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How to Turbo-Charge Your Public Transit 

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Why build bike lanes - shouldn’t we focus on public transit instead? There’s a criticism we’ve seen that bicycle urbanism is a niche obsession and that urbanists’ attention should instead be on public transit as a more robust, reliable, and realistic alternative to driving.
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@littlekirby6
@littlekirby6 Год назад
The maps with walking and biking distance radius was a great touch, love when you put in effort like that
@Zraknul
@Zraknul Год назад
Yeah the visual for commuter level station coverage is interesting.
@Mysha-d5x
@Mysha-d5x Год назад
In a way, it does. But it also stresses how poorly designed a lot of cities are, with strings of pearls as zones is wide cloth of unreachable.
@faliyo3053
@faliyo3053 Год назад
Place Panama is already in the works as a transit oriented development area by Prével and TGTA! In those parking lots we see in some clips. Also, with the current under study future transitway (REM or Tram) on Taschereau boulevard, we will see more TOD close to Panama. Thanks for the lovely video.
@m.e.3862
@m.e.3862 Год назад
There’s luxury condos on the corner of taschereau and Rome going up and I expect more will be developed especially in the dead strip malls between Rome and Matte. The only thing is the price. I’d love to buy a condo in a TOD like Du Quartier but it’s $$$$! Great for those who can afford it I guess 😊
@Chomp-Rock
@Chomp-Rock Год назад
In the UK, parking your bike in a train station is a good way to get parts of it, or all of it, stolen.
@coryascott
@coryascott Год назад
Skateboards and rollerblades are such underrated forms of micromobility At least as transportation and not just for fun Skateboards are my favorite to mix with transit
@hunterheyman8791
@hunterheyman8791 Год назад
One thing for me about having a good bike network that was just touched on at the beginning of the video but I think is really important is the resiliency of having multiple options. For example in New York trains can be delayed due to someone jumping in front of the train or a power outage, this would mean a 30 minute walk or an often even longer bus, but with an electric Citi bike it’s barely even an inconvenience as I get to my location at the same time almost.
@j.s.7335
@j.s.7335 Год назад
I like that you aren't so harsh on transit station parking. In some cases, though not generally speaking, car is a valuable way to access stations. Basically, dense development and any other mode are preferable where possible, but station car parking has its place where people live far from stations where buses can't practicably serve, and there isn't demand for density. Also, I love how you pronounce Panama. Grinds my gears when people say Panam-aw.
@TimeLemon
@TimeLemon Год назад
I was literally just thinking about this on the weekend (had fun at a specific meet and greet event) when walking 35 minutes to and from my hotel to Panama Station from Hôtel Brossard.
@adorabell4253
@adorabell4253 Год назад
An extensive bike share program is the best partner for transit. Many people don’t want to worry about their bike being left for hours outside and bike shares solve this admirably. And many of them have pedal assist e-bikes making that ride even more comfortable.
@user-pq4by2rq9y
@user-pq4by2rq9y Год назад
Just to add a few points.: - A 15 minute ride for ebikes is roughly 8km* (assuming 20~28mph/30~45kph); - Bike parking safety needs to improve if we are going to have these expensive bikes coming around. - Perhaps we should design trains around bikes, it really solves that last mile problem in a better way than buses. My city metro has a car reserved to bikes. obs.: at that point you being to question if you even need a train at all. ps.: here is an insane idea for you, what if we mounted ebike superchargers on a railcars?
@gumbyshrimp2606
@gumbyshrimp2606 Год назад
4:48 Football field says “Montreal Carbrains”
@nicolasblume1046
@nicolasblume1046 Год назад
1:52 the maps are a great addition! But you could make them more accurate, there are several tools that let you see the actual coverage, taking the street network into account
@OhTheUrbanity
@OhTheUrbanity Год назад
What are the tools and do they work in R?
@korcommander
@korcommander Год назад
Simple, concise, and convincing. What can I say? I know a good video when I see one.
@lizziesmusicmaking
@lizziesmusicmaking 10 месяцев назад
My city has no trains :( But bus and walking work well together. A kickscooter is also useful and fun in good weather.
@jiffyb333
@jiffyb333 Год назад
This was so helpful to better understanding the value of bike infrastructure!
@FriendlyFireYT
@FriendlyFireYT Год назад
I agree with the premise that in a perfectly designed city you wouldn't even need a bike. But in reality, there aren't many places like that on the planet (much less in the US). And bike infrastructure is much cheaper and faster to build than a light rail system with dense coverage. Bikes and especially new PEVs can do a lot to solve our current problems way faster/cheaper.
@Jarecian
@Jarecian Год назад
You need all of it. Pedestrian ways, biking facilities, tiered public transit, and (in moderate Quantities), Infrastructure for cars. The more alternatives there are, the better, so that one System doesn't get clogged up, and different people can choose according to their preferences.
@benibf
@benibf Год назад
Great video and great arguments as always! I do, however, have a particular theory about those folks who claim "bike lanes are a waste of money, let's build transit instead". On the surface, this might not seem entirely unreasonable. Except that the vast majority of cycling advocates also advocate for more transit, and the vast majority of transit advocates also advocate for more cycling. Instead, I believe that folks who make this particular argument are drivers who don't necessarily object to transit - or at least grade separated systems such as the REM - since it doesn't get in the way of their cars. On the other hand, for bicycle infrastructure to be installed, space needs to be taken away from drivers. I have a feeling that those are the folks who would say "let's not build this BRT here, we need a metro line instead!", not necessarily because they think a BRT is inferior, but rather because it takes away space from their car.
@LoneHowler
@LoneHowler Год назад
Calgary is doing a pilot project with ride share bikes being placed at trains with a geofenced free zone. They're also a pilot project with bikes being allowed on the trains with only one bike per person at designated train doors, and only if there's room after others have boarded
@bananadane
@bananadane Год назад
Ooooh I know that Bart station! About to go over to the Berkeley flea market in that Bart's parking lot
@davuto0043
@davuto0043 Год назад
For me personally i drive to the REM station by car and i leave it in there free parking, and i find it fine. Though i would like the Rem to go deeper in the south shore.
@noahkidd3359
@noahkidd3359 Год назад
Excellent video guys!
@pjrt_tv
@pjrt_tv Год назад
I'm curious how biking would affect transit in NYC. I know NYC is an outlier among outliers in NA when it comes to transit, but we do have an issue here in that many sections of the city are called "transit deserts" because they don't have subway access (they have buses, but we don't count those since they aren't prioritized).
@BrasilPopular
@BrasilPopular Год назад
Even before that, we should actually focus in the shape of cities. Circular cities are more efficient for urban transportation. Building new cities from scratch is the most efficient path forward.
@CarFreeSegnitz
@CarFreeSegnitz Год назад
Beyond the scope of this video: densification. If you want the biggest boost to transit change the zoning around stations to high-density mixed-use. The 750metre (10-15 minute walk) could encompass several hundred thousand people and hundreds of businesses. We really need to stop wasting space on free parking and expansive highways. Heck, if the density was high enough, and kept pleasant, people wouldn’t need transit at all since they’d have everything for daily living within easy walking distance.
@matthewconstantine5015
@matthewconstantine5015 Год назад
The combination of cycling infrastructure & trains is fantastic. It's how I try to get around where I live in the suburbs of D.C. I'm very lucky where I live, because cycling to the nearest Metro station to me (about 3 miles) isn't an awful experience. But generally, this area doesn't do a great job of creating connectivity for cyclists & pedestrians when it comes to Metro. It just builds a sea of parking around most above-ground stops.
@shaanalam3872
@shaanalam3872 Год назад
DC and the DC metro is pretty good compared to other American cities like Houston, but the massive parking lots next to stations and the lack of pedestrian and bike accessibility needs to be improved.
@r.williams8349
@r.williams8349 Год назад
Great data maps very cool
@SpectreMk2
@SpectreMk2 Год назад
Although more a transit enthusiast myself, I take both bikes and métro, they are very complementary indeed! Bike infrastructures are also a great way to make incremental improvements to street landscapes in cities at a low-cost and are a great relief from the car-dependency anxiety that may arise when big métro/train projects struggle to get approval or funding.
@Vedrajrm
@Vedrajrm Год назад
Bicycles are good, but only when used appropriately. I’ve often encountered people who cycle at high speeds and act like they own the roads. Most places have the cycle lanes right next to footpaths, and often they drive it on there. They ruin the cycling experience for everyone. If it’s supposed to be done right, then there has to be rules on speed limits and mandatory insurance for bicycles.
@Cyrus992
@Cyrus992 Год назад
How about installing personal rapid transit?
@jajefan123456789
@jajefan123456789 Год назад
Can’t believe there are urbanists sleeping on bike infra 😤😤
@EvilTurtle97
@EvilTurtle97 Год назад
Great video, I have had this discussion countless times online of people always making it seem like you have to choose between biking infrastructure and public transport. As someone from the Netherlands I can tell you they complement each other so much that together they are both ten times better than if we focused on just one and let the other fall to the wayside.
@AMPProf
@AMPProf Год назад
I CAN VOUCH FOR CHICAGOLAND! You literally have Cycle way downtowns in alignment with train stations.... Its fun especially in HS
@stickynorth
@stickynorth Год назад
It sickens me when people think it's a choice between one or the other. It isn't. They are symbiotic forms of transit that complement each other well. With the decline in passenger ridership post COVID, perhaps more seat spaces can be given up to bikes on rapid transit itself...
@meowtherainbowx4163
@meowtherainbowx4163 Год назад
I loved the segment in CityNerd's recent Minneapolis video in which he contrasted a bare-bones example of transit-oriented development (a car sewer w/ buses lined with 5-over-1s) with a parallel greenway for bikes. Bike paths have so much potential to be beautiful and quiet. It could make urbanism an easier sell for suburbanites who hate all the grayness that they associate with urban areas.
@Urbanhandyman
@Urbanhandyman Год назад
I haven't personally heard the argument of choosing between bicycle infrastructure or "real transit." The cost differential is huge and affects people in very different ways. I imagine the excuse to not having bicycle infrastructure is mostly a NIMBY argument. People don't want to see parking removed and bike lanes installed. That's the case here in Berkeley and the greater San Francisco Bay Area. People will say anything including "bike lanes will destroy the neighborhood". To them another bus line is something they can ignore.
@geoff5623
@geoff5623 Год назад
A lot of times it ends up being another means to express anti-bike sentiment, trying to find something that sounds logical enough to convince people (and themselves), without really analysing their own arguments. Two reasons I've seen most often are "money should be spent on other things than bike lanes" (bike infrastructure is very cheap, and often doesn't detract from public transit funds), or "not everyone can bike" (bike lanes work for mobility devices, and don't prevent disabled people from getting places by transit) People often view cyclists as a stereotype (e.g. MAMILs, or entitled commuters...) that conflicts with their priorities, instead of how most have common causes (reduced traffic, streets safer for kids, accessible ammenities nearby)
@jonathanlochridge9462
@jonathanlochridge9462 Год назад
Why not just remove lanes for moving cars. Then the parking can act as protection for the cyclists. But, yeah. In some cases there can be a cost argument. One city I lived in before tried putting a bike path completely separate from the roads... That didn't go anywhere that people cared about. And, it also cost a decent chunk of money. And in some cases I would rather they just make the road safer and not a stroad that put in a bicycle gutter or something. But if you can afford "real transit" at all then bike infrastructure is a drop in the bucket.
@Urbanhandyman
@Urbanhandyman Год назад
@@jonathanlochridge9462 Yes, building bike lanes that go nowhere is missing the point. So many people still think of bicycling as only a leisure activity. They can't imagine someone going to the bank, grocery shopping, work, or visiting a friend downtown, on a bicycle. In other words, every place and activity that a "normal" car driver would go to and engage in.
@eamonnca1
@eamonnca1 Год назад
What are we looking at at 1:16? Is that a bridge or something?
@OhTheUrbanity
@OhTheUrbanity Год назад
The Montreal Olympic Stadium: www.google.com/maps/@45.556868,-73.5542456,3a,75y,61.44h,100.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1slGGHoo645GfynBVehGod7w!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DlGGHoo645GfynBVehGod7w%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D155.8261%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
@rbesfe
@rbesfe Год назад
I think the cycling multiplier is more an indication of how poorly land is used around stations. The GO network for example has mainly put stations in sparsely populated industrial wastelands, so you basically need a bike if you want to take a GO train without driving
@Zalis116
@Zalis116 Год назад
I guess that's why NJB calls GO "Car-Dependent Transit." But maybe those industrial wastelands were where land was available and affordable for those stations to be built in the first place?
@jsrodman
@jsrodman Год назад
If it was affordable to build giant parking lots ut was affordable to build mixed use neighorhoods.
@katiem.3109
@katiem.3109 Год назад
The multiplier is always going to exist regardless of how dense the land use around the stations is. It just will change from, for example, 10,000 within waking distance and 60,000 within biking distance to, say, 40,000 within walking distance and 240,000 within biking distance. Unless you only want to increase density within walking distance of the station and no where else, but even then there will still always be more people within biking distance than walking distance unless literally no one lives in the too-long-to walk but short enough to bike radius.
@nathang4682
@nathang4682 Год назад
How do you determine how many people are in the circle that you draw?
@OhTheUrbanity
@OhTheUrbanity Год назад
Overlap with census data, analyzed in R
@nathang4682
@nathang4682 Год назад
@@OhTheUrbanity Interesting, thanks. Don't know much about that, need to learn how to do this myself.
@ddrhazy
@ddrhazy Год назад
5:40 Looks like Orinda, not Oakland.
@OhTheUrbanity
@OhTheUrbanity Год назад
It's Rockridge Station station in Oakland, looking east. Orinda is just a bit further
@Ubeogesh
@Ubeogesh Год назад
Must have BOTH!!! Bike infra and public transport. I mainy ride an EUC around my city, but combining it with transport is so good. I can take it into fully crowded train, if I want. I can afford much longer first and last miles and make otherwise impossible connections. And if the transit has a hiccough, i have a backup. And if there's heavy precipitation, i have a backup
@SirNoahBob
@SirNoahBob Год назад
uhhh so good
@TheScourge007
@TheScourge007 Год назад
As one of the people who's in Atlanta's MARTA range only because of bikes I completely agree how biking helps transit a lot. And MARTA is quite bike friendly (given how bike unfriendly much of the city is, though that is gradually changing). I personally bike to MARTA and since there's no restriction taking the bike on the train, that's frequently what I do. But one other option that is nice is that many stations have options to park your bike either inside or outside the fare gates. Outside means you don't need to use the larger handicap gates to get in but inside can feel more secure given that's where the MARTA employees are typically around to discourage attempts to break through locks, not to mention being under the roof which is nice given how rainy this city can be. Plus the buses have front bike racks that can carry 2 bikes at a time (which is typically sufficient in my experience but might be limited on some of the more popular routes) and so when the weather gets bad on my trip home I just put my bike on the rack and ride the bus most of the way home. Atlanta is not known for good urbanism (with good reason given how much sprawl we have), but I do give props to MARTA for very explicitly making bikes part of their planning and advertising.
@SBU_urbanlivinglab
@SBU_urbanlivinglab Год назад
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏The content was interesting
@Gabriel-sn6yg
@Gabriel-sn6yg 11 месяцев назад
And Bike lanes can make to wide road less wide
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 Год назад
But what about people who ride the bicycle before _and_ after riding public transit? This is where a folding bicycle is a must, since commuter trains are often not bicycle-friendly.
@KeVIn-pm7pu
@KeVIn-pm7pu Год назад
Thats one solution but personally i dont like them. Rather i rent a Bike at my Stop or i get a bicycle there in Advance and use it at my stop
@AlRoderick
@AlRoderick Год назад
Yes, but they talked about alternatives to that in the video, using two different bicycles. Use your own bike on the home end and use a bike share on the far end. Or if you have some kind of secure parking for overnight you can have a second bicycle that just lives at the far end of your commute, but that seems less efficient than just using a bike share if it's available. It's a workable model because it's far more likely for bike share to exist at the work end of the trip than at the home end.
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 Год назад
@@AlRoderickThere's a lot of concerns about bike sharing due to potential for theft and the fact you have to manually readjust the bike to fit your body size. I still say a folding bike is the best answer, since with a folding bike you don't (mostly) have to deal with finding a parking spot for the bike and and it can be carried on board commuter trains/subways easily.
@anddickson
@anddickson Год назад
I love your channel, and I while I agree most of the points you raise I think sometimes there’s far too much emphasis on bike infrastructure than others such as subway, buses etc I live Amsterdam, I have two bikes and car but most of my daily commute is a combination of walking (mostly walking), bus, ferry, tram and occasionally train. I think a good public is the one that offers choice and variety of transport options not just bikes. Heck it shouldn’t be acceptable to have to bike 10 min the closest metro station or wait 30 to an hour for a bus as illustrated your video.
@Moicke_
@Moicke_ Год назад
I’d love to see a video on Vancouver’s waterfront and how it came to become devoid of shops and destinations. Beaches close at like sunset and the waterfront is empty at like 10pm. It feels to me like it’s a wasted opportunity, but I’d love to see how one could make a waterfront great!
@MAASamador
@MAASamador Год назад
I would be interested to see these same graphs where you take into consideration the elevation gain rather than a flat radius for determining potential bike users.
@jackmerrill8424
@jackmerrill8424 Год назад
Bike infrastructure is also wildly cheap compared to every other kind of transportation infrastructure
@KSPRAYDAD
@KSPRAYDAD Год назад
The problem I have with biking in Ottawa is the rampant bike theft...I'll never bike for anything but pleasure as I refuse to leave my bike outside a store or destination for ANY amount of time.
@MaxwellWilliams42
@MaxwellWilliams42 Год назад
5:25 nice, I love to see bikes in the wheelchair area of a train car. Very cool. Biking urbanism in general is great for able-bodied folks and reducing car traffic, but as a wheelchair user it's very excluding compared to trains & buses. Handcycles are pretty much for recreation only, since they are painfully slow (a third to a half the speed at best) and require leaving your wheelchair behind.
@OhTheUrbanity
@OhTheUrbanity Год назад
Are you suggesting we should avoid that area even on a relatively empty train car with no wheelchair users needing to use it?
@MaxwellWilliams42
@MaxwellWilliams42 Год назад
@@OhTheUrbanityYes, and I'm surprised you don't see the issue with what you're doing. I'm suggesting that the regular usage of the handicap reserved space by able bodied folks will lead to a situation where wheelchair users don't take transit, so transit doesn't accommodate disabilities, so wheelchair users don't take transit... You see where I'm going with this? You're unwittingly making the same argument that many NIMBY's make that it's pointless to build bicycle infrastructure & transit because nobody will use it because it doesn't exist because nobody will use it, where circular logic prevents a situation from ever improving. It's not just about who is on the train right now -- it's about who might get on the train. You've now created a situation where if a person in a powered wheelchair gets on the train, you're delaying everybody while they get to the one place in the train they can safely exist.
@kb_100
@kb_100 Год назад
​@@MaxwellWilliams42 I don't think the problem is as bad as that. There are priority seats on buses and trains for the elderly or pregnant people. If none of them are around I will sit in them. But as soon as an elderly person shows up I stand and offer them my seat instantly. Why can't the wheelchair area on a train be used similarly?
@MaxwellWilliams42
@MaxwellWilliams42 Год назад
@@kb_100 my experience taking buses & metros suggests that people who actually stand up and get out of the way for elderly folks / disabled folks are the exception. And on a crowded enough bus, nobody wants to give up their spot. But at least people *can* stand and move to make room. Bikes, however, cannot stand or get out of the way. And when a train car/bus is sufficiently crowded, moving a bike out of the way is another unnecessary barrier to disability access that becomes a serious safety issue. People took decades to learn (and, IMO, are still learning -- especially delivery drivers) that taking a handicapped parking spot is unacceptable. So why treat transit any differently?
@Randomgen77
@Randomgen77 Год назад
⁠​⁠@@MaxwellWilliams42you’re pinning a lot of worst-case scenario thinking on 1) a shot of an empty car where the bikes could be easily moved for a disabled person and 2) assumed irresponsibility on the part of Oh The Urbanity folks and other cyclists, that they wouldn’t move their bikes. I’ll match your anecdote with mine: on the transit I ride, people reliably clear out of the priority seating for the elderly and wheelchairs. Occasionally, someone is absorbed in their headphones and needs to be tapped on the shoulder, but then they move. Also, direct comparison to handicap parking is a bit of a stretch. In one case, you have a two-ton, locked machine where the owner is out of sight. In the bike transit case, the owner is in sight and earshot, and the load is light enough that the owner, a transit employee, or any bystander could make the necessary shift on short notice.
@jsrodman
@jsrodman Год назад
It's interesting how in san francisco, the idea of not being able to take my bicycle on the bart always seemed so incredibly broken. Most jobs are not in walking distance from the stations. I ended up just avoiding the train and taking my bike on busses instead. However, in the netherlands bike support is so good that bringing your bicycle on the train just feels irrelevant. If you're going to a job in the same city, there's almost certainly a metro stop in walking distance while if you're going to a distant city or smaller city without a metro, there's a cheap bine rental immediately inside the train station usable on the same transit card. Also with bike share numbers like in the NL, you simply couldn't support that many bikes on trains. So the optimal solutions seem to shift as you build different types of infrastructure.
@zaranski1889
@zaranski1889 Год назад
Nah. I can't exercise as a cyclist inside of train
@gj1234567899999
@gj1234567899999 Год назад
Nobody in the US will consider public transport unless they get crime under control. Getting slapped around and spat on by a drug addict on a subway just doesn’t happen in Japan or Europe. But that and worse happen in the US. San Fran has seen public transport plunge by 3/4 in the past 3 years. Most of it is safety concern. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ATz0qzP1mK4.html
@hanstun1
@hanstun1 Год назад
Lets not forget that cycling infrastructure is the only transport option that has a positive return on investment. The ROI for cycling infrastructure is between 5 and 8 times, this is huge. For every km you cycle instead of drive you save about 2 bucks with almost all of that going to healthcare gains.
@Zalis116
@Zalis116 Год назад
Except that if you're in the US, medical costs from almost any cycling accident (from being hit by a car or otherwise) instantly wipes out all that savings. I can't afford that risk, so I'll keep driving a car, even though my current worksite is less than 15 minutes away by bike.
@boosterh1113
@boosterh1113 Год назад
That is fair, but the flip side of that is that bicycling is also the most exclusionary form of transit. Cycling is great exercise, but only if you are a fundamentally healthy working age adult. If you have a disability (even a temporary one, like a broken leg), or are elderly, or you have multiple small children to care for, you can be locked out of it, in a way that you aren't for public transit, and are much less likely to for cars. Therefor, you have to be careful when building spaces that rely on bikes (as opposed to having cycling as an option), because there is a large fraction of the populace who simply cannot use them.
@marctreal
@marctreal Год назад
@@boosterh1113 That has the caveat that cars are also exclusionary, yet so much is built around it exclusively. Bike infra is also not as exclusionary as you think, since mobility scooters, escooters, etc can use them just fine
@hanstun1
@hanstun1 Год назад
@@Zalis116 No one is talking about your personal finances.
@hanstun1
@hanstun1 Год назад
@@boosterh1113 Same can be applied to roads for cars. Not everyone can drive a car so we must be careful "because there is a large fraction of the populace who simply cannot use them."
@atn_holdings
@atn_holdings Год назад
the other factor being that bike infrastructure is *very* cheap
@boosterh1113
@boosterh1113 Год назад
Eh, in new builds, sure, but in any sort of existing community, the space for a connected network of bike lanes and paths has to be bought/reallocated from other uses. Trains are relatively compact relative to the volume of people they serve, and buses can use existing car infrastructure without meaningfully reducing its capacity, but every metre of bike path comes at the cost someone else losing that space, beyond the price of the asphalt itself.
@atn_holdings
@atn_holdings Год назад
@@boosterh1113 yeah as I was saying: cheap
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Год назад
I'm sorry, but even in the places with great bike infrastructure only a tiny percentage of transit riders are bike users. This is just the empirical truth. Biking is by definition a nice concern. Sure, it can boost transit ridership by marginal amounts. It has it's own nice in neighborhood mobility. But the bike advocates need to understand that bicycle infrastructure cannot reign supreme over the concerns of transit. It's still an activity that will only be ever entertained by a minority of non-car commuters. I understand that Not Just Bikes made a real splash with his bike oriented content. But that does not mean that transit needs to equal bikes, or needs to take a backseat to bikes. In that sense bicycles are a distraction from the main concern for the vast majority of the population.
@lws7394
@lws7394 Год назад
few people use the bike to go to transit stations because in N.America most commute stations are 'Park+Ride' placed outside the suburb, reachable by car, rather than by bike !! It is not safe to use a bike to a station. This happens everywhere in US and Canada. And also with the new REM in Montreal . It is placed in between a 8-10 lane highway and walking/biking you need to cross a car dependent stripmall hellscape. (unbelievable, we talk about a metro system !) ! In the Netherlands 40% of train travellers come by bike to the railway station. Therefore major rail stations have 1000s of bike park spaces (covered and some underground). Even small, rural towns will have several hundred bike parks spots. 2/3 of Dutch live within 5km of a train station. And they are available with good bike paths. . Ofcourse in rural areas a higher % will come by transit or chauffeured by car ('relatives;'). But one can come by bike to the station in 15-20 min. (comparable with a bus..) ! I live in a city 3km from the main station. Although I have a bus and a commute station nearby, yest I often choose the bike, because it leaves me independent from transit on my return journey ! (and it saves some money too..) In Dutch cities (with anything transit) you won't find many (free) parking spots. The cost that a city saves with good bike and transit routes, is that the most valuable plots around the stations can be used for tax generation housing, offices or retail, instead of unproductive parking fields. Go Transit is the biggest parking provider in Ontario with 77k idle parking spots ! Mostly free and some even in expensive parking garages. They yield almost nothing. In Berlin the (alternative) value that can be generated by an average parking spot is €5000 per year. This will be similar for Toronto, I reckon. Apply that to Toronto it means that those Go Transit Parking spots represent a 77 000 x $5000 = $385 million per year ! If they could be used for revenue/tax generating functions. And I am not even talking about the massive costs that need to be made to make those spots accesible by road (extra car lanes, more complicate highway junctions ..etc).
@stephensmith1509
@stephensmith1509 Год назад
Everyone else on the internet is going for outrage and Oh the Urbanity is just like "what if we offered a concise, clear, explanation of a good idea and backed it up with a bunch of research? With a little dry wit as a treat?" Love you guys.
@barryrobbins7694
@barryrobbins7694 Год назад
Yes, people are just trying to get to a destination. The more options or combination of options the better. We know which forms are the most sustainable and affordable. There are many factors that determine which one(s) we use. 1. Walk = short distance 2. Bicycle = moderate/longer distance 3. Buss/Tram/Subway = longer distance 4. High Speed Train = up to 600mls (1000km) 5. Airplane = over 600mls (1000km) (consider a train) 6. Car = only when needed and preferably electric (consider renting) Boats/ferries may also be an option (or necessary)
@neckenwiler
@neckenwiler Год назад
Completely agree. This is my favorite urbanist channel, by a good measure. (CityNerd is also good, but a bit more wonky, which is less my style.)
@MarioFanGamer659
@MarioFanGamer659 Год назад
@@barryrobbins7694 Though since 3h is the generally estimated threashhold to take HSR, 1000km is quite far and it's much more typical to have a max threashhold of 500 to 800 km (depending on the existing services and infrastructure). That being said, sleeping trains can fill in the nieche of longer routes (especially of more conventional rail).
@barryrobbins7694
@barryrobbins7694 Год назад
@@MarioFanGamer659 Yes, it is a matter of individual time sensitivity. A lot of different factors are involved. I would encourage the very upper limit.
@j.s.7335
@j.s.7335 Год назад
@@barryrobbins7694 Train is more environmental than car, but I would say consider a car instead of a plane if multiple people are traveling, for environmental and cost reasons.
@gamarad
@gamarad Год назад
You need about 4 times as much road space for cars to drive to a station and about 10 times as much parking compared to bikes which goes to show why bikes- and-trains urbanism scales better than cars-and-trains urbanism.
@jasonriddell
@jasonriddell Год назад
will SAY car style park and ride is ONLY good out at the END of line station to "capture" the NON local commuters in the country / next town over ETC any "urban area" should NOT be park and ride focused
@alex2143
@alex2143 Год назад
If you use efficient ways of parking bikes (double stacked bike parking), I'm willing to bet that you can fit way more than 10x as many bikes in the same areas as cars. Especially if you use a parking garage with multiple levels, which coincidentally can be built a lot cheaper since it only has to hold the weight of bikes and not cars.
@allanjmcpherson
@allanjmcpherson Год назад
Not to mention the fact that you can't take your car on transit. So you only get the range extension from cars on one end, whereas bikes can give you range extension on both ends.
@mindstalk
@mindstalk Год назад
@@alex2143 True. Bike parking varies. Cambridge and Somerville MA had bike racks they would put in some curbside car parking spaces in the summer. Cambridge figured 14 bikes could be parked in one, though they end up being very cosy bikes and conflicting if they have baskets. 7 bikes would be pretty easy -- 7 things to chain a bike to, maybe a couple more to the outer frame. OTOH secure bike cages take more space; I don't know how much, though I would guess still at least 4 bikes per parking space.
@alex2143
@alex2143 Год назад
@@allanjmcpherson definitely. Also, it's pretty easy to create a bike share or bike rental program so you have access to bikes at every station. Try doing that for cars. Sounds cost effective to have a train station with several thousand cars just waiting for a train commuter to hop in. That's even before taking into account that a lot of people can't drive.
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Год назад
Even Pyongyang has bike infrastructure to complement the Pyongyang Metro, trolleybuses, and trams. Bikes were banned in Pyongyang for decades until the ban was lifted in 1992. In 2017, a bike share program was introduced called Ryomyong/려명 or Dawn. The system is overseen by the Pyongyang Bicycle Rental Office, with bicycles manufactured domestically by a DPRK/Chinese joint venture, Phyongjin Bicycle Cooperative Company, located in Sosong district. Reservations may be made for 50 won per minute with a stored-value card at one of five locations on Kwangbok Street in the city's scenic Mangyongdae district. If a city like Pyongyang can have a bikeshare program, a trolleybus system with over 35 miles in length, a tram system with 33 miles in length, AND two subway lines, then other cities have zero excuses not to take these steps for the greater good.
@steemlenn8797
@steemlenn8797 Год назад
BUT THAT IS COMMUNISM!!!!!! 👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿 Sometimes I think if the car had been invented by a communist, the USA would have the best public transport system in the world.
@adorabell4253
@adorabell4253 Год назад
I did not expect to see you here.
@steemlenn8797
@steemlenn8797 Год назад
@@adorabell4253 The Great Leader is everywhere, especially in our hearts!
@user-gu9yq5sj7c
@user-gu9yq5sj7c Год назад
@@steemlenn8797 Watch Yeonmi Park. Many people live in terrible conditions in NK. Why do you watch Oh the Urbanity complaining about the government if you're ok with bad government in NK?
@DevanK-rg3td
@DevanK-rg3td 8 месяцев назад
Fact check: True!
@beepbot
@beepbot Год назад
good job for putting captions, it is crazy that some channels with millions of subscribers don't have captions.
@nuntius1
@nuntius1 Год назад
It makes the video understandable by most ppl on the planet hence more people will watch it, so it's a win-win for everyone even small channels.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 11 месяцев назад
Hear hear! (I guess that’s kind of ironic to say, actually)
@davethibault6734
@davethibault6734 Год назад
I had considered taking my bike onto the REM. But the problem is that Bonaventure, the only current station on the Island of Montreal is only accessible through Place Bonaventure, and there's a big "No bikes" sign right at the entrance to the complex. The website suggested parking your bike outside on one of two bike racks. But this is the middle of downtown. I would NOT be ok leaving my bike there.
@m.e.3862
@m.e.3862 Год назад
I saw a couple of guys coming into Montreal with bikes getting off the REM in central station. I didn't see where they exited tho.
@QemeH
@QemeH Год назад
I'm not a canadian, but does this help? rem.info/sites/default/files/Stations_du_reseau/Gare_Centrale/Gare_Centrale-Cartes_acces/EN/Fiche_Carte_Gare_Centrale_WEB_EN.pdf
@alexseguin5245
@alexseguin5245 Год назад
In Québec, you can always bend the rules as long as you say "J'ai l'doua" while doing it. Pretty sure you can enter by the entrance on De la Gauchetière street.
@noseboop4354
@noseboop4354 Год назад
Get a foldable bike that you can carry like luggage.
@enjoyslearningandtravel7957
Maybe you could lobby for a lockable inside bike storage
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican Год назад
Encouraging more people to cycle on top of riding transit is the way to go! By prioritizing bicycles, transit, and pedestrian infrastructure, cities can create more livable and vibrant communities! Investing in bike infrastructure further promotes sustainability by reducing carbon emissions with one less car on the road and not to mention improve your health! It further promotes more pedestrian-friendly infrastructure as well. On top of the convenience of bikes that you mentioned, investing in bikes also makes sense for the littler streets where running a bus or train doesn't make sense. The more options there are, the better! One should be able to take a bike from their home and park it at the station with ease to take the train the rest of the way whether it's for work, errands, or an event. When it comes to bike sharing, NYC has the Citi Bike bikeshare system to promote bike infrastructure, and it's not just in NYC but across the Hudson River in Hoboken and Jersey City as well, thus expanding the reach of the program and providing an alternative for more people. Even Suffolk County on Long Island has a bikeshare program! Suffolk County is still very much suburbia, but it's a step in the right direction nonetheless.
@DuncanAdkins
@DuncanAdkins Год назад
A great thing that cities with bike share systems, like Bixi, can do is to integrate the bikeshare fares with the transit fare system - for example, in Philadelphia the IndeGo system has really good coverage and exists at basically every major SEPTA station, but it isn't included in the system at all. It would be amazing if it was included in the day passes that are offered on SEPTA, but instead it's $15 a day, or $20 for a monthly pass!
@AMPProf
@AMPProf Год назад
I'd rather Have a low jack sevice.. But I love my bike soo you know
@jasonriddell
@jasonriddell Год назад
I think a "one card" system for ALL mobility solutions would be great it be Metro OR a bike share
@alankingchiu
@alankingchiu Год назад
Good point! Should be able to tap the transit card to unlock a bike. But bike sharing docks are often full at destinations, and empty at starting locations.
@Ubeogesh
@Ubeogesh Год назад
In Warsaw first 20 minutes of bike sharing is free. And up to 1 hour from there it costs 1zł which is about 1/4 usd.
@GreySlick
@GreySlick Год назад
In Montréal, if you link your Opus card to your Bixi account, then you can use an electronic bus ticket to unlock a Bixi for a ride. Also, I am pretty sure that when buying the yearly Bixi membership at the start of the season, that I've seen discounts for having train or bus/metro passes.
@zartex6458
@zartex6458 Год назад
I believe that e-scooters are great (despite how much they get demonized). They are just as fast as cycling yet u don’t have to do anything manual with them due to the motors, and because of msot being easily foldable, they can be accomodated on a lot of transit modes. They offer great last mile transit and are pretty great tools for urbanism imo
@MrPatpaty
@MrPatpaty Год назад
I feel like some of the multipliers say less about the efficiency of biking and more about the failed land use around stations. Regardless, we need more bikes+transit. Great video!
@simonkemfors
@simonkemfors Год назад
Isn't that only if you do transit oriented development in the Canadian way of condo towers around the stations surrounded by normal North American suburbia though? If the city was planned for bike+transit, and the higher density development (maybe not condo towers, but at least "medium" or "upper medium" density) extended as far as it was practical to bike, there would be significantly more people living the "practical to bike" area than the "practical to walk" area, just because of how much larger it is
@boosterh1113
@boosterh1113 Год назад
Not really. Shoebox apartments are not appropriate for everyone, and if every family with 2+ children or self employed worker who needs a workshop in their home is forced into using cars because there is little to no low-medium density housing within reach of transit station, then you are back to a having a large (and generally well off) segment of the population being car dependant, and demanding that politicians and business owners make the services they need car-accessible. If transit-centric urbanism is going to succeed it needs to be able to accommodate those people. Second, remember, every starting point is also a destination. That shopping centre near Panama Station in the video is probably a significant pull factor for a number of people who travel to Panama Station. Get rid of it, and you may well have less usage of the station (and definitely less balanced usage of the station).
@MrPatpaty
@MrPatpaty Год назад
@@simonkemfors agreed, but I’m our current cities, high density on top of the station and tapering off density to the edge of the zone would give the best mix of density without overhauling all neighbourhoods. Maybe within a few decades we can get more infill!
@MrPatpaty
@MrPatpaty Год назад
@@boosterh1113 IMO we must build diverse housing types. 3 bed condos and townhomes for families, small bachelor units for starting properties, and of course mixing in significant commercial vendors. That way you house more ppl without losing the draw factor.
@chefnyc
@chefnyc Год назад
Actually if land use wasn’t messed the multiplier would be 11.11 if we use the 750m/2.5km radius as the walkable/bikable ratio from the video
@skitlus335
@skitlus335 Год назад
Bikes take me so many places that public transport just couldn't reasonably do without a lot of transfers because the direct route would never make sense.
@convextlc9767
@convextlc9767 Год назад
Such a great little vid showing how biking and transit go hand in hand. If we can get cities to do this it would be great to help densify and create more homes near these areas for people to live, and businesses to start and thrive as well. I wish cities would start making true attempts to do just that such as in my hell home of Ottawa 😭
@jacqueswang3722
@jacqueswang3722 Год назад
Ottawa is where dreams go to die
@jonatanwestholm
@jonatanwestholm Год назад
If you're European, welcome to another episode of "you've been doing this thing your whole life, and apparently it has a name"
@AnotherDuck
@AnotherDuck Год назад
Well, here in Stockholm, we don't have that great integration between bikes and other transport (although with intercity rail it's different). But I think that's largely due to how the bus network covers pretty much the entire city, which means you can always take the bus if the metro isn't enough, so you don't really need bikes as much. On the other hand, the city isn't that large (counting the city of Stockholm, rather than the county), so if you want to use a bike, you can most of the time head directly to your destination, which increases the acceptable range by quite a lot since there are no transfers.
@PeterSdrolias
@PeterSdrolias Год назад
What to do with my bike at the train station would be a serious issue for me. Too expensive to leave there all day. Secure bike parking is the key, but for this to happen there needs to be a high demand.
@tomreingold4024
@tomreingold4024 Год назад
In NYC, the most popular reason people commute by bike is that travel time is extremely predictable. Weather and traffic barely affect travel time.
@dwc1964
@dwc1964 Год назад
One of the numerous things I love about the new BART cars vs the old (mid-20th century!) ones is, they've got dedicated space for bicycles in every car. I don't use 'em myself, I'm just glad they're there for those who do, so we can be out of each other's way.
@PokerStaples
@PokerStaples Год назад
You both never miss. Good vid :)
@guzferreira
@guzferreira Год назад
Love the drone footage
@OhTheUrbanity
@OhTheUrbanity Год назад
Thank you!
@ishathakor
@ishathakor Год назад
also doing little trips like to the cornerstore or to the coffee shop etc on a bike is more convenient and quicker than doing the same trips on foot (when there is proper bike infrastructure in place). like there's a cornerstore about an 8 minute walk from my house and i don't really want to spend that much time walking on some days (hotter days) but if i had a bike and assurance that i wouldn't be hit by a car that would be like a 2 minute bike ride
@52_Pickup
@52_Pickup Год назад
This is yet another video where I am strongly urging a Minneapolis-St Paul visit and/or video. A lot of these shots around Montreal just remind me uncannily of our own bike infrastructure in Minnesota, and there's so many different ways we utilize bike infrastructure in conjunction with bus and rail transit. Every vehicle is equipped with bike racks and storage, from the Light Rail to the BRT and local buses. Pretty much every rapid transit station has bike storage of some kind, with an emphasis of using bikes as a suburban and urban last mile transportation option in particular. Bike infrastructure and public transit are not mutually exclusive, they are mutually beneficial to building safer and better cities that don't rely on cars. Yet another excellent video and great tackling of this argument!
@firiel2366
@firiel2366 Год назад
As an inhabitant of almost-Twin Cities (Stillwater, MN) I second this! I'm just beginning to explore my state from a transit-bike-pedestrian point of view, and I'd love more new urbanist perspectives!
@Kirbychu1
@Kirbychu1 Год назад
7:50 That sign just makes me sad. It has the unfortunate implication that these guys don't even see people that live in apartments as real members of the community.
@Deepz0ne01
@Deepz0ne01 Год назад
Some people just dont like the look of giant steel and glass blocks (8:03) .
@tehsiewdai
@tehsiewdai Год назад
fantastic video, as always! 🔥
@BenvanBroekhuijsen
@BenvanBroekhuijsen Год назад
In the Netherlands the trainstations usually have a lot of bike parking spots, the bigger ones even guarded ones. A lot of people have two bikes, one to commute from home to the station, and one from the station to destination. Often you can have a year pass for storing your bike in a safe guarded place, and it is a much better solution than everyone taking a bike in the train.
@carolineorton3469
@carolineorton3469 Год назад
I live in Greenfield Park (part of Longueuil on the other side of the Rem to Brossard) and the bike infrastructure here is terrible sadly, but I still bike to the Rem daily now and will until the snow flies. I just wish Longueuil would put in a few bike routes to the Rem from my neighbourhood!
@kb_100
@kb_100 Год назад
I don't understand how RTL hasn't set up multiple feeder bus routes to the REM yet. Also if you're willing to use studded tires and install pogies on your handlebars. Winter cycling is very doable except for during heavy snowstorms. I tried it last year and it wasn't so bad.
@m.e.3862
@m.e.3862 Год назад
Because rtl sucks. Their idea of frequency is once an hour on weekends.😛
@brn12113
@brn12113 Год назад
A small nuance to those suburban bike lanes with the grass divider: they don't interfere with established snow removal methods on the main road, and can be cheaply plowed themselves with the usual sidewalk plow.
@cellavb447
@cellavb447 Год назад
Hey! That's my local REM station! I'm actually leading a citizen-petition right now to increase the local bus frequencies which run circuits through the surrounding neighbourhood and connect to the REM
@federicomarintuc
@federicomarintuc Год назад
I live a little more than a mile away from my shop. I have a direct bus route with a headway of 4-5 minutes on business hours. It's still faster to do it by bike, not to mention cheaper and healthier, even without bike lanes. If you build a comprehensive infrastructure and good public transport, bikes are the fastest way to move around 9 out of 10 times, and the tenth time you use transit instead of owning a car
@reneolthof6811
@reneolthof6811 Год назад
Your basic message is the core idea of Dutch mobility. Transit without bikes is almost as useless as cars without parking possibilities. That’s why almost everywhere in The Netherlands parking facilities for cars near transit stations are reduced or even eliminated in favour of bikes and the like. There simply is no space for parking big number of cars.
@Lily-ni5po
@Lily-ni5po Год назад
I am one of those people that cannot bike because of a handicap. My brain doesn't perceive whether I am balanced or not, so I cannot do anything that requires me to stay upright and balance myself on things like bikes or roller blades. I still want more bike infrastructures. It doesn't help me reach any subway stations, but it reduces the number of cars on the road which allows even non bikers like me to walk safely where we need to go. Plus, less cars mean empty roads and faster buses.
@dudestir127
@dudestir127 Год назад
I wondered something with "catchment area" for a transit station. Is there any data to show if the radius is actually larger or smaller based on what's in the area? I know I'm definitely more willing to walk or bike longer to a transit stop through a nice Main Street than I would be across a freeway or stroad. But that's just my feelings, I wonder if there's any actual data.
@travisfinucane
@travisfinucane Год назад
1:12 Does that station reach graphic also include destinations' distances from the station? Or does "number of people" refer to housing only? Also, I know suburban commuter rail gets a lot of hate, but lots of people drive their bike or e-scooter to park-n-ride lots, put their scooter on the train, then scoot to their destination.
@brianjonker510
@brianjonker510 Год назад
What is the practicality of Amtrac allowing passengers to bring bikes on the Acela Express?
@scpatl4now
@scpatl4now Год назад
Atlanta is getting better about bike lanes. They are installing them on two main roads through Midtown (Juniper and Piedmont). The problem here is that you have lots of short segments with little through connectivity. Hopefully that will come with time.
@edwardmiessner6502
@edwardmiessner6502 Год назад
Brossard and other Montreal suburbs are showing us how to build bike infrastructure on a stroad... just make the stroad into a road at least on one side and there'll be room enough for a bicycle path on one side.
@jacktattersall9457
@jacktattersall9457 Год назад
Only issue for the Metra example, is they barely run any service on many lines with clunky, ugly train cars.
@alankingchiu
@alankingchiu Год назад
Montreal is becoming a good urbanism city, while my city of Toronto is lagging behind.
@nukeout
@nukeout Год назад
Transit 🤝 Bicycles + great video 📸 subscribed!
@Pscribbled
@Pscribbled Год назад
When I lived in metro montreal with a metro station 1 block away from me on the blue line, I had no need for a bike. I could go anywhere I wanted to on the metro in metro montreal faster and more conveniently than on a bike
@jlpack62
@jlpack62 Год назад
I am truly all-in on bikes, but the jury is still out for me regarding e-scooters. My experience is that most of them are used for joy-riding and entertainment purposes. When I see a single rider using them, then I am presuming that they are for the "last mile", but I more often see them being ridden in packs of people for entertainment, and those riders are usually disrespectful to cyclists and walkers. The riders I see often run red lights without even looking. Also, I am not convinced that the infrastructure for them has been well considered. They are clearly too fast for sidewalks (which I often see them on), too fast for bike lanes, which often makes sharing them with cyclists messy, but too slow for car lanes in general.
@FriendlyFireYT
@FriendlyFireYT Год назад
E-scooters and other PEVs are rapidly growing for personal transport, and represent a huge improvement over traditional bikes. They can be much smaller (solving issues like fitting onto transit), they can help you go farther, haul more cargo, and they help people tolerate hills and hot weather much better. They clearly fit on bike infrastructure and "bike lanes", which really should just be the infrastructure for moderate-speed personal vehicles. Some super-scooters will be ridden at 30mph+ and belong on the road like a motorcycle, but that's a small percent of an already niche group. It's pretty fair to set a speed limit for "bike" lanes, and frankly for sidewalks too. That's how you can differentiate if a mobility scooter should be on a sidewalk or bikelane, if a scooter should be in the bike lane or street, etc. You're not the only "traditional" cyclist who has a knee-jerk reaction against PEVs, but the benefits are huge and there's really not much adaption required to incorporate them. Don't resist change just for the sake of it. PEVs can enable way more people to live car free.
@patriot9487
@patriot9487 Год назад
I only ever ride e-scooters while drunk, so I bet that's why.
@noseboop4354
@noseboop4354 Год назад
There is currently a 3 year project in Quebec allowing the use of e-scooters and unicycles on both bike paths and roads (as long as the road has a speed limit of 70 km/h or less). They are forbidden on sidewalks. The rider must be 14 or over, and must wear a helmet. Also they aren't allowed to go faster than 25 km/h.
@nacoran
@nacoran Год назад
I wonder if you could work out a way to have buses pick up public ebikes to keep them distributed throughout the city... (either the ebike could self-attach or the bus could have a grabber, kind of like a garbage truck does with garbage cans, or just having people use them as a drop off.) I know it would take a while to get the technology down, but there actually could be a virtue to the bus carrying a couple extra bikes. Imagine you take the bus somewhere, and as you are getting off you see some lights by the door showing you that the bus has a bike (maybe 1-4) available, so you swipe your card and it unlocks one of the bikes. By having the bus carry around some spare bikes you would be able to have bikes available at more remote stops.
@bengt_axle
@bengt_axle Год назад
I can tell right now that covered and indoor bike parking will be a huge success. Bixi could be in South Shore urban neighbourhoods near public mailboxes, apartments, condos and schools, or at park entrances where there is space. I can even see a system where you have a guaranteed docking space reserved because the bike is encoded to dock at a given number of stations. For example, a given number of bikes are available in the condos along the water's edge in Ile des soeurs, but only these bikes (identified by electronic bike number) will lock in these docks at the Ile des soeurs REM station. It could cut travel time by not having to wait for the bus, and could probably operate 8 months of the year, right now, with our mild winters. So the point is, you need both bike and public transport infrastructure, because time savings is a huge factor in convenience. If you have people drive to the REM station, you have just created more congestion.
@kylerwk
@kylerwk Год назад
Bikes also turbo charge car sharing. I often take Bixi’s to pick up slightly distant communauto from the next neighbourhood over, and I don’t have to pick up my own bike at the end of the day.
@geoff5623
@geoff5623 Год назад
I've done the same in Vancouver, since Evos are strangely unavailable in my neighbourhood half the time I'm looking for one. 5 minutes walking and 5 minutes on a Mobi instead of a 15 to 20 minute walk to the closest Evo. Or when I've wanted a particular car from Modo, I have a lot more options available within a reasonable biking distance.
@electricerger
@electricerger Год назад
Did you guys get to meet Reece and Jason when they came to see the REM?
@m.e.3862
@m.e.3862 Год назад
I used to bike to Panama station all the time when I used the 45. My advice is to get a used bare bones bike. I had a old beat up bike that worked well enough to get me to and from the station and didn’t care if it got stolen or not. Leave the nice bike at home.
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