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How to tie a Bowline for rope access - Pro's and Cons of the Bowline 

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Why don’t you just tie a Bowline knot!!! That was a common comment on a recent collaboration I did with Alpine savvy on Instagram. The post was “How to tie the perfect Figure of Eight Knot”. Similar to the video I did a while ago on here on RU-vid.
Let me start off with saying, I love the Bowline! It is one of my favourite knots and use it frequently. Just not for people when doing the standard rope access work things. Sometimes we do use it and that is always after careful risk assessment with experienced rope access techs who are also well versed in other rope related activities. It is never for just normal drops, always some special rigging and lifting involved.
In this video I talk about why it is a good knot, how to tie it. How to tie off a bowline to secure it and the major disadvantages of the bowline. I share my reasons for why I think it is not a good knot for normal rope access work.
After the comment storm died down John from Alpinesavvy mentioned that a video like this might be a good addition so there is a place to point people to if the question arises again. With the Bowline being one of my favourite knot and the fact that I had it planned for late spring made me decide to get it done now ;-)
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:18 Why a video about the Bowline
1:20 How to tie a Bowline
5:20 How to tie a Yosemite Bowline
6:25 Tying a Bowline on a Bight
7:00 Why is a Bowline not good for Rope Access

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@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
What is you favourite way to tie of the Bowline?
@GreatOutDoorWorldofMines
@GreatOutDoorWorldofMines Год назад
With one hand, so the other can hold the margarita.
@HolsteiNDreaM
@HolsteiNDreaM Год назад
"There is a tree, there is a hole, the rabbit get out of the hole, goes around the tree and back into the hole !" that's how i taught my niece how to do it !
@jimpanse8763
@jimpanse8763 Год назад
@@HolsteiNDreaM Almost same here, crocodile out of the lake around the palm and back. Even I learned it like this😅
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
@@HolsteiNDreaM perfect, I can’t remember that. I mix it up with fishes and frogs and ponds and trees hahaha.
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
@@GreatOutDoorWorldofMines I must try that,, seems like the best way to do it…
@kylepatton8316
@kylepatton8316 9 месяцев назад
We use the bowline a lot in theatre rigging. Its main use for us is hauling chain hoists up to be rigged to the buildings steel. The fact that it is easy to untie is why we like it since it only needs to hold for an 20 to 25 meter pull then get untied.
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel 9 месяцев назад
That is the place I use it most often. To lift things or make a quick tie off. I love the bowline ;)
@matts1431
@matts1431 Год назад
I tie it as if starting an overhand knot, then "capsize" it, which results in the rabbit already coming out of the hole on the right side. Then just go around the tree and back in the hole. I find this way removes the need to make sure you're on the right side, its done for you. It's so incredibly refreshing to see this kind of discussion! Instead of the "If it's not in the ICOP, it's wrong" mindset. The ICOP sets the bottom line. Although it goes a long way, It can't possibly account for every situation encountered in the workplace. In those situations, it comes down to a competent person to assess risk and choose what is fit for purpose. Of course; competency is the sum of training + experience. Keep the quality content coming!
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
"Competency is the sum of training and experience"! Beautiful statement!!! Although I am an IRATA instructor I called this The Rope Access Channel ;-). On a serious note, and I am sure I can learn a lot, in my opinion the ICOP doesn't really say that much black and white on the methods we should use. Its an outline of the principles behind it. So I agree completely with your statement👍🏻
@Schatzjaeger2
@Schatzjaeger2 Год назад
"Nice and neat and parallel." Is this @AccessTechniques? 😄 I love your clean and simple style of explaining everything in great detail in exactly the correct speed. And I really like the quality. Excellent picture quality with a well balanced ligthing, really nice rope choice as for the color and great audio quality. Keep it up.
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
Haha it is isn’t it 😊… I have been saying that for years, subconsciously probably influenced by them. They are the OG ‘s of high quality, down to earth rope access techniques. No nonsense, get it done. I love their videos!!
@davidwarren719
@davidwarren719 Год назад
Great video sir! I’d love a video of anecdotes about some real life instances of rope access rescues! Some stories to provide insight into not just the techniques involved, but also other considerations which could be valuable for technicians. Have a great day!
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
Great suggestion! Thank you🙏🏻😃
@lancebosse1945
@lancebosse1945 Год назад
Thank you for all your stuff. Helps a novice out
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
My pleasure, great to hear! :-)
@iramgranados2722
@iramgranados2722 Год назад
Awesome videos, can you show how to make the double bowline!! Thank you
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
Yes I can and it is on the list. My challenge is time haha
@johngo6283
@johngo6283 Год назад
Thanks!
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
👍🏼👍🏼👊🏼
@ronnicolas4001
@ronnicolas4001 Год назад
I had a friend die when rock climbing tied in with a simple bowline. I never use that knot for life support. There are way too many steps involved in making it safe, all of which can be overlooked when tired and rushed.. Just use the figure eight, it's simple to tie, easy to inspect, and secure.
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
Agreed, and the reason I prefer it for rope access work
@Dan21rod
@Dan21rod Год назад
I'd like to show you a revised double bowline I was taught by my rappel master when I was learning rappelling for recreation
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
I’m curious. You can email it, or dm on Instagram or Facebook?
@vows2sweden
@vows2sweden Год назад
hartstikke goed, jonge
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
Bedankt jonge.. By the way, ken ik je? Jonge wordt in mijn omgeving eigenlijk alleen gebruikt als je elkaar kent of tegen een jongere praat.
@soriformateur5550
@soriformateur5550 Год назад
Agree with you 💯 for industrial rope access and I've got the same vision for the alpine butterfly knot 🪢
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
😃👍🏼👊🏼
@jimpanse8763
@jimpanse8763 Год назад
Strong video, very good advices given, especially the optical stuff 👍 We use it on constructions, but only if everyone knows it. We show each other during the partner/team check when sb. 's new. Shame one me to not know this, but what is IRATAs actual opinion to the bowline? When I had my L2 assessment the assessor told me to explain my choice of the double bowline and then start the task again with another anchor knot.
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
To my understanding the icop doesn’t have statement on many of those things. It must be risk assessed and fit for purpose. So you can basically do whatever you want as long as it is the best option for the job. Did the assessor explain why he did not want the double bowline? It could be as simple as that he is not super familiar with it and doesn’t want to take any chances.
@jimpanse8763
@jimpanse8763 Год назад
@@TheRopeAccessChannel What he said was that the bowline ain't taught so not allowed during assessments. Completly acceptable. After all he explained that their must have been accidents with this knot caused by misuse and wrong tying so it's not ok anymore.
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
@@jimpanse8763 that’s reasonable. It’s not used often and frankly for a lot of work unnecessary. But the ICOP doesn’t say we are not allowed. If we risk assess (and note it) it we should be good. With an experienced team who are all familiar with the knot as they are with a F8 it shouldn’t be a big deal. I also do a lot of Non irata work. I just have to adhere to local rules. That makes thing a bit easier to😉
@jordanfrohock9815
@jordanfrohock9815 Год назад
Another big example of why a bowline isn’t practical in Rope access is when rigging from the middle of a rope. I like bowlines when tying equipment to a line but when using slings and various anchors, F8’s are just so much more practical, plus you can use both lines that come off an F8, rather than just the 1 with a bowline.
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
Damn man! I hadn’t even considered that! I very often rig from the middle. We only lower as much rope as needed over edge. That’s such a good reason why an 8 is better to use👍🏼👍🏼. Thanks man 😃🙏🏻👍🏼
@jordanfrohock9815
@jordanfrohock9815 Год назад
@@TheRopeAccessChannel keep up the great work and content! Enjoying all your stuff 👍
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
@@jordanfrohock9815 thanks and will do👊🏼
@4ernokril
@4ernokril Год назад
I have always used bowline.
@4ernokril
@4ernokril Год назад
I am from Moldova and there are no conditions for working on ropes, so you have to cling to chimneys or various large structures. Bowline is ideal for anchoring.
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
Most of the time it is possible to create a safe working environment. It just takes time. But is starts with us on the floor education clients on the safety needs. Stay safe👍🏼👍🏼
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
Great knot.
@jennywhite1425
@jennywhite1425 Год назад
Hi Alex, I'm about to start a Ropes- That- Rescue course next week and bowlines feature quite strongly. As a rope technician, I don't use them at work either. Can you please show us how to tie the 'bowline on a coil' that you tied in this video?
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
Awesome, where are you going to that? I wont be able to get a video out that quick, but if you tie into something it is basically tying in with a bowline and leaving a tail long enough so you can trace the knot all the way back around the tie in point until you come out at the standing end and you end up with two loops.
@jennywhite1425
@jennywhite1425 Год назад
@@TheRopeAccessChannel in Adelaide, Australia
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
@@jennywhite1425 and who is teaching that course?
@jennywhite1425
@jennywhite1425 Год назад
@@TheRopeAccessChannel I'll send you a message
@jubi3050
@jubi3050 3 месяца назад
I just use the yosemite bowline to rigg retriveable, cuz the knot is pretty flat so it lets easy flip over.
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel 3 месяца назад
perfect
@patconnelify
@patconnelify Год назад
Jack sparrow approves🤙🤪
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
🏴‍☠️😃👍🏼
@johngo6283
@johngo6283 Год назад
I think Alex and Captain Jack have a rather strong resemblance…. 🏴‍☠️
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
@@johngo6283 😂 I’ll take that as a compliment ✌🏻✌🏻