Train 2.0 - Jason Yee Did you know many of these tips are javelin throwers techniques - and yes Pat seems to Be doing them. kick Back ankle off, keep the other arm close to chest.. its like right from javelin technique slowmotions and teachings that you find even in youtube
Mikko Lappalainen That makes sense. I learned many rotation mechanics from shotput. And then I have studied how different sports apply the same principles: golf, tennis, baseball, martial arts. So what you're saying definitely makes sense! Thanks for letting me know about Javelin too!
Michael Frankly that's not helpful advice. We already understand practice is helpful. And when live in a world where everyone is maxing out their 10,000 hours. The people who achieve more do something different.
What are you talking about? I havent practised nowhere near to 10k hours and I already can shoot the puck like Ovechkin. Just wait till I reach the 10k and DESTROY your 4th step
Deal. I have the video already laid out in the Membership Area. You can sign up for free and cancel right away. Or stick around, it's up to you. Or are you one of those guys who doesn't put their money where their mouth is?
he does reveal parts of his secret himself. he says he knew from the start that his shot was his best attribute so he kept working on it. an coach from canada helped him to disguise his shot according to som article i saw (not confirmed by laine himself)
There is a weight transfer in the slap shot but it’s straight down onto the stick. He drops his right leg bringing all his weight down to torque up the stick. His weight is centered over the shaft driving it down.
Lotta people hating here but I'll vouch for this. Haven't actually seen the '4th step' in question but I'm pretty sure I know what it is from hours of playing. I agree 100% that this style of shooting is distinctly different from how everyone's been taught to shoot and you immediately notice the difference when you get the muscle memory down. Honestly it's just pretty basic physics, not sure why coaches haven't picked this up sooner. Good vid nonetheless
He also tapes only front half of his blade just like Mikael Granlund. Laine says even he doesn't know why he does it, but it reduces the friction between ice and the blade when he releases the shot and may make quite a bit of difference in timing, accuracy and force. It might be even better to leave the bottom of the blade completely without tape.
The 4th step is applying the 3 steps over and over until you don't have to think about them anymore. (Practice) I've dented 2 garage doors to shit over 15 years and I can say my shot is like this in terms of fluidity and heaviness. Been told by coaches, goalies I've played against/ with, and a former AHL player. I broke a goalies hand when he stopped a snapshot with his blocker. Obviously I don't have the pinpoint accuracy that the pros do, nor am I in the shape these guys are, but a shot is only perfected through countless repetition. Oddly enough playing tennis helped me to find fluidity in my shot, as the "weight transfer" is very similar and demands controlled explosiveness with the same rotation.
Haha... Practice of course, I simply used tennis as an example because it's what made me realize . Throwing a perfect punch is also the same set of motions. Playing and understanding other sports is proven to improve overall performance for any athlete; NHLers warmup with soccer ball juggling before games, for example. Weight lifting also comes into play here; when you lift weights you get a better gauge of your strength and better control of your body. Knowing how and actually doing it are separated by practice. I'm sure you've seen the video of Sidney Crosby shooting at his washing machine covered in puck marks when he was like 12. Also, one reason the coaches teach the wrong way of shooting is because they grew up on wooden sticks and don't understand the amount of torque these sticks are capable of withstanding and producing. It came to a point where my coaches would tell my teammates to watch me in shooting drills because they couldn't explain how I was shooting the way I was shooting.
how tall of stick should you use? i heard for better puck handling and better movement with the puck, you should have it under your chin and lower, is that true?
Shorter sticks will be way better for puck control, just look at someone like Crosby however however getting a longer stick that goes to your chin your shot will be better. I Would say I'm a pretty good hockey player and getting the stick to your shoulder is probably the best of both, you get good control plus a good shot
#1- u can't shoot w/out transferring ur weight, the way u transfer it differs player 2 player but weight transfer is essential... #2- u create torque by pushing ur weight down on ur stick towards the ice... #3- quickness & acceleration of releasing that torque either w/ ur hips(Laine) or upper body(Kessel) after steps 1 & 2 will create a helleva shot!!! I don't know what secrets ur selling but I'll tell u it ain't worth paying u 2 find out!!!
* DVo * I mean this seriously: please show me the work you’ve done to come to these conclusions. If you can present an argument with evidence I’ll accept what you’re saying. I have done the research, the analysis, and instructed and practiced for thousands of hours to arrive at my conclusions. But I am open to EVIDENCE that contradicts my views. Thanks for your comment.
like kessel and laine here, you can practice these specifc shot "fundementals" but like you said, some people are just born with great technique. he's probably just been shooting this way since he was a kid.
I signed up and tried the fourth step on the ice today. It is legit. To be honest his site has way better stuff on it than just this fourth step I wish I found it 17 years ago! If you are thinking about signing up I suggest you do.
part of the reason why his hand is so low to his body is the low flex he uses. Many other players who use much stiffer sticks are forced to keep there hands in front of their bodies to flex the stick. Laine on the other hand doesn't need much force to flex his.
last tip: Laine shoots where the stick starts to curve and lines it up with where he wants too shoot, that's why most NHL Sniper's have open toe curves
What flex are guys like Laine and Pettersson using? Yes we need to flex the stick, but is it a 70 flex stick that he's flexing a ton, or is it actually a 95 flex that he is able to flex using his wizard technique? btw the link is broken.
The 4th secret is actually part of the free-training on out thinkific website! And your rotation on your shots like Laine or Pettersson makes the stick flex conversation unimportant, because Pettersson shoots harder than players 30 lbs heavier than him (look to the 2020 hardest shot competition). -Coach Mason
@@Train2point0 Hi Coach Mason. ru-vid.comUgkxtRbmgI2_s7l47GG2LHlq21_yfvKHUqO0 is the link to the hardest shot competition you described. The internal hip rotation on his right leg is evident. I don't think it makes the discussion of stick flex moot though; Weber uses a notoriously stiff stick 122 regularly and 130 for the shot competition. He's a big boy and can flex it. Understanding how flexible of a stick is needed to achieve a hard shot with a Pettersson technique is essential! Shots power comes from acceleration of the stick, which stems from 2 phases - how much energy you can load in your stick (flexing it), and then how much energy you can transfer to the puck (allowing the stick to unflex). For Pettersson to shoot so hard, his technique needs to be dialed in for flexing whatever stick he's using a lot, and having it efficiently transfer to the puck. If the stick is not precisely balanced to his technique, he won't be able to flex it enough to pull off his shot style. If the stick is too flexible, he won't be loading enough force into it to create the hard shot. www.researchgate.net/figure/The-phases-of-the-slap-shot-include-the-backswing-downswing-a-pre-loading-loading_fig1_225360916 has a a pretty good description of the phases of a shot, but to be honest it's really out of date. I'd like to see some updated studies, but haven't dug deep on this. It's too bad the stick companies aren't working with athletes to put together peer reviewed papers regarding technique. Using a high speed camera to measure speed would outperform a radar gun for accuracy.
There’s something missing with this analysis - Pettersson’s weight-to-shot-speed Ratio is the best in the hardest shot ever. That does not sound like a stick flex conversation. -Coach Mason
@@Train2point0 exactly my point! Pettersson's weight-to-shot-speed ratio is fantastic. Pettersson is using a combination of technique and a very optimized stick flex to accomplish a great shot. Make the stick stiffer and his shot slows down. Make the stick whippier, and his shot will slow down. Things like kickpoint also matter a lot when considering technique because different techniques bend the stick in different places based on contact point on the ice, lower hand, angle of attack of the stick to the ice or puck contact, etc.
It’s partly the stick. Partly. Gimics like kickpoints are not the separating factors. Mechanically and pound for shot speed, Elias Pettersson has one of the best shots ever. -Coach Mason
This is hard to watch and listen to. You are comparing Kessel shooting off his right foot and Laine off his left. They are both righties so this means those are two completely different shots. Also please explain how a player can "load" with his top hand. Makes no sense this entire video is gibberish
I'm guessing technique is mostly to do with posture and frame, my shoulders are really rounded out forward, bad posture so I shoot almost the same way because it's uncomfortable otherwise due to the limitations of my posture, that's why most coaches advice will work for others. I bet money this guy's shoulders sit really forward like mine.
Just shoot the damn puck like you've never shot before with ultra stiff stick. No trouble breaking your wrists and not bending the stick at all and not moving the puck anywhere,
Train 2.0 - Jason Yee Laine shoots eyes closed 100% hard it's the key to that shot laine has. He never set target where he is gonna shoot he just do it 100% hard
Anton Helin good for u ever heard of humility I'm 14 and my shot is 130km. But of my friends shot is almost 160 km but he can't even get close to the net. Also what's ur name cause 13 and 150 km shot pretty impressive, if it's true u might make the NHL
