If there are any additional questions regarding the Trade copier, please ask them here and I'll do my best to answer them. -NT8 Multiple Broker Add-on is not needed -In configuring TopStep in NT, select “Rithmic for NinjaTrader Brokerage” - and you may rename to TopStep afterwards -To use Apex Trade Copier via TradingView, please check out their video (I’m not a TradingView user) -When adding a TopStep account, you must select "NinjaTrader" as the Brokerage at Checkout -Selecting "Tradovate" as the Brokerage at Checking with TopStep will NOT work - I recently tried it since they had a promo.
@carleschenburg Thank you for the feedback! that gives me fuel to release more videos. Yes, this configuration still works and I still use it to this day - however, the Apex Trade Copier is now on v10.6.9 which has had some nice updates
Hi Rocky. Great information and additional thanks for answering the questions here in the comments. My question is this. Can I use the Apex copier to trade multiple Topstep combine and express funded accounts within Tradingview and using tradovate as my broker?
@alphaditto I have used the Apex Trade Copier with Apex Eval and PA + Topstep Combine and XFAs. However, the set-up is different with TopStep where you must select "NinjaTrader" as brokerage on check out - I highlighted this in the 5:20 mark of the video I finally tested it when TopStep had a $29 sale, and I can confirm selecting TopStep Tradovate will not work with the Apex Trade Copier
Rocky boy, excellent video, I do have a question, if i trader, mu personal broker account, my topstep and my a pex account at the same time, wich license should i use, thanks a lot keep it humble ROcky boy.
I am currently using the Apex license that the Evaluation/PAs came with. Someday I'll buy the lifetime NinjaTrader license when I'm read to open a personal self-funded account, and hopefully it has no issues w/ the Trade Copier
What's your opinion on using ATM orders on Ninja? I've been using trado and I love using it's ATM but it's not supported on Group trade (copier). Does ninja have ATM that's similar or close to the one that trado have and that can be used in Group trades?
@JerryTrade28 The ATM works on NinjaTrader well - and with Group Trade via a Trade Copier on NinjaTrader, it works most of the time. I only see an issue where it freezes when you have 20+ accounts, and your ATM includes a trailing stop that adjusts too often. I had an ATM that adjusts every 3 ticks which may have been too often. As of right now, I use the ATM but move my stop manually.
Great vid Rocky. I see you have multiple topstep accounts on your ninjatrader connection. I know that you can only have 1 rhitmic connection (which topstep requires). Does this mean that with 1 rhithmic account you are able to connect to mutiple top step accounts (or sub accounts)? Thanks!
@@TKSNO Thank you for the feedback - glad it’s helpful. You’re correct, only 1 Rithmic Account connection with a Firm. So if you have 5 Rithmic accounts with that 1 TopStep account, all 5 will show up. (I tested it when TopStep had the $19/account promo a few months ago)
@@RMDareGreatly thanks Rocky. Do you mean 5 topstep accounts with 1 rhitmic account? If so I assume for those 5 topstep accounts , you choose the ninjatrader option correct?
@@samsingh7794 I renamed it to “TopStep”, there was a change recently, it’s now listed as “Rithmic for NinjaTrader Brokerage” Below is a link 🔗 that should have been sent with the NinjaTrader credentials from TopStep See Step 4 intercom.help/topstep-llc/en/articles/8307768-ninjatrader-8-connection-instructions
Hi Rocky, thanks for the video. It's very informative. Do you think that the copier would work with APEX + My funded futures with the similar approach?
@GRINDING_LIFE Glad it was helpful! Yes, it will work with both the Apex Evals and PA, as well as TopStep Combine and XFA. By Funded futures, did you mean your own personal live account that you’ve funded? - yes that will work too, I tried it with a $500 account a few months ago
Hi Mark, thanks for the video.Would like to check with you, if it is a must to use Tradovate account as a leader account? Can i use ninjatrader account for Topstep and Apex? I currently having Topstep Eval data is that sufficient enough to copy trade to Apex account which in Ninjatrader as well? What's the maximum number of account can be the Apex Copier capable to? Thanks regards
@osng6323 The max I've done is (25) accounts - however, I do not know what the copier's max limitation is. I have used a TopStep NT Account as a lead - so yes, your TopStep Eval as a lead should be sufficient. I've also used a TradeDay Tradovate as a lead. In the past, I've also tried it w/ a Live account as a lead.
Bruh! 11 min video to say make sure you select multi broker. I think people are looking at this title misleading. Folks are wanting to trade two seperate props that share the same data ie Rithmic Apex and Rithmic Topstep.
Hi, I have an important question. I get all of that. If I want to trade TopStep alone sometimes with TradingView without Apex Tradovate as a Leader. How to do that?
@XX-do7nq The Apex Trade Copier is Firm Agnostic, so yes you'll be able to trade with TopStep alone. I did in the past, where my lead was a TopStep NinjaTrader with Rithmic Connection (If you select the TopStep Tradovate option on check out, it won't work as you won't be able to add the account to Apex Trade Copier) Hope this helps
Hi bro just one query as I know that you can’t trade more than one rithmic connection on ninja trader but i want to know is this rule for different prop firm or in the same prop firm Eg like can i trade 3-4 accounts of same prop firm together which are rithmic Are you able to trade all your topstep ninja trader account together??
@nitinmalik1837 You’re able to trade multiple Rithmic accounts from the same prop firm together. However, the Trade Copier won’t allow multiple Rithmic Prop Firm Connections. As an example, I traded 5 Rithmic TopStep Accounts. Only 1 Rithmic Prop Firm Connection with TopStep. If you have an existing Rithmic TopStep connected to Trade Copier, you won’t be able to add an Apex Rithmic Connection. Hope this clarifies it. (If you look on my community tab on YT, about 2 or 3 months ago on my daily post, I showed a snapshot of trading multiple TopStep NinjaTrader Account with Rithmic connection)
@HaloEraser Unfortunately that won't work since if you select Tradovate on checkout with TopStep - it won't give you access to NinjaTrader (they have a disclaimer paragraph when you check out) which is needed to add the account (I tried it when TopStep had the $19 account promo). Essentially, the Trade copier only allows 1 Rithmic Account However, you can have multiple CGQ/Tradovate accounts
Hi rocky one question, can I check my current positions or close or change stop loss with my phone, do you know that because I read I think that’s not working on phone with topstep
@luckypharao51 Apologies for this late response, I missed this question. As long as your desktop is on and the Trade Copier is on, you will be able to alter the lead account via mobile (but I highly discourage this and should only be used in emergencies). When you alter the Stop or Limit on the Lead Account via mobile, all the Follower accounts will also do the same. However, as a caution, this happened to me this week, if you send the wrong command on your lead via mobile, it may cause your followers to execute differently. I had to manually log in to each account and Flatten each account which was a pain.
Does the ratio field add additional quantities for larger accounts, ie with your 25k Apex account (main) would be set to 1, and if you wanted Apex times 2 for the topstep you would set to 2.0?
You got it right! It also works the other way where I could do Qty 2 in the lead/main account and do a 0.5 on the Followers where it would then execute Qty 1 contract.
@jkp17 I have tested it but only during Globex, I wasn’t a fan of it since the delta between E-mini and Micro could vary - which sucks if your lead gets taken out and follower didn’t hit the same value but was also taken out. But maybe less of an issue during US hours
Im wanting to use this, but can it be done remotely? Like after I sign up can I trade from mobile devices? Or do I always have to do it on the computer?
Just to be clear in my mind, using the Trade copier requires all accounts to be Rithmic? In other words, this won't work with a mix of CQG and Rithmic accounts from various funded trading companies, correct?
@pingdis It's actually the other way around, you can have multiple CGQ/Tradovate connections - I have used Apex, TradeDay and TakeProfit Self-Funded Live However, you can only have (1) Rithmic connection, which is what I used with TopStep
Hello! What kind of license do you have on NT that you can both use Rithmic and COQ data feed? I had issues when trying this before due to the licenses. Do you use your personal account for NT, or do you log in with any tradove username/pwd?
@kosaferi I currently login on NinjaTrader with my personal Account - I did not purchase an NT License, and for a while I did not have Personal Account Funded but I was still able to use the Trade Copier and Trade both Apex, Topstep, Trade Day and Take Profit. CGQ Data Feed is the Tradovate Accounts, As long as you add them under Connections and use the Apex or TopStep or any Funding Firm Log in, your Tradovate Account should show up. Please review at the 8:04 mark of this video As for Rithmic Accounts, I have only tried this with TopStep and had to select "NinjaTrader" at Checkout. This can be seen at the 4:43 mark of the video Also, I was told that you can only have (1) Rithmic Connection in the Trade Copier. I have not been able to test this as I try to avoid Rithmic as much as possible and prefer CGQ. Hope this helps! Sorry for the late reply.
Thanks for your reply, meanwhile I tried this way again. Just another question: Do you trade your own account as well? Here can be somewhere in the middle the problem maybe, because this way seems working if you get market data through your personal account. For me 10min delay in the data jumps in and meanwhile you can log in to mulltiple tradovate accounts without issue , but they are not visible at the accounts. Only the rithmic account is visible. Defenately should be some licensing problem with my personal account in this case. Thanks again for the info bro. Keep going! 🤘
@prettybirdjess I just checked, no topstepx connection. However, you can use the Apex Trade Copier with TopStep Rithmic (This is where you select NinjaTrader as Brokerage on checkout - and data feed is from Rithmic)
hey Rocky, question about what live accounts can be connected to this trade copier at 8:50 in the video it has a bunch of brokers. Are any of those brokers allowed to be connected?
@Raviyt2 I can only speak my existing set-up so far - I have a Live NinjaTrader/Tradovate account which I copy trade with my Funded accounts. I tried connecting ThinkOrSwim and couldn’t quite figure it out. I think you’d have to worry about the multiple broker add-on if you add Live accounts from other brokerage
@douglascaverly3749 I sometimes notice this when it's a drastic move with the wick of the candle slightly touching the target and order not executing since there wasn't enough volume/liquidity. It's just unlucky sometimes
@unpacify It opens as a new Window - not as a Tab if it helps. You’d have to go to New then select Apex Copier on the drop down menu. It’s also recommended to close the Apex Copier separately when closing and saving the workspace.
I am only showing 1 live connection which is TopStep...how do you connect to the other Firms ? I get a message in NT8 saying only 1 connection is allowed.
@neveral0ne The Apex Trade Copier will only allow 1 Rithmic Connection, but you can have multiple CGQ/Tradovate Connection. Unfortunately, when you select TopStep's "Tradovate" brokerage option at sign up, it won't let you add it to the Trade Copier. You can only add it to Trade Copier if you select the "Ninjatrader" brokerage option which has a Rithmic data feed.
Please check out video below from @apextraderfunding regarding the use of Trading View, it starts at the 8:10 mark ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0J4csNdrl54.html
@rossjohn9840 Only names under your name - if you want to trade other people's money, you'd have to look into being an RIA (Registered Investment Advisor) along w/ other certifications
@thehoodhat27 I am not certain, however I read a blog that @NinjaTrader does not officially support Mac, however users do use parallels on Mac Hardware.
@microcapcoins A TopStep Account can only be imported into NinjaTrader with Apex Trade Copier if you select "NinjaTrader" as Brokerage at Checkout. With a recent deal, I wanted to test so I purchased a combine and selected "Tradovate" as the Brokerage and I was not able to integrate into NinjaTrader with Apex Trade Copier. Please review at 4:43 mark
@@RMDareGreatlysorry if I wasn’t clear. I was asking if I had 5 apex Tradovate accounts and I purchased 5 topstep ninja trader accounts, would they all show up? Like you have 3 topstep showing and 1 apex. Would I be able to have all 10, 5 apex & 5 topstep, accounts copy trading? I hope this does not complicate things but if I have 5 topstep accounts and link the 1 apex account, my lead account , and copy trade using Tradovates built in copier? My goal is to diversify my accounts by spreading 10 accounts with 2 firms. Is that possible using the method in your video? I apologize again if I’m confusing things 🙏🏾
@@vincentcjohnson2674Hey Vincent, it's definitely possible (but please be careful) - I traded 20 Apex PAs, 5 Top Step, 1 Trade Day, and 1 Take Profit and 1 Live Account at one point with the Trade Copier. If you check out the Community Tab posts on RU-vid, I usually post daily progress. The posts in Mid May should show the multiple accounts. PS: I totally agree with diversifying where you get your funding from.
@@Makneee thanks, ended up buying the copier but my stop and take profit orders are getting copied over. Works good for market orders tho so I guess that’s a win
@JesseJoesika-zb9zl Which rule? I want to make sure I didn't miss anything and get into trouble I am using Apex's Trade Copier which allows for ATM, and Apex has mentioned that it could be use for other firms
@@RMDareGreatly oh okay no i just wanted to make sure i was allowed with Apex and topstep to copy trade both accounts and possibly even FTMO with ctrader all on ninja trader using your apex tradovate and topstpet ninja trader method. if you are allowed to do so without violating any rules than thats amazing and thank you for all your help
i was told not to use sim as the leader account to trade copy. does it matter if you use rithmic or tradovate account as the leader? another youtuber told me you should lead with tradovate account so there won’t be any issues with the followers…is this true?
@dontron8897 In theory, all Eval/Combine and PA/XFA accounts are all Simulation accounts. I believe what they mean by not using a SIM as the leader is the SIM101 that usually comes with the account on NinjaTrader. I have lead with the following accounts, and the followers copied the trade accordingly: 1) Live Account 2) Apex Tradovate account 3) TopStep NinjaTrader Account w/ Rithmic Data
You can use Apex license and you can add other prop firms that offer Tradovate. Or you can use TopStep Ninja license and add all the Apex Tradovate accounts plus any other prop firms that offers Tradovate. You can copy trade several prop firms that way.
@@jermaineroye9534 NinjaTrader has an App and works on mobile, yes. But, in regards to using it for the Trade Copier - I would highly discourage doing this via mobile, as there can be complications and it’s best that you can react to it via the application on your computer
@dizonlee9524 @mrawesome2717 Trading with Tradovate from different Funding Firms should work. I personally have used Tradovate from Apex, Trade Day, and Take Profit and traded them with the Trade Copier.