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How To Terminate (Connect Up) a Twin Socket Outlet BS 1363 (How to Wire a Double Socket) 

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@robertmaxted9113
@robertmaxted9113 10 месяцев назад
I am not an electrician nor studying to become one. However, this has been one of the BEST tutorials I have ever come across. Hats off to the instructor! Keep up the great work! 👍
@monochromaticlightsource9153
@monochromaticlightsource9153 3 года назад
As a "Learner" I found this video incredibly helpful. Thank You! I'll now go back out to the shed and remake those connections like you showed, so they last 50 years!
@t1n4444
@t1n4444 3 года назад
Excellent "how to" young man!
@renifed
@renifed 3 года назад
excuse me young man
@tonyb1825
@tonyb1825 Год назад
your videos are brilliant! So many others just show diagrams or rubbish camera work. Thanks for the help
@jackfrost3560
@jackfrost3560 3 года назад
Strange that you are using a knife to strip wire first thing I learned in college was put a nick in the wire it will break. That's why t stripers are the way to go in the USA. And they are multiple function. I know it's a little different wire style but it all works the same way. By the way my little girl was born in oxford 32 years ago I'm. Not a stranger to the way things work over there wonderful country You have.
@kamwinickel7182
@kamwinickel7182 Год назад
This will now work, I now know how to wire socket outlets… Thank you sir..
@cuebj
@cuebj 2 года назад
Once again, thanks for making me feel good about my DIY electrical jobs. Starting with long wires in box, then correct screwdriver, then test termination to guage wire length for socket brand, use tight fitting earth sleeve so doesn't slip and spoil contact in earth terminal. I do all that as I fix the sloppy work of recommended, registered, reputable professionals. I think I've found a good one and hope he's available for the consumer unit replacement I'd like done before Christmas
@abdulrashid3339
@abdulrashid3339 3 года назад
Quality and pride in your workmanship. Thank you I respect.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
💕👍
@ayrshirefromabove2223
@ayrshirefromabove2223 3 года назад
Been an electrician for 26 years and I’ve never used a knife like that to remove insulation. Snips or actual wire strippers. Do everything else the same. Double back connections, leave a good length on conductors.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
Thanks for commenting and your feedback 🦾. Gaz
@tspirit99
@tspirit99 3 года назад
Mk cutters
@E6EES
@E6EES 3 года назад
I’ve been an electrician for 40 years and I always use a knife to skin cables.
@BestUserNameUK
@BestUserNameUK 2 года назад
I use my teeth😬
@AngelaPeters-fy1tc
@AngelaPeters-fy1tc Год назад
like Gaz says its to teach learners the basic hand to eye coordination skills first which is fair enough.
@vikingofengland
@vikingofengland 3 года назад
About time the industry used "Wago" style connectors on the back of sockets (I know you did a video on this a while ago).
@electricalstuff259
@electricalstuff259 3 года назад
They're hard to pull out though since you have to twist them to get them off. Could be annoying in a tight fit.
@andymccall6861
@andymccall6861 3 года назад
MK are now selling double outlets with lever style screw less connectors a la Wago
@ebrahimraeidehaghi1911
@ebrahimraeidehaghi1911 3 месяца назад
Well done, you did amazing 🤩
@monicamaprecious
@monicamaprecious Год назад
Thank you sir for your videos.. they help me alot..much love from Kenya
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical Год назад
👍🏻
@abelmicheal7504
@abelmicheal7504 2 года назад
Waw, so clear and excellent instructional video. An enormous thank you.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 2 года назад
Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
@9plusinstalaciones
@9plusinstalaciones 3 года назад
Quite nice the Hager outlets are.
@t1n4444
@t1n4444 3 года назад
Yoda you thanks it is.
@biggish-cheese
@biggish-cheese 11 месяцев назад
Great tip on what length to cut to (box + 50-70mm).
@Jack14047
@Jack14047 Год назад
Thanks. Very easy to understand.
@muhamadabia418
@muhamadabia418 3 года назад
Always remember me team work.
@remocampagna8780
@remocampagna8780 3 года назад
Excellent tutorial, Thank you. I recently bought sockets from screwfix and its a few years since i carried out a rewire. I design and make things for a living and could not believe what I was seeing. when the powers at be spout Regs and health and saftey at every breath and then I come across the very points that you made about shallow terminals, different depth terminals on the same socket and having two seperate cpc connectors, I can now call total bullshit this whole set up. First of all make all suppliers of electrical sockets conform to one standard so that all the sockets have their terminals in the same place and the same depth also have one cpc connector joined internaly (dont understand why you are connecting them seperatley but stand to be corrected if you have a valid reason ie how many people have been killed because both cpcs have been connected to one connector). Next one of the big companys like Milwaukee need to make a tool that cuts evrything in one go and folds the cable ends automatically including the correct length of the outer cable so that its a one press button operation in about 5 seconds. An electricians job is hard work and if all this was applied it would cut down the termination side of the job by 2/3rds not to mention ware and tear on the electricians hands(which matters when you are the wrong side of 50 and you still have to work until you are 67}. Lastly, this whole system needs to be dumped and changed to the wago system and be done with this. All electrician need to get together and only buy one type of socket, that would force the manufacturers of the crap sockets to change or go out of business. We need more People in charge that have a technical background not academics/ lawyers/ economist, preferably non university graduates. We need more Elon Musks(people that can think for themselves and are not sheep). Ok Rant over, going back to finish the termination now(oh joy).
@Flo-cy4ve
@Flo-cy4ve 2 года назад
You right the amount of wrong connector terminal some appliance light fitting don't mach the uk irish wire ring standard And who come with the idea for lsf cable in domestic forget how to work Cable more rigid very hard to strip bulkier and personally I prefer when a smke smell from cable Many call out when people smell something is wrong
@tonymartin3780
@tonymartin3780 3 года назад
Great simple tuition and someone who knows his screwdrivers 😀 a driver for lighting and then larger one for the sockets , I bet you don’t brake your drivers , 👍
@brianlawrence2020
@brianlawrence2020 2 года назад
Excellent and very informative videos, thanks
@danielteyehuago1633
@danielteyehuago1633 Год назад
Wow! This is very informative, thanks for sharing it with us. It worth it...wtc
@eizlan48
@eizlan48 Год назад
Super informative. Thank you so much.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical Год назад
Thanks 👍🏻
@davegahan8233
@davegahan8233 3 года назад
What neat work.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
Thanks 👍🏻
@mickfortune3844
@mickfortune3844 9 месяцев назад
Great vid, I’m not an election but with years of diy I would always Double over, less chance of coming out 👍
@cag9284
@cag9284 2 года назад
Nice tutorial
@brandonsmith6069
@brandonsmith6069 3 года назад
Really helping me whilst in at college.. doing my level 2 and currently doing this now! A lot of great tips and tricks in your videos that feels like it’s just that extra sense of insight!
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
Brandon all the best with your level 2 and a massive thanks for commenting and watching. Gaz 👍🏻
@seanmckenzie6642
@seanmckenzie6642 2 года назад
Same with me brandon👍🏾 How is it going?
@Chequr_Prostate
@Chequr_Prostate Год назад
It’s a fantastic training resource wish we’d had it when I was an apprentice, sadly though they barely had telephones let alone the internet 😢 😊
@ivandrozd8262
@ivandrozd8262 3 года назад
Great tutorial and very good demonstration! Thanks for your tutorial!
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
Thanks for commenting and watching 👍
@davidceredig-evans8772
@davidceredig-evans8772 2 года назад
Excellent video, thanks.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 2 года назад
Thanks for commenting and watching 👍🏻
@robinbanks183
@robinbanks183 3 года назад
Excellent video
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
Thanks 🦾
@zXLuke4efcXz
@zXLuke4efcXz 3 года назад
Personally I utilise the earth terminals with 1 terminal used for both earths on the Twin and the other terminal used to earth a metal back box.
@mark86sprk5
@mark86sprk5 3 года назад
At least you earth the back box. Wont be a long wait for the rest to say you don't need to, the screws do it🙄
@t1n4444
@t1n4444 3 года назад
@@mark86sprk5 You do like to "write" provocatively 😂😂😂. You'll probably get an avalanche of responses coming up with myriad reasons for and against. I used to take the view that one day I might be standing in the dock having to justify my reasons for doing a job "just so". Spending a few moments earthing a box might, rpt might, be your "get out of jail" card. Literally. Most of us will have seen this debate on other vlogs and will have formed an opinion one way or another. This debate is perhaps going to be a reprise of those.
@mark86sprk5
@mark86sprk5 3 года назад
@@t1n4444 i don't mean to provoke but I do resent negligence. Why do anything less than to maintain the integrity of a connection to the highest standard. Any argument to the contrary is not good enough when distributing electricity.
@SorinAxon
@SorinAxon 5 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot Sir.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching
@syedmaqureshi5590
@syedmaqureshi5590 2 года назад
Thanks grate production
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 2 года назад
Thanks 👍🏻
@stuffoflardohfortheloveof
@stuffoflardohfortheloveof 3 года назад
Brill. Very clear. Thanks for posting! 👍
@sukhi17
@sukhi17 3 года назад
Good video 👍
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
Thanks 👍
@adamkhan8471
@adamkhan8471 3 года назад
Brilliant content.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
Thanks for the support 👍🏻
@iantaylor6538
@iantaylor6538 3 года назад
the only time i would double over conductors is when there is only one in the terminal. what if your are taking a spur from the socket, you wouldnt get three doubled over conductors in
@truthseeker7794
@truthseeker7794 3 года назад
Me too.
@pjmcgoldrick1708
@pjmcgoldrick1708 Год назад
@@truthseeker7794 111
@PHealey1981
@PHealey1981 6 месяцев назад
Always double them if it’s a part of the ring with no spur.
@kevinwright195
@kevinwright195 6 месяцев назад
I have seen them twisted together found when testing ring and cable broken off. Depends on make they mostly have clamp type terminal I only double the earth wires.
@kenjames2214
@kenjames2214 3 года назад
Excellent instructional video, quick question, why are the wires doubled back instead of just being fitted in? Thanks
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
Fill the hole 😉. 🦾
@jimmy2045
@jimmy2045 3 года назад
Thank you
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
No problem 👍
@astro-snake
@astro-snake 2 года назад
Hi, great video! Q: Why do you need to add CPC sleeving, if it was needed why does it not come as standard? Also, if the CPC size is 1.5m, would you get the same size sleeving, or 0.5 bigger; so in this example 2m. Thank-you!
@pselectrical4561
@pselectrical4561 3 года назад
You missed the bit where you have to dig your cables out of the wall first after the plasterers skimmed over the box! Following that I would strip the sheath to the length of a standard English carrot leaving the inner insulation to be stripped using my teeth because I'm old school! 👴🏫🤐
@paphy
@paphy 3 года назад
Great thanks
@monteclark1115
@monteclark1115 7 месяцев назад
I wish North America would switch to this type of outlet.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 7 месяцев назад
🤭👍🏻
@glynnhancock9546
@glynnhancock9546 3 года назад
Great video well explained. What is the difference in the 2 screwdrivers you mentioned at the start of the video?
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
Thanks for commenting - the size of the blade on the screwdriver head the terminal one is to small to get the connections tight 🦾. Gaz
@Jys71208
@Jys71208 3 года назад
3mm _3.5mm for light switch terminal 4.5mm _ 5mm for socket terminals
@jesserawson898
@jesserawson898 Год назад
A demonstration on wiring up a single socket would be good rather than the easy peasy double always seen in videos.🙂. Especially the favourite part; cramming all those wires into the back-box. 😵‍💫
@learninglounge
@learninglounge 3 года назад
Looking good Gary :o)
@danielteyehuago1633
@danielteyehuago1633 3 года назад
also in Ghana in West Africa, we follow British standard of wiring. And we use 2.5mm for socket, thus the live, neutral and earth or CPC. And the cpc is insulated but you used 1.5mm and not insulated
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
Thanks for the great comment 👍
@johnmoore1180
@johnmoore1180 Год назад
Hi what course do I need to install fans in kitchen and bathrooms ???
@rayc1503
@rayc1503 Год назад
C&G 2365, look into part p electrical courses.
@Christosseventy7
@Christosseventy7 2 года назад
Do the terminals ever need to be torqued down?
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 2 года назад
Great question 👍🏻
@Christosseventy7
@Christosseventy7 2 года назад
Only ask because I recently invested in a torque screwdriver but can't seem to find any specification printed on any equipment.
@lemech
@lemech Год назад
There is a document listing the torque for plugs and sockets in BS 1363-1:2016 13 A plugs, socket-outlets, adaptors and connection units. Specification for rewirable and non-rewirable 13 A fused plugs
@effervescence5664
@effervescence5664 3 года назад
Always use Sheers/5-1 Knipex or strippers never a knife for inner cores. Also like to see a tiny bit of copper sticking just outside the terminal so I know there's no chance it's screwed down onto insulation also don't tend to double over unless it's a single cable. Rule of thumb for length was always taught as: from side half the width of the box past / from top or bottom double the height of the box.
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 3 года назад
It is easier, quicker (and safer) by using Wago types of push fit connectors for the stiff 2.5 T&E cable. In site work, using Wagos in the boxes it is ideal on the first fix to connect the 2.5mm ring, then test to ensure the ring wiring is OK. Any problems are identified immediately before plastering and/or wall closing. *First Fix* ♦ Connect the two 2.5mm T&E cables into the Wagos, then push the Wagos to the back of the box. ♦ Test the cable. ♦ Plasterers, wall fixers complete their work. *Second Fix* ♦ Cut 2.5mm *single* core insulated *flexible* cable to the right length (about 4 to 5 inches) - L, N and E, all insulated. Easily done on a bench. ♦ Then screw the flexible _single_ L, N & E cables into the back of the socket. Easily done on a bench. ♦ Then push the three flexible wires into the three Wagos. ♦ Then it is easy just to push the socket back and screw up as the three cables are *flexible.* No stiff T&E cables in the socket terminals putting stress on the terminals. Just push the socket back easily and only once. *Note:* ♦ With metal boxes you may need three terminal Wagos for the L and N and a four terminal for the earth - one to the socket, one for each T&E and one to the metal box earth terminal. From the Wago to the metal earth terminal use flexible cable which can be fitted on the first fix. The Wagos are neat and out the way in the box. Then a plasterer can come along with no problems after the first fix. The socket and three flexible wire tails can all be cut and connected on a bench very quickly and easily (imagine 50 of them). Then an easy job of pushing in the flexible tails into the Wagos and screw up the socket after the plaster is dry. Test again with sockets connected.
@deeqyare2897
@deeqyare2897 3 месяца назад
Teacher, some people use 1N 1L 1ground for doublesocket
@sahilmohammed8715
@sahilmohammed8715 7 месяцев назад
What mm cable are you using? Is it best practice to use 2.5mm or 4mm? Also should you always use the ring to connect multiple sockets? or can you stop at the last socket?
@johnbeck5795
@johnbeck5795 Год назад
Instead of bending wire over, how about using alloy ferrules that can be pushed over and bite onto the wire end to allow the terminal to grip better?
@kowchannel
@kowchannel 3 года назад
Thanks
@ol4900
@ol4900 2 года назад
You are a star m8
@montystelevision3238
@montystelevision3238 3 года назад
Do old Luddites like me still call the CPC the Earth?
@johnshaw1867
@johnshaw1867 5 месяцев назад
Is there not a further earth cable to connect to the box?
@jokatech1
@jokatech1 10 месяцев назад
Is that single strand 2.5mm cable? Here in Kenya nowadays, rarely will you find a single strand conductor of more than 1.5mm. For 2.5mm and above we have stranded cables only
@justmeEnglandUK
@justmeEnglandUK 3 года назад
I've always notice after copper been crushed in the terminal by the screw the copper relaxes and it become loser over the next few weeks . after testing with a toque screwdriver the reading a few weeks later is less .
@derekjenkinson8014
@derekjenkinson8014 3 года назад
How do you do 4mm cable? As doubling that would be to large.
@danielteyehuago1633
@danielteyehuago1633 Год назад
Please i want to ask you this question; what's the right order in which you should arrange your circuit breaker in your consumer unit. should it be from the lowest breaker to the highest or highest breaker to the lowest and why... Thanks
@michaelmiles5955
@michaelmiles5955 2 года назад
Does it matter which of the two earth cables go to which of the two earth terminals in the socket?
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 2 года назад
No
@dellawrence4323
@dellawrence4323 3 года назад
For years when working on my own buildings I have twisted the cable ends together when connecting to the socket, is this ok? I was taught that method many years ago by an electrician mate I used to help out on jobs
@mavisdanso928
@mavisdanso928 Год назад
Please, where can I find and buy 110V amp twin socket and 110V 15 amp single socket. Thank you.
@copyandpastification
@copyandpastification 3 года назад
changed one of my sockets at home.... one of my blue wires had current on it... I know you are supposed to switch of power supply when you work with electricity all right .... is that normal?
@arcadia1701e
@arcadia1701e 3 года назад
This obsession with doubling over has to end. There's no requirement for it, and it's against manufacturers instructions 99% of the time.
@zXLuke4efcXz
@zXLuke4efcXz 3 года назад
I think most people would agree with double over if there's only one conductor (so the screw doesn't tighten on the side of a conductor). No need to double over when there's more than one conductor though.
@samoshea219
@samoshea219 3 года назад
When it’s a single cable you get way better grip when it’s doubled back, each to their own I suppose, takes 2 seconds, less chance of a loose connection
@jonathanrose456
@jonathanrose456 3 года назад
Just wondering why you double over when you have 2 x 2.5mm2 6242y going into a socket? I believe the terminals are designed to accept them in singles, unless just 1 x 2.5mm2 present or 2 x 1.5mm2 need connecting. Connecting the earths... I was told that splitting the cpc’s into the separate terminals provides a clean earth for IT equipment, so maybe you could clarify?
@fluffallfuy511
@fluffallfuy511 2 года назад
When i was starting out as an electrician there was this company once which the boss told me off for putting one cpc in each earth terminal on a double gang socket, he said you don't do that which i was confused about why not?
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 2 года назад
Thanks for adding your experiences 👍
@muhammadrahman2156
@muhammadrahman2156 3 года назад
I got a 2 gang power socket in the kitchen plasterboard , which is convention straight from top including twin cables (as per your video). If I wanna extend 3/4 power sockets from that point, shall I connect/extend both the twin cables to the next power socket ?? ?🤔
@ahsaanfreed9626
@ahsaanfreed9626 3 года назад
No means of disrespect here but Iv never used a knife to strip cable?? Always croppers or side cutters... surely there more east to use to strip cable?
@spookyboo3164
@spookyboo3164 3 года назад
thats how they do it at college reality somewhat different
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
100% correct - learners can find faster ways of doing it on-site... I use a knife to build hand I coordination skills which is often lacking in younger learners. Thanks for commenting. Gaz
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 3 года назад
I don't see why there would be any need to deviate from this when doing it for real? Of course I understand why there may be deviation (shortcuts!), but really there is no excuse!
@martinwinfield2935
@martinwinfield2935 3 года назад
@@Fifury161 agreed short cuts will always get you in the end.
@filipe.skunk8
@filipe.skunk8 3 года назад
The entry of the cabling shouldn’t make a difference in how much slack is left inside the box.. why less when they enter from the top?
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
This is my technique yours can be different 👍. Gaz
@filipe.skunk8
@filipe.skunk8 3 года назад
@@GSHElectrical and it’s a good technique, just mentioned as box is still the same when cable enters from above/bottom and plenty of room inside. Being installations here non rewirable it’s good to leave plenty of slack for the years to come.
@JoeVis
@JoeVis 3 года назад
@@filipe.skunk8 If the cable enters from the top, it is closer to the terminations.
@danieltwyman8048
@danieltwyman8048 3 года назад
Should the conductors be terminated on top of each other? I thought that means it is more likely both conductors will come loose? Thanks
@christopherhume8896
@christopherhume8896 3 года назад
I always twist two conductors together. It gives the screw something solid to grip on and I've seen far too many sockets where the screw only secured one cable. At best the cable comes out and the ring is broken, at worst it causes arcing.
@johnnymeringues987
@johnnymeringues987 3 года назад
Did you tan a can of master before this video
@mohammadkhan4723
@mohammadkhan4723 3 года назад
Can i sign up for an electrical course with you guys please?
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
Thanks for the support 👍🏻
@zoltrix7779
@zoltrix7779 2 года назад
Being an electrician from Austalia, and knowing that the AS/NZS is very much based on the BS, I just have to ask the question that if you have a socket outlet on the wall like that, don't you require somekind of as we would call it "mechanical protection" over the cables? We would have to use conduit if you can can see it like that, not higher up, but definately at that kind of level. solid conductors are now only used in 1mm2 conductors, you don't twist the conductors together before screwing down? Also, why has no one come up with a socket yet that covers of the screws!
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 2 года назад
Thanks for watching from afar - the grey outside PVC is proving the cable with mechanical protection 👍🏻. All the best Gaz
@justrobin1234
@justrobin1234 2 года назад
CPC connection?
@grayhalf1854
@grayhalf1854 3 года назад
Nice video Gary 👍 What length would you cut the conductors on a single FCU wired in the middle of a 4mm radial circuit?
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
Maybe not as long as suggested for the sockets in this video 👍
@grayhalf1854
@grayhalf1854 3 года назад
@@GSHElectrical I figured as much, thanks! 🙏
@danielteyehuago1633
@danielteyehuago1633 3 года назад
Please I don't get what said about the 15-17mm
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
50 to 70 mm past the box 🦾👍
@danielteyehuago1633
@danielteyehuago1633 3 года назад
@@GSHElectrical ooooh! I see. Thanks for your response
@johnburgess7165
@johnburgess7165 3 года назад
Would you still double over if you've got 4mm cables? Or only for 2.5 ?
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
Only 2.5 and 1.5 into the back of sockets. Thanks for commenting. Gaz
@danielteyehuago1633
@danielteyehuago1633 3 года назад
@@GSHElectrical I think the purpose of the doubling is to fit in properly
@John0155
@John0155 Год назад
see ive been doing it this way for years but now been told to crimp the ends ? wth
@raychambers3646
@raychambers3646 3 года назад
There a few company's who don't like the use of knives (apparently you might cut yourself) it does make doing some jobs a tad difficult ! Most people ignore this advice .
@danielteyehuago1633
@danielteyehuago1633 3 года назад
I prefer the use of the pair of plier or wire stripper
@andrewweston8954
@andrewweston8954 3 года назад
By terminating the cpc's separately can lead to unacceptable R1/R2 readings.
@E6EES
@E6EES 3 года назад
Why?
@andrewweston8954
@andrewweston8954 3 года назад
@@E6EES Because R2 (cpc) is connected across the full width of each socket's earthing plate leading to an higher value than R1. The more sockets on the circuit, the more the discrepancy between R1 and R2 which should be roughly the same value/lengths when dead tested.
@E6EES
@E6EES 3 года назад
@@andrewweston8954 Absolute rubbish! The resistance is negligible. Also R1+R2 is the reading taken before the circuit is energised in order to take the Zs reading which is the important reading to ensure the required disconnection time is met.
@andrewweston8954
@andrewweston8954 3 года назад
@@E6EES Absolute rubbish? Try explaining it to the NICEIC inspector on your yearly visit. Good luck with that one!
@E6EES
@E6EES 3 года назад
@@andrewweston8954 yes, absolute rubbish. I've explained the reason for taking the R2 reading. An nic inspector would explain the same but I would hope you are not a qs as you do not seem to understand the basics.
@bernardgarrett3897
@bernardgarrett3897 3 года назад
Hi A bit off topic, but why have a busbar and the neutral wires not directly connected into each circuit breaker.? An explanation would be appreciated.
@zXLuke4efcXz
@zXLuke4efcXz 3 года назад
Say you go into the breaker with the neutral, where would it then go after that? The answer is back to the substation at the end of your road. It's the same reason you have an earth busbar, to link all the wires together so that 1 thicker cable can run off somewhere else. Think of it like your cars exhaust manifold. You don't have an exhaust for each cylinder, instead they are grouped together and have 1 larger exhaust pipe going to the rear). MCB's don't require a neutral as they just detect overcurrent. RCD/RCBO's are residual current detectors. A really simple way of explaining this (there's more too this so please don't treat this as gospel) "3.11 amps has gone out through the live, 3.11 amps has come back through the neutral (for example)" Obviously if you only get a current 30mA lower than that it's going to earth somehow.
@bernardgarrett3897
@bernardgarrett3897 3 года назад
@@zXLuke4efcXz Thank you for taking the time to answer my question.
@jonnyhuk2
@jonnyhuk2 3 года назад
When did the "live" wire get renamed to "line" wire?
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
Before that it was the phase - both line and neutral are live conductors. Example if the line has 10 amps in it the neutral also has 10 amps hence both live conductor 👍🏻
@jonnyhuk2
@jonnyhuk2 3 года назад
@@GSHElectrical I get what you're saying but I've just checked some socket wiring instructions online from Schneider and BG and they all call the cables live and earth. No reference to line. To me, line implies a low voltage signal wire carrying data (analogue or digital). You don't want to get that mixed up with a 240V live wire!
@damonbtc9701
@damonbtc9701 3 года назад
How did I know it was tight ?
@georgeturner6648
@georgeturner6648 3 года назад
Of course this all falls over in real life when replacing a socket outlet with short cable available. 9 times out of ten the terminals will be configured wrong relative to the existing layout or you’ll find a spur bodged in. All terminated in the cheapest nastiest socket outlet available!
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
All good points - the training environment is very different 👍🏻
@bambam-cm8we
@bambam-cm8we 2 года назад
Agreed 💯 an unfortunate truth, along with the taped up connector blocks buried, even twisted and taped connections and the list goes on 🤣 I spent 4 hours today chasing down a cpc continuity fault on a ring circuit....most outlets were hidden behind wardrobes, extension lead centipedes, new sockets and new colour wires in a property with the old red and black, client states "its all original" but a friend admitted to changing a faceplate and adding 1 socket. The culprit was a 2G outlet with 4 individual 2.5mm T&E rammed in connector block, with fly leads of individual 2.5mm cores to the outlet 🤔 they tried to extend the ring, I thought so I configured the terminations correctly, but now my r1+r2 are way too high 😤 trace the new cables and find a spur on a spur, on a spur THEN TO A FUSED SPUR OUTLET and continues on to the other side of the kitchen 🤦‍♂️ can't split the ring, no room in CU, kitchen and bathroom are tilled floor to ceiling walls and floors ..... if theyd got it right in the original socket or even put the fued outlet before the 1st or even before the 2nd new socket .... but nope!!! So close, yet soooo far 🤣 anyway rant over lol
@robotron313
@robotron313 3 года назад
Why is the Wiha looking VDE screwdriver not suitable for sockets and only lighting circuits please?
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
Thanks for commenting - the size of the blade on the screwdriver head the terminal one is to small to get the connections tight 🦾. Gaz
@robotron313
@robotron313 3 года назад
@@GSHElectrical Thank you that makes sense!
@johnbower
@johnbower 2 года назад
Never remove insulation from conductors using a knife, it is inevitable the copper will get marked by the blade, a tiny nick or even scratch made in the copper surface seriously weakens it at that point, causing the conductors to fracture as they get bent into shape, this is a fact not a myth.
@ef7480
@ef7480 2 года назад
'Electrician's screwdriver' as opposed to 'terminal screwdriver'? Please explain the difference.
@Ste-_.
@Ste-_. 5 месяцев назад
From someone who’s not an electrician, why do you say LINE and not LIVE? I thought I misheard you the first time but then you said it multiple times
@davidrobertson9271
@davidrobertson9271 3 года назад
Why separate CPCs but not Neutral or phase?
@paphy
@paphy 3 года назад
Anyone please. I have a two way switch in my hallway which works fine but near the front door it is a double switch 1 for hall light on the two way system and one for the porch light , but the porch light only works when the hall light is switched on . Switch off the hall light and the porch light goes off too. how to switch porch light on and off with the switch regardless of the 2 way switch. Been wired wrong surely , must be easy fix .. any electricians help . Thanks
@chrisbenjamin8843
@chrisbenjamin8843 3 года назад
Get an electrician to look, it will take all of 3 mins to fix
@danielteyehuago1633
@danielteyehuago1633 3 года назад
Your question isn't clear
@BuzzJunkey87
@BuzzJunkey87 Год назад
Hi there, i had an issue with my consumer unit whilst replacing a double socket. I had replaced an old plastic double socket with a Wandsworth brass double socket. Before doing any work I turned off the relevant consumer unit switch and tested the sockets to ensure no power was running through them. I started with adding the earths to both the socket & back box. During this time strangely the whole consumer unit tripped when the back box got connected to the rear of the socket? AND the same thing happened when I connected the Neutral? I tested the socket and cables when the consumer unit tripped in both instances and found no current running through them? Does anyone know why the consumer unit tripped when I have disabled the circuit that I’m working on? I can only think of some king of static feedback from the brass cover plate? Thanks in advance for any help with this 🙏🏽
@johnwarwick4105
@johnwarwick4105 Год назад
RCD’s will usually trip if you touch earth and neutral. There is usually enough floating voltage on the neutral to cause this ( you only need 30ma of current flow. Pain in the arse if you are working in the loft as the lights go out.😂😂
@BuzzJunkey87
@BuzzJunkey87 Год назад
@@johnwarwick4105 Thanks and yes 😅
@rayc1503
@rayc1503 Год назад
Are you sure you didn't screw one or more of the socket terminal screws in and nipped i to a cable. Change the old socket back and see if that makes any difference. Visually inpect all of the cables in the back box. Either that or you have more then 30mA earth leakage.
@BuzzJunkey87
@BuzzJunkey87 Год назад
@@rayc1503 thanks, it only happens when the cpc touches the neutral. It occurs when I pull the cables out of the back box for example.
@neilvincent9507
@neilvincent9507 2 года назад
What does it matter what screw driver you use they all do the same job.
@stephenlittle7534
@stephenlittle7534 3 года назад
Hi. I know I am an old. But when I was taught. The earth's had to be twisted together and put into one terminal with a lead to the box if using metal. (Metal box earth's go to the back box first then fly lead to socket. This it to protect the metal box from becoming live and killing somebody). Why. Well if you lost the earth in one terminal then the rest of the sockets in the line / circuit have lost the earth protection. If the circuit is a radial. ????? Why the change. ?????
@blower1
@blower1 Год назад
It's often not necessary to earth the back box anymore - all sockets for quite some time now have earthing rings around the screw holes which connect to the CPC terminals on the back of the socket (the socket has a metal bar running round the back of it connecting both screw terminal holes and all CPC terminals). This means the screws are always earthed, for metal sockets the faceplate is also always earthed. Earthing the backbox is pointless now, plus the screws from the face plate going into the back box will in turn earth it. Some have argued that an electrician who has unscrewed the faceplate and pulled it forward, could get an electric shock off the backbox if a live conductor has come loose......the reply to that is why is the electrician working live, and secondly the CPC could have pulled out or other faults exist etc. Earthing arrangements are to protect the consumer not a dozy/lazy electrician. As for twisting CPC's together - some still do it, but it's frowned upon nowadays as it makes testing a right pain in the arse - especially in CU's with them twisted in one sleaving - ugh!
@martinwinfield2935
@martinwinfield2935 3 года назад
A knife to strip conductor insulation has no control not to nick or cut the conductor. A properly adjust pair or wire strippers will not do this and is safer. You get to keep all of your fingers.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
I make my learners use a knife in the early weeks to build hand eye coordination. If we let them lose on side cutters or pliers to remove the insulation they tend to cut through the copper conductor hence the knife. Thanks for commenting and watching. Gaz
@terryoflinn6589
@terryoflinn6589 Год назад
Dont do many do you..
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical Год назад
🤔
@buckshee
@buckshee 3 года назад
Please note if you are on price work you’ll be better off signing on the dole than doing it like this.
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
When your in my workshop training you do it like this. 👍🏻
@seandempsey9396
@seandempsey9396 3 года назад
The length of the conductors are to long Ln my opinion, I myself I take hold of the conductors in a clenched fist with my hand just touching the back box and then snip of about half inch from my thumb that gives me the perfect length
@GSHElectrical
@GSHElectrical 3 года назад
You sound like you have loads of useful information 👍 maybe start your own channel to help FE learners.
@seandempsey9396
@seandempsey9396 3 года назад
@@GSHElectrical no thank you I have no idea how to plus I am two scared of the crap thrown back at me I had a heart attack 8 years ago due to stress and sh- t I was getting on Facebook, so I am happy to just watch your fab videos a learn as much up to date stuff as I can . Thank you for your hard work putting these videos together there great. SORRY for being a bit BITCHY sometimes I just don't like change for the sake of change I am old school and I love it as I know we're I am and what I am doing if it isn't broken don't fix it simple
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