How to Spot FAKE Nintendo Games - Buyer BEWARE!! 

Taels Doll *tis* true

So you've been to the future then?

AncientPurpleDragon yeah ive been to the future

Taels Doll hmmmmm

Taels Doll What's the future like gaming wise

thats the autopilot yes dear head nod

It's from that headbanging. 🤘

The Metal Jesus 101 on how to look like you don't know when you already know!

He's listening to his intro

My neck is feeling sore at the end of the video

junk is still junk even if its real....

@@SDeww there is no junk

This world is a simulation. Nothing is real.

@@zerpderp9753 free your mind neo.

I would simply ask: "What pokemon are you?"

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graphics are gonna be sick!

Great eBay info! Thanks for the comment! :)

I did VeRO/INF there for 8 years. You caught some of the major points, but not all.

Yep VeRO and INF. There's a lot of smaller things that is too specific (and not available to the end user) to mention, but the OEM photo is the big one that nails the Asian sellers because they try to deal in volume.

You haven't the slightest idea what actually goes on behind the scenes. One eBay employee may take down 600 individual listings per day, while another might have to do the entire song-and-dance routine to take down a single powerseller, but the end result is that takes down 10,000 listings. That BTW is why you don't see sellers disappear quickly, because "one" proven counterfeit item can take down a low-level powerseller, but to take down a high level power seller you need proof that they knowingly are selling items are no good, hence why you leave feedback stating so. Powersellers don't want to lose their powerseller status because that makes them a sitting duck for overreaching complaints. PS, most of the counterfeit stuff that tends to stick around is because companies like LVMH and Tiffany won't tell eBay how to identify the counterfeits so eBay can't take down the listings without a VeRO report. But with counterfeit games, people just don't report them, and the hardest thing to take down are "multigame cartridges" if they don't mention the actual games. We all know these are fake, but because Nintendo has never filed a report for it, we don't actually know it's not. The most popular things to counterfeit on eBay from my own experience working at eBay: - Womens handbags, Hermes, Louis Vuitton (which are only made in Italy), these are bags that cost over $10,000 and hold their value, if you see them on eBay at any discount, they are fake. One employee can spend an entire shift taking this stuff down (From anywhere, but mainly people coming back from SEA), but the kinds of tells used are arbitrary and change. - Sandisk memory cards (from Hong Kong) - GBA/DS/3DS cartridges (from Korea mainly), usually with wrong box/disc artwork - DVD's (from SEA, usually Bali), Disney does not make box sets. Various TV shows and Anime in "wrong" box set configurations. The big thing is that INF/VeRO is not allowed to tell ANYONE why they took down a listing, because the seller will "fix it" and put it back up, and tell all their buddies, and now eBay has one less "tell" to use take counterfeits down. The information I've mentioned in this and the two previous comments are basically amateur stuff that people trying to resell counterfeits get caught easily. The large-quantity sellers still need a VeRO take down, or a significant number of reports of selling counterfeits to stay down. They only get their money once they are paid, however eBay doesn't get any fees from listings removed, even ones removed post-sale. So no eBay is not part of the scams.

^ This. In 8 years of Trust and Safety, I must've taken down over 35,000,000 listings.

And he seems insecure as he's doing one of the classic male power stances for the majority of the video too (hands on hips)

he just practicing his head banging

He's practicing patience..you can tell

Not just this video either lol

@@bezzaderbane9890 lol that means I'm insecure cause I do that often

Hahaha

@Aeternalis Armentarius no one cares

Ever been to an electronics store and seen a Nantondo Woo? In the big blue box with the oddly round shaped controllers? My best friend's grandparents bought one and actually have fun with it on occasion XD the music's not bad either lmao

@Aeternalis Armentarius If you wanted to tell everyone you knew nothing about firearms, you could've just said that.

@@xdevx3881 True though he wrote a damn essay over the description of a gun sound XD

Lmaoo

im so proud of you!

Broken Arrow did u like not read the rest of the comment

Tommy Delaney yah he’s pretty great lol

Great inversion of the typical creeper comment.

holy shit.

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Perfect match then

Not as bad as a fake game

as long as it works.

Well yea but also take into account that this is an edited video and they must've done some research prior to the video.

1. She co-owns game store 2.They may or may not edit, however its not scripted, its impromptu.

So is her.

Walter

retro arcade bezels Walter

Exactly. So good knowledge from her... "It is there to cover the that it is not a legit chip" :D

@@Dman3827 Sun isn't good for any label. Even official games will fade and look bad if it's exposed to the sun enough.

Oh.

***** not sure I assume they kept it

Would had thought these kids would be also clever enough to use fake info or stolen info to do shady shit, morons.

***** I wanna say 2006-2008 I'm not 100% sure it's been so long

@StarK: I would've liked to have seen a video of what you just said. Scamming kids, oughta get more than just perma-ban.

dude his daughter is hot !!!

Haha same

+Joe harper wow

+Hugh Finnegan I am not with those guys just to let you know

+kickinyafuckinass just a reminder this a nitendo video before u and hugh go to a 1 week argument

+kickinyafuckinass no disrespect by the way

lol

I prefer kirby: nightmare in dremland by nonteendoo

The Lagend of Zulda: Spirit Tracks by Nonteendo

Galaxy :p fuck Off i wear my bugo Hoss Shirt today xD

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They damn sure do.

Greedy sociopaths ruin things, people pay the price

Dr.Beef sadly it's a symptom of the insane prices most games fetch now, not only has it brought in scummy sellers who will buy up as many copies of a title in hopes of driving prices up but you got scammers passing fakes as legit to make a quick buck. if the prices ever dropped back down to reasonable levels then this would be less of a issue.

Lol even back then there where loads of fakes. My friends with gameboys and ds had loads of obvious fakes.

Dr.Beef ikr

Those are from people who saw the video, and then went through their collection and found a lot of fake games in it. So they are disliking the video for pointing out the fake games in their collection.

Probably from the people who make these fakes because they are out of business now.

every channel has "haters" for lack of a better word that dislike everything they make

I get dislikes on my videos 30 seconds after they are released.... every single week... doesn't matter the subject. Some people just love to hate unfortunately. That's ok, RU-vid still registers it as "Engagement" on my videos and it helps promote it :)

+MetalJesusRocks The amount of negativity on RU-vid has been high lately. I have someone lately that thumbs downs my videos within seconds of going live. Thanks for keeping your channel positive, it makes it one of the best channels on RU-vid :-D

Ground Control to Major Tom I’ve also gone back to playing a dsi recently and I would say generally you’ll be okay unless you’re buying Pokemon or Mario titles in that case do a thorough check before you buy any of those. Especially Pokemon

Why would you waste your money on buying games when you could just hack your ds and get all your games for FREE ?

Walter

who cares... you got the game you want, and for a cheaper price... don't be a wannabe collector

Pokemon repos play the same and cost 1/3rd the price

i like buying repros my self i picked up sweet home which you cant get a legitimate english copy.

+James Whitson that's not a fake game, that's a hack of the Japanese game to English which is completely different. A fake game would be someone selling a fake Little Sampson or in MJ's case a fake Doom II and selling it as the real deal.

*Samson sorry for the correction

+Falcon Bleck oh wow, I knew that. I guess I was just typing too quickly on my phone.

Samuel Branham don't worry

Now I can't stop noticing it.

He's discreetly headbanging

+Angel Zambrano haha! Yes! That makes it better, in my eyes. He can't help himself.

every metal listener gotta get in some daily continuously-nodding head exercise.

wat

😂🤣

Damn

It’s like they knew! Lmao 🤣

+moe “SD” dog in Seattle they will....

if you're paying $50+ for an nes or snes game, you BETTER be allowed to open it. or have them open it using your tool. if not, just tell them they've lost the sale

well, gamestop wont or whatever mall store you're going to wont, but just about every independent store ive bought at will....especially if you're spending a little.

@mattnova18 100% this. If I was spending more than $20-30 on a game, I'm opening the thing.

Good point. It also compromises the integrity of the game.

Is that a joke Honda never made published or licensed anything videogame related aside from then Licensing there cars and motorcycles in racing games

Just imagine the Nintendo logo but instead of Nintendo there is written Honda, btw i think its unnessesary to say it was a fake game. Also funny was the fact that sonic was unable to do his spinbut instead was shooting a second sonic in a weird way.

TheCludo Sorry i am confused, are you saying that the fake cart they use a Honda insignia instead of the Nintendo gold seal ?

yes

lol, I think it's funny you had to go through the trouble of spelling all that out for them.

Nothing wrong with a reproduction that high quality.

@@genesknee3574 I would say as long as they specifiy that it is a fake cartridge, I see nothing wrong with it to be honest. The problem is alot of folks want real shit. But some people just want to play the games without spending hundreds of dollars or so. And that is fine to. But alot of bootleggers try and scam and trick people, which is not ok. That is when it becomes bad.

same here, idk what kind of stores are they talking about but my local retroshops will for sure straight up say no, and that doesn´t really mean they sell fakes, maybe they just wanna make sure you are not going to break something or anything, is their merchandise after all

Yeah, and not only that, what happens if you open the cartridge and then you see another game you want instead of that one. You`ve just opened a package meaning it is now technically "re-packaged" for the next customer, making the value drop more every time someone else opens it. The only time this would really work here in SA, is when you buy from Ebay, Gumtree and other similar websites.

I see what you did there.

The solution? Ask them to open it for you and hand them your tools.

Sean Murray how does opening a game depreciate the value at all. That's just what scammers say to avoid you finding out the game is a fake.

Great, now I need a nintondo system to play my nintondo games on.

lmao Only if it cost you $2

more for me!

It should boost your interest. The hunt for real gold is thrilling :)

+Pholiage I found a sega master system with light gun, 3D glasses, and around 25 games including golden axe warrior and fantasy star. Every game was complete and got it all for 40$. The hunt is real!

Ivan B Thats awesome :D My best deals have been snipes on auction site :( No real thrifts or fleamarkets in my country for retro games. I've had to shelf my collecting atm though. My last two pickups dented the wallet some :D

Yea thats why i always pay the extra and get the sealed new ones if i can. Cause people are lying assholes.

I feel like she's always really composed and articulate

Boobs are pretty good also.

@@liammaxfield4432 What boobs?

Yea, that is an easy way to rule out most fakes. This applies to all Game Boy games (GB, GBC and GBA) in all regions afaik.

blizzz SNES as well. Those have it stamped on the back label though.

Ah, you're right. It's the same on N64 games too. The one Famicom game I have here also has a stamped letter on the back label. So it probably also applies to FC/NES games.

I have a fake SNES game that got a stamped number on it, but the numbers are not on the same "line" and it says "00"

You can pretty easily swap the back of a cheap SNES sports game and put it on the fake, so that's not exactly a fool proof way of figuring it out. I agree and made a similar comment regarding the number engraving on labels of GBA games, have yet to see a fake replicate that.

Bahahahha FRLLLL

back label, top right hand corner

Earthbound, Some Turtles in Times, Contra, Demons Crest, and Hagane.

how do you raise suspension on a cartridge? isn't that for like cars and trucks?

+Super Dev Z lmao typo! Suspicion**

+Travis Janot suspision*

+Jett Cord - thanks!! I saw that too :)

which video?

metaljesus is bae

The video is Top 10 Underrated RU-vid Gamers.

there the reason I'm watching this vid

While you have the right idea that is not exactly correct, it is an epoxy blob, but it over a bare semiconductor die that was soldered directly to the board and epoxied over to protect the die from damage.

thanks for the more apt description.

Praise be to Ryo!

FlagshipFighter Yes, that too!

I think in this case I think MEtal Jesus is the disciple.

It's the other way around if you ask me.

I agree that Kelsey is the master here.

That doesn't make it "fake" but its no longer original, and yes, you've been destroying the value of your games.

Yeah I don't see the problem. Have done this with a few of my European SNES carts too. Would much rather have an easily removable battery. They might have been original with flat batteries but not very useful.

Justin T. I would buy an official game with a battery holder at full price

Just because you don't agree with people doesn't mean its ok. You wanna pay full price for an altered game - go right ahead. You do that and can't understand why collectors won't pay you full price, then don't bitch.

Justin T. Have you ever seen a guy that didn't put a case on his iphone because it keeps it "original"

About those batteries, can any standard cell/watch battery be used? I've been wondering about this especially for my N64 Games.

@@esk8jaimes Yes as long as it fits physically, but be sure to use the kind that will last the longest. Less power means less time keeping save data

@@esk8jaimes Anything with the same voltage will in fact work.

She is pretty busy running two retro gaming stores AND a podcast... but she'll be back on my channel very soon.

Where could I find this podcast?

What is her podcast called? :)

Found out it is called Game Blitz Podcast.

Yeah, I think it would be easier for her to just come talk on your channel, while you do the editing & uploading. Saves a lot of time. Keep up the awesome content guys!

It's ridiculous, I was trying to get heart gold again after I wanted to play it again it's insanely overpriced! I got one that turned out to be bootleg but luckily I got a refund. It's put me off buying Nintendo games now though as they are always overpriced, like Twilight Princess on GameCube compared to a HD remaster in price is just the worst I've seen like why pay more money for a crappier version it makes no sense!

It's called collecting. Not that I'm into it anyway.

holly eff for real? i just dug mine out of a box when i was getting ready for a garage sale last week.

And this is why I emulate....

Stoners, nothing justifies emulating. its like if i said im poor im gonna take a bugatti out and turn it back before the dealer opens..... i find it stupid, unless its for a game that its not worth the price and its hard to find. such ass them 150+ NES games or any other game that cost more for just the game, collectors edition and other stuff dont count. them have extras

They do. That's why many of them are so good.

that's why you need to OPEN the cart and look at the board.

The main reason is a true counterfeit with no flaws would be quickly stopped via customs and Nintendo would sue whomever made it or distributed it. That is why the passable fakes like that Doom 2 fake intentionally include errors like typos and saying Nintondo to avoid getting into trademark infringement with Nintendo to separate real copies from fakes [for switcheroo scams]. A near perfect fake with no glaring flaws even to a scrutinous eye is too risky to sell.

Juan Reynoso that's weird

Serious bootleggers just take a cheap used cartridge shell and replace just the circuit board and the label to make an expensive game out of it. Shell problem solved! Reproducing an authentic cartridge shell with a logo is a bit problematic. First part is the material, which is very cheap and common enough, it's ABS, however it needs high pressure injection molding tooling. So you're paying tens thousands for the tooling, which needs to be machined, you can't just mold it off the cartridge. Then the tooling gets shipped to injection plant, and if Nintendo gets wind, which they might if there's an obvious logo, the plant will be in trouble, there will be a C&D, an inspection, lots of money lost. So you re-design the cartridge from scratch in CAD for the tooling to be machined, skip the logo to reduce issues with manufacturing plant and customs, and there you have your shells. But perhaps your mechanical design is not as good, you haven't considered material shrinkage just as well, and your cartridge comes out creakier than original. Or the pressure is lower and it warps more. Also this is mass production, you do this to push a lot of cartridges. And oh if you're really cheap, you make the shells out of polystyrene instead, which is brittle shit. You can of course go for a more handcrafted route and use a mold off an actual cartridge and use one of casting resins for the material, but it will also shrink a bit and it will be easy to tell that the material is not the same, and it's slow to make. Still it's viable if your part count is low. But keep in mind, the only reason you would be making new shells is probably if you were going to flood the market with copies of a relatively cheap game, right? So it doesn't warrant a lot of effort, and it warrants injection molded production. The next part is the label. There are particular beauty marks left by the process that a particular typography uses, and when you get it done elsewhere, it will always look a bit different. Normally, the issues will add up and the result will be blurry. But let's say you want to put in a bit more effort into it, and you fix up the sharpness by redoing the text and vector parts, and do some processing here and there, but then you likely end up with a different font. You CAN of course go all the way in and fix up everything to look perfect, but then your effort to be more expensive than what you get out of it. Of course there are reproduction people that take great pride in their effort rather than just being in it for a quick scam, but they also mark their reproductions, like with the "reproduction" word on that Metal Storm cart in the video. Because if it's not going to make money anyway because the effort is that high, what's the point of pretending that it's genuine? Safer for them that way too. I am not in the business of forgery, and never was. However, i am fascinated by the subject. :) And the drama among collectors is just SO PRECIOUS. Like those Neo Geo jerks.

That's what I hate about these videos: they never acknowledge that counterfeit GBA and DS games were a problem during the active lifetime of these consoles. Almost every "new" GBA game sold on eBay was a fake. These were traded in to GameStop/Electronics Botique stores everywhere with employees being none-the-wiser! It had nothing to do with faking rare/valuable games and everything to do with selling cheap fakes in volume for nearly full price ($30-35 for legit GBA/DS). Many faked the boxes and manuals too. Some even faked the cardboard insert!

It probably coated them $2 to make it & considering that they probably made a 100 or even 1000 of them? Profit is great for just one title. They probably mass produce a bunch of other titles in addition over a span of a few days only.

+1blisslife Costed*

+1blisslife Yes. Mass counterfeiting of DS games wasn't happening early on due to the popularity and cost of flash cards but it was in the end as the costs for counterfeiting a single game dropped significantly. Mass counterfeiting started around 2002/2003 for GBA games. My counterfeit Super Mario Advance 2: Super Mario World import I bought before the game launched in the USA even has fake lettering pressed into the cardboard tray insert! It would be very difficult for some to tell. The shrink wrap was hard enough to cut yourself on. It had a battery instead of EEPROM save (SMW was supposed to use a larger EEPROM save chip than earlier GBA games). It had a glob-top instead of a mask ROM. It had some pages from another manual and others were upside-down.

Emmett Turner Ah, okay yeah that makes sense. When they were new, worth a little more money. Now it's out in the wild.

I buy stuff from Japan all the time. Gotta look at the seller reviews on amazon and ebay. Check out the sellers webpage or facebook if they have one. That's how I buy a majority of my import saturn games and figures.

My Chinese bootlegs always take nearly a month to get here from Shenzen.

Good info about knockoffs using tin contacts

Yeah that was how I figured out the one on the right end was the real Mario Kart DS. The copper was darker.

yeah, she blew it pout of the park. I found her psyche to be really sexy.

Kelsey has my heart 😍

yep, she's absolutely gorgeous. she definitely knows her shit too.

Very true. No one with any sense is selling 45 Chrono Triggers for 24.99 free shipping.

No problem

+lord jesus haha

i love this vid 👍 for this vid😄

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I’d rather watch ...

Simps

Came for the creepy comments

Glad you enjoyed it!

Hundo percent approved.

About a centimeter above and left of the bottom right corner of the sticker.

Just posting this for reference. DS carts don't have the embossed numbers. Just the ones he mentioned.

I didn't even think of that! My copy of Final Fantasy IV Advance has some numbers on it, while my MOTHER3 English reproduction hasn't.

Of course, but I never saw it done, so for the time being, it's still a good indicator.

I had all my shit at my parents garage and they sold it without asking me two yars ago. Needless tos say I cried like a little girl 😖

This Guy I would never let them see my kids and leave them with nothing

But you are a humancollector 😱😱😱

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blessed with curse

You can with the Radio Shack near me, they sell many parts and stuff but their so badly overpriced. I bought a breadboard from them not too long ago and they apparently charged me lik 5-7 times higher than the average even in other stores. I don't recall all the details but while I don't mind paying for quality, there comes a point where it's just really extreme. Almost all their prices are seriously orders of magnitude larger than anywhere else.