-42 ! Is that good or should be lower?
Very good video, however if in my curve I specify that at 40 degrees my fan must turn at 30%, if 30% is not enough to stabilize the processor at 40 degrees, the heat will therefore increase and consequently increase fan speed? So what are the settings for? I hope my message is clear because I'm having trouble cooling my 7800X3D with a 240mm AIO without making too much noise. The AIO fans are at 50% for desktop use and the CPU is at 50 degrees... that's a lot of noise
For example, if at 50 degrees I order my fan to turn at 5%? CPU heat will increase because 5% is not enough to maintain 50 degrees. The setting is therefore useless so why not leave it on automatic?
the settings are not for setting the CPU temp, just for setting the fan speeds at the systems CPU temp. 7800x3d is a pretty warm CPU and by design it tries to reach 90c regardless. So either decrease the fan rpms to get it quiet, or undervolt or limit the CPU wattage to make the CPU meet your temperature requirements. The "normal" idle temps for the CPU is between 40-60c so your 30c setting is way to low, at least for the CPU In it's default setup. join our discord for ways to reduce the temps
Hey just got a 5800x3d with a deepcool Castle 280ex and a MSI mpg edge wifi I'm quite new to building putting everything together everything went pretty good but the fans on that AIO sound like a Corvette going down the highway when the CPU gets to 60° it's like it's other than that the CPU stays at 30 at idle any knowledge with that CPU and AIO
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Hi Mike! I put my Pc on sleep mode with an MSI motherboard and Lian Li Cool 216 RGB case which has 2 160mm in the front. After I turned my Pc on again the top front fan doesn't spin anymore. How can I fix this? Thank you!
Im having the issue of my AIO fans creating a ghostly howl sound when they ramp up and back down. There is no howl in idle, but under load there is a howl as the fans adjust speed up and down again.
My pump is only going like 1000 rpm is that ok? I haven’t downloaded windows yet so. Also I don’t have anything for cpu fan 1 is that ok? Or should I have a fan plugged into that
pumps fail for many reasons, some prefer the constant load some don't but they should all be able to run 100% all the time or they are not fit for purpose
hey Mike, I want to ask. I am using NR200P Max and my motherboard is ASUS ROG STRIX Z70 GAMING WIFI-I (ATX). I plug the AIO Pump Pin to AIO Header, however it would not boot to Windows. But if I plug the AIO Pump to CPU_FAN header, it boots to windows. Why is that? Thank you in advanced.
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Really helpful, but my new build with a Ryzen 7700x and Mag Tomahawk B650 wifi system sounds like an plane taking off. I set the pump quite high is this safe, can yoiu advise on the best settings for cooling my system.
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Love the video, I have a question though, I have the Lian Fans that go thru a controller that's hooked up to the mb by usb. Ek AIO plug is hooked up to pump fan. So how do I set these in the L-3 app?
Hey I have 4 pins for fan for an AIO argb liquid cooling. With ryzen 5 5600x with b550m VDH wifi motherboard. The only issue I am having is the LED lights for the CPU starts to flicker when the fans go higher I tried to set it on PWM since it is a 4 pin the fan started to spin really fast and the LED starts to flicker so bad. I am lost
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Thank you for this video! I tried to follow these steps, but I'm facing a weird issue. My case has 6 fans + an AIO 360 liquid cooling with 3 fans. On the Hardware Monitor dashboard, when I try to set a fan-curve for the CPU fan, nothing changes and the RPM remains constant (around 3100 RPM). When I change the "PUMP" fan curve, it affects "all" the fans (6 fans + 3 fans on the liquid cooler). And when I try to change "System 1" fan curve (the only system fan that shows a number), the RPM number does change, but I don't see any changes in any of the fans. This was a pre-built system and when it came out of the box, all the fans were set to run at full blast all the time, and it was extremely loud, so I was looking for ways to adjust the fan curves. I would truly appreciate any advice you might have. Thank you.🙏
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When I put it on a Core CPU the fans are very noisy, if I put it on another option like Chipset, will it make a lot of difference to the processor temperature?
@@mikesunboxing my processor is a ryzen 5 5600gt and it heats up too much in games between 70 and 80 degrees, monitoring the CPU the fans stay at 100 percent all the time
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Im not a yech guy far so any advice would be greatly appreciated. I have a pretty decent gaming rig that has been running perfectly for over a year but the past 2 months one set of my AL120 Lian Li fans are ramping up to 1750RPM whilst the other 2 sets are running smoothly still at 750RPM the noise is driving me mad and for the life of me I cant find a fix BIOS all I have is the CPU1 reading with no fan readings, PUMP1 0RPM System 1,2,3,4,5,6 0RPM, l-Connect 3 I cant change the fan curve but Port1 is the set running fast at 1770RPM with Port2/3 running at a stable 820RPM, MSI Centre has all the PC hardware data but control and RPM of the fans isnt within this software. Like I said computers confuse me at the best of times ive watched so many RU-vid videos trying to find a fix but nothing works, help if you can haha.
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I noticed you mentioned Dragon Centre on another vid, after I had installed MSI centre, MSI centre was awful, from false positive virus alerts on download & this was a new this week version from MSI not MS Store, the mystic light software was glitchy and nothing else would install via the "app" part, Uninstalled and cleared my reg of MSI Centre. So I remembered "Dragon" & went hunting, it's much better software & being a new build & new to Argb firmware I nearly did the firmware update thinking my firmware was out of whack - Maybe a PSA on this topic or thoughts on each bit of software?✌
@@mikesunboxing I agree, however the MSI forum, as I noted that all "Features" in the MS store version would download but "installed fail" at every attempt. Then I found the forum and found MSI centre on the MSI support pages, however that virus/glitched with Mystic Lights and wouldn't install the "User Scenarios" hence the wipe, Dragon seems to be stable for me and your tutorial also translated to dragon for me - Kudos - Have a look at the forum I don't want to post links on YT you might not see em.
Be careful with MSI center fan adjusting. Can brick your system. If that happens run windows 11 in safemode and disable msi center under startup apps and change it in bios to "unbrick" system again. If you still want to use MSI center uninstall it first (all data of the program) and then reinstall it afterwards. Stick to bios imo :)
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I seldom to never like, comment and subscribe even if the video helped me. But you deserve this one mate. Kudos and continue helping more people with your awesome videos! 🥳
Hi, Mike. As I've said before, I like to set my fans and pump running at 100%. I tried MSI center and didn't like it because it tried to takeover everything on my motherboard. The only RGB software I use is OpenRGB.
Thanks. Seems to be doing its job as intended maintaining 30c at Idle and around 50c playing Fortnite. I guess if it starts whining at me I'll be worried lol
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All this MSI UEFI and MSI Center fan control is just pathetic, only way is to install and setup Fan Control Rem0o. Even my Gigabyte Mobo from 2017 had much better fan control with UEFI and app. After you use Fan Control Rem0o you can't go back to this bs from mobo companies.
I personally wish companies would get off their high horse 🐎 and realise creating proprietary connectors is stupid and wasteful (cough* apple connectors)🤣😂😅 forcing you to choose a rgb/fan hub with particular company fans is a bugbear for many. I personally don’t use rgb fans (although a couple rgb light bars I don’t mind) and try to eliminate any unnecessary cabling in my builds
If you never change the connector you risk being held back by old connections “because of connecability” Considering its a plastic mould that houses cables in most cases… you could have proprietary connectors on everything… the only issue being a hassle to the user. I am pissed oof that i cant use Corsair fans with my MSI build.. i spent £300 on fans only for them to be incompatible out the box.. But all i had to do was get other ones.. When i rebuilt the mac i have owned.. i search parts buy parts & parts fit & work.. no RGB no BS.. so for all the proprietary connectors they make no problems during the build. The issue comes when you want to use previous models parts in a later one. Again no big deal.
update: Deepcool Pump was faulty, no issue with board. i got MSI tomahawk b650 looking at you video please help my Deepcool LS520 SE is not running at 100 % and causing this awful sound when it runs at 2550 rpm instead of 3100 what to do, i bios it is set to DC ? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1O7ablhe6Co.html
is the pump 3 or 4 pin? if four it should be set to PWM. also the pump impeller sounds like it is sticking, could be a manufacturing defect or the pump set to the wrong PWM or DC setting
wow great videos. but unforunatly msi center is completly garbage. i haven't been able to install any of the features. just gets stuck "wait download" dogshit product
