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How To, Tool Making In the Year 1934 

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The Tool Room in Henry Fords Machine Shop. A place of Magic. That is, In the year 1934. As a Tool Room Machinist for over 50 years, I always thought about how hard it would be to work in that time period and in his Shop. Could I do it, Could I get the Job done. Follow along in this Video and see if I could get It done as I do a job using all the tools of that Era. I hope you enjoy this video. If you like what you see please Subscribe and then click the bell so you can see all my videos.
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@derekbernardradue10
@derekbernardradue10 3 дня назад
Thaks for that ,eye opening window in the past.😅
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 3 дня назад
I remember when I was given those Toolmaker Buttons. I was an apprentice Toolmaker/Machinist and an old retired Toolmaker gave them to me and told me to use them whenever doing precision work. Little did he know what the future of machining held for Toolmakers. Thanks for watching.
@JonLaughton
@JonLaughton День назад
Fascinating illustration - and a learning exercise for you too. These old techniques shouldn't be lost or forgotten, as they still have their uses. 🙂
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 20 часов назад
Thank you so much for watching and commenting.
@aceroadholder2185
@aceroadholder2185 Час назад
Using a wiggler with a needle point makes locating the intersection of scribed lines quicker and more accurate. This would have been the usual procedure in a tool room back in the day. The lathe face plate is really the best way to do this kind of work. Clamps with jack screws make locating the die button so much easier. Holes often have counter bores, snap ring grooves, etc. that are easy on the lathe and difficult with just a drill press. Good video that shows techniques used back in the day that are still useful in the home shop and that a good machinist should be aware of.
@slingerssecretlaboratory
@slingerssecretlaboratory 4 дня назад
Informative as always Hulkster. I always like learning the "old ways." We can all learn from history.
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 3 дня назад
Hello Doc, Those Toolmaker Buttons bring back lots of memories. I was 18 years old and the man that gave them to me was retired and about my age now. So many memories. 😉
@faroironandcustoms6577
@faroironandcustoms6577 2 дня назад
Nice video Glenn! I'm working on a transmission adaptor to put a M5OD-r2 (late 80s-early 90s F-150 5 speed) behind my 8BA flathead in my 50 Ford Tudor sedan. I used the flathead bell housing to transfer punch the flathead pattern to the work piece (6061 alm 1" thick) drilled and countersunk the holes cut out the shape and bolted it to the block. I spent probably 2-3 hours fixturing a Windsor pattern bell housing to the adapter and centering it to the crank with a dial indicator via the center transmission support hole in the bell housing. Transfer punched and drilled the dowl holes. Re checked the center and measured 0.020" on the indicator. Which means I'm 0.010" off of center. Spec is 0.005" and since you can get offset dowls I'm calling it a win. (All of this was before I got the mill.) My point is you can get offset dowls, so the manufacturing process isn't always accurate either. And it makes sense if they were using fixture plates to drill holes in production. Second, same car. In 49 Ford went to independent front suspension on cars, it is a set op of trunnions on the A-frame ends and a king pin through the knuckle. (No ball joints yet.) The upper and lower trunnion threads are 3/4" 11 thread pitch. Normal standard for 3/4" is 3/4" 10. I found this out when I started to make a repair of the left lower A-frame. The hole is badly rounded out and the bolt threads through the ends of the A-frame as well as the trunnion. Thought you might find that interesting about the weird thread pitch on a production car. Have a good week!!!
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 2 дня назад
You sound like a busy guy. You know, in 1949 machining standards was just getting started. The 3/4-11 threaded holes may have been a mistake due to an apprentice making the bolts to the wrong pitch. Don't waste the bolts just change the hole. Did you know that back then a bolt made by one company didn't necessarily fit specs of another company. 🤔 Anyways, Thanks for watching, Hope you enjoyed the video.
@faroironandcustoms6577
@faroironandcustoms6577 2 дня назад
@@GlennNowOnRU-vid Not as busy as I'd like to be. But we are getting there.
@alecmaxwell7945
@alecmaxwell7945 3 дня назад
Wow that was an eye opener into the past. Many thoughts arise from that and yes I am glad we have the tools and methods now!
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 3 дня назад
I had soooo much fun doing that video. I learned from the old timers that used that kind of tooling. They were great people and great Craftsman. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. Until next time, Enjoy.
@johnwynne-qx6br
@johnwynne-qx6br 3 дня назад
Very interesting and informative 👍
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 2 дня назад
Thank You, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@RustyInventions-wz6ir
@RustyInventions-wz6ir 2 дня назад
Very nice work sir. That book looks interesting. A piece of history. Love it
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 2 дня назад
The book is from Henry Fords Trade School. He had his own School to teach his Apprentice Machinists. Great man great book. Thank You for watching and commenting.
@RustyInventions-wz6ir
@RustyInventions-wz6ir 2 дня назад
@@GlennNowOnRU-vid that really sounds great
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 3 дня назад
wonderful......I have wanted to use the tool makers pins I have... but never knew how... now I do, but I will have to buy some gauge blocks I have been wanting... man, that was tedious......thanks so much for showing this old man the old ways.... my height gauge with scribe and dial indicator has spoiled me as far as marking out holes.... Cheers from Cape Canaveral, Florida. Paul
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 3 дня назад
Hello Paul, I was an apprentice Machinist/Toolmaker in the 60's and the man that gave me those tools was a Retired Toolmaker. Every day at lunch he would stop by the shop and tell machining stories that took place in the early 1900's. I think of him often. Thank you for watching and commenting. Life is good 👍 .
@a-k-jun-1
@a-k-jun-1 3 дня назад
Not sure if it's related or not but 5-40 threads are very common on pre WWII firearms. Less common but still used on some modern ones as well.
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 3 дня назад
I'm glad I mentioned that thread size in the video. I never messed around with guns, but that would make sense. I remember the old timers when I was an apprentice machinist. (Almost 60 years ago) They all seemed to go with that size. Interesting. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@curtwuollet2912
@curtwuollet2912 2 дня назад
Now it only takes $50,000 worth of machines to do that.
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube День назад
Don't forget the Computers and Software needed to run those machines.
@pcka12
@pcka12 День назад
Are these 'toolmakers buttons' also called 'machinists buttons'? I was taught this sort of approach in the 1970s!
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube День назад
Machinist/Toolmaker Buttons. I've heard them called both. I've also heard them called layout position Buttons. Thanks for watching.
@EitriBrokkr
@EitriBrokkr 3 дня назад
What did you use to drill it before you reamed? Wouldn't a drill bit follow the previous threaded hole?
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 2 дня назад
I used a center cutting 4 flute end mill. And, yes a drill bit would follow the previous threaded hole. The first threaded hole was to fasten the button, then place the button in the proper place with the help of the gauge blocks. Indicate the proper place on the drill press and stab (To use down force only) in the new proper hole location with an end mill so that the new hole is in the proper location. The key word is Precision. How close do you want the hole to being in the Proper Location. [.01 or .0001]
@EitriBrokkr
@EitriBrokkr 2 дня назад
@@GlennNowOnRU-vid Thank You. Now the real question is, how did they do it in 1934? As the endmill wasn't invented until the 1940's
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 2 дня назад
OK, you got me. Yes I used an end mill and yes the end mill wasn't invented until the 40's. I got lazy and didn't want to take the time to sharpen a drill properly. From my understanding a drill bit cut very short and ground with a flat bottom was used. Flat bottom drills where also used to drill half holes (holes on the edge of a part) they don't deflect as easily, making them perfect for this application.
@EitriBrokkr
@EitriBrokkr 2 дня назад
@@GlennNowOnRU-vid Sorry, it wasn't meant to be a gotcha question. Historical machining practices are fascinating...and the only ones I can afford to do 🤣 Any chance you'd make a video about these types of drills? Geometries and such?
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 2 дня назад
It was a good question. I knew when I was putting the end mill into the drill press I could hear the Old Timer that gave me the buttons saying Glenn you know better than that. But my laziness got the better of me. Thanks for watching and commenting. I will try and put together a video to show how I sharpen a flat bottom drill. It is quite the pain in the butt.
@stumccabe
@stumccabe 2 дня назад
"Herm aphro dite", not "ham orpho dite"!
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube День назад
Thank you for watching and commenting.
@JonLaughton
@JonLaughton День назад
He's right with the pronunciation. Comes from the term for a creature having both male and female characteristics, or in this case, the characteristics of both calipers and dividers. I don't know whether they have alternative names in the USA, but in the UK they're more commonly referred to a "odd leg callipers" or sometimes "jennys." (Dunno what the origin of the last term is.) 🙂
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 19 часов назад
@@JonLaughton I stand corrected. Thanks for watching.
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 19 часов назад
@@JonLaughton I guess this was a learning experience.
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 19 часов назад
@@stumccabe I stand corrected.
@chrisbrady-t1u
@chrisbrady-t1u 3 дня назад
Yeah,go back to how they did it in 1934.First thing,take off your safety glasses
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 2 дня назад
Lol, safety wasn't a big concern back then🤔. Not until Unions came about.
@davidjames1007
@davidjames1007 3 дня назад
Interesting, thank you for sharing your experiece. I am a self taught hobby machinist building small stationary steam engines and enjoy learning new things, well in this case old things.
@GlennNowOnYouTube
@GlennNowOnYouTube 3 дня назад
Hobby machining is a great way to spend your time. Do you ever film your projects? Thanks for watching and commenting.
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