did you hear about "canto a tenore" of Sardinia? Is probably the last throat singing we have in Europe. Is a combination of throat singing ad normal singing. Each village in Sardinia have its style. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z-m3V1cwnPY.html
Cuz it kinda isn't but I may be biased cuz I literally had an experienced mongolian dude give me tips when I was 12 >< These days you lads got so much access to info on the topic online that there's really no excuse no to learn it if you want to
Fun fact: the man doing the Sadukaar throat singing in the Dune Scene is Michael Geiger. He is one of my professors whom I've studied vocal pedagogy with during my undergrad at APU.
Zimmer also said it wasn't throat singing. The singer was singing the track and then a compressor was added and the dials swung back and forth to the extremes to get the effect.
I love the thought of Brandon and his mates just sitting around chilling and one of them just coming out with "wouldn't it be really cool to throat sing?" and them practicing it every night for months
I came across Mongolian throat singing before Dune 1 aired for the first time, when my oldest kid was a newborn and wouldn’t fall sleep with any other music or lullabies. This sound helped him, so naturally, as a desperate rookie father, I mastered it. When Dune 1 came out I was like … my son finds calm in the same soothing songs the Sadukaar do.
I'm starting to believe that Brandon is actually a 300 year old vampire who gathered music knowledge through all these years and now he's sharing it with us and therefore exposing himself little by little as a vampire.
@@benlow46 he could have learnt those skills from an older more experienced vampire, before dethroning him and taking over as lord of the immortal bards.
I watched one of the videos with them in which they actually teach throat singing and the American guy introducing them (who studied over in Tuva) said, "all the songs are about horses, women or nature without exceptions" 😂.
I saw them live in Utrecht, The Netherlands.. It was one of the most magical evenings of my life.. got pretty high with a friend. The best part is there was a break in the show and we went outside to smoke some more. All the Huun Huur Tu members came outside in their traditional clothes to smoke a cigarette, a bottle of heineken in the other hand. Made me love them even more.
Everyone loves mongolian music. The only ones who don't like it are the ones who never heard a mongolian traditional song. Once you get into mongolian music you immediately love it😂
Not sure why, but I'm obsessed with how both Dune films open with those short Sharduakar language blurbs. It's just so freakin' cool. I could listen to all day.
I was blown away by Mongolian Throat Singing when I watched the movie, "Genghis Blues.," in the 1990s. It tells of more than just the singing, but also the subject of some of the songs and the philosophy to which the song responds. Thank you, Brandon, for reminding me to try to cultivate this musical technique.
in 5 mins i've not only learned to throat sing (at least how to get the sound) but it also cracked the code for how to get that metal scream sound (which I've been trying to figure out for freaking years)
if you want to project that even louder. the diaphram breathing which makes no sense needs to be used. use your abs to displace your organs. Also another metal sound, since there is so many, tunnel throat, and roll your tongue under it self so the scream glides over this little space in-between the roof of your mouth and your tongue. We call this, the toilet bowl 🥸
Dude I've been practicing throat singing with various YT tutorials for 2 weeks, never got as close as I wanted it. After your suggestion it worked within a minute
I very much appreciate how you actually explain HOW you managed to make the sound in a way someone else can try to follow. I'm not sure if I'll actually try it yet, but I have an idea how to start thanks to this video.
Wow, who would've thought Brandon would get us into Mongolian throat singing? Given my Mongolian roots, I've always known about this cool singing style. Kargyraa is just a piece of the massive Khoomei throat singing puzzle, which includes all sorts of awesome overtone and undertone techniques. I haven't got the hang of undertone yet, but I'm currently getting the knack of overtone singing. Brandon, you absolutely killed it!
I've tried to throat sing FOREVER and somehow your explanation about having to vibrate my bestivular folds and to resonate with my chest made something kick in in my brain and like in two minutes i was throat singing loudly and with no pain this is insane
"the HU" are my favorite. You're pretty good at it! I'm healing from throat cancer and radiation on my vocal chords so I can barely talk. And now, as an artist, I'm obsessed with it! thank you! SUBBED!
Kargyraa has been used in TV and film for decades now. I have followed Huun Huur Tu since the late 90s but recently got to see Alash Ensemble. Prepping for the show I was surprised that I like their recordings better than Huun Huur Tu, although it's hard to beat their recordings with the Bulgarian Voices. It was such a great experience seeing Tuvan music live.
When we are learning music, people push us to study just things about our instrument, to see the world without the perspective of other instruments or musicians... In the deep of my bones I hate study just my instrument, there's no fun in live in a world with a lot of great instruments and look just for one. You need to have a focus of course, choose a main instrument it's really good. But that never mean you want to narrow yourself, read and have fun with the others, like a videogame, become great in one and use the others to appreciate the process of learning. I really admire you Mr Acker... Aways showing curiosity and genuine interest for other instruments, respecting the differences of all of them. Thank you for Everyone for reading this, sorry for the Misspellings 😅, I'm still learning english 🇧🇷
ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US. literally I have studied throat anatomy to perfect my natural way I found throat singing to be even more obnoxious. you from it to a metal scream, and use the throat tunnel, and fold your tongue under itself so its squshed into the roof of your mouth. youll make the toilet bowl growl. I didnt learn to be a metal singer, I just like to aggravate people. and honestly randomly dropping a toilet bowl growl when someone is raging at me is the best thing ever. the feeling of instantly turning their rage into bewilderment can not be beated.
Nice! I've been a fan of Huun Huur Tu for years! Thanks for making this video Brandon! If anyone's interested in how this might sound in a rock setting, I highly recommend bands like Yat-Kha and Hartyga
That's actually a pretty common beatbox sound and we call it "throat bass". Almost all tutorials say to try to clean your throat and try to focus on the vibration that that action does in your throat, when you get it, just try to extend it and drink a lot of water because it'll probably hurt a bit.
Also, Kargyra really clears your throat and warms it up. Usually after doing it for half an hour intensly, I found out that my normal singing voice is much more consistent, with more color and easier to do vocal acrobatics.
Seeing this live with The Hu was something else. Another great band that does this style of throat singing, and arguably now the most internationally famous.
Dude, i was never THAT much into throat singing. I watched this vid out of curiosity, but somehow you unlocked something on my throat, and now I spend the day summoning kenghis all around with my deep cranky singing. Thanks!
I just completely caught myself off guard because before he showed how to do it he was giving examples of what it sounded like and I thought, “hmm, I wonder if I could make that noise,” and then jumpscared myself by doing it first try.
I went to high school with Brandon! We were in choir together with Mr. Mielke! I was great friends with his younger brother Ross, we graduated in the same class. Super talented family, his twin brother Brian is also an incredibly talented artist as well. I had no idea you got famous bro! Congrats and wishing you well! 🎉
I've learned to do this by listening to the Hu and Ummet Ozcan. I still do this everyday and enjoy it as I do find it fun. I only wish I had more people to do this with and perhaps someday sing in a unison with a group.
Thank you so much! I can't explain how much this made me happy! I can actually kind of do it now, I've been trying this for a long time. Thank you for making it this simple!
As a person who also randomly became obsessed with throat singing in college I am excited that Hans Zimmer brought it in to the textures of Dune's Soundtrack. There is actually a really great short documentary here on RU-vid where he talks about the music and highlights the amazingly talented people he worked with.
I can throat sing too. Long story short, I got ADHD, and when I was in elemenary, I was the most hyperactive idiot ever. When I was bored (literally all time) I taught myself how to do this weird gurlgy noise that I calle robot voice. Our teacher showed us Throat singing from Baztorig's famous In Praise of Chingis Khan video, but I was too possessed by my ADHD to understand. Later, I went through the subject for the Mongol invasions in history during Secondary. I was imediately captivated and wanted to learn more. I later fell in love with traditional music and realised that I could throat sing due to my stupid self practicing throat singing, WITHOUT KNOWING IT, all the 6 years of my Elementay school. Later I learned Bass Kargyraa, which a very, VERY low Kargyraa and even later I learned Khomei. Now, I am practicing Sygyt style, which is the hardest. I would appreciate if you would excuse me for my terrible skills in the English language. I do not communicate with such tongue in my daily basis.
Throat singing is practiced not only in Mongolia, but also in some areas of Russia: in such republics as Komi, Bashkortostan, Tatarstan, Yakutia and others
Yeah, not just in Russia but in many other cultures. But I think he did only kayagraa way to do it. So that's why he showed mongolia and tuva. This style is popular in tuva and mongolia
Guys chill it's just one of his skills he picked up being alive and immortal for so long over the centuries Plot twist : he was there when it was pioneered for the first time
I saw first DUNE four times in cinema and that throat singing gave me goosebumps every single time. Hans Zimmer did tons of fun stuff while making DUNE soundtrack, dude's just unbelievable music mastermind. :D
I watched these guys to learn how to do it - 1 year + on my journey, self taught and i believe I'm well off with throat singing ❤😊 such a awesome and random talent to have ! Great for the lungs too
I love Huun Huur Tu, saw them live in Berlin in a church. Spectacular sound. Another well known throat singer is Batzorig Vaanchig. Alex Glenfield is a western expert on different styles of overtone/throat singing. He has a youtube channel where you can also find an indepth tutorial. His famous "Seven Styles of Overtone Singing" video was my first contact with this kind of music.
Interesting! The way I do it is without any constriction but to let my vocal folds a bit loose, using vocal fry. Then you can play around without any coughing.
I can say that what Brandon said about his friends in college its true, i also one day while i was bored i started doing this sustained growling trying to make different notes and its amazing. I feel like a warrior and sometimes i do it to self motivate myself. Note that i am no expert either
HUN HUUR TU! Saw them live twice. been praticing ever since! I love that nobody's an expert except the mongolians and tuvans. LOL Sygyt is so hard, years of practice and still not there but not giving up!
I also got super obsessed with Huun Huur Tu in my teens and taught myself how to do it! I saw them live in Utrecht, The Netherlands.. It was one of the most magical evenings of my life.. got pretty high with a friend. The best part is there was a break in the show and we went outside to smoke some more. All the Huun Huur Tu members came outside in their traditional clothes to smoke a cigarette, a bottle of heineken in the other hand. Made me love them even more.
Hahahaha I love it, 3 years ago I got really into dune and then last summer I got really into tuva and especially huun huur tu and your channel so it's always just fun to have all the interests come together. Haha your kargyraa was pretty good too
So I learned how to do fry/false fold screams for metal on my own, but I'd never realized that kargyraa was done with false folds as well! As soon as you said it I could hear it in the sound, and I was pretty surprised that I was able to replicate it almost immediately cause for once I actually knew the sensation I needed to recreate in my throat to get that sound. Awesome!
Ive been practicing how to throat sing for 14 years now, learned by watching huun huur tu, i was inspired by my friend who showed me a hr long documentary about paul pena wrote the song big jet airliners. Blind soulful musician who learned to throat by radio. Huun huur tu tours in the states, sort of Honor tradition when they met him after his passing.
I learned about Kargyraa through Richard Feynman (yes, the late Mathematician). I was watching a documentary about him, and he mentioned that, just for fun, back in the 80s (?) he and a friend wrote a letter to the Government of Tuva. I don't even remember what he wrote, but I started digging into this "Tuva" country I never heard about before and that's how I learned Kongar-ol Ondar, a singer from Tuva who made a whole album in 1999 about (other than the obligatory horse-related songs) Richard Feynman! Sadly, Kongar-ol passed away in 2013. One of his Albums "Back Tuva Future" is findable on YT (and the first song contains snippets of Feynman singing one of his silly songs). Oh, did I mention Kongar-ol also made a song with a Native-American man in the same album? It's WILD!
Hearing you describe trying it reminded me of something I did when I was younger, whistling and humming at the same time. It's sounds like a very similar effect is happening to the sound when trying it. It sounds like you're humming and whistling at the same time until you hit the right pitch and they become one
First time I heard throat singing was on a Jeff Lorber album called West Side Stories and the song is called Tuva. Gives me chills every time I hear it.
I discovered Mongolian Throat Singing through The Hu, since then I've got nuts about it. Cool to see you can do it !!! A surprise and not at the same time 😂
