How To Snowboard Steep Double Black Diamonds

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In this video I'm snowboarding on a steep run on Blackcomb mountain and I've got a few tips to help you snowboard down steep runs as well. I'll take you through all the advice I've used over the years to help snowboarders get down their first steep double black. These runs can be scary to snowboard down but with a few simple tips you can ride these runs comfortably. If you have any questions about steep double black snowboarding you can leave them in the comments. Thanks for watching!

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@rileypartington 3 года назад

The lean forward tip is really helpful. I always find myself leaning back. Also, leaning into each turn with your whole body is vital. Thank you for this vid 🙌

@mtamashiro22 3 года назад

Always fun to see the selfie stick shadow, but not the selfie stick.

@noseymosey1556 3 года назад

How does he edit it out??

@mtamashiro22 3 года назад

@@noseymosey1556 GoPro max. He made a video about it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1Ftv-4br9e8.html

@jasonfrost5025 3 года назад

Honestly that feature drives me insane. Like just leave it in. It looks so weird w/o it.

@Trevor_bow 3 года назад

Shadow people lol

@Discus1185 2 года назад

Same do

@sirdudeness1386 3 года назад

If you wanna get super radical and cray just straight line the whole double black diamond run....🤪😄😂. Real piece of advice when boarding or life in general, know your limits. You have to have the skills to pay the bills.

@aidenschwartz8282 3 года назад

You’ve helped me improve so much in just one year of watching you, thank you so much for the awesome vids.

@nicowarren7307 3 года назад

Why am I watching this I’ve gone snowboarding 2 times😂😂

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

You’ll get there!

@costoncheatham7025 3 года назад

LOL - I was thinking the same thing. I’ve been like 5 times now and I’m just getting comfortable with going down most green slopes and some blue 😀

@kels7286 3 года назад

I went down the black diamond my first day 😶 almost died 😂

@costoncheatham7025 3 года назад

@@kels7286 no way! All I could do on my first day was heel it all the way down on the green. After about 3 times down, my thighs were burning like crazy and I was catching cramps. I can’t imagine going down black diamond the first day. I’m being careful - I’m old 😀

@costoncheatham7025 3 года назад

@Chris Benson I remember when I first started - just like that. I can turn heel and toe side now. I started just to bond with my son (24) and it was really like torture. My body was getting beat up pretty bad - took two days to recoup. But now I’m really starting to have fun - can keep at it for hours with no pain.

@billycox475 3 года назад

That selfie stick shadow witchcraft freaked me out. 🤣

@liqiuicity Год назад

Refreshing myself on some snowboard tips for this upcoming season out in Tahoe. Can't wait to step up from the blacks to double blacks this season! Thanks Kevin for all your vids. You seriously helped me get to where I'm at with my riding.

@CanadianHardwoodPro 3 года назад

I like this guy. He's so chill, seems like a decent dude. Thanks for all the vids man!

@paddyd7642 3 года назад

1. Stay on toe edge when possible 2. Emphasize front foot if it's not deep pow 3. Align your body to the slope as much as possible 4. Try to feel your edge and make sure you are right on top of it 5. Prepare for bumps 6. Understand that you will fall a lot if it's essentially steep mogul run 7. Get more comfortable with speed

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

Great list 👍

@andersbodin1551 2 года назад

basically do nose butters

@Yasukechosen Год назад

How do you recover lol

@1991atlantis Год назад

@@Yasukechosen just slide down on your but or belly the whole thing haha

@JR-Canada 3 года назад

Thanks Kevin! These kind of videos are THE MOST useful of all that you guys make.

@jojosiwafan1076 3 года назад

Yoooo that tip about not leaning back so far is so clutch I shared it to a homie after watching the vid on the chairlift and he instantly got better my mans didn’t slip out once when he kept his weight square Before I passed along that tip My friend was saying that it was because he hadn’t sharpened his edges in a while

@lilkae101 3 года назад

For me the hardest part to get down was going from toes to heels but those steps you said really help a lot! Nice one bro

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

Awesome Matt!! Toes to heels can be a tough turn for sure!

@ManveerSingh510 3 года назад

When you and the ski guy at 5:49 turned side to side at the same time, it was straight money.

@Penguinchubb0 Год назад

Dang, good eyes

@carsonsiegenthaler7765 3 года назад

Your doing a great job, thank you for the helpful information and great content!

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

Thanks Carson!

@vivala1210 3 года назад

Perfect timing! About to try some Diamond runs at Mammoth tomorrow. Thanks!

@cameronbrill8276 3 года назад

I’m probably gonna try my first double black this Friday, thanks for the tips!

@alanconnor9952 Год назад

Thanks, great video. To the point tutorial and stuff that will be easy to remember on the hill. Looking forward to trying it out 🤙🏻

@0ffaI 2 года назад

5:00 This was really confidence inspiring actually. I'm used to ice coast double blacks, so I was too scared of hitting the powdery ones over West. Glad to hear it should be easier in theory 😅

@Skubae 3 года назад

good video man, first time i tried a diamon i hit a tree, didnt give up on the sport, 2nd time going i got black diamond down and now in love with the sport!

@hionaking2530 3 года назад

Cool to watch your videos man keep up the good work brother an hi from New Zealand

@ering3173 3 года назад

Thanks for this! Great advice☺️

@dj_thakur 3 года назад

Another great video on the orca gold 😲😲😲

@emilianpopov9699 3 года назад

Solid tips as always!

@jamesmahoney1868 3 года назад

This was a perfectly timed video for me. I'm a new lifty and new to boarding/skiing as well, they are having me run a lift on the Double black side. These tips will get me down there safely, thank you. Also I tell people that have no clue what they're doing to check out your channel. Hope it helps.

@WantonMyth 3 года назад

Did you draw the short straw? :)

@Frank020 2 года назад

Hope you don't get an icy day.. safety first. I would ride the chair down on bad days.

@ajsorensen2585 3 года назад

Great advice! Yeah I think with the heel edge - plenty of people have their bindings setup so their boots are over the edge, so if you're on a steep slope and lean back, high edge angle, you're quickly riding on your boots literally, aka spill city. On the toe edge your edge angle can be much higher, better balance - even if you have a wide enough deck to get a good heel edge without boots or bindings touching the snow, ice and crud snow make it even worse. Love the Whistler content, my favorite place to ride for sure! Hope you're all doing well out there!

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

Good point on the biding hitting the snow on the heels. A wider board can help riders with larger boots and bindings.

@usachiropractic 3 года назад

What size board do you use?

@claytonayers6393 2 года назад

Nice video and great tips. I'm an east coast AASI snowboard instructor. I would also like to add for anyone reading these comments for tips to try retracting or unweighting the board by flexing your ankles, knees, and hips right when you release each edge and pivot to the new edge. This helps change edges quickly with a lot of balance. Once on the new edge slowly extend your ankles, knees, and hips to control that edge and check speed. We call the turns in this video "leapers" because you rise up and hop at edge changes. That's a good technique too, but may not be the best for all steeps. Hope this helps some of you out there!

@kathypos2828 3 года назад

Great information, thank you! I'm making every mistake you mentioned. I'm working on riding stacked and holding my jacket. :)

@AndreasSchubertSnow 3 года назад

Stay golden orca boy.

@wardwoerden 3 года назад

Golden orca... looking forward to the review.

@xlaz13x 3 года назад

I’ve been riding the golden orca for a few weeks now and can absolutely say it is the best board I’ve ever ridden

@doooooooooooood1420 3 года назад

I literally make those boards! It’s so wild to see them

@zeuswrld9547 2 года назад

I went on my first double black in jackson hole and slipped out for the longest 10 seconds of my life. It was so icy and there was barely any snow. I cried the rest of the way going down no joke.

@JaredPhillips 3 года назад

That run looks so fun!

@jasonfrost5025 3 года назад

I like actually carving and going fast. Iono why people like this slow mogul stuff.

@jacob_1554 3 года назад

Nice tips!

@Thekraziesars 3 года назад

great video going to attempt my first double soon at blackcomb!!

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

Amazing!

@db17k 2 года назад

golden orca babyyyy

@jmunk91 3 года назад

Moral of the story; Black Diamond runs are no fun on a Snowboard....unless powder is present.

@sam_s_ 3 года назад

You really need quality snow for steep terrain on a snowboard. That said, first lines on deep powder on a double black may be the finest experience life has to offer.

@shawnyg16 3 года назад

Unless you love the speed!

@j0ndav1s 3 года назад

@@shawnyg16 And the pain!

@spooty6493 3 года назад

You normally don’t even get that much speed because your constantly turning if it’s that steep and there’s no powder

@SgtTonka 3 года назад

Black diamonds are great on snowboard what are u talkin about

@Bad_Riders 3 года назад

Thank you for taking time out of your day to address this Kev, is this a hint at a return to address the updates for the beginner playlist?

@lesp315 3 года назад

Can you show this in not so prefect conditions? Like super hardpack for example.

@yuangchen5399 3 года назад

What should we do to allow us go in the direction of the tip of the board instead of sliding down towards the fall line?

@MakeThatChange 3 года назад

Now I'm ready for heli skiing! :D

@MattCarl 3 года назад

Awesome video! What’s your camera setup for this one? GoPro max? If so are you rocking the GoPro pole too?

@FromSimone 3 года назад

Won’t be on a double black but this will help me on blues for sure 🥲

@ethanclapp9696 3 года назад

Hey it would make my day if you responed to this. I have been watching you for three years and i love your content. I did my first double a few days ago. Much love.

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

Ethan! That’s awesome brother! Thanks for checking out the vids the past few years!! Hopefully see ya on the mountain one day!

@luhblurr 3 года назад

Very helpful!

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

Thanks Sam!

@zppv5981 3 года назад

Hey kev! What do you record your audio on? Sounds crisp! 👌

@marcosperez2755 2 года назад

Are u using torsional twist to initiate the turn

@malcolmroy5669 Год назад

Tried my first double black diamond last year. I did another one yesterday. I struggle so much with that toe edge turn that I often just end up horse shoeing back and forth on my heal edge at decent speeds. Let me tell ya, I need to get that toe edge turn down because by the end my quads are on fire XD

@pandahz79 3 года назад

what is the filming set up? what kind of cam the angles are sweet!

@MCR1565 3 года назад

Beautiful

@cw4115 3 года назад

How much forward lean do you set in the high backs on terrain like that?

@PappyP 3 года назад

lmao tysm my coach always makes me do these steep runs and I just get terrified and heel it the whole way

@christophergruenwald5054 3 года назад

Weight forward, swing the back around. I figured that out this last season on the slopes riding moguls. I did slip out a few times on my heal edge. I’ll have to try spending more time on my toe next season.

@david92082 3 года назад

I went with the 157 Golden Orca with Falcors. Working nicely in Pow.

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

Good choice!

@inmotion_snow 3 года назад

another tip is to take long winded S turns, helps slow everything down and not pick up speed

@roy87345 3 года назад

well said!

@johnrockwell6540 3 года назад

Thank you.

@robertganditoru3261 3 года назад

Nice Tips! Keep up the good work! Nice black run, no ice = no problems:)). If(ice){ DO NOT try to brake; Go along and pray for the best; } else { HAVE FUN; }

@cookiecracker6266 3 года назад

Great video Kevin.

@TheJc16. 3 года назад

great comment cookie cracker

@cookiecracker6266 3 года назад

@@TheJc16. great complement Jc 16

@almightinesssuper3736 3 года назад

are you able to run this with step on?

@noam7911 2 года назад

What is the action camera you're shooting with?

@guccimane2802 3 года назад

Hey Kevin how do you ride in icy conditions

@henrygeorge3089 2 года назад

Tips are on the money and perfectly in line with what you’d get on a private lesson. Would have been better had someone else filmed the riding though, and here’s why: Jump turns, although they feel safe, are something you want to get away from if you really want to ride 2X blacks like a boss. Learn to commit to each turn and ride them out to develop flow rather than constantly starting and stopping with jump turns. I couldn’t imagine trying to film myself using proper turns though. They are challenging enough without a selfie-stick in hand!

@anttibuller1540 3 года назад

noticed much difference with golden orca and normal?

@narrowistheway77 3 года назад

Looks like you bought the Golden Orca, you have quite the quiver these days 🙌🏼

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

I just borrowed it from a snowboard shop in Whistler called the Circle.

@TheNecio27 3 года назад

I went from not knowing how to Snowboard to NOW being able to go on double diamonds ALL thanks to Kevin's TIPS

@amyrohr671 3 года назад

LMAO

@TheNecio27 3 года назад

@@amyrohr671 whats so funny 🤨

@cccEngineer Год назад

It was just written funny. I can see the humor in it as well. It makes it seem like you went from not knowing how to snowboard to doing double blacks in a week.

@JohnConstantinescu 3 года назад

nice advice

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

Thanks John!

@stephenmendoza7745 3 года назад

The question that comes to mind for me is if it's more fun to shuffle down a double black or ride quickly down a blue or green run?

@ryanward5770 3 года назад

Imo it's most fun to ride the level that you can do well. If you can run blues super well and fly down them but you're slow when going down blacks then blues are more fun. Blacks will make you better though so its important to do both. Eventually you will be as comfortable on blacks as you were on blues and then progress that onto double blacks

@ChaseYokoyama 3 года назад

Why am I watching this at 2AM if I live in Hawaii.

@yuriyborodin2019 3 года назад

Golden orca is super cool board

@beano12343 Год назад

my insides start tingling when i get the slightest glance of this nightmare cliff

@garrett8794 3 года назад

"With a few tips I think you can do these runs with ease and comfortably" Me, who has snowboarded once in my life: *nods enthusiastically*

@GrantTarvin3 3 года назад

Hey man what jacket is that and size!!

@BlazerDuck07 3 года назад

We have some gnarly double-blacks here on Hood.

@Herestotheroc25 2 года назад

Yes you do that shit was crazy

@jackgalle1421 3 года назад

My first double black I went in on my heels and slid a quarter down the run on my heels because I was too out of control to turn because it was icy

@amyrohr671 3 года назад

same i feel like i have more control on my heel edge

@fchas15 3 года назад

Ride the Couloir Extreme next! Antti Autti is a great inspiration!

@philippeprovost3398 3 года назад

Great video as always! Did you try the sims distortion?

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

Not yet. Will look out for that one!

@dizgotti1355 3 года назад

back hand for the control, for sure 😎.... good conditions can def make or break the day 🧊 ... 1 more tip, don't try it with a selfie stick on the first run 😅

@kathyranmo 3 года назад

Can you do one of these when there’s bumps? I’m in telluride and so many of the steeps also have bumps.

@phildinovo 3 года назад

Depends on the “bumps”. If they’re defined moguls, you need to plan your turns to follow the lines through the moguls, quickly alternating directions a lot. If it’s bumpy because it’s hard pack, you can still follow this advice but you need to keep your knees loose enough on the turns to absorb the terrain.

@Loki-lh1gr 3 года назад

The different levels of double blacks can very depending on the skill level of the park itself, the one in the video is a dub black cause of the rocks and small drops shown at the beginning

@kuanhau4323 3 года назад

Would be good to explain that toe sliding the start isn’t good to do often because it creates ruts for people who want to take their riding to the next stage and do it with flow. It can also cause icy patches making it more difficult and potentially more dangerous for those after you. Best practice on a groomed track the movements then take it into the db. Showing the next step of how to enter the db with flow would be a good target for people to aim for as the ideal

@Frank020 2 года назад

Looks hella steep. Longer boars harder to flip turn like that?

@christophermatthews555 3 года назад

Looks like this was filmed last Wednesday. Pretty good bluebird conditions that day on Whistler and Blackcomb.

@Triippy 3 года назад

Can you please do a review on the 3D boards Burton sent u !

@pigleypoop 3 года назад

Can you review the golden orca with those union atlas bindings and how that combo works? I have the same pair of bindings and been tempted to buy the Golden Orca.

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

Will let you know soon! Video on its way.

@pigleypoop 3 года назад

@@SnowboardProCamp thx you, keep up the awesome videos. I’ll be up in whistler March 19-21 maybe ill be able to see you there 😊

@pigleypoop 3 года назад

And if you could compare it to the Orca that be great, I have this years Orca. Not sure if I should sell that and get the golden orca instead.

@jagmorelife6250 7 месяцев назад

whats this run called on blackcomb

@ellstackeradventures 3 года назад

Oh man that's steep

@theamericanbrotha 4 месяца назад

Thanks for the vid. Next time I'm getting out there, I'm betting on black like Passenger 57. Time to make it happen.

@aon9902 3 года назад

What are your thoughts on traditionally waxing your board versus using DPS Phantom Wax 2.0? I just found out about this stuff but I'm not too sure about it.

@richc4157 3 года назад

I got the phantom 2.0 applied by mec 2 seasons ago and it is still working great. I think it is slightly more sticky than a super fresh wax when just standing i.e in the lift line, on wet spring snow - but barely noticeable. On the run it is fast and feels like the second or third day on a fresh wax. Basically its great so far even in spring conditions, saves time and money if you usually drop your board off to get tuned/waxed and avoids ever having that cats tongue stickiness of spring snow on an unwaxed board. I'm now working on sharpening my own edges so I never have to worry about shop tuning again. If I get another board I will definitely phantom again.

@goerdn 3 года назад

How do you like the golden orca? Mine is in the mail

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

Review coming soon!

@theHotpointHoodlum 3 года назад

Oh look at you with the golden orca....

@liamquigg4042 3 года назад

I subcibed

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

Thanks!!

@Tony-cp6vu 3 года назад

I would love some tips on how to stop snowboarding heel to heel. It's feels so unnatural to go heel to toe and very natural and comfortable going heel to heel. I'm scared that if I keep snowboarding like this, I'll never be able to correct i

@penelocent 3 года назад

I had this same problem but with my toe edge the best way to do I think is to just keep trying your toe edge the more you do it the more natural it will feel. Good luck!

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

Check out some of the toe turn and toe sliding videos in the beginner playlist. Will help a lot!

@AdellesAK47 3 месяца назад

I wish I watched this before I tumbled halfway down the mountain

@caitlinleanna5028 3 года назад

another tip, before going anywhere near the really steep stuff practice going toe to heel back and forth with your weight forward pivoting on that nose, I've seen way too many people try steep trails when they can't do that basic move and it is essential to being able to stay in control.

@kuanhau4323 3 года назад

That’s true, if people don’t have the refined fore aft movement they will struggle and often over pivot. Or be too afraid to get their weight on the front leg

@Frank020 2 года назад

Honestly didn't know that...I need to pick up that skill. Like cruising around you don't know where you will end up.

@MeepMeep88 Год назад

Lol what happens if you just go straight down without turning?

@pocketdog8382 3 года назад

I think the #1 mistake is when boarders go on runs that are too steep for their ability. They get too scared to commit to a turn (because it is scary) and they end up plowing straight down the hill on their heal edge thereby ruining the trail for others (I wish parents would instill this early with their learning children). If you do end up in this scenario and really can't make a turn then at a minimum you can zig zag/carve from one side of the trail to the other on the toe side edge (i.e. go regular to one side then switch to the other) You will have lots of control, won't get going too fast and you will leave some snow for others to enjoy. Then try a turn here and there when you feel it is safe.

@cccEngineer Год назад

Gotta remember though a lot of times it's impossible to know just how hard it is until you get to the steep part.

@RealGoogleYouTube 3 года назад

You suggested being more on your toe side than on your heels, but unless you switch legs at some point, doesn't it end up being close to 50/50 toe/heel?

@spotless008 3 года назад

@SuzN correct me if I'm wrong..but he was saying on black trails only try to spend more time on your toes than on heels (unlike the usual goal of 50:50 times) because you do have more control on your toes when the trail is so vertical (black)..And spending more time on your toes is as possible as spending more time on your heels (which most people who are learning do, they spend more time on their heels).. If you want to spend more time on toes, that just means to have longer lines (diagonal or similar) on your toes and more brief shorter lines on heels.. totally doable

@spotless008 3 года назад

Ron.. just do longer diagonal lines on your toes when on black trails..then it won't be 50:50

@joseledesma4776 3 года назад

dang! learned something valuable today. thanks for pointing out that the toes gives a better balance. its something i noticed for myself but really don't pay attention to. I tend to use my heel all the time coz i thought its safe and easier. im going to have to change that mind set. thanks again!

@DubWoodcock 3 года назад

Hype beast golden orca... hows that thing ride?

@daltonv5206 3 года назад

Guilty of leaning back while trying to turn through steep moguls. Ends up in a big ol butter and me washing out

@SnowboardProCamp 3 года назад

I had a bail yesterday not full committing to my turn.

@kadenwood5292 3 года назад

@SuzN dude, ur whole channel is just full of comments and replies telling snowboarding channels they suck. Go hit the slopes urself and teach some people there if ur so raw.