thanks alot for this video, i was staying so far away from loops just because i didnt know how to sidechain a drum loop - lets say from splice or loopcloud.. the part about using the stereo imager is a game changer i bellieve - appreciate you for this
Wow! Thank you very much. I'm just getting started with Reason and am trying to wrap my head around automating things with CV... specifically, I was trying to figure out how to use the CV inputs on a mixer channel... watched you're whole tutorial and this is exactly what I was looking for. Great tutorial!!
Wicked tutorial man, I have struggled with side chaining but this lays it out lovely. The creative one at the end with sync is inspired. Will be trying this later. Liked n subribed!
+phat handyman thanks for letting me know! Really inspires me to make more of these. Did you check out the follow video for some cool ways to use side chain?
Great work. I have to say. as far as staying in the flow state of actually making music when your inspired, The Bus seemed to be the fastest and most useful technique i learned from this as far as side chaining multiple elements to the kick drum or any signal for that matter. Some people geek out on feeling like an engineer and ive been guilty of it myself in the past but im not.. im a musician.. No hate to reason but sidechaining in ableton is literally acouple clicks without changing screens at all.. very easy very intuitive and never lose the flow of creating.... really hope that reason can add this at some point... ... this is such a ubiquitous technique in modern music.. they should have thought that one out. in my personal opinion.. much love for making tutorials... much love... peace
Question-how come some instruments can be sidechained via the Parallel routing in the back, while others can’t? I was able to set up a kick sidechained to the bass, but when I tried to sidechain a vocal to another vocal, no matter how low I set the threshold and how high the ratio, it didn’t register on the SSL
Evan, first , thank you for helping the less knowledgeable. I have an ongoing dilemma in Reason. Since you record guitar and live stuff, tell my how you monitor your tracks, without an external headphone system? I have a audient ID -22 which has a headphone out. When playing back tracks , I have to lower the faders and screws up levels when trying to mix. So how do I patch or arrange the mixer to monitor, dry or with non printed effects? My tacking could go much better if I had this simple thing resolved. Again, your generous spirit, sharing what you know is wonderful. J
Hey Evan, a little off topic. Do you know how to sidechain eQ matching feature of Fabfilter Pro-Q2 or 3 in Reasons Studio? I scoured the internet forums, fabfilter manuals, RU-vid but not able to find anything on it
+StockM.M.; I wonder a very simple and effective way that is used in LogicX or other main DAWs would be possible in Reason too, which is create an audio track with a source ( kik,) then I make sure that the side-chain audio track is lengthened through the entire duration of the song > mute the SC AudioTrack ( so we don't hear the kik,) > apply to any instrument/audio track a compressor > sidechain with the audio source (SC Audio track). Some time I used to just send the audio track (sidechain source) to a bus > apply compressor on bus channel and send SC signal to whatever instrument/audio track, always mute the sidechain track (don't want to hear kik ;) ). The SC audio track is lengthened throughout the song so I can have the same fx on, ie a pad, or keep volume level in a breakdown, the pad will not change the modulation and I can control the volume too. Very simple but effective as you have 1 channel, (1source,) then use SC how and where you want it. My case mostly on bass so transients allows the kik to come through. Let me know if I can easily do it in Reason too. Thank you!!! :)
+djalexia yep! You can do this really easily in Reason. In the video I called it a "ghost" kick drum. It's toward the end of the video. The easiest way to do this is to use a red drum as the side chain trigger. You create a bus and insert a compressor. Then hold down shift and add a red rum. connect the red rum only to the compressor's side chain input (not to the main mixer). Then you can send what you want to the bus and it will be ducked by the red rum pattern.
Hi! Got it! Thank you for taking your time and write me back. Appreciate. Out of curiosity, basically I don't have to create an AUX channel and send signal, rather send instrument/audio to the bus (ghost) SC? I just re watched the last part of the video anyway. Thx for keeping up. A.
+StockMusic Musician I GOT IT!!! I create audio track (KIK) direct output into spider (KIK is FINALLY silent) then routing signal from instrument into compressor (in) out of compressor to channel mix instrument then from spider into SC compressor... JeeezLouizeee.... All these cables I got so sketchy LOL! I am not use to it just yet... Feeeewwww... LOL!
Awesome channel man, I subbed! Really like your speed with the tutorials. Id love if you could do a video on ways to create tons of movement. For example, im working on doing some Neuro bass type sounds for some of my chilled out tunes, and If i want tonnes of movement in it them I have to create a patch with loads of movement, then I have to Bounce to audio and then create more movement which I find takes LOADS OF TIME. Is there a way to create complex unpredictable (but controllable) movement in a synth with FX rather than bouncing a million things to audio cutting and reversing.. Its just not a practical work flow. Thanks for your videos, I know my comment request is very specific.
Thanks for the sub Tom, and thanks for the question. Using the sidechain method can actually get you some good results with movement - you can use the CV cables to control things like filters and ADSR cruves dynamically. Then add a couple of LFOs to control other features and you've got a stew going on. Output's Movement VST effect is also amazing for this: www.stockmusicmusician.com/vstplugins
+Marco Fender hi Marco, thanks for the comment. I do show the ssl method as well, but I think the mclass compressor offers better control for side chain compression because it had a separate attack control instead of just a "fast" option.
I don't think I was clear, sorry. I use headphones for live acoustic stuff singing etc. When tracking, you have drums , instruments etc. you're sing, for example....the volume of the tracks is drowning out the one you're recording so, what I've done in analogue was use an fx buss on each channel to raise or Lower each track to hear myself. I could pull the master fader down and you can still hear the tracks and , of course doesn't affect the mixing levels. I did it half way with a spider but am not able to get affects to play while using this method. Am I just approaching this wrong? Again, you're a gift to us not as experienced and knowledgeable. Thank you
Hey J, thanks for clarifying - one more follow up question: are you just tracking yourself, or are you trying to create separate headphone mixes for multiple people in a live band tracking situation? If it's just you, and you want the other instruments to be quieter than the one you're tracking, the easiest solution is to probably select all of the other channels, right click, and create a new buss for all of them. The volume control on that bus will effect all of the other instruments, but not the master level of the instrument your tracking. Once you're done tracking, you can just delete the bus and your level will return to normal. Was that what you were looking for?
Stock Music Musician hi Evan That'd would work. Oh, yes, I'm tracking myself. On an analogue board it was bussed through an aux I guess. I like the send affects into a mix channel strip video. I used to do that and think it is a good way to control the fx. Again, thank you!
Thanks Marcus! Always happy to help. Shoot me a direct message on Twitter @stockmusicmuscn and we can figure out the best way to bring your ideas to life!
yes I work with reason years ago and love it. But to be able to turn the rack around and understand that world is a whole learning curve to me. But reason daw is powerful and really had so much fun using it. I will get a new Macbook this summer and planning on updating Reason. I know there is a lot of ways to make music with different daws and such. But reason is me and a huge stress relief specially when everything running right and your keyboard or piano keyboard or drug pad machine just trigger the sounds from the the computer and reason. What a good feeling yes indeed. I have some beats that I produced myself using reason on SoundCloud and type in Grown Men Production.
Some great stuff on there! Hope you get back to making music soon! There's limitless power with CV to make your parts of your beats organically evolve together, once your start experimenting with it, you'll be hooked.
+Stock Music Musician I tried connecting some cv's and all and it was fun and other connections in the back of reason rack I was trying to be creative of much as possible. I will check out your other videos so I could learn some things. Thank-you glad to be here on your channel and you explain things very easy and step by step. I can't wait until I get my new Mac book this summer. Upgrading and buying the expansion package with all the new refills and new devices, I can't wait. Forget all the other software's and Daws and hardware's. Propellerhead Reason is my family and since I took some years off making music. I know reason improve a lot and and getting better and better...
Thanks... btw, I am trying to level the sounds in my mixing and avoid peaking the main output. I was trying-to set maximizer, selig gain, I got confused wiring these 2 plugs. Do you have a suggestion how to wire the plugs ( maximizer, etc. etc.?) THANK YOU!
+Stock Music Musician Thanks... btw, I am trying to level the sounds in my mixing and avoid peaking the main output. I was trying-to set maximizer, selig gain, I got confused wiring these 2 plugs. Do you have a suggestion how to wire the plugs ( maximizer, etc. etc.?) THANK YOU!
Sure! I don't know if you've checked out my tutorial on my Reason template ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0NyN3NGbOTo.html, but I show how I set up the maximizer to avoid clipping. There's also a download link so you can get a free copy of my template and tweak it. The basic thing is to go to the rack, select the default device labelled "Master Section" and hold down shift click to create the maximizer. Then drag the wires from the "master out" of the master section to the maximizer's input, and send the maximizer's output to the Audio Output 1/2 of the "Hardware Interface" device's Audio I/O panel. The only place in Reason where clipping maters is where the digital audio converts to analog, which is at this last stage. Good luck!
Thanks-a-bunch!!! I am Going to try out the suggested st up and will check your tutorial on Reason template. I do enjoy R9 thing is after being on LP for 11 years and some on Studio One usually you gain-stage (pre faders), keep the main output to 0 and make sure you end up with the main output mix peaking -6db. I do really have to understand what is the correct setting for the volume on the main output. In R9 I see that the peaking goes always to 0 and accordingly with Propellerhead experts (I asked them about it,) the main output peak at 0db is ok on the SSL mixer within R9 . Bare with me...I am wrapping my head around as I go along. Thank you again! Alexia.
