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How To Troubleshoot an Escapement Problem 

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In this video, we'll be discussing how to troubleshoot an escapement problem in a watch. This is a common issue that can be caused by a variety of problems, and we'll be able to help you fix it!
If you're having trouble with your watch, be sure to watch this video to learn how to diagnose and fix the escapement problem. We'll cover everything from diagnostics to fixing the issue yourself, so you can get your watch working again as soon as possible!
This ALLWYN 6139 has s serious problem in the escapement and I will walk you through the process of finding it.
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@jlr8356
@jlr8356 2 месяца назад
I learned a lot witch your detailed explanation an logic behind troubleshooting….I will call it analytical an diagnosis thinking method (ADTM). Great job !!! Living evidence of +35 years of experience. Master of masters.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials 2 месяца назад
I hope these videos help you in your learning process
@awdturbopowah773
@awdturbopowah773 Год назад
Wanted to watch this one first before I dive into the advanced palette stone adjustment video over on Patreon. Speaking of which, I am so happy your patrons list has gotten so long! The channel provides immeasurable value for beginners like me, and I'm really glad you're at least able to get something back for all the time, effort, and expense that goes into making these videos for us. Thanks Alex!
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
It definitely offsets some of the expense that goes into what I’m trying to do on the channel. Thank you for you support brother.
@rossjackson3670
@rossjackson3670 Год назад
What an excellent tutorial. Again, I'm sure you are watching me. At every stage you pre-empt my problems. I have a problem, you do a video. You advise and cajole on the learning progression. Thank you for passing on part of your knowledge.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
LOL Ross. Glad it was useful
@rossjackson3670
@rossjackson3670 Год назад
@@watchrepairtutorials Oh so useful. I do have a lot to practice to do before I attempt most of the content. However, as you point out, having the knowledge does help in the overall system of troubleshooting. A smashing course so far. Thank you
@JDRichard
@JDRichard Год назад
Your description of these problems are exceptional. You save me a lot of time reading my 30 books on watchmaking
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Thank you for the compliment JD. I hope it helps.
@Supercruze
@Supercruze Год назад
Best explanation of escapement troubleshooting I have seen thus far. Thank you Alex
@timmienorrie
@timmienorrie Год назад
The exit jewel must have been moved before the shellac had set. It is astonishing that such a small movement caused the effect it did. Mant thanks for this video. It has given me an idea about a problem Seiko 7006A that I am currently troubleshooting.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
I suspect that someone in India had tried to repair it and wasn’t sure what to do.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches Год назад
I found this video fascinating, it did not answer the question I was looking for with a problem I have of dramatic positional error but I still learnt something. With any 6### Seiko movement the lift angle is 54.5 so this would increase your amplitude on your TG 53 degrees is for the 70## movements. Still 230-240 is very good. In hobbyist land we tend to say on old Seiko movements that anything 200+ is good enough! I would be super impressed with 240 on any 6### movement I have worked on. Just shows I still have a lot to learn.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Hello Mike, I hope things are well with you. Honestly, I don’t remember how I came up with 53 or if it was just an oversight. Usually when I’m working on a movement that I don’t know the lift angle. I calculate it, but in this case, I honestly can’t remember. I think with the new main spring and a lot of additional work, I could get the amplitude up to 270 but this movement is it really worth it? In my opinion. Anyway, great to hear from you and thank you.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches Год назад
@@watchrepairtutorials 270 is still insanely good for these movements! You have free skills sir! I’ve been a long time lurker of your channel but finally subscribed today realising I had not. I going to give you a few shout outs too because what you are doing is brilliant and I think many of my subs if they have not already found your channel might like to know about what you are doing. I am at a point of my Watch repair where I have plateau’d some jobs I am not sure how to do and some just don’t seem to have the confidence. I’ve now sought help from a local 56 year served professional who is going to help me push myself into the more detailed work. Actually quite excited.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
I appreciate that Mike. Never hesitate to reach out if you need something.
@HeliBenj
@HeliBenj Год назад
Another great one, might explain an issue that was driving me crazy with one of my past projects I now have to revisit. Thanks for giving me a light bulb moment wrt the relationship between pallet stones and fork angles
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Glad to help Ben. The escapement is a fascinating mechanism for sure.
@soundmindtv2911
@soundmindtv2911 Год назад
Your detailed, practical explanations are invaluable! You'd be proud of me. I managed to get the entire practice ST36 disassembled, cleaned, reassembled and lubricated, albeit with 1800 and molykote. But I've learned a ton already, thanks to you! I don't do patreon, I just don't like that such a chunk goes to them, but if you have a paypal or a venmo I'd be happy to send you something. The lessons are certainly valuable to me, and I'm taking it seriously. Again, thank you!
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Yea man, I love hearing these stories. This is the type of feedback that makes me smile and feel like I'm getting something done. I do have a PayPal and here is the link. bit.ly/3J0sK91
@kyproset
@kyproset Год назад
Still no notification from u-tube. Found this one by accident. Thank you, Alex, great lesson.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Are you talking about the Notification Bell? You are not getting a notification?
@kyproset
@kyproset Год назад
@@watchrepairtutorials I have the bell on, but it does not notify me when new videos are out. I have to go to your page to see if there is a new video out.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
@@kyproset Sorry My friend, I don't know how to fix that
@roadshowautosports
@roadshowautosports Год назад
Your methods and direct approach are commendable! Pointing out all the time what our skills limitations could or should be and the implications they can bring on talking upon certain jobs, that’s priceless! Love the way you recommend what and which tools or movements we can use for specific levels/steps of our learning curve is something I really haven’t seen on any other channel, as they seen more interested in showing off their own skills instead. This is also clear by the way you mostly teach during videos and visual examples come AFTER explained but mostly you develop a rapport and interaction with US to assure we absorb the core of the subject! Thank you!
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Edison, thank you. I am just paying forward some things I learned from all the great watchmakers i worked with.
@ஓம்நமசிவாய-ட9வ
Alex, love the video. Thanks for educating the watch community..
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Always! Than you my friend
@alvinwatchiadorvlog2587
@alvinwatchiadorvlog2587 3 месяца назад
Hi Sir Alex, thank you for sharing this informative videos i play all vidoes one by one to added me technaque for repair my Watch and thank you for Tips before end of videos. from Philippines
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials 3 месяца назад
That's very wise. Learn and practice, Learn then practice. There is not enough practicing going on. Everyone learning watch repair should have several movements that they use for practicing on. You definitely don't want to practice on grandpa's Rolex. If you know what I mean..
@alvinwatchiadorvlog2587
@alvinwatchiadorvlog2587 3 месяца назад
@@watchrepairtutorials Thank you Sir, Alex ur Advice...
@JonTheComputerDoctor
@JonTheComputerDoctor Год назад
A stunning video, one I will watch more than a few times.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Glad to hear that Jon. Keep at it. The escapement is the money in watchmaking and being able to work on it is what keeps a movement out of the non running box.😊
@timev3tech
@timev3tech 11 месяцев назад
Great photography and video for demonstration.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials 11 месяцев назад
Many thanks Nathan
@GussWatches-yl3mp
@GussWatches-yl3mp Год назад
Hi Alex, I'm having trouble troubleshooting an issue with my watch. The pallet fork needs to reach almost the center of the pins to release. I can see through the microscope that the pallet stone is somewhat deep into the escape teeth. I have a 6ms bit error. Thank you very much for your content its amazing!
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
By the sound of it, the escapement needs to be adjusted. It’s a long process more than I can answer here but if you’re interested, I did make a couple videos on how to inspect and adjust the escapement which is available on my Patreon page. There are links in the description, and they about me page of my channel
@douglasreagan4979
@douglasreagan4979 Год назад
This is an awesome video, I will be back many times to review this information.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Thank you D. I am working soon another troubleshooting video and plan on doing many more.
@DavidvanNiekerk
@DavidvanNiekerk Год назад
Informative , logical and well presented. Thank you
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
You are welcome!
@keveh6093
@keveh6093 Год назад
Fantastic video, thanks Alex. I’ll check out the advanced vids you mention as well. The way way you explain and deliver the knowledge is a talent in itself
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Hey Keve, thank you so much. I am kinda finding my voice and getting a little more comfortable talking to a camera.
@jaylevine1483
@jaylevine1483 Год назад
Great video, thanks. I wish I had the skills needed to make the adjustments that this diagnostic so clearly explains :)
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Thanks JAy, Its not hard. It just takes practice, magnification and the ability to measure it.
@bolgerguide
@bolgerguide Год назад
Good timing with the video Alex. I just bought a weishi 1900.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Very nice. Don’t let it hurt your feelings, OK ✅
@bolgerguide
@bolgerguide Год назад
@@watchrepairtutorials ha ha i took your advice and let it run for at least 30 seconds before i even look at the graph.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
@@bolgerguide Give it 1 minute before . I usually wait until 6 rates have cycled
@L7A1B93
@L7A1B93 Год назад
Great video again! Adjusting pallet stones is a bit above my pay grade but i would love a video on how to polish cases and other parts.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Great suggestion Olof,> I have some polishing videos in the que
@VWatchie
@VWatchie Год назад
Again, a very informative video. Thank you!
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
My pleasure my man. Always great to hear from you in the comments.
@RalfyCustoms
@RalfyCustoms Год назад
Wonderful Alex, thanks for sharing buddy, another great lesson to add to my arsenal
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it Ralfy. Every little bit helps
@endy_fx
@endy_fx Год назад
Always informative. Thanks for the video.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@jwoodyr1
@jwoodyr1 Год назад
Thanks for another great video!! I learned a lot.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@robertproctor198
@robertproctor198 Год назад
Awesome thanks
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Thank you my friend
@robertproctor198
@robertproctor198 Год назад
@@watchrepairtutorials could i ask, is it an option when the hair spring is held with a pin to move the hair spring in or out to correct the beat error as an alternative to moving the collet? Thx
@alcapony5412
@alcapony5412 Год назад
Hey Alex, another fantastic video. Your content continues to be some of the most informative out there so thank you. Is there any chance you have a tutorial on crystal/crystal gasket sizing in your future videos? I always seem to have trouble determining the proper crystal/gasket sizing combination (especially when a watch you get has a broken/missing crystal) and was wondering if you have any tips.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Coming soon Al
@artoftinker3713
@artoftinker3713 Год назад
Great video Alex. Did you have to file the Guard Pin as it was touching the crescent of the Safety Roller? Love your work!!
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
No, the lack of slide in the exit stone was causing the fault. Once that was corrected the guard pin moved away from the roller
@jd1838
@jd1838 Год назад
Hola mi amigo saludos , nuevamente felicitando y dejando mi comentario quisiera hacerte una pregunta dónde puedo ver una lista de los movimientos originales y sus copias para tener una mejor guía al tratar con ellos gracias espero tu respuesta
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
No existe tal lista. Los movimientos modernos tienen hojas técnicas que se pueden buscar en Google. Los movimientos más antiguos no tenían fichas técnicas, solo lista de piezas.
@georuiz74
@georuiz74 3 месяца назад
Brilliant video and so clearly explained - it all makes sense now ! Thank you so much !
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials 3 месяца назад
Thank you. This is just part of the troubleshooting process. There's much much more. I'll be covering more troubleshooting in upcoming videos.
@pemhoman1754
@pemhoman1754 Год назад
Bedankt
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
je bent welkom vriend
@johnvaluk1401
@johnvaluk1401 Год назад
Thank you Alex. Great video. How does the jewel become that far out of adjustment or was it just bad QC from the factory? Thanks again
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Not at all. Someone was fiddling around in there and didn’t understand what they were trying to do. Thanks John
@paulmullen1189
@paulmullen1189 Год назад
Hi Alex can you tell me the best method for polishing the oilers etc please?.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
I use a rotary tool with a hard felt pad charged with Polinum Then you just touch the tip of the oiler to the spinning pad. It doesn't take much.
@paulmullen1189
@paulmullen1189 Год назад
Thanks Alex
@craigcampo5921
@craigcampo5921 7 месяцев назад
Love your videos! watched one where you suggested Molykote DX paste as an alternative to Moebus grease. Can you confirm where it will be used? Thanks in advance
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials 7 месяцев назад
anywhere grease is used with the exception of the barrel. So keyless, motions works, things like that.
@craigcampo5921
@craigcampo5921 7 месяцев назад
How many drops of 9015 go in how much hexane? to make home made v106? hard as heck re- find the bonus hack As always thanks in advance!
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials 7 месяцев назад
@@craigcampo5921 Here you go. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9jarslbMTUk.htmlsi=A1GZkYwjhNGx5NSY&t=1730
@LeGiaWatchService
@LeGiaWatchService 2 месяца назад
What is the cause of the 9.9ms error? :(😢
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials 2 месяца назад
Are you asking what can cause a beat error or 9.9 ms? What type of movement is it?
@LeGiaWatchService
@LeGiaWatchService Месяц назад
@@watchrepairtutorialsWhere can I find your pallet repair parts? Thank you!
@LeGiaWatchService
@LeGiaWatchService Месяц назад
@@watchrepairtutorialsIt's an Orient Automatic machine. When I adjust my hair in and out many times, it causes an error. I don't know how to fix it :(
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Месяц назад
@@LeGiaWatchService which parts specifically?
@LeGiaWatchService
@LeGiaWatchService Месяц назад
@@watchrepairtutorials hairspring and balance wheel
@SergiRuiz_RelojeroTorpe
@SergiRuiz_RelojeroTorpe Год назад
Leaving aside the amplitude of the balance wheel, which can be solved with a new spring. The result is really good, there are no stray tics, stability in various positions. Making a translation of a Spanish proverb: "You are handsome and with money, what else do you want, honey?"
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
I love it man. Just remember Sergi, There are a lot of things starting from the mainspring barrel through the power train wheels that can also cause loss of amplitude. A new mainspring will certainly help, but that's not always the case. And thank you.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
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@plopsplipspladoodle
@plopsplipspladoodle Год назад
is this video slowed down?
@plopsplipspladoodle
@plopsplipspladoodle Год назад
nevermind it was my settings
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
I just talk slow
@clementvanpeuter1742
@clementvanpeuter1742 5 месяцев назад
I worked on one Molnija 3602 with a similar problem, and I have trouble to See exactly what happen between pallets fork and balance. Very few space to see due to bridges. Any tips ?
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials 5 месяцев назад
There are ways of testing the escapement even when you can’t see the parts clearly. It’s available in my escapement inspection course.
@allenrussell1947
@allenrussell1947 Год назад
The terminal curve on the hairspring looked pretty frightful. Did you work on that or am I imagining that issue?
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Yeah, that movement just had a flat spiral balance spring with no regulator curve. Speaks to the quality of the movement low
@donnyalvarez7
@donnyalvarez7 Год назад
That picture on your RU-vid site dose not look like you I was like who is that guy lol😅
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Its a Cartoon version I guess.
@tobiasdecker884
@tobiasdecker884 Год назад
Alex I watch your videos all the time! Your comtent has helped me along soooo much! I now posess the ability to tear down, clean, lube and regulate a wayxh and its all thanks to you! Im an IT manager by trade. This os a aode hig for me and a hobby. Woth your help I am a happier pwrson woth sich an enjoyable hobby. Watch making made me feel alive again for the forst time aince covid started. Keep up the good work! If you ever need IT help ide be happy to assist.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Thank you my friend. There’s no greater satisfaction that helping someone to learn how to get better.
@tobiasdecker884
@tobiasdecker884 Год назад
@@watchrepairtutorials Alex you have a program for more in depth teaching right? Can you link it for me?
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
@@tobiasdecker884 Here you go man, watchrepairtutorials.com/plans/mini-courses/
@coopoylozenge5964
@coopoylozenge5964 Год назад
Excellent video. Thanks Alex.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
I appreciate you checking out all my work
@coopoylozenge5964
@coopoylozenge5964 Год назад
Given you’re in the States, you should be asleep!
@joncurrier2269
@joncurrier2269 Год назад
Is that green device on top of your wooden tool box made by Mauser? And what do you use it for? I think I have one just like it.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
I think you are talking about the stand I use to hold my digital micrometer. No its a cheap Chinese one.
@walther9161
@walther9161 Год назад
Wow! Very technical stuff. Thanks for posting!
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
Thanks as always Walther. 👍
@SvenEugenots
@SvenEugenots Год назад
Very interesting, a couple of new checks to add to my routine! What did you do to increase the distance between the guard pin and the safety roller? Thanks
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
I moved the exit stone out so the tooth sat on the stone the same distance as the entry side.
@tomholloway7566
@tomholloway7566 Год назад
Wow! Another very interesting video Alex. A plea from me though is please don’t go down the “shorts “ route. I don’t understand RU-vid with their obsession to turn all channels into TikTok channels. Sorry I can’t support on patreon, only on a small military pension here and any spare pennies go to watchmaking tools and such.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
I am just seeing if I can get some additional exposure and maybe grown a little. It’s just clips from the regular video I released and I will not be making them on their own.
@tomholloway7566
@tomholloway7566 Год назад
Thanks for responding Alex, not hitting you sir at all. I appreciate what you’re doing. I know that on forums I am on your channel is cited often by myself and many others, you will get the growth, I am sure.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
@@tomholloway7566 You can't really teach anything on a short as far as watch repair is concerned. It' all marking. Thanks Tom, I appreciate you and your feedback
@soundmindtv2911
@soundmindtv2911 Год назад
@@watchrepairtutorials one thing, Alex, and maybe you already did this, but in the short be sure you put a link to the full video in both the description and in a pinned comment. Converting is hard, but if the short is compelling as a teaser, it should get some traffic pushed to the main video.
@watchrepairtutorials
@watchrepairtutorials Год назад
@@soundmindtv2911 Wow I didn't know that so thank you.
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