thats great how much he loves that old tractor.i used to hang out with my pap and work on those old girls i miss those days in the barn.these days if it doesent have a button or a key people are totally lost. cheers to you and your dad for keeping the old girl in such great condition.
Darn right. I love this clip especially when your dad dances round . Classic. My dad bought one of these on the day I was born in 1955 and I grew up loving it. Memories THANKS
What a fortunate fella your dad is to have a daughter / son like you. I DO hope that someone was / will be able to assist - we 'collectors' are an odd lot, but generally have hearts of gold. Only sorry that this is not my field {Marshall] of interest, otherwize I'd be sending a s a p. Best wishes to you and your dad
I have to say that being an ignorant American, up until six months ago I'd never heard of a Field Marshall or a Lanz...I was just fiddling around one day and saw a bulldog video and I must say that the one lung 2 stroke hot bulb and diesel tractors stole my heart..since then I can't get enough of these..Marvels of pre war engineering that lasted well into the 60s..Please do your best to keep em running so my kids can appreciate them as much as I do..Don't scrap em Restore em,,
I've read about these being started with a charge like this but have never seen it! Thanks so much for posting, I love seeing your dad dance around as it starts! I love old tractors like he does.
I remember one of these at a boatyard I worked at. Only 1 bloke could start it by crank, only when hot, and he was a BIG bugger. Good on yer Richard :)
Loved the dance as well! the dog was really getting into it also. I dance when I get something spun up that has been down awhile! That's the time to dance is when somethin' starts.
Great video, The Marshall is my favourite tractor, I can remember sitting on one when I was about six years old and bouncing on the seat as it idled! Happy days!
Hope Dad can start it his way for many more years. The grin & the dance he did says it all! Heck even the dog got off on it startin! If Ya need some more cartridges let me know !
My granddad used to drive one of those. I used to go and stay with my grandparents back in the 50s when I was a kid and I remember him having to do this. I thought it was just my imagination, but thanks for this because now I know my memory was true :)
Dogzer is very excited about tractors that start :) Short wheelbased son of a gun - looks like your foot could slip off the clutch and dump it if you were on a hill. Cool stuff.
why does every one worry about starting them with a cartridge they was built for it and as for the crank being week they are 3 inch diamitor so it wont break .its great to see a well loved old tractor
When I was a small lad in the early 1950's, Albert White would bring his threshing machine to our farm towed behind his Field Marshal and can remember him starting it with a cartridge. We only had grey fergies.
by the cartridge to enter the cylinder is placed in the open position. When you strike the firing pin, this high pressure and hot gas floods the cylinder and pushes the piston down sharply, rotating the engine quickly enough that it can operate as a diesel the very next compression. The valve previously mentioned is automatically returned to a closed state to prevent any loss of compression through the cartridge start piping. Most farmers and contractors started these tractors by hand as
@Justy330 Depends on the year and model, the Field Marshal Series III was 50 Horse, almost double a John Deere A. Because it's a diesel, the torque curve is almost instant and HP is *right there* off idle where you have to rev up that old A to get any power out of it. I LOVE the sound of my JD A when I make her work a little... the sharp crack of the exhaust is like music.
@AbuAvital The cartridge, which looks very much like an ordinary shotshell, is placed in the breech. That was the bit that he struck with the hammer, it is removed by unscrewing it, sliding the cartridge into position and then screwing it back on again. The little projection that is just visible is the firing pin. Essentially you are loading a small breech loading cannon. Then the flywheel is placed in a suitable position (somewhat after top dead centre) and a valve that allows the gas generated
the cartridges were viewed as a bit expensive for every start. On a cold day though, if you wanted to get going smartly, you might resort to one. Or an old boy might prefer this to hand starting which can wear you out pretty quickly if the tractor is in a bad mood. I'm fairly hale and four hand starting attempts in cold weather can start your heart racing.
Do me a favour everyone who watch's this video. My dads 74 he's survived 4 strokes & prostate cancer. If he wants to start his bloody tractor with a firing cartridge let him. It's his tractor. Stop being so pompous by telling me he should start it with the crank handle. It really annoying.
I am desperately trying to locate some starting cartridges for the Field Marshall. Any ideas? I am having a hard time trying to get the to the USA! I have located a place and they need an MSDS to get them shipped. Can you or any other Marshall owners help?? My dad like your has been very ill and would like to see the Marshall started one last time with a shell! Thank you!
There would be a very good chance of the engine 'kicking' with you going over the handle! This is a 2.3 litre single cylinder - it has a kick like a mule. Also, they could start backwards if they kicked back. Manufacturers didn't fit starting methods like the FM's for fun - it is there for a reason.
A touch after T D C? Then the piston and crankshaft will 'know' in which direction they should turn. Wouldn't firing at T D C from stationary risk blowing a hole in the piston face?
Collies / sheep dogs. brought me up in their spare time - aided by farm cats, a few cows - and my parents - for feeding only. They are direct descendents of Romulus and Remus - the founders of Rome, and so are Honorary Humans. Does that explain this dog's / bitch's delight at : the FM starting; the boss dancing; and a new adventure starting? BWs
@AbuAvital A very good question. Someone can explain better than I can. But it's built in by the manufacturer & its the ignition. Come on somebody tell us how it works??
@peakhillfarm Well you don't want your dad to over do it with the handle so its probally better for him to do it like that. I drivern a Series ! and it was the best tractor I have ever drivern.
set flywheel in start mark T.D.C (top dead centre) then you open a side valve on the bottom of the cartridge tube thus opening into the head, you place the cartridge in the top of tube and screw the top on, the you light your starting paper and screw in then hit the cartridge housing setting the cartridge off forcing the piston back & ignighting the fuel thus starting the engine I WOULD RECOMMEND USING THE HANDLE AS CARTRIDGE START IS NOT TOO GOOD FOR IT AS PUTS A LOT OF CRAP INTO THE BARREL.
