I didn’t at first as I was focused on her singing but I rewatched it when I saw your comment. That’s so cute!! He was very adorable. That voice and such a nice, warm personality - the world lost a lot when he passed away. Rest in peace, maestro. ❤️
@@johnpagaduan3755 I’m sorry I’m this late (RU-vid notifications are not so great, half of them don’t work), but if you are still searching for it: The aria is called Per lui che adoro, it’s from Rossinis opera L'italiana in Algeri 😊
It’s no wonder really…😂 Because the lyrics she sang are full of romance - the translation: ”For him whom I adore, for him whom I treasure” That and the way she playfully flirted while singing, it’s not a surprise that our maestro who loved women very much in general, thought it was nice ;) I’m a bit jealous for Horne, a lucky lady - she got to do that!
Love watching the greats just hanging out, sharing their knowledge, learning from each other, joking, teasing each other. Really nice to see them as real people. For me, it makes their artistry all the more magnificent!
WOW I have never seen a human whistling and actually having a insane vibrato there too, what the hell did I just watch, I just love Luciano even more now.
In my humble opinion, Luciano and Dame Joan are still unmatched. And what a lovely and long marriage Joan and Richard Bonynge had. Quite a pair indeed!
@@kbhprinsesse she had both in Athens. She recalls watching that canary sing in her biography. And was also training at the Athens Conservatory after being initially refused- as well as studying privately with Trivella first,then Elvira de Hidalgo.
Dame Joan always looked lke she was working when she sang. Ms Horne the sound just appears as if out of thin air. Its also fun to see how these singers are culturally different to your average lead singer in a band.
Well it’s easier in Marilyn’s case b/c she placed her voice heavily into the mask (practically forcing it there sometimes) & eliminated chest coordination. Singing mask placed, nasal, light, bright & w/the elimination of some chest voice, is far easier than singing in the pharyngeal space w/a low larynx, vertical mouth, naturally dark & lots of chest coordination.
thanks very much for this. love pavarotti's whistle, dame joan's trill, and horne's everything. bonynge is so right on the ephemeral nature of bel canto. it is difficult to summarize in words.
This video rocks!! Thank you very much for posting it. Three of the greatest singers in the past 100 years. Dame Joan Sutherland!!! Luciano Pavarotti!!!! Marilyn Horne!!!!! Plus conductor Richard Bonynge!! This is truly awesome!!! I want this DVD or Tape or whatever!!!
Sutherland is amazing. True bel canto. Watch her breathe into her lower back and hold her mouth as an oval lying on its side. Pure Caruso!!! The throat is FREE. Don't fool with the natural placement. NO action in throat!
There is action in the throat. The tone is just centered in the middle of the palate. The throat is always engaged. The larynx is low versus raised of course but this fantasy that the throat is bypassed is absurd.
@@orion8835 Caruso would disagree. Can you sing like Tetrazzini, who said similar.? They just mean dont actively push, let the BREATH direct the sound through the throat. The breath carries the sound, there is no 'conscious' action in the throat. Obviously the throat moves resultantky. Luckily many students are smart enough to get this.
Pavarotti is not confused. "mezza voce" does mean 1/2 voice, but "messa di voce" means the placement and or adjustment of the voice. Look up the word "messa" in an Italian dictionary & you'll see what I mean. btw, did anyone notice that Pavarotti's whistle is the lead into "Strinodo lassu" from Pagliacci? lol! thanks to SueAnne for posting these, these 3 were my holy trinity when I was a young singer. :)
this is so necessary to see. I wish this kind of documentation on technique happened with all of the greats in their repertoire, Nilsson and Hotter and Melchior for Wagner, Price Corelli and Tebaldi for Verdi and Verismo etc.
Essentially there are two schools of thought on singing: The technical way based on tone and physicality and the natural way based on the fact that what nature has given you is all that is needed. The natural way is at the heart of the Bel Canto way of singing. Many of the early recorded singers up until the advent of WW2 sang this way. The advances in science brought about a different approach in teaching by looking at how the voice operated. This has subsequently distracted from the true way.
Don't talk bullshit. You don't pick an incomplete voice, without head voice development and put to sing opera "naturally". And even those who have natural voices have to learn INTELECTUALLY why and how they are doing something correct and the way to obtain it when facility is lost with ageing. ALL CLASSICAL AND OPERATIC SINGING IS TECHNICAL. The singer have to BUILD or at least DEVELOP his instrument, and one DOES NOT achieve it by merely opening the mouth and singing "naturally". At the end, art conceals art. That's why there are so many ignorants denying the existence of registers or trying to push the chest voice up.
It does seem like an affectionate, even flirtatious, teasing of Sutherland - the birds he recalls seem to be trilling the mad scene from Lucia , which Sutherland did so famously and so well, with him.
I like this sooooooooooooooooo much! The mezza di voce of Horne is awesome,, i think it is superior than of Sutherland.(sutherland is the one in red right?)Pavarotti's bird singing is AWESOME! how can he did that???!!!! Jeeezz.
Cuando vi por primera vez estos videos, me preguntaba quièn era la dama de cabellos oscuros, me imaginè que tendrìa que ser una excelente cantante para estar al lado de estos dos monstruos de la òpera, pero no sbaìa que era mi admirada Marylin horne!!!! Què sorpresa tan agradable conocer al fin su rostro... enormes los 3.
Bravo!!!!,great, it helps a lot all of us singers!!!!! I guess all of us, are followers of these extraordinary talented artists...that pobe their own words that you need double porcentage of working, than of natural abilities. Of course,in here you find most of the Lords Blessings given in this singers voices!!!!
@@gillianomotoso328 she wasn't of course. Some people are born with a talent and physical "equipment" to sing like she did and some are not. Average people can get better through studying, but not phenomenal. As Callas said "you can't become a primadonna, you can only be born a primadonna"
Tomba 2 Hmm. But can’t a singer start out misusing their instrument? I read that Kirsten Flagstad & Enrico Caruso started out that way, really breathy for her and really small-voiced for him
@@gillianomotoso328 of course, of course. But still, when they became as we know is because they already had it inside. What I m saying is that to be Caruso, Sutherland, Ponselle, Callas, you have to have talent, voice and good training indeed.
also in the first part of this video pavarotti does a demonstration of the covered sound and says it takes maybe 10 years to make a sound like that. its true because the muscles do not naturally phonate that way unless there is lots of practice and support underneath. one cannot simply pick up the music and sing it beautifully in their natural voice (as you say) immediately if they cannot technically do it. also no one wants to hear someone making adolescent sounds on this music which they will.
At the heart of natural singing is 'less is more'. Basically, the more you leave things alone with regard to the voice, the more the voice will grow and shine and the feeling of effortlessness will become apparent to the singer especially in parts where one would think great effort or technique was involved. Bjorling is a great example of a Bel Canto singer. If you listen carefully you will hear that it is essentially his speaking voice with more animation, expression and sustaining - natural.
lastly, it is by freeing the voice that you get to actually hear what the persons natural dynamic sound is. if the average joe picked up some music and started to sing, perhaps someone would find beauty in that but they aren't necessarily hearing his natural voice. they might hear hints of it, but with any number of technical problems that 99% of humans will have based on language and bad habits, what you will hear will be the distortion not the natural. no one ever sounded like pavarotti(cont.)
Great! You've made me absolutely happy in posting this Video!!! Thank you so much! I've never seen it before. But all those things i've heard from my great teachers, Maria Stader, Dame Elisabeth Schwarzkopf, who told absolutely the same about 'passagio' like Pavarotti in this film, and Gundula Janowitz. Through Maria Stader i've become legal successor of the 'Genealogical Tree of Belcanto since 1659' which you can follow back until to the founder of the Art of Belcanto, the Castrato Pistocchi!
My first time seeing these people speak. The woman in red is very interesting. Pavarotti is strange. But definitely a good moment when the woman w the short hair sings to Pavarotti, there was a purely joyful moment between the two. Cool video.
Joan Sutherland, she and Maria Callas are often talked about as being the best sopranos of their generation (of the 20th century by some) she was particularly known for the role of Lucia di Lammermano (garanteed spelt wrong) an opera by Donatelli. It is a role that is all about the techniques they are talking about in video. There are videos on RU-vid but remember the audio quality won't be as clear as today. Worth listen even if not an opera,or classical fan..... Got the right spelling... Lucia di Lammermoor by Gaetano Donizetti... Check "mad scene"
5:30 - Luciano confuses something: Messa di voce should not be confused with mezza voce (Italian, half voice) which means to sing at half strength. But that whistle is just incredible!
What a treat thank you so much for posting! :) Re the mother comment, it is true what dynamicstuff73 said. Dame Joan wasn't being disrespectful, on the contrary. Thanks again SueAnne.