This is a breakdown of my backhand form of the foot work, body rotation, pull through, and follow through that I use to put so much speed and force onto the disc.
Best looking critique I’ve seen yet. One gets a perfect look at how it’s not a throw, it’s more of a whip and rip of the disc. I’m still caught up in trying to throw the disc. This really helped get a better look at the final release point. Very nice!
2:00 the extra elbow thrust is the same concept as "lag" in a ball golf swing. The longer you can keep the forearm loaded while the elbow pushes out further the more "lag" is created and more power as a result
This is hands down the best video to check your timing. You can really see when, how and where the power comes from. I have a really bad elbow drop in my throw and I just couldn't find the reason for it. Many good players have tried to give me some hints for it, but they all have been wrong and I instantly knew that. I have been learning a lot about backhand form in about four years but still wasn't practicing my own form a lot in two years. This spring I started filming my form again and I got a really big breakthrough with it, thanks to this vid. I am "pulling" too early and that's why my elbow seems to drop. I started the pull when my toes touched the ground and after I delayed my it, my hand goes perfectly straight and is "in balance" with my elbow. So the pull starts instantly after the HEEL is touching the ground. Now it's just sweat and tears till I get that timing corrected. So Thomas Gilbert, if you're ever in Finland the beers on me and thank you for this vid!!!
Hey! What do you mean by "pulling"? Pretty sure you're not supposed to pull the disc, but let the disc come naturally in the power pocket by using the hips and lowe rbody
I'm gonna give a virtual slap to the person who thumbs downed this video. Great stuff, thanks for the info Thomas. Hope to see you smashing the competition whenever it gets back to normal!
I'm new to the sport and have watched other videos from pros. I can't add any more to the comments before this. So just want to say great job! And thank you so much!
What up Thomas greetings from South Florida I met you at you at the South Florida open you were super cool and down to earth and you signed some discs for me this video is amazing I'm going to use it as a side by side to correct my own form thanks again Thomas
Awesome video! One of the smoothest and most efficient forms out there. I found channel only recently and honestly have not followed you that much on tour but this channel brings you visibility and probably a stady income in the near future. Best of luck in your future endeavours!
I picked up a disc for the first time 5 months ago, and played close to every day since. I’ve been watching tons of form vids and built my max distance up to about 375-400’. This video was very helpful, and I look forward to recording my own form to compare and critique.
Great breakdown of your own form T. Thank you very much for great visuals and eloquence. I learned most important for me detail. Proper power pocket preparation and 90 degree necessity. Anxiously await for not videos, next season. Want to see you winning more events. Because you can. Thank you Mr.Gilbert.
Glad I found this. Got to meet this guy... oh, not meet, follow his group at last years Great Lakes for a few holes. You know, keeping social distance before it was cool. The intent being they don't know you are there or at the least you don't bother them. Yet close enough that your brain is going, "that is THE Thomas Gilbert right there in front of me." Dude just bombs and what stuck out is how smooth his motion is.
Awesome video, Thanks Thomas!!!!!! I think this video will help a lot of people. It is fantastic to see one of the farthest throwers in the world do a form break down.
This is an amazing video, it is practically impossible to slow down a youtube video just by itself enough to actually catch what happens between when the disc comes across the torso to where it actaully leaves the hand, i try all the time to catch just 1 freeze frame between those 2 points and if i do catch anything its a total blur🤙
Great breakdown Thomas! No matter how many of these I watch I still learn something new lol. I’d like to see more from you in the future for sure! Your insight on putting and how you approach tee shots comes to mind but the possibilities are endless
Important to note that from the instant your chest stops moving forward, your elbow is going in a circle 90° to your right. Your ability (strength/speed) to keep the center of mass of the disc from getting “outside” the line of force (direction your pulling) allows you to continue accelerating much longer than most throwers. Velocity is acceleration over time. Time is this instance is the linear distance you are able to actually apply force (helped by the angular velocity of your elbow extension). Very nice. Concentrate on how fast you can get your elbow to go to go in a circular motion to your right before the center of mass of the disc rips it out of your hand as it puts massive amounts of spin on the disc in the process.
This video is epic. Thank you. In the future, play some casual rounds and tell us what you’re thinking, what your line is, what disc, and why for each shot. Also how to throw on inclines/hills side-to-side or front-back slopes.
Thank you for this video bro. I think the biggest take away I got is that I was planting with a open stance. I didn’t realize that the plant foot need to stay sideways not only when planting but on the run up.
Well done, the RHBH tee shot video was one of the best I’ve seen. Not as wordy as Danny’s so easier to understand. Left arm points are clear as is the power pocket. You must be doing a hard brace with your as your follow through is less as twirl in comparison to Paige, Paul and Eagle
Very nice breakdown of the form! It’s nice to see it from other people perspective and not just Simon or Eagle if that makes sense. Lol... Keep the vids coming man we all love em...⛓👍
My success story: I only threw 175ft before watching this video and after practicing what you taught I now throw 600ft with my go to Drew Gibson Stego.
i wanna see how you get certain discs to do certain things , like how do you go about throwing a 400ft shot under a low ceiling through tunnel like what stability to choose and what angle you release to achieve the dead straight 400 in tunnel low ceiling etc?
Another key point guys is Thomas didn't really know he is doing this until he analyzed it. This is the part that I believe all of the top players just "get" it. Not saying you can't learn it, but it's a lot harder to learn this by watching mechanics vs feeling it out and getting it naturally.
Amazing and to the point, also pay attention to the head being very still and it only turns with the shoulders, ie the chin and right shoulder stay together, lastly, I think it would be helpful to see your grip and thumb position.
I definitely have taken in-depth looks before just not within the last year or so. I definitely was looking at slo-mo videos of my form a lot when I was first learning how to improve my form.
Thanks for that video. Could you share the software you are using to step through the video. I am looking for a good disc track app and a stepping function. Curious what your using. This video will help me a lot after I video myself. Thanks 👍
Great video, thanks. Maybe you could continue from here to do the same for different shot shapes like hyzer and anhyzer? What will change and maybe it could be something you like to see yourself too? And how to do that in consistent way (if there any tips on consistent angle control).
I think that all comes in how you grip the disc. The only other issue would be your weight transfer and if your arm tends to raise at the end of your throw.
Great tips! I know you've trained with Henrik before. I had the opportunity to take one of his clinics in London, and it really helped me with my backhand. I was wondering if you've ever thought of doing your own clinics, or perhaps joining Henrik on some of his?
Thomas, did you really get to 600ft without taking in-depth looks at your form before?? After this form breakdown, did you identify anything you want to change or improve?
I definitely have taken in-depth looks before just not within the last year or so. I definitely was looking at slo-mo videos of my form a lot when I was learning how to improve my form. I think I could still improve the speed of rotation and transfer of energy so the disc can come out a little faster but it’s not something I’m too concerned about.
@@thomasgilbert54 hi thomas. thanks for the response. definitely wasn't calling you out or anything, just impressed with your natural ability! keep on rockin man, can't wait to see you out there again.
How tall is Thomas? Him and I have pretty much identical body types and I am 6’ 5” so I’d really like to understand how he is throwing. I’m only throwing about 350’ currently and I would really like to get it to be around 500 as he is well beyond that mark.
Hi Thomas. My wife wants to know how she can adapt your form to keep the disc super tight to her chest when there are things in the way. Would you release a video addressing that?
Do you push off with your left leg from your toes? I think pull or elbowing can work if done after the hips engage, but do you just use your arm at the beginning? I feel like I don't use mine until it gets to the pocket
Thomas, how hard are you gripping the disc to hold on to it so long into the throw? I feel like I have decent hand strength from playing bass and guitar my whole life, but I can’t seem to hold onto the disc long enough. My hand is relaxed during most of the swing and then I try to clamp down at the end but the disc always feels like it is coming out before I can really sling it like you do. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks man!
It’s not anything specifically that allows me to throw further. It’s all the things done together with near perfect timing that all adds power to the throw. To help improve overall power, try working on one aspect of the throw at a time until it’s all synced with each other!
Great video! I'll probably be watching it many times to compare my form against yours and fix things I do wrong. A question though: Do you push off with your back leg (left leg) into the throw? Or does the leg just collapse inwards/forwards as you're rotating your hips?
After thinking and reenacting my throw I believe it just collapses in as I rotate my hips. I’m definitely not consciously trying to push off my back leg.
@@thomasgilbert54 Are you just rotating normally into when your leg drops or do you "pop" your hip to snap it into that position, I've heard people say they "pull" though to get into the power pocket but I've also head that people say they pop their hip and they motion pulls their arm into the power pocket, just by the acceleration and leverage.
I’d say focus on pulling you elbow through on the same line your arm makes when it’s fully extended. This should ensure that it stays tight and powerful that stays in a linear motion throughout the pull through
Great video, is there any drills or ways to improve the release point? How you said your hand still maintains a fist per say, I’ve been having trouble with my snap release out of my hand.
Nick Logsdon I don’t think there are any specific drill to do but while doing field work just keep trying to increase your arm speed and continuously try to keep a straight and accurate release point. The faster the arm speed the more the disc should “snap” out of your hand. It also could be that the energy you’ve built up is not quite fully transferring to your finger which would let you feel the full force of the “snap”.
I’d be into seeing a video like this for your putting stroke. Your putts come out so flat every time and I wanna know your thoughts on what goes into it. Maybe some tips and tricks for finding your putt.
Thomas I got a question, when you say "crossing well behind" at 0:40 are you referencing the placement of your right foot on the first step or your left foot crossing over. Thanks
You mention that your elbow is extended really far out ahead of your body, but it looks like your upper arm is 90 degrees from your chest. Ie. it's not really out in front of you, as much as it is because you're turning your shoulders really fast while keeping the arm at those 90 degrees. :)
